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Trickyonne
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Posted - 27 Jun 2013 :  13:26:21  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
and the back flipping in here has started

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Posted - 27 Jun 2013 :  14:01:36  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bundy5



We may of been the best ranked country in the world but that isn't to say it wasn't dire consisering the state that the other countries were in.



And what is so "dire" in Australia now?

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Originally posted by STP01

So out of the last 4 terms Labor have been in office they've ousted their leader 3 times. Obviously stability is not high on the party's agenda!

Howard, Neelson, Turnbull, Abbott

Yeah the Libs are shining examples.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Give it to Combet. that guy seems like a guy who can run things. He will be a good alternative and I'd have infinitely more faith in him than idiot Abbott.

Rudd was a decent leader until the party stiffed him.


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Posted - 27 Jun 2013 :  14:43:04  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by STP01

So out of the last 4 terms Labor have been in office they've ousted their leader 3 times. Obviously stability is not high on the party's agenda!



No but winning elections is. Putting a different face on this government is just the Labor party trying to hide its failures.

What are the policy failures, list them all, and I mean FAILURES

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Posted - 27 Jun 2013 :  14:51:12  Show Profile  Click to see bRaDzAsS's MSN Messenger address Send bRaDzAsS a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Thank god I don't live in Australia anymore. What a circus Australian politics is.

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Thank god I don't live in Australia anymore. What a circus Australian politics is.



Says the man in China


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I much prefer her over that 2 faced prick Rudd, she has the convictions to stand up for what she believes

Which conviction/belief was that?

The one where she stated there would be no Carbon tax under her government at the last election? Or the the one during her speech last night where she said one of her greatest achievements was the Carbon tax?

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Perhaps the only time I will speak in her defence... what PM has ever "led" the party? They are just the public face/puppet

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quote:
Originally posted by HiTone

quote:
Originally posted by Trev

I much prefer her over that 2 faced prick Rudd, she has the convictions to stand up for what she believes

Which conviction/belief was that?

The one where she stated there would be no Carbon tax under her government at the last election? Or the the one during her speech last night where she said one of her greatest achievements was the Carbon tax?



Probably because most of the electorate are to stupid to tell the difference between carbon price and a tax.

It was Abbott that linked a price on carbon to a tax. It was his idea.

And yes, it has been a success, emission are down, renewables are up, 7 million Australians pay less income tax.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Posted - 27 Jun 2013 :  20:55:14  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Trev

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by STP01

So out of the last 4 terms Labor have been in office they've ousted their leader 3 times. Obviously stability is not high on the party's agenda!



No but winning elections is. Putting a different face on this government is just the Labor party trying to hide its failures.

What are the policy failures, list them all, and I mean FAILURES



Let me see:

Fiscal policy - return the budget back into surplus for 13/14 - nope not going happen anytime soon.
Environment policy - 'there will be no carbon tax in a government I lead' - gets elected and imposes a carbon tax.
Immigration policy - from boat arrivals being two people a month under Howard to now being 3000 people a month.
Revenue policy - devised a mining tax that was meant to 'spread the wealth' and add billions to the bottom line acculmulated nowhere near its set targets.
Telecommunications policy - NBN not being delivered on schedule and being way over budget.

And this isn't mentioning the failures in the first term (BER, pinkbatts, stimulus packages, carbon trading scheme)

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Originally posted by 27GV

quote:
Originally posted by bRaDzAsS

Thank god I don't live in Australia anymore. What a circus Australian politics is.



Says the man in China



Don't the Greens advocate for a socialist system of government?




To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.

Edited by - bundy5 on 27 Jun 2013 21:02:15
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Posted - 28 Jun 2013 :  06:01:12  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

Let me see:

Fiscal policy - return the budget back into surplus for 13/14 - nope not going happen anytime soon.
not a policy failure, a backflip. It is not the Governments fault that stuff happened out of their control, granted they shouldn't have persisted with the rhetoric, but the policy was fine, the world changed.

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

Environment policy - 'there will be no carbon tax in a government I lead' - gets elected and imposes a carbon tax.
certainly not a policy failure, a back flip
quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

Immigration policy - from boat arrivals being two people a month under Howard to now being 3000 people a month.
Revenue policy - devised a mining tax that was meant to 'spread the wealth' and add billions to the bottom line acculmulated nowhere near its set targets.
not a policy failure, the only policy that will stop them coming is to blow them out of the water by the Navy, IF Abbott gets in, I bet he can't fix the problem either, we don't have an issue with refugee seekers, trust me, watch what is going on in the rest of the world, 1000 per day over the border of Syria. I don't like them coming either, but it is a world wide problem, we think because we are an island we should be immune and we aren't, every country is being bombarded by refugee seekers
quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

Telecommunications policy - NBN not being delivered on schedule and being way over budget.
Not a policy failure, they said they would do it and they are, personally I think the timing was bad, but it will be for the betterment of the Country

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Originally posted by bundy5

And this isn't mentioning the failures in the first term (BER, pinkbatts, stimulus packages, carbon trading scheme)
BER was certainly not a failure, pop down to your local schools and ask them if it was a failure - I bet you might get a surprise.

Pink batts was not a failure, it was undermined by shonky installers

Stimulus packages did EXACTLY what it was meant to do, keep people spending to keep people in jobs, yes even buying TV's kept Australians in jobs, people had to buy them from somewhere, some had to warehouse them, someone had to transport them

Carbon tax was not a failure, in fact it is starting to cut emissions, go and read some facts put out by the big polluters, it was a back flip, but not a policy failure

Sorry old mate, you are a failure

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Edited by - Trev on 28 Jun 2013 06:14:17
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Posted - 28 Jun 2013 :  07:53:07  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Could just be a tactical move by Gillard. She knows she can't win an election, so stick KRudd in as leader, let him get the party back in, then boot him out again.



But the terms of the spill was that the loser was to retire at the next election. Gillard backed that up in her conceding speech saying she intended to do this. It is more a tactic from Bill Shorten to exploit after the election.



Oh yeah, and neither KRudd nor Gillard has ever gone back on their word.
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AlbertM
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Posted - 28 Jun 2013 :  17:29:33  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Trev



Carbon tax was not a failure, in fact it is starting to cut emissions, go and read some facts put out by the big polluters, it was a back flip, but not a policy failure



Wasn't even a back flip...http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Posted - 28 Jun 2013 :  19:34:03  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by karter

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by karter

Could just be a tactical move by Gillard. She knows she can't win an election, so stick KRudd in as leader, let him get the party back in, then boot him out again.



But the terms of the spill was that the loser was to retire at the next election. Gillard backed that up in her conceding speech saying she intended to do this. It is more a tactic from Bill Shorten to exploit after the election.



Oh yeah, and neither KRudd nor Gillard has ever gone back on their word.



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Tony appears a little bit rattled today! ha ha he should be, he's started his slide down the popularity ladder again!!

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