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bigcol Posted - 17 Nov 2019 : 11:35:19
Is Religion relevant in a modern Society?

I say no and it should go the way of the Dodo.
The Catholic church has around 30 billion dollars worth of real estate in Australia. Yet thousands of families are living in cars and tents and how many homeless shelters have they built lately? It's near impossible to find out how much money they make because of their non profit status but do you honestly believe they are a non profit when the Catholics own 30 billion dollars of real estate. The churches are just money grubbers looking out for the next free ride in government funding to their private schools and anything else they can get their grubby hands on, while kids going through public or state schools are disadvantaged by lack of funding.

Then we have the human cost. Thousands of young kids molested and raped by peadophiles masquerading as men of the cloth. When the truth comes out they're dirty disgusting rock spiders who prey on young children. The death penalty is too good for these vile creatures.
When the institutional abuse was major headlines, all George Pell was interested in doing was limiting the damage to the church by putting a cap on the payouts. Well Pell even if he isn't a disgusting rock spider should rot in gaol for the protection of Gerard Rissdale who Pell moved from congregation to congregation to congregation. Time and time again after it became known that Rissdale was a disgusting pedo. So rather than reporting Rissdale to the Police Pell covered it up.

Now this isn't just isolated to the Catholic church. The founder of Hillsongs Brain Houston also was disgusting child rapist. Yep the same Happy Clappy type of Church Scott Morrison goes too.
Once again it wasn't just the Catholics.
some pretty damning figures of the pedo's in the Church

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/feb/06/4444-victims-extent-of-abuse-in-catholic-church-in-australia-revealed

Churches while making billions of tax free money also put their hand out for funding of their schools while Public and State schools get shafted.
Overall, the independent school sector receives $8.2 billion dollars to educate only 14% of the population.
Yet the majority of our kids aren't getting what they deserve and the funding is far from equal or fair. One good point about this is that kids in Public and State schools aren't having something from biblical times about a sky fairy rammed down their throats.

Churches and Religion are also out of step with modern society because of their attitude towards war. Religious fanatics are still killing and displacing millions of people around the world with their demented ideology. It's bad enough they are blood sucking parasites when it comes to funding but then it costs us the taxpayer again when we have to re-home millions and or go to war

Then we have the Climate Change mantra that our sky fairy will always look after the world and he will fix it. So in the meantime we can pollute the crap out of everything because a magical figure in the sky will save us. Here's a tip. He never saved millions from the Plague. He never saved the Indonesians or the Japanese from Tsunamis and he didn't save people in San Francisco from the earthquakes and he hasn't saved some from these bushfires

Churches and religions are nothing more than control and too make money. They should be taxed like every other business

Churches are irrelevant to modern society. The good they do is far outweighed by the lives they have destroyed and continue to destroy.
The government funding to their schools should be inline with Public and state school funding and that is all they should receive from the taxpayer
They should be taxed at 30 cents in the dollar like other businesses.
Our constitution also states separation from Church and State.
So why do we have the Lords Prayer before Parliament starts and why do we have a government that has been infiltrated by fanatical God botherers.
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djr18fan Posted - 27 Feb 2020 : 04:43:54
quote:
Originally posted by bigem

quote:
Originally posted by Trev

gawd, I thought Mick was back for a minute hahahaha



Thought it was quiet!

Personally, to answer the original question, no, it's not relevant.

Most of the atrocities that have effected mankind in the last 2000 years have been perpetrated under the veil of religion!

It's 'use-by' date is well and truly past!



It's relevant only because of the harm it causes.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/26/delhi-protests-death-toll-climbs-amid-worst-religious-violence-for-decades
bigem Posted - 26 Feb 2020 : 13:23:09
quote:
Originally posted by Trev

gawd, I thought Mick was back for a minute hahahaha



Thought it was quiet!

Personally, to answer the original question, no, it's not relevant.

Most of the atrocities that have effected mankind in the last 2000 years have been perpetrated under the veil of religion!

It's 'use-by' date is well and truly past!
Trev Posted - 26 Feb 2020 : 11:45:13
gawd, I thought Mick was back for a minute hahahaha
djr18fan Posted - 18 Dec 2019 : 16:33:50
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/17/what-would-jesus-do-things-youre-allowed-to-do-if-the-religious-discrimination-bill-passes

And

https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2019/12/17/younger-people-leaving-religion-behind

A new survey (by a conservative business group) indicates many are not returning (if they were ever there) for a variety of reasons, including the perceived irrelevance of religious institutions. Sound moral teachings are, after all, available outside church. The teaching of some churches ó punitive and discriminatory in some cases ó isnít a lure for those raised outside the church from the beginning.

Religion based racism.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/25-02-2020/ancient-giants-and-old-delusions-a-history-of-mysticism-and-racism-in-aotearoa/
Trev Posted - 15 Dec 2019 : 13:26:13
I am quite happy to take all religious holidays, not matter the faith.. The more days off the better
bigcol Posted - 15 Dec 2019 : 10:19:16
quote:
Originally posted by Zac

I have no problem celebrating Christmas - nor Easter. Both holidays and celebrations have been around since before Christ, although Christians gave Christmas its new name. It had various names before then, such as 'Yuletide' - and both Easter and Christmas had their origins in pagan festivals way before Christianity. Most of the things we associate with both celebrations (such as gift giving, carolling, fruitcake, turkey, drinking, mistletoe, holly and ivy, the Easter bunny, chocolate, Santa Claus etc.) have nothing to do with Christianity, and neither holiday occurs near the dates of Jesus' birth or death either.

I don't mind that Christians want to share their celebrations with the rest of us, but it doesn't mean I have to believe what they do. Besides, both holidays are now as much secular events as religious, even in supposedly "Christian" societies. I'll continue to enjoy these celebrations and holidays, getting together with family and friends, along with other atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs and anyone else who celebrates both occasions - including Christians.



What he said.
Well put Zac
oldtimer Posted - 15 Dec 2019 : 07:55:18
quote:
Originally posted by Trev

Used to work on Xmas Day, never gave it a 2nd thought

Do you stop for others religious (Jews, Muslims, etc) days or are you a hypocrite and work through theirs?



Religion is relevant for those who want it to be relevant and not relevant for those that want it to be non-relevant.

As a person with Christian beliefs, I observe Christian designated public holidays, but I never preach to convert others and I don't like others preaching efforts to change me to their religion or non-religion, as the case may be.

I do, however, take all holidays from all religions.
Zac Posted - 15 Dec 2019 : 07:42:17
I have no problem celebrating Christmas - nor Easter. Both holidays and celebrations have been around since before Christ, although Christians gave Christmas its new name. It had various names before then, such as 'Yuletide' - and both Easter and Christmas had their origins in pagan festivals way before Christianity. Most of the things we associate with both celebrations (such as gift giving, carolling, fruitcake, turkey, drinking, mistletoe, holly and ivy, the Easter bunny, chocolate, Santa Claus etc.) have nothing to do with Christianity, and neither holiday occurs near the dates of Jesus' birth or death either.

I don't mind that Christians want to share their celebrations with the rest of us, but it doesn't mean I have to believe what they do. Besides, both holidays are now as much secular events as religious, even in supposedly "Christian" societies. I'll continue to enjoy these celebrations and holidays, getting together with family and friends, along with other atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs and anyone else who celebrates both occasions - including Christians.
Trev Posted - 15 Dec 2019 : 06:19:29
Used to work on Xmas Day, never gave it a 2nd thought

Do you stop for others religious (Jews, Muslims, etc) days or are you a hypocrite and work through theirs?
Trev Posted - 15 Dec 2019 : 06:18:39
Used to work on Xmas Day, never gave it a 2nd thought

Do you stop for others religious (Jews, Muslims, etc) days or are you a hypocrite and work through theirs?
oldtimer Posted - 15 Dec 2019 : 00:44:44
As Christmas approaches, I feel sorry for those that feel religion is not relevant,

They will want to work on 25 December and forego the holiday and/or penalty loading.

What about their poor kids who wont be able to celebrate the visit from Saint Nicholas, or as they call him in Australia, Santa Claus.
bigcol Posted - 14 Dec 2019 : 21:48:05
quote:
Originally posted by Trickyonne

yep..dont worry about facts just name calling.. v8kindy alive and well



Facts ahhahhahahhahhahhahahhahahhahahahhahhah
I'll believe the scientists rather than religion
Trev Posted - 14 Dec 2019 : 20:51:54
Power without Glory - Frank Hardy
Trickyonne Posted - 14 Dec 2019 : 15:24:42
yep..dont worry about facts just name calling.. v8kindy alive and well
bigcol Posted - 14 Dec 2019 : 15:01:45
Brain washed fools comes to mind

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