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REM Posted - 01 May 2020 : 19:18:17
https://www.motorsport.com/general/news/motorsport-to-resume-in-the-northern-territory/4786895/
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Sonic Posted - 05 May 2020 : 22:01:36
quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert

quote:
Originally posted by bludvl

Forget the ideas of running with no flaggies. They are needed, and will have to be used. Lights don't replace sets of eyes on the ground. The actual number of officials to run a race meeting won't change dramatically.

quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert


Winton sucks because itís a car club track that normally only has a few dozen spectators at an event. And theyíre all watching from in pit lane.


How does that make it suck??


Because it's not setup to handle 150,000 or so people which is necessary for a properly successful race weekend.

Nothing to do with the track, the event as a whole just doesn't stack up financially compared to other rounds in the series.

And from interviews with the guy (can't remember his name) who runs the Winton track, he's got no interest in doing anything to change the situation. Running small races is what they're all about.



:) got a chuckle before crashing tonight. thanks abhi!
BOWYANG Posted - 05 May 2020 : 17:45:14
Abhi What ever the **** , Snowy on the trams at the Pub in Flinders lane would be where your info comes from . When this disaster is over , tracks like Winton will be the back bone of Motorsport , expensive street circuits will be gone I Tellsya .
bludvl Posted - 05 May 2020 : 17:03:16
quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert


Because it's not setup to handle 150,000 or so people which is necessary for a properly successful race weekend.

Nothing to do with the track, the event as a whole just doesn't stack up financially compared to other rounds in the series.

And from interviews with the guy (can't remember his name) who runs the Winton track, he's got no interest in doing anything to change the situation. Running small races is what they're all about.



Hahaha. I'm not even sure where to start with a response to that.

Good troll, well done.
Fast by Ferracci Posted - 05 May 2020 : 17:00:35
quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert

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Because it's not setup to handle 150,000 or so people which is necessary for a properly successful race weekend.



What permanent circuit in Australia is?
abhibeckert Posted - 05 May 2020 : 16:11:44
quote:
Originally posted by bludvl

Forget the ideas of running with no flaggies. They are needed, and will have to be used. Lights don't replace sets of eyes on the ground. The actual number of officials to run a race meeting won't change dramatically.

quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert


Winton sucks because itís a car club track that normally only has a few dozen spectators at an event. And theyíre all watching from in pit lane.


How does that make it suck??


Because it's not setup to handle 150,000 or so people which is necessary for a properly successful race weekend.

Nothing to do with the track, the event as a whole just doesn't stack up financially compared to other rounds in the series.

And from interviews with the guy (can't remember his name) who runs the Winton track, he's got no interest in doing anything to change the situation. Running small races is what they're all about.
Sonic Posted - 03 May 2020 : 22:22:31
quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert

quote:
Originally posted by Sonic

there is zero distancing at the tracks, even for small events... 2 on post with one on yellows and one on blues they are side by side for the duration

The only ones actually required are the fire marshals though.

Yellow flags arenít so important if there are no blind corners. Cars have that new light on the steering wheel that could potentially replace yellow flags if the government insists on reducing the number of people at the track.

Half the field ignores blue flags anyway so why bother? ... but seriously you could just have it at the start/finish line and also use radios. Same for slippery surface, black flags, etc etc.

Not that this is exactly how it will end up working, but itís the kind of stuff being considered depending on what the government decides is acceptable. Hopefully common sense prevails as marshals are more important for safety than social distancing... but itís likely there will be less marshals than normal and racing on tracks that already donít need many of them.

quote:
Winton could run without flaggies with all points run from upstairs... but SC will not pay to run there...


Winton sucks because itís a car club track that normally only has a few dozen spectators at an event. And theyíre all watching from in pit lane. There will be no spectators when Supercars rolls out so that wonít be an issue.

Itís also politically easier being not in anybodyís backyard. And most of the teams wonít have to cross any state borders.

From whatís been said by people who would know, Winton is one of the most in demand tracks in the country. I wouldnít be surprised if they have multiple rounds there.



when was the last time you went to Winton?

for sure there are a lot of meets where the crowds are small but the SC meet, Austin 7 and Fest of Speed (to name 3) are huge
Fast by Ferracci Posted - 03 May 2020 : 10:26:41
quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert

flags arenít so important if there are no blind corners. Cars have that new light on the steering wheel that could potentially replace yellow flags if the government insists on reducing the number of people at the track.


If we live in a era where a safety car is called every time a car goes offline on the track, you cannot run a race meeting without flags based of the reasoning that they arenít important because there are no blind corners...

quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert

Winton sucks because itís a car club track that normally only has a few dozen spectators at an event. And theyíre all watching from in pit lane. There will be no spectators when Supercars rolls out so that wonít be an


Winton sucks??

Most permanent circuits are run by car clubs. SMP/Eastern Creek, Barbagallo etc etc
fordman Posted - 03 May 2020 : 09:57:23
IF they get to run one good side maybe more track time, I doubt there will be any support classes???? we could see longer races???

I am just hoping crowds can be allowed SOON.
bludvl Posted - 03 May 2020 : 08:44:55
Forget the ideas of running with no flaggies. They are needed, and will have to be used. Lights don't replace sets of eyes on the ground. The actual number of officials to run a race meeting won't change dramatically.

quote:
Originally posted by abhibeckert


Winton sucks because itís a car club track that normally only has a few dozen spectators at an event. And theyíre all watching from in pit lane.


How does that make it suck??
abhibeckert Posted - 03 May 2020 : 07:48:11
quote:
Originally posted by Sonic

there is zero distancing at the tracks, even for small events... 2 on post with one on yellows and one on blues they are side by side for the duration

The only ones actually required are the fire marshals though.

Yellow flags arenít so important if there are no blind corners. Cars have that new light on the steering wheel that could potentially replace yellow flags if the government insists on reducing the number of people at the track.

Half the field ignores blue flags anyway so why bother? ... but seriously you could just have it at the start/finish line and also use radios. Same for slippery surface, black flags, etc etc.

Not that this is exactly how it will end up working, but itís the kind of stuff being considered depending on what the government decides is acceptable. Hopefully common sense prevails as marshals are more important for safety than social distancing... but itís likely there will be less marshals than normal and racing on tracks that already donít need many of them.

quote:
Winton could run without flaggies with all points run from upstairs... but SC will not pay to run there...


Winton sucks because itís a car club track that normally only has a few dozen spectators at an event. And theyíre all watching from in pit lane. There will be no spectators when Supercars rolls out so that wonít be an issue.

Itís also politically easier being not in anybodyís backyard. And most of the teams wonít have to cross any state borders.

From whatís been said by people who would know, Winton is one of the most in demand tracks in the country. I wouldnít be surprised if they have multiple rounds there.
Sonic Posted - 02 May 2020 : 23:12:07
there is zero distancing at the tracks, even for small events... 2 on post with one on yellows and one on blues they are side by side for the duration

yeah I guess trucks going through would be the same as freight trucks which are already allowed

Winton could run without flaggies with all points run from upstairs... but SC will not pay to run there...
abhibeckert Posted - 02 May 2020 : 18:31:14
quote:
Originally posted by Sonic

quote:
Originally posted by AlbertM

Qld teams and fans might have a bit of trouble getting back into their State. Unless border restrictions are lifted by then.



as well as teams heading there from Melb... is it still 2 weeks lockdown in SA and Qld? if so I wonder which rout the trucks would take?


It is two weeks in QLD but there are exemptions available and the list of who exactly is exempt will likely include sport soon, if the NRL are to be believed.

As for which route, the A2 route out of Brisbane goes pretty much a straight line from Brisbane to the Stuart Highway and then itís another thousand clicks up the Stuart to Darwin.

As for flag marshals it is being talked about, from the sounds of it theyíre likely to start at tracks like Winton where you can see more of the track and need fewer marshals. Tracks like Bathurst with all the blind corners probably canít happen under current restrictions... theyíre relying on social distancing rules being relaxed before getting to those tracks.
Mechz Posted - 02 May 2020 : 13:42:40
quote:
Originally posted by Sonic

one of the things seemingy overlooked in all of this restart talk, especially the mid-week racing, is who the hell will be there to flag?

flaggies are a volunteer bunch. would you give up leave/work in this environment to go away and do this? a weekend may be doable but to expect people who are already in a tight spot to come and work for you for nothing costing them even more than it normally does may be pushing the friendship a bit much?



You might get more interest as they will be some of the select few allowed into the venue.
Sonic Posted - 02 May 2020 : 09:54:46
one of the things seemingy overlooked in all of this restart talk, especially the mid-week racing, is who the hell will be there to flag?

flaggies are a volunteer bunch. would you give up leave/work in this environment to go away and do this? a weekend may be doable but to expect people who are already in a tight spot to come and work for you for nothing costing them even more than it normally does may be pushing the friendship a bit much?
Wrighty05 Posted - 01 May 2020 : 23:51:31
Winton would be one of the first picked in the current climate I reckon. Theyíll sort a deal out. Maybe not for the scheduled date, but there will be a round there if they do start again

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