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oldtimer Posted - 18 Nov 2019 : 12:37:34
There are various reports of a lot of new cars for 2020.

Projected entries so far.

Renault 3

Audi 3

VW 5

Cupra 3

Alfa 5

Peugeot 3 (with talk of 5)

Hyundai 4 (with talk of 5)

Subaru 2

Holden Astras 2

Honda 4 (with talk of 5)

There are also people enquiring about Mazdas but that will be late 2020 at best.

MG are planning on entering cars too.

The beauty of TCR racing is that anyone can buy a car and enter it and try to qualify. That is in the best tradition of Australian Motor racing. There are a lot of second hand TCRs available from overseas series.

Some of the cars will go to the NZ TCR series, but a lt may do both. We could see a new Tasman Series.

Plus, it is a lot cheaper than Supercars, Super2, Porsche, GT3 and probably GT4. And there are a whole bunch of disgruntled GT entrants that are currently not entering, and their cars are becoming outdated.

During the Bend telecast, I was amazed at the number of well known figures now involved with TCR team preparation that have a prominent and well respected past in other racing categories and Rally competition.
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journeyman racer Posted - 21 Jun 2020 : 12:11:34
My pot shots at the legends is not doubt controversial, and understandably unpopular if so. But these guys hold clout, and their word is taken seriously even if it's full of ****.

If their comment aren't more diplomatic and aren't in the best interests of motorsport as a whole, then even they must be criticised.

Otherwise you get situations like with Mick Doohan and kart racing.
BOWYANG Posted - 09 Jun 2020 : 12:20:41
JR your lack of respect shown to the "Legends" of our sport is poor form , Re Baskerville , if this turns out to be a one off so be it , well done ARG for giving it a try.
journeyman racer Posted - 03 Jun 2020 : 21:51:11
Baskerville is a popular inclusion. The series leaves itself exposed when it inevitably drops it off the schedule next series.

From my previous post. I wouldn't have done it so I could keep everything within the 2020 season. But I'm impressed that the initiative was taken keep it within January and use Baskerville.

I could somewhat understand the creep into 2021. But to use Baskerville is something that would never have entered my mind. It keeps it at a substantial 6 rounds.

As far as troy goes. What can you say? He does not talk like a genuine motor racing fan. His interest in motorsport is superficial (So no wonder he's attached to supercars). You just would not say what he says if he was fair dinkum.

Literally all the problems supercars had would be eliminated with smaller engine regs. These type of people would much rather see inauthentic cars "race" provided they kept an antiquated engine. Even at the expense of motorsport as a whole in Australia.

It's a complicated issue. Lucky for him though that the crusty old legends are completely useless nowadays to use their experience and direct where motor racing in Australia should go. Dick Johnson is even more antiquated than a 5 litre V8, so you can put him aside. Even a know it all like Larry Perkins is too busy portraying himself as a gentle old man. John Bowe is as dumb as a post.

None of these guys would endorse 2 litre cars, even though it solves a lot of problems. The only crusty old legend that would endorse 2 litre cars is Peter Brock. Evidenced by his participation in Super touring> Primarily because he caught on that that type of cars was the way forward, even if it wasn't the outright atcc class during the 90s.

If he was around now, he'd likely endorse TCR for the same reasons he did super touring. That being the case, troy can be thankful he's dead.

Sonic Posted - 28 May 2020 : 09:50:47
if you have never been to Baskerville... imagine Winton short track mixed with Bathurst and motorbike berms! it is a wicked track and I will be doing my best to be there for this!!
CP Posted - 27 May 2020 : 23:11:11
It is pretty cool that their new calendar includes a little known track in Tasmania.

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2020/05/26/tcr-australia-reveal-revised-six-event-calendar/
Sonic Posted - 27 May 2020 : 21:16:26
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Originally posted by troy01505

quote:
Originally posted by skaifeman

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

Ha! Spoken like a true blue supercars fanboy. Comments spoken like someone who's more aligned with the branding of supercars (at any cost), than actually inherently interested in motorsport itself.

This guy brings up the size of the following as a reason TCR can get away with a compromised racing calendar?

It has less of a following. But even if it had more, it's still in the same position. I was thinking more that TCR doesn't have many (if at all) commercial obligations to meet.

It can delay and delay its season opener. It can compress and further compress if it has to. And get a meaningful season done without compromising the following season. That's just like F1, a series that has a much bigger following and much bigger commercial obligations (troy will be shocked to know F1 has a bigger following that supercars).

In turn, supercars doesn't have flexibility being small can. It's not big enough that it can't take a hit like a sporting competition that's actually big (F1, AFL & NRL).

But that's what you get when people who aren't actually interested in motorsport, express opinions on motorsport.





Doesn’t seem TCR has the interest either a top tier requires. Only 2 people have made a contribution since the 26 of Feb and one of those just to troll you

Yeah this will be no 1 by years for sure.


It may become #1 by default.





Still plenty others more enjoyable around the traps.



knock other categories at your own peril... we each enjoy different groups for different reasons...

as mentioned perhaps they will win by default... if $$ are a bit tighter (which we know they are) then a different category that is growing and can give them good exposure (FTA) at less hip pocket pain may be the way to go.
troy01505 Posted - 27 May 2020 : 17:54:12
quote:
Originally posted by skaifeman

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

Ha! Spoken like a true blue supercars fanboy. Comments spoken like someone who's more aligned with the branding of supercars (at any cost), than actually inherently interested in motorsport itself.

This guy brings up the size of the following as a reason TCR can get away with a compromised racing calendar?

It has less of a following. But even if it had more, it's still in the same position. I was thinking more that TCR doesn't have many (if at all) commercial obligations to meet.

It can delay and delay its season opener. It can compress and further compress if it has to. And get a meaningful season done without compromising the following season. That's just like F1, a series that has a much bigger following and much bigger commercial obligations (troy will be shocked to know F1 has a bigger following that supercars).

In turn, supercars doesn't have flexibility being small can. It's not big enough that it can't take a hit like a sporting competition that's actually big (F1, AFL & NRL).

But that's what you get when people who aren't actually interested in motorsport, express opinions on motorsport.





Doesn’t seem TCR has the interest either a top tier requires. Only 2 people have made a contribution since the 26 of Feb and one of those just to troll you

Yeah this will be no 1 by years for sure.


It may become #1 by default.





Still plenty others more enjoyable around the traps.
skaifeman Posted - 27 May 2020 : 09:40:32
quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

Ha! Spoken like a true blue supercars fanboy. Comments spoken like someone who's more aligned with the branding of supercars (at any cost), than actually inherently interested in motorsport itself.

This guy brings up the size of the following as a reason TCR can get away with a compromised racing calendar?

It has less of a following. But even if it had more, it's still in the same position. I was thinking more that TCR doesn't have many (if at all) commercial obligations to meet.

It can delay and delay its season opener. It can compress and further compress if it has to. And get a meaningful season done without compromising the following season. That's just like F1, a series that has a much bigger following and much bigger commercial obligations (troy will be shocked to know F1 has a bigger following that supercars).

In turn, supercars doesn't have flexibility being small can. It's not big enough that it can't take a hit like a sporting competition that's actually big (F1, AFL & NRL).

But that's what you get when people who aren't actually interested in motorsport, express opinions on motorsport.





Doesn’t seem TCR has the interest either a top tier requires. Only 2 people have made a contribution since the 26 of Feb and one of those just to troll you

Yeah this will be no 1 by years for sure.


It may become #1 by default.

troy01505 Posted - 27 May 2020 : 07:45:46
quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

Ha! Spoken like a true blue supercars fanboy. Comments spoken like someone who's more aligned with the branding of supercars (at any cost), than actually inherently interested in motorsport itself.

This guy brings up the size of the following as a reason TCR can get away with a compromised racing calendar?

It has less of a following. But even if it had more, it's still in the same position. I was thinking more that TCR doesn't have many (if at all) commercial obligations to meet.

It can delay and delay its season opener. It can compress and further compress if it has to. And get a meaningful season done without compromising the following season. That's just like F1, a series that has a much bigger following and much bigger commercial obligations (troy will be shocked to know F1 has a bigger following that supercars).

In turn, supercars doesn't have flexibility being small can. It's not big enough that it can't take a hit like a sporting competition that's actually big (F1, AFL & NRL).

But that's what you get when people who aren't actually interested in motorsport, express opinions on motorsport.





Doesn’t seem TCR has the interest either a top tier requires. Only 2 people have made a contribution since the 26 of Feb and one of those just to troll you

Yeah this will be no 1 by years for sure.
journeyman racer Posted - 19 May 2020 : 19:24:45
Ha! Spoken like a true blue supercars fanboy. Comments spoken like someone who's more aligned with the branding of supercars (at any cost), than actually inherently interested in motorsport itself.

This guy brings up the size of the following as a reason TCR can get away with a compromised racing calendar?

It has less of a following. But even if it had more, it's still in the same position. I was thinking more that TCR doesn't have many (if at all) commercial obligations to meet.

It can delay and delay its season opener. It can compress and further compress if it has to. And get a meaningful season done without compromising the following season. That's just like F1, a series that has a much bigger following and much bigger commercial obligations (troy will be shocked to know F1 has a bigger following that supercars).

In turn, supercars doesn't have flexibility being small can. It's not big enough that it can't take a hit like a sporting competition that's actually big (F1, AFL & NRL).

But that's what you get when people who aren't actually interested in motorsport, express opinions on motorsport.

troy01505 Posted - 19 May 2020 : 16:05:22
quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

As opposed to all the balls supercars has to juggle to satisfy everyone involved to get a 2020 series completed. You'd think TCR wouldn't have such a problem?

They could wait as long as possible. Set a 2-3 month timeframe with even as little as 4 rounds all completed by December? It'd still be a meaningful series all nicely packaged up and done with. You can carry on with 2021 with no baggage.

You could even have double rounds? A Saturday rd1 and Sunday rd2 for example? It's something similar to what I noticed some series that ran in the 80s



They can get away with it as they don’t have the following Supercars has.
journeyman racer Posted - 17 May 2020 : 20:27:43
As opposed to all the balls supercars has to juggle to satisfy everyone involved to get a 2020 series completed. You'd think TCR wouldn't have such a problem?

They could wait as long as possible. Set a 2-3 month timeframe with even as little as 4 rounds all completed by December? It'd still be a meaningful series all nicely packaged up and done with. You can carry on with 2021 with no baggage.

You could even have double rounds? A Saturday rd1 and Sunday rd2 for example? It's something similar to what I noticed some series that ran in the 80s
bludvl Posted - 26 Feb 2020 : 23:07:56
A lot of cars at Winton today, a significant number that didn't hit the track too.

oldtimer Posted - 19 Feb 2020 : 18:21:44
GRM has 2 new Peugeot 308 for Bargwanna and Cameron.

The older Peugeot 308 will be driven by Julian Briche.

https://autoaction.com.au/2020/02/19/two-new-peugeots-arrive-at-garry-rogers-motorsport
falcon_cobra Posted - 17 Feb 2020 : 19:01:23
Bringing forward from page 3

with 2020 getting closer and the TCR season soon underway
cars confirmed and not comfirmed:

HMO
Hyundai i30
#1 Will Brown
#11 Nathan Morcom
#?

GRM
Renault Megane
#33 Dylan O’Keeffe
#34 James Moffat

Alfa Romeo Giulietta Veloces
#7 Michael Caruso
#5 Jordan Cox

Peugeot 308
#17 Jason Bargwanna
#18 Aaron Cameron

ASM
Alfa Romeo Giulietta Veloces
#9 Jay Hanson
#10 James Allen

WR
Honda Civic Type R
#50 Tony D’Alberto
#24 John Martin
# Paul Ip

MCM
Honda Civic Type R
#15 Michael Clemente

Michael King
Hyundai i30
#111 Michael King

Team Soutar
Honda Civic Type R
#110 Zac Soutar

Liam McAdam
Audi RS 3
#97 Liam McAdam

Track Tec Racing
Audi RS 3
#22 Jack Milligan

Garage 1
Cupra SEAT León 300
#64 ?

MPC
Audi RS 3
#3
#?
Volkswagen Golf GTI
#2
#35

?
Holden Astra
#?
#?

Milldun Motorsport
Subaru WRX STI
#?
#?



that's 28 cars give or take. not to bad. Only 18 confirmed!

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