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bundy
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Posted - 11 Feb 2012 :  21:09:50  Show Profile Send bundy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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My preference for a budget is how it operated under Howard. Run a small surplus, say a couple of percent of GDP while making sure that there are adequate services in place and provisions and debts paid for and if there should be any left over, cut personal tax/company tax rates.

Yeah that was a typo I corrected a while ago - sorry about that

As for Howard providing services - a big 'pigs arse' I say, he (and his Government) just raped and pillaged, it was a one sided budget, they squirrelled away billions of our money, they spent on **** all. You should know that, you (and your lot) have been crowing for 18 months about how labor has wasted the money that Howard/Costello saved, now you are telling me he spent it - bull-**** I say.



It had to go somewhere Trev...whether they used the public finances enough to build national infrastructure projects is probably a contentious point, that you and I will probably disagree over, as generally Conservative governments are not that way inclined as to their priorities in Government.

But you also have to remember that a lot of that money that could of been spent in that area had to be directed towards paying the 96 billion dollars worth of government debt that Keating left Howard.

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Posted - 12 Feb 2012 :  01:05:27  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Conservative governments couldn't give a rats about the quality infrastructure one expects from their tax dollars. Sounds right.

The Education revolution was the first time in 15 years our local public school saw federal money for new buildings they desperately needed, and the ****ing whine from the mostly private school Liberal contingent was incredible.


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And Labor governments don't seem to give a rat's about balancing a budget. They just spend up big, secure in the knowledge that a Liberal government will fix up their mess...
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it is an ebb and flow process, which is why both Parties should have time in Government, but riddle me this, why is it that all pundents agree that the Hawke Keating Government was one of the best with their financial policies

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Posted - 12 Feb 2012 :  10:44:50  Show Profile Send bundy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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it is an ebb and flow process, which is why both Parties should have time in Government, but riddle me this, why is it that all pundents agree that the Hawke Keating Government was one of the best with their financial policies



Because they are Labor party inclined

But really, anyone who was responsible for deregulating the foreign exchange market, as Keating could lay claim to, would be seen as a hero as it allowed for much more enterprise in the financial sector as a whole...

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Because they are Labor party inclined
Reallu, Costello acknowldged it, a couple of the current Libs acknowledged it - go figure

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Posted - 12 Feb 2012 :  21:04:49  Show Profile Send bundy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Because they are Labor party inclined
Reallu, Costello acknowldged it, a couple of the current Libs acknowledged it - go figure



I know Trev...just joking around...

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Posted - 13 Feb 2012 :  12:44:37  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Not anymore you are not

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Conservative governments couldn't give a rats about the quality infrastructure one expects from their tax dollars. Sounds right.

The Education revolution was the first time in 15 years our local public school saw federal money for new buildings they desperately needed, and the ****ing whine from the mostly private school Liberal contingent was incredible.



Desperatley needed?? Please.....

My nieces school had just finished building a new hall, just the way they wanted it.
Along comes this Govt full of incompetant imbo's with a chequebook full of our money and TELLS them they are getting ANOTHER hall.

What to do with the newly built one? The knocked it down.

NOW - they have a hall HALF the size of the one they had built that can't even fit all the kids in it!!! They have their assemblies in the playground now!!! It's just as well, because they certainly didn't give them any chairs to go in it!

Complete and utter disgrace and another example of how they have npo idea of what they are doing.

Get rid of them. How much more do we have to take???
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Funny you bring up the BER again Rabs. In the local paper today was a picture of the sitting Liberal member unvailing a plauqe for the 2.4million dollar upgrade of the public school and taking full credit for it as a federal project.

Time to get your head out of the sand rabs and realise that the funding was needed by many schools

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Posted - 13 Feb 2012 :  21:05:28  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Albert, I don't think there would be too many who would say that schools didn't actually need some funding, it's more the way it was forced upon them, as per Rabbit's example and many, many other cases of building totally inappropriate structures.
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Posted - 13 Feb 2012 :  21:22:12  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Albert, I don't think there would be too many who would say that schools didn't actually need some funding, it's more the way it was forced upon them, as per Rabbit's example and many, many other cases of building totally inappropriate structures.



True but how many out of the thousands of School didn't appriciate it?

Bringing up a handfull of Schools doesn't constitute complete policy failure.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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And Labor governments don't seem to give a rat's about balancing a budget. They just spend up big, secure in the knowledge that a Liberal government will fix up their mess...


Have you been watching the news lately?

Labor intend to bring the budget to surplus in 2012/13. At the same time numerous countries around the world are in the toilet.

We all know that past Labor government haven't managed the economy well, but this current government seems to be doing an ok job, budget-wise anyway.


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Posted - 13 Feb 2012 :  21:51:38  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Albert, I don't think there would be too many who would say that schools didn't actually need some funding, it's more the way it was forced upon them, as per Rabbit's example and many, many other cases of building totally inappropriate structures.



True but how many out of the thousands of School didn't appriciate it?

Bringing up a handfull of Schools doesn't constitute complete policy failure.



Bloody big handful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted - 13 Feb 2012 :  23:57:47  Show Profile  Visit Marchi1's Homepage Send Marchi1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by 27GV

Conservative governments couldn't give a rats about the quality infrastructure one expects from their tax dollars. Sounds right.

The Education revolution was the first time in 15 years our local public school saw federal money for new buildings they desperately needed, and the ****ing whine from the mostly private school Liberal contingent was incredible.



And who's tax money did that come out of? free education is one thing, but you get what you pay for.

Let me ask you this, why when I was at school, did I have to pay for a tafe course that public school students got for free? Exactly the same teacher, exactly the same facilities, but I get charged a grand a semester for it. It's not like my family couldn't use the money.

It was verging on discrimination.
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