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Madaz
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What kind of economic illiterate places value on low interest rates?


John Howard, Peter Costello, Tony Abbott, Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard, Wayne Swan, Chris Bowen...


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What kind of economic illiterate places value on low interest rates?



Wasn't that what Rudd and Bowen were doing today?

Pretty much, but they are not the ones that said interests rates are always lower under their government.

Up until now the Libs have been pushing the low interest rate thing. It's an impressive backflip.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Getting back to Queensland politics...

I saw a story on ABC news last night about a Queensland MP in a sex scandal. Texting selfies of his penis to his girlfriend, going away with her on upgraded taxpayer funded flights, having sex with her on his office desk, etc, etc. Now he's been found out, and there he was in parliament saying he doesn't want pity(?), tearfully apologising to his wife and family. Premier Newman appeared in the story, assuring the House that "the appropriate action is being taken" etc. At the end of the story, we're told that this bloke is the Head of the Ethics Committee.

You couldn't make this stuff up, and if you did it would sound too silly. Still, the more things change in politics, the more they stay the same.

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THE mistress of a Queensland MP who was caught with his penis in a wine glass says she "enjoyed the people's money" when they went on official trips together.

Ethics committee chairman and Liberal National Party MP Peter Dowling was outed by The Courier-Mail yesterday for having an extramarital affair and texting his mistress pornographic photos, including one of his penis in a glass of red wine.


Mr Dowling has also been accused of taking advantage of parliamentary trips to meet his mistress, who has not been named, in locations as diverse as Perth and New Zealand.

His mistress says all those allegations are true.

"I enjoyed the people's money too when I stayed in the hotel rooms," she told Channel 9 last night.

"I enjoyed the perks of the Australian taxpayers because I was in the hotels with him."

She also said they had sex in Mr Dowling's Redlands electorate office, and even in Parliament House, on numerous occasions.

"I would go and visit Parliament House and we'd go to his office," she said.

"And have sex, yes.

"Twice I stayed overnight in Parliament House."

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Mr Dowling stood aside from his chairmanship after the scandal broke yesterday and offered his apology to family and friends. Premier Campbell Newman said the matter was being investigated by the Clerk of Parliament.

The Courier-Mail's revelations caused a national and international sensation, with global media picking up on the story.

The Guardian in the UK observed: "If you're chair of the Australian government's (sic) ethics committee it's best not to text a photo of your penis plonked in a glass of plonk." Parallels were made with embattled New York mayoral candidate Anthony Weiner.

The Guardian also told how to recover from a texting scandal.

The UK's Independent said Mr Dowling might have trouble finding forgiveness in conservative Queensland: "Until the late 1980s, Queensland only allowed the sale of Playboy magazines that had been heavily edited to remove photos of exposed female genitalia."


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sexting-mp-peter-dowling8217s-mistress-8216enjoyed-the-people8217s-money8217-on-official-trips/story-fnihsrf2-1226692434067

This just shows how ethical this LNP government is. They are hell bent on eroding the power of the CMC
Scott Driscoll who alledgedly misappropriated hundreds of thousands through some dodgy board he set up and then into his own bank account still says he did nothing wrong.

Then we have all the jobs for the family and the likes of Michael Caltibianco who was dumped by the LNP for some un-savoury dealings.

Then not long after that we have them trying to sneak in a 57% pay rise that Campbell Newman knew about just after he was elected

Now the funny bit. Peter Dowling , my local member, Sorry but there's already way to much talk about members here.

Peter Dowling got the job as head of the ethics committee because some one else in that position was deemed not ethical enough to hold that position because he didn't think the CMC was used as a political tool during the 2012 election.
Now it has come out that not only has he been cheating on his wife and you can add family into that because they will feel like they've been cheated as well, he's been cheating the Australian taxpayer by having his mistress stay in parliament house and by living it up at the cost of the taxpayer.

The fake Prince was charged and sentenced to 15 years for ripping off QLD health.
What Peter Dowling has done is just as bad if not worse. This cretin has knowingly stole money from the QLD government. He is in a position of trust.
He should be sacked immediately, charged with fraud and sent to jail.

To top it off I've heard a rumour they should asking him for proof of purchase for the white goods and kitchen in one of his homes while he was a councillor in Redland City.

This LNP government is rotten to the core. There's plenty of reasons why they spent 20 years in opposition and this just another one

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Too much information, Col - but I like the bit about the government chasing a 57% pay rise as well. Chairman of Ethics Committee shows his ethics while chasing big pay rise. To help pay for the wine and wine glasses, maybe. Makes the story even less believable - but funnier.

Who is the fake Prince? I don't know where he fits in, but I like it.
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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/fake-prince-sentenced-to-14-years-20130319-2gcl6.html




Don't get sick in QLD because this lame arsed government has improved the ramping time of ambulances waiting outside of emergency wards but once you in the hospital that's when the care suffers
On another thing about this wonderful QLD government.
People aren't being sacked anymore. They are simply re-structured out of a job. Was told by a mates wife who is an RN that they aren't calling it being sacked anymore. Your job simply isn't there because of re-structuring.

Here's the proof

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/bali-bombings-surgeon-teresa-withers-not-sacked-just-restructured-out-gold-coast-hospital/story-fnihsrf2-1226692401922


GOLD Coast Hospital has denied sacking a top surgeon, saying she was simply restructured out of her job.

Neurosurgeon Teresa Withers, who helped treat victims after the 2005 Bali bombings, has lost her job as the hospital's director of surgery after leading a doctor revolt about issues including a bed shortage and alleged workplace bullying, The Courier-Mail revealed yesterday .

But hospital CEO Ron Calvert said claims Dr Withers had been sacked were "simply untrue".

Mr Calvert said a restructure had been needed because the hospital was moving to a new $1.8 billion facility at Parkwood, with five new services including cardiac surgery, neonatal intensive care and radiation oncology.

"These services need to be integrated into our organisational structure in a way which aligns with our core priorities of patient safety and quality care,'' he said. "As a result of this necessary restructure, a number of new roles have been created and others including the Director of Surgery role will no longer exist.''

Mr Calvert said Dr Withers had been given the choice of two new "senior leadership roles".

But the restructure has been attacked by many sectors of the health community, including the Queensland Nurses Union and the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons.

RACS Queensland chairman Bernard Whitfield said it was important to have a senior surgeon with overall control of surgery to facilitate elective operations, maintain appropriate staffing levels and to ensure procedures were performed in a safe, timely manner.

"The Director of Surgey also has a very significant role in the oversight of surgical training," he said.

The issue was discussed at the RACS Queensland branch annual scientific meeting in Cairns at the weekend where surgeons from throughout the state called on the Gold Coast Hospital and Health Service to rethink the decision to abolish the role.

QNU secretary Beth Mohle said she was concerned about the quality of nursing and midwifery services under the controversial restructure.

Gold Coast HHS board chairman Ian Langdon said Dr Withers was "a valuable member of staff and an extremely good neurosurgeon and we want her to remain".

Mr Langdon denied there was "widespread" unrest among senior doctors but said the hospital was working to improve consultation and communication.

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$16 million, drugs, fake prince, 14 years jail - but due for parole in three. Another good story there.

I thought we were doing well down here. Prisons Minister getting paid by crooks to release prisoners, another Minister in jail since 2008 for child sex and supplying drugs, the Eddie Obeid and Sir Lunchalot stories and so on and so on, but I think you're getting ahead of us.
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Posted - 07 Aug 2013 :  08:28:10  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Watch this space.
More will come in due time

We've already had the pedo in Keith Wright and we've had the corruption in Gordon Nutall. Both Labor.

I'm sure you'll find some more corruption from the LNP before it's finished in it's self serving ways.
We're well on way to the bad old Joh days

Where's Bundy. I'm sure he'll tell us this is just another Courier Mail beat up

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The Queensland LNP and Ethics, not the two words I would have imagined being included in the same conversation!!

They where rotten to the core before they got in, and nothings changed!!

Still waiting for "Minister seduces goat" to come out of Queensland!! ****ing hillbillies! ha ha

Australia's politicians are of the lowest ebb I can ever remember, and they are out of control at all levels.

There needs to be some form of 'real accountability' levelled at them, preferably by a big stick!!


Headlines on Car Advice are not good for what is left of Ford Australia's future!

http://www.caradvice.com.au/245213/ford-australia-plans-production-down-days-after-record-low-falcon-sales/

Its quite ironic that Kevin stabs FORD in the heart with his misguided FBT changes, then offers a band-aid to stop the bleeding!!

New Commodore Hey! So you used your own money? Would you like to buy a used bridge?

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That's the problem Em.

They knowingly rort the system and then when they're caught they get the opportunity to pay it back.

Peter Slipper is a beauty for this. Done it several times.

It is theft. No two ways about it. If you or I worked for a government department and used government credit cards for ourselves and didn't declare what we were doing, we would be charged, more than likely found guilty and locked away.

Why the **** should some sleazy arsed politician do exactly that and get away with it.
Dowling used taxpayer money so he could get a Cab Sav and have a bit of fun at our expense

FFS even Abbott has rorted the system and got away with it.
I don't think there'd be too many politicians that haven't

Start charging the bastards for fraud and lock them away

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Can anyone tell that the amount of info supplied is because Dowling is Col's local member?

Whilst it looks bad for him, remember he has stood himself down from being chairman of the ethics committee and he is being investigated for whether he has rorted any of his taxpayer funded travel benefits to go see his mistress. Ultimately, if he is found not to have breached any of his entitlements, the matter ends there as it becomes a purely personal matter and it will be up to the judgement of the redlands' people in 2 years time whether they want him back.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Doesn't matter a **** whether he's my member(i'm having trouble with that word at the moment) or not.
He has fraudulently used taxpayer money to expand his extra marital affair.

When that sleaze bag Wright was locked up and Nutall found guilty I was quite happy with the end result so trying to play party politics isn't cutting anyones mustard

He should be charged. This bull**** about handing back the money is just wrong. He knowingly used taxpayer money for his own gain.

He'll be judged alright along with the 2 other useless LNP members that are down here

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You know its interesting. You supply the news about Dowling (that one was an obvious one I'll give you that) and then you mention some sacking of a doctor which is also news I grant you but I would have thought that high on the list of Queensland government news that you would like to bring to the attention of this forum is the handing down of the Health Payroll Inquiry findings and that no minister will be charged despite it costing us 2-3 billion (not million, not thousands as in the case of Dowling) but billions. I thought you would be happy to provide a link to where Newman would like to go after the bureaucrats responsible for this massive blunder But then again you aren't really for good government in Queensland, so...

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FFS even Abbott has rorted the system and got away with it.




Hang on, you will have to elaborate here?

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He knowingly used taxpayer money for his own gain.




How do you know this? It has yet to be investigated.

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Up until now the Libs have been pushing the low interest rate thing. It's an impressive backflip.



Perhaps but more so under Howard. The backflip was the right thing to do. Unsurprisingly, Labor hasn't followed suit.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.

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Geez Bundy. Talk about clutching at straws.
Abbott used his travel allowance to do a book signing and had to pay it back

On Dowling his mistress has already stated she had government money spent on her

Have you suddenly lost the ability to read



QLD health payroll debacle has been done to death.

I don't really care. If any minister or bureaucrat associated with the payroll problem has been fraudulent in their dealings they should be charged.
I'd also like to add that IBM should have had their arses sued by the QLD government and the QLD government should have called their bluff when IBM said they'd withdraw services. The stupid thing about it, was that IBM didn't provide a service because nothing worked

Just for you Bundy

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/queensland-health8217s-12-billion-payroll-debacle-described-as-8216a-great-failure-in-public-administration8217/story-fnihsrf2-1226692351307


QUEENSLAND Health's $1.2 billion payroll debacle was one of the greatest failures in public administration in Australia but no charges are expected to be laid and no money will be recovered.

A $5 million, six-month-long inquiry has uncovered dishonest witnesses and buck passing while blaming a sloppy, timid government for failing to recoup losses in the scandal.

Two high-ranking former public servants have been identified as responsible for failing to take on payroll vendor - tech giant IBM - in the courts but no disciplinary action has been recommended against them.

Former Premier Anna Bligh, former Health Minister Paul Lucas and former Public Works Minister Robert Schwarten have been cleared of wrongdoing.

Inquiry head Richard Chesterman, QC, has formally identified the saga as one of the great public administration failures in Australian history.

"The replacement of the Queensland Health Payroll system must take a place in the front rank of failures in public administration in this country,'' Mr Chesterman wrote.

"It may be the worst."

Mr Chesterman has delivered five detailed recommendations including new structures to oversee large projects, control points to monitor project progression and the implementation of an entirely new health payroll system.

The payroll contract was an attempt by the former Labor Government in 2007 to create a labour-efficient pay system for more than 78,000 Health employees by outsourcing the process to IBM.

The new system imploded soon after it went live in March of 2010.

It overpaid, underpaid and failed to pay thousands of workers while requiring about 1000 more workers to process data in an often-chaotic attempt to meet fortnightly pay deadlines.

Premier Campbell Newman is believed to be considering whether to refer some of those named in the report - notably former Public Works director-general Mal Grierson and former Health director-general Mike Reid - to the CMC.

They have both emerged as key figures in the pivotal decision not to pursue IBM for damages after the payroll collapse.

Mr Grierson was found to be largely responsible for the legal settlement with IBM.

"Mr Grierson gave the state the least chance of obtaining satisfaction from IBM and gave IBM the best chance of securing a release from liability,'' Mr Chesterman wrote.

Mr Reid was found not to have ensured the legal settlement was in the best interests of the state:

"He did not examine any of the assumptions - but gave it his endorsement.''

Health Minister Lawrence Springborg denied the inquiry was a political exercise.

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Abbott used his travel allowance to do a book signing and had to pay it back


How is paying it back 'getting away with it'?

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On Dowling his mistress has already stated she had government money spent on her



So charge Dowling then based on the word of one side

But back to the Health Inquiry, I'm surprised you don't care because it cost our state a bundle. You getting all pissed off about a MP that may have rorted thousands of taxpayers' money when billions of dollars were improperly wasted, it just doesn't make sense on your part.

BTW - IBM couldn't be sued because of the incompetence of the bureaucrats waiving their right to sue them.




Getting back to the election, Labor have finally come to their senses about yesterday's rate cut in that it was a bad sign that our economy is struggling.

Coalition have committed themselves to cutting company tax which is quite likely to counteract the negative response by business to their paid parental leave scheme.

Rudd suggests that the GST may be raised by the Coalition to off-set the loss of revenue but that is more out of labor's book of fiscal economics as it kind of defeats the purpose of giving the cut in the first place if consumer confidence will lower as a result of any rise in the GST, no?

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.

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