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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 :  23:11:30  Show Profile Send bundy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Moving on...

I'm quite enjoying this:

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Independent MP Rob Oakeshott drawn into campaign by Kevin Rudd supporters
Lanai Vasek and James Massola

KEY independent Rob Oakeshott says he's been approached by Kevin Rudd supporters about his attitude to a possible leadership challenge to Julia Gillard.

However he said he would be “thoroughly unimpressed” should a “self-obsessed” Labor seek to change leaders.

As Labor MPs ended their first regular caucus meeting of the year, Mr Oakeshott said he was happy to talk to any member of parliament who could “command a majority on the floor of the house” if there was any future leadership spill.

The MP for Lyne, who was key to Labor forming minority government following the 2010 election, said he had been sounded out by Kevin Rudd and/or his backers about a potential challenge.

“Yeah, at different times,” Mr Oakeshott told Sky News, when asked if he had been approached by the Rudd camp.

Asked if Mr Rudd's supporters had canvassed whether he would support a Rudd government, Mr Oakeshott said: “Only in very general terms.”

“And I've been very clear over the past 18 months that I would weigh up what is in front of me if it did happen and I would be thoroughly unimpressed if it did,” Mr Oakeshott said.

However the MP said the approaches had not been recent.

Mr Oakeshott also said if the government was to change leaders “all bets are off”.

“All I've said is I will talk to any member of parliament who can command a majority on the floor of the house if the Labor party, in my view, was so arrogant and so self-obsessed that they dropped the ball on the reality that 18 months ago one person was left to be chief and sole negotiator on behalf of the Labor party and negotiations were done with a range of crossbenchers, handshakes were done,” Mr Oakeshott said.

His comments follow those of fellow independent Tony Windsor, who said today he did not believe a leadership challenge was imminent and that speculation was being blown up by the media.

Mr Windsor said the Labor Party was being drowned by leadership tensions but the party had a good story to tell.

“If a few people in the Labor Party want to throw that away, for their own short-term political positions, well I think that would be a bit of a shame,” he said.

The continued speculation came as a Nielsen poll showed Labor's primary vote at its highest since March 2010, up 4 points to 33 per cent.

Ms Gillard brushed off the poll and questions about her dealings with Mr Rudd and his potential leadership challenge, saying she dealt with him frequently in his capacity as Foreign Minister.

“On everything else I'll leave you to your fevered speculation, which doesn't need any facts or any commentary from me for it to continue,” Ms Gillard said.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/independent-mp-rob-oakeshott-drawn-into-campaign-by-kevin-rudd-supporters/story-fn59niix-1226263996602


I don't know when Rudd is going to get it through his thick skull that he is never going to be PM or if he did somehow gather the numbers required, sustain himself as one without having the same reasons trigger his downfall. A PM cannot survive if he is not going to be a team player (i.e. be part of the cabinet) and not one to take arbitrary and selfish decisions that he would in my view do if he was to reclaim his post. He needs to understand that Labor has to move on from him or its just going to keep them lodged in a very nasty rut.

And am I wrong to suggest that the lastest bounce back of sorts for Labor in the latest newspoll....is due to a sympathetic public that doesn't like to see the vulnerability of a woman's position being dragged through the political and media mud which it is doing with the continous claims of Rudd circulating to have a tilt.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/right-says-it-was-wrong-on-kevin-rudd-but-return-not-on/story-fn59niix-1226263248804




Oops and yes.



Is it too late to put [again] in there?

Well, as for the other, I'm quietly confident that played a part...

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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 :  23:21:33  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Gillard has been dragged through the mud since the election, it's not recent thing.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 :  23:33:38  Show Profile Send bundy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Gillard has been dragged through the mud since the election, it's not recent thing.



She is drowning in it now though...

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  07:56:41  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by bundy

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Gillard has been dragged through the mud since the election, it's not recent thing.



She is drowning in it now though...

You wish

I wish she would sack Rudd and **** him off, Latham was absolutely right about him, he is a germ

There is no doubt in my mind that he will never grow the balls to mount a challenge coz he knows he won't win it, all he is doing (and on purpose) is destabilising her leadership, it is his pathetic way of getting even.

**** him off Julia

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  08:02:34  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I dunno Trev...i think julias problems are coming from someone else

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  08:20:51  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
No, they are being generated by that little germ, he would be getting someone else to do the stirring though.

I have no doubts what so ever that if there was a leadership challenge that she would win it by a healthy margin.


As a side note, I find it interesting the way the Libs keep getting stuck into the Government about the Leadership change and yet they did the same themselves to John Gorton, someone should really say that to them the next time they bring it up. We need to move on to more pressing things, the leadership challenge happened in June 2010, there has been another election since, she won, Abbott could not convince the necesaary people he was a good choice, the LNP supporters need to accept that and move on and stop dragging up old stuff, it is becoming quite boring (as witnessed last night on Q&A)

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i would have thought, the faceless men in the back rooms who stabbed rudd are the goes causing the problems trev

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  08:28:43  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
No, it is Rudd being a bitch

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Say what you want about Rudd but it was the cancer that is NSW Labor that got the ball rolling on sacking Rudd.

We've all seen how good a job NSW Labor have done and they spread their shyte to the federal arena.
Latham might have labelled Rudd a germ but we've seen what a piece of excrement he is since.
Then you have snivelly Swan. The biggest two faced tosser God ever put breath into.
Add Shorten, Bitar and Arbib and you have all the ingredients to have NSW Labors problems spread to the rest of Australia

Rudd would have eaten No No Abbott alive at the last election and Gillard was and is about as popular as a fart in an elevator.

Don't whinge agout Rudd after the garbage he copped from these scumbags as the sitting Prime minister

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  08:44:06  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Say what you want about Rudd but it was the cancer that is NSW Labor that got the ball rolling on sacking Rudd.

We've all seen how good a job NSW Labor have done and they spread their shyte to the federal arena.
Latham might have labelled Rudd a germ but we've seen what a piece of excrement he is since.
Then you have snivelly Swan. The biggest two faced tosser God ever put breath into.
Add Shorten, Bitar and Arbib and you have all the ingredients to have NSW Labors problems spread to the rest of Australia

Rudd would have eaten No No Abbott alive at the last election and Gillard was and is about as popular as a fart in an elevator.

Don't whinge agout Rudd after the garbage he copped from these scumbags as the sitting Prime minister



i agree

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  09:46:56  Show Profile Send bundy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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No, they are being generated by that little germ, he would be getting someone else to do the stirring though.

I have no doubts what so ever that if there was a leadership challenge that she would win it by a healthy margin.





At least we are in agreement over this Trev.

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  10:16:20  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Rudd would have eaten No No Abbott alive at the last election
and IMHO Turbull would have beaten all of them, but those idiots that are the "Liberal Powerbrokers" like Abbott instead (ATM), which is a good thing I reckon - LOL

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  11:44:13  Show Profile Send bundy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Speaking about the other type of Q and A forum being Parliament Question Time, it will be interesting to see where KRudd is listed to answer a mock question from one of his colleagues. The, office of the Leader of the House, Anthony Albanese you would think would be tasked with this job and as an enemy of Rudd, his name will probably appear somewhere down the bottom...

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  11:57:52  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
why are you stating the obvious? Nothing else to contribute

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Posted - 07 Feb 2012 :  12:04:30  Show Profile Send bundy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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why are you stating the obvious? Nothing else to contribute



I'm just trying to push through to you (although you would partly understand) and to others that a man that is held in such disdain by so many of his party room cannot lead a united Labor party.

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