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hoffy
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Posted - 23 Feb 2011 :  11:33:55  Show Profile  Click to see hoffy's MSN Messenger address Send hoffy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK, this is a purely hypothetical question, but hey.....its just a thought.

Would you go to the V8's Race day(or days) if the ticket price for General Admission was around $30, but the tradeback is all that is on the cards is V8 qualifying and V8 race (or races), I.E., no support categories at all.

Just curious, thats all.

If you don't friggen like it, why do you watch it?

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Posted - 23 Feb 2011 :  12:04:33  Show Profile  Visit rusty3908's Homepage Send rusty3908 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Yes... although there would be quite a bit of walking to do around the pits or paddock to arrest the boredom one would attract with the length of time between practice or qualifying sessions without those support categories filling in the gaps.

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Posted - 23 Feb 2011 :  12:20:09  Show Profile  Click to see hoffy's MSN Messenger address Send hoffy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by rusty3908

Yes... although there would be quite a bit of walking to do around the pits or paddock to arrest the boredom one would attract with the length of time between practice or qualifying sessions without those support categories filling in the gaps.



OK, put it this way. It's race day. They run qualifying, have a 30 minute or hour break and then run the race - similar to the kind of setup you see at the speedway, so a program is done and dusted in no more then a 3 hour period.

If you don't friggen like it, why do you watch it?
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I dont really think that the support races add to the total cost of running the event anyway. It's the infrustructure cost at street events and track owners trying to make a buck at permanent circuits that drives up the cost.

There's no practical reason why practice and qualifying couldn't be within an hour of each other and then the race an hour after that. Fill the gaps with stunt bikes and amybe a ute race and you've got your day filled.

I only go to events to watch the V8's anyway so whilst fromula fords and porsches racing each other appeals to some, I'd be happy to stick to the V8's. Give them a couple of hour sessions to practice, why not. The teams drag all their gear across the country or world and set up so why not get maximum track time.
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Posted - 23 Feb 2011 :  12:27:50  Show Profile  Click to see hoffy's MSN Messenger address Send hoffy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by The Spud

I dont really think that the support races add to the total cost of running the event anyway. It's the infrustructure cost at street events and track owners trying to make a buck at permanent circuits that drives up the cost.

There's no practical reason why practice and qualifying couldn't be within an hour of each other and then the race an hour after that. Fill the gaps with stunt bikes and amybe a ute race and you've got your day filled.

I only go to events to watch the V8's anyway so whilst fromula fords and porsches racing each other appeals to some, I'd be happy to stick to the V8's. Give them a couple of hour sessions to practice, why not. The teams drag all their gear across the country or world and set up so why not get maximum track time.



Yeah, I got to admit that for the street races, you couldn't get away with it. Simply the costs of setting up the event goes a long way to the ticket prices.

I was actually thinking along the lines of say running a night/twilight race at QR or similar tracks.

As for the price, I am comparing it against say an AFL game and the kind of ticket prices you may pay (mind you, its been a long time since I have seen an AFL game, so I am kind of guessing)

If you don't friggen like it, why do you watch it?

Edited by - hoffy on 23 Feb 2011 12:30:02
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Well look at how many went to the test day at EC, that was only V8's.




































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quote:
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Well look at how many went to the test day at EC, that was only V8's.



Good point. I also remember the old days at Surfers, when the indy cars came on the crowds left. They realised this and then put the last V8 race after the indy cars so people would actually stick around!
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No, mainly because I would be bored witless in the break times, partially because the V8's alone dont really appeal to me. It's too big a trek to get to a circuit just to watch one race series intermittently, and I like watching almost any type of motorsport - (FVees are a bit hard at times)

Support categories have to pay to get on the bill - helping bring the days costs down. Not having them means gate takings would need to be higher. You can't hire a circuit for an hour period or half day typically, and teams would be under the pump to turn the cars around so it wouldn't be much fun for them. Just saying that it would be pretty hard to get going in the current environment.

I do see where you are coming from, just not my thing.

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Posted - 23 Feb 2011 :  13:24:57  Show Profile  Click to see hoffy's MSN Messenger address Send hoffy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by TJ85

No, mainly because I would be bored witless in the break times, partially because the V8's alone dont really appeal to me. It's too big a trek to get to a circuit just to watch one race series intermittently, and I like watching almost any type of motorsport - (FVees are a bit hard at times)

Support categories have to pay to get on the bill - helping bring the days costs down. Not having them means gate takings would need to be higher. You can't hire a circuit for an hour period or half day typically, and teams would be under the pump to turn the cars around so it wouldn't be much fun for them. Just saying that it would be pretty hard to get going in the current environment.

I do see where you are coming from, just not my thing.



Yep, I get that. And you are damn right, the powers that be would have to come to the party for this kind of thing to work. And yes, I am sure it would be a challenge for them to say C H E A P E R fees (but that is why I say hypothetically!)

If you don't friggen like it, why do you watch it?
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Posted - 23 Feb 2011 :  13:58:53  Show Profile Send HDT05 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I would not go because the support classes are good to watch also.

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Posted - 23 Feb 2011 :  14:22:52  Show Profile Send the undertaker a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Posted - 23 Feb 2011 :  15:53:25  Show Profile Send TheArrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Sadly, I don't know if I'd go either.

The last few years I've kind of lost a lot of interest in the V8 Supercars. I still watch races, but I don't go to any anymore, and I don't know as much about them anymore either.

Watching the NASCAR race on the w/e proved what real racing is. Plenty of action, strategy, good racing. Not nose-to-tail-no-passing. (At least the nose-to-tail was actually producing passing in the NASCAR race.)

So my answer would probably be no. I'd save up for a NASCAR round instead

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