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rabbits Posted - 09 Dec 2011 : 06:34:26
That should make sure we don't get locked in the middle of a discussion?

I don't care if I don't get a single reply in this thread, but something Albert posted in the Swan thread cannot go unanswered because it is typical of the ALP voter - come out blazing, all guns firing from the hip using outdated figures, half truths and misinformation.....

Here's where we left off :
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quote:
Originally posted by rabbits
Never mind Albie, Bundy - it's a pick-and-chooseathon with him....for example, the cost of Nauru - it was around $165m a year, give or take

Gillard's solution? Or should i say 'non-solution'....she doesn't have any ideas yet, does she? They don't even process them anymore - off the boats and straight into houses ( when we have AUSTRALIAN'S who can't get a home to live in ) - they're coming too fast...

$750m a year.

Close, Albie...


http://www.oxfam.org.au/resources/filestore/originals/OAus-PriceTooHighAsylumSeekers-0807.pdf

See I can post links too.
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Let's go through this, shall we.

Firstly - Oxfam? really?

Secondly - it's dated 2007. Really? THAT'S what you want to use in argument?......ok.......

From Albert's link.....

One part : "In the six years since the Tampa crisis in August 2001, Australian taxpayers have spent more than $1
billion to process less than 1,700 asylum seekers in offshore locations"

So, that equates to about $165m a year. I seem to recall someone else quoting what it was costing under Howard...oh yeah...me!
And 1700 over 6 years? barely a trickle....

It gets better ( thank you SO much for this, Albert!! Seriously, you're doing the work for me...)

"Offshore processing in Nauru, Manus Island and Christmas Island has amounted to at least $1 billion since 2001. By comparison, the latest estimates from DIAC suggest that to process 1,700
asylum seekers for 90 days each at Villawood detention centre in Sydney would have cost around $35 million Ė around 3.5 per cent of the cost of processing them offshore."

I'm assuming that you have used this to illustrate that Villawood was only going to cost us $35m a year and we should have done that instead of spending $165m offshore?
That was PRE-ALP estimates though, wasn't it?
In 2007.
Under Howard's control.
Before Rudd canned the whole thing?

Now, for something a bit newer - like maybe 6 months old - a bit more relevant, don't you think?? Something that illustrates perfectly the ALP's handling of the situation and MY money:

( Let's keep in mind Howards 1700 applications over 6 years and Albie's figure of what should have been $35m to do it here, ok...)

"ASRC says last year Australia received 8,250 asylum claims via air and sea arrivals"

In ONE year!!!!!!!

Now :

"ASRC says budget papers reveal the cost of Australia's immigration detention system will hit $800 million in 2011-12. "

In ONE year!!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-05-18/understanding-the-asylum-seeker-debate/2718820

Yep - good argument, Albert. Thanks for the data to compare and show what a ****ing **** job these clowns are doing with everything they touch.

Like I said, I don't care if this thread goes nowhere, but that just couldn't be left to lay as it was....




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Trev Posted - 07 Nov 2019 : 16:41:33
Getting this Government into action is like extracting teeth, first the Child Abuse Royal Commission, now getting farmers help, they are so slow to respond it is not funny

With all the academics saying that a recession is not far off, so what do this mob do - nothing. They are a bunch of 'deniers'


"nothing to see here, move along" is the chant of this Government
Trickyonne Posted - 07 Nov 2019 : 14:21:38
quote:
Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

If I had a drought effective farm there's no way I would be selling it.
It's almost like a licence to print money.




sorry LG gotta stop using my phone to post

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/scott-morrison-details-dollar1b-drought-package/ar-AAJXXny

good news, and yes the driest state on the driest continent saving the nation
Legendary Gerry Posted - 07 Nov 2019 : 11:43:10
If I had a drought effective farm there's no way I would be selling it.
It's almost like a licence to print money.
Trickyonne Posted - 07 Nov 2019 : 10:52:18
quote:
Originally posted by CP

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-06/exit-packages-for-farmers-drought/11673408

What happens to the land if a farmer takes the exit package, but no one else wants to take on the land?



i know cashed up farms in my area are buying drought effective farms as fast as they can
Legendary Gerry Posted - 07 Nov 2019 : 10:23:21
quote:
Originally posted by CP

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-06/exit-packages-for-farmers-drought/11673408

What happens to the land if a farmer takes the exit package, but no one else wants to take on the land?



The article basically says that neighbours, or anyone for that matter, can buy them. Whether there is a time limit on that it doesn't say.
CP Posted - 07 Nov 2019 : 09:59:34
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-06/exit-packages-for-farmers-drought/11673408

What happens to the land if a farmer takes the exit package, but no one else wants to take on the land?
Trickyonne Posted - 24 Sep 2019 : 09:44:34
quote:
Originally posted by Trev

Point taken, then why not spend the $150m fixing up the recycling issues here in Aus and create a **** load more jobs.

We really are the Martians, **** this planet with our pollution then go looking for another planet to **** over



true trev

Another one bites the dust
https://www.9news.com.au/national/kayla-murnain-resigns-as-nsw-labor-general-secretary-politics-news/ef7d81f4-6c17-4e55-b51e-29281ca9c75a
Trev Posted - 24 Sep 2019 : 08:29:49
Point taken, then why not spend the $150m fixing up the recycling issues here in Aus and create a **** load more jobs.

We really are the Martians, **** this planet with our pollution then go looking for another planet to **** over
Trickyonne Posted - 24 Sep 2019 : 07:27:30
quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

quote:
Originally posted by Trev

What a laugh, SCOMO and Trump holding each others willies waving them at the world. What a joke.

$150,000,000 to NASA, what about drought ridden farmers. This Gvmt is a joke



Sorry, I think you should have a re-think.

As I understand it, the money does not go to NASA, but will be spent here in Australia, giving jobs to Australians, maybe even farmers.



that is correct
oldtimer Posted - 23 Sep 2019 : 22:31:17
quote:
Originally posted by Trev

What a laugh, SCOMO and Trump holding each others willies waving them at the world. What a joke.

$150,000,000 to NASA, what about drought ridden farmers. This Gvmt is a joke



Sorry, I think you should have a re-think.

As I understand it, the money does not go to NASA, but will be spent here in Australia, giving jobs to Australians, maybe even farmers.
Trickyonne Posted - 23 Sep 2019 : 19:46:27
https://www.liberal.org.au/latest-news/2019/07/22/re-introducing-future-drought-fund

Itís not like scomo hasnít tried Trev

On the USA thing...would it be more beneficial for our nation to be at war with the USA ?...would you prefer a trade war with the USA ?....

Trev Posted - 23 Sep 2019 : 19:15:14
What a laugh, SCOMO and Trump holding each others willies waving them at the world. What a joke.

$150,000,000 to NASA, what about drought ridden farmers. This Gvmt is a joke
Trickyonne Posted - 02 Sep 2019 : 07:32:21
quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

I really love the way that Tanya Plibosec (whatever) manages to blame the Libs for Labor Party corruption.

Ref tonight's news on channel 20 or channel 70.


Found something on line:
quote:
The state branch has been rocked by revelations at the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) about an alleged $100,000 donation to the party from Chinese billionaire property developer Huang Xiangmo.

In NSW, it is illegal for a property developer to make donations to political parties.




quote:
Ms Plibersek said a way to improve transparency in the political system was to change political donation rules, dropping the threshold for disclosures from $14,000 to $1,000.



Right Tanya, a $100,000 illegal (alleged) donation couls have been prevented by having a donation limit under $14,000.

Let's see, $100,000 and under $14,000. The maximum is already $zero from property developers.


Gee Tanya, even us un-university edumakated people in voter land can understand that $zero is less tha $100,000.

At least we can plainly see why Tanya is not the Labor Shadow Treasure.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-01/anthony-albanese-nsw-labor-corruption-claims-cultural-change/11469004



yeah I noticed that....she tried her best to deflect the truth but ended up looking like a crook herself

Love this opinion piece...Albo might even get my vote..clearly the general public distaste the far left, so well done Albo

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/joe-hildebrand-anthony-albaneses-political-masterstroke/news-story/0491faa05b4e02a07585986773f33e36
oldtimer Posted - 02 Sep 2019 : 00:28:30
I really love the way that Tanya Plibosec (whatever) manages to blame the Libs for Labor Party corruption.

Ref tonight's news on channel 20 or channel 70.


Found something on line:
quote:
The state branch has been rocked by revelations at the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) about an alleged $100,000 donation to the party from Chinese billionaire property developer Huang Xiangmo.

In NSW, it is illegal for a property developer to make donations to political parties.




quote:
Ms Plibersek said a way to improve transparency in the political system was to change political donation rules, dropping the threshold for disclosures from $14,000 to $1,000.



Right Tanya, a $100,000 illegal (alleged) donation couls have been prevented by having a donation limit under $14,000.

Let's see, $100,000 and under $14,000. The maximum is already $zero from property developers.


Gee Tanya, even us un-university edumakated people in voter land can understand that $zero is less tha $100,000.

At least we can plainly see why Tanya is not the Labor Shadow Treasure.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-01/anthony-albanese-nsw-labor-corruption-claims-cultural-change/11469004
Trickyonne Posted - 01 Sep 2019 : 18:12:01
https://www.9news.com.au/national/nsw-labor-in-diabolical-situation-after-donations-scandal-albanese-national-news/3979fe16-706b-4de3-9515-f0f28a261454

Nsw ALP are a disgrace....who would have thought tho ?...a union movement corrupt?.....neeeeeever

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