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karter
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Posted - 13 Jan 2014 :  18:42:07  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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LMAO! So the boats aren't reducing.... oh but they ARE reducing - must be Labors great policies then! Just remember, when KRudd got in there were far fewer boats than there are now. Just like there was less debt, less unemployment.....

I know, it was all the GFC. Or maybe the KFC = the Krudd Fiscal Cockup.


Abbott should have sent Krudd to Indonesia to explain why he was spying on them. He could have apologised to them too. You have to be good at something.



And there was much less debt when Abbott got in. As for you denying that the GFC had any effect on Australia. LOL.

Funny thing is the world is recovering but now Australia is in a budget crisis thanks to Abbott cutting everything. Oh except his mining mates get a tax break.

I suppose you're going to claim global conditions are why our economy is going down the ****ter. How rich.




It's always fun attacking things people never said isn't it? Takes absolutely no knowledge or facts either.

So I gather Abbott has already brought down a budget? Or is the rising debt just the continuing consequences of the last several budgets?

It's a bit rich expecting a government to turn things around in 3 months. If our economy is going down the ****ter, it's pretty clear who's responsible.

As for the boats, they aren't asylum seekers. They are illegal immigrants.

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REM
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Posted - 13 Jan 2014 :  21:10:07  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by karter

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Originally posted by 27GV

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Originally posted by karter

LMAO! So the boats aren't reducing.... oh but they ARE reducing - must be Labors great policies then! Just remember, when KRudd got in there were far fewer boats than there are now. Just like there was less debt, less unemployment.....

I know, it was all the GFC. Or maybe the KFC = the Krudd Fiscal Cockup.


Abbott should have sent Krudd to Indonesia to explain why he was spying on them. He could have apologised to them too. You have to be good at something.



And there was much less debt when Abbott got in. As for you denying that the GFC had any effect on Australia. LOL.

Funny thing is the world is recovering but now Australia is in a budget crisis thanks to Abbott cutting everything. Oh except his mining mates get a tax break.

I suppose you're going to claim global conditions are why our economy is going down the ****ter. How rich.




It's always fun attacking things people never said isn't it? Takes absolutely no knowledge or facts either.

So I gather Abbott has already brought down a budget? Or is the rising debt just the continuing consequences of the last several budgets?

It's a bit rich expecting a government to turn things around in 3 months. If our economy is going down the ****ter, it's pretty clear who's responsible.

As for the boats, they aren't asylum seekers. They are illegal immigrants.



Hmmmm....I'm no Einstein....but maybe cutting revenue sources(Carbon tax, MRT etc), but increasing expenditure (paid parental leave, maintaining compensation from the Carbon tax. etc) has 'something' to do with the budget blow out.....no? I understand the current way of dealing with asylum seekers costs in excess of $500,000 per head....but that was before we started looking at buying them lifeboats...so it could increase further yet.....

I suspect that the mass sackings of public servants by State LNP Govts and forecast of further cuts by Abbott's lot is hurting economic/consumer confidence...never mind their talking down of the economy and the country the past 6 years.....because they didn't get their way....

Data from the RCA suggests that the majority of asylum seekers are very much legitimate....and should be afforded the appropriate rights of the UNHROC....if you believe in the rule of law....and the value/sanctity of international treaties.....

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Posted - 13 Jan 2014 :  21:40:17  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I don't know how I got this superfluous prolix in my discourses REM. I've never given birth before.

PS: Maybe I'm getting confused with a prolapsed cervix after intercourse.

Edited by - Zac on 14 Jan 2014 06:52:27
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Posted - 14 Jan 2014 :  11:20:20  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
More stench from the pigs trough

Here's another one that should be facing charges of fraud

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/allegations-mps-wife-drew-taxpayerfunded-salary-despite-doing-no-work-20140113-30qwu.html



and some more secret squirrel stuff from Phoney Tony

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-shepherd-urged-to-reveal-interests-20140113-30qv5.html#poll



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Posted - 15 Jan 2014 :  00:52:55  Show Profile Send bigem a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Cant have Libs and Nats without rorting scandals, they invented them!! ha ha

Labor has the Unions for that sort of thing! ha ha


New Commodore Hey! So you used your own money? Would you like to buy a used bridge?
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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  01:40:00  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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The Australian Taxation Office wants to allow big business to oversee its own tax returns, internal documents reveal, despite the potential for conflict of interest, greed and even corruption.

The Tax Office has been working on a "transformational" plan to fundamentally change Australia's corporate tax system with companies allowed to use their own accountants to sign off on their tax bills, effectively outsourcing tax oversight to the private sector.

But discussion papers obtained by Fairfax Media concede the plan, which will bring huge savings for the ATO, comes with dangers of conflicts of interest, greed or even intimidation corrupting the process.

The cash-strapped ATO, which plans to shed 900 jobs in the next six months, has been working behind the scenes for about 18 months on the scheme, which would be open to companies with annual turnover of between $100 million and $5 billion.

Senior tax officers say the ATO would reap huge savings, but the main winners are expected to be the "big four" accounting firms, PwC, KPMG, Deloitte and Ernst and Young which would reap tens of millions of dollars each year in fees for auditing work currently undertaken by the ATO.

A series of discussion papers show the level of enthusiasm among key government tax executives about the "External Compliance Assurance Process (ECAP)" which could be trialled as early as May.

The plan involves the Tax Office accepting assurances from private sector accounting firms that their client's tax is compliant.

ATO Assistant Deputy Commissioner Stuart Hamilton says the plan will save his department money and free up resources but denies that it is "stepping away"
from its responsibilities. He was frank last month with his colleagues, and senior executives from the "big four" who are also being consulted, about how it would change the relationship between corporate Australia and the nation's tax authority.

"If we can get ECAP off the ground it will be the start of something quite transformational," Mr Hamilton wrote.

Robert Jeremenko, senior counsel at industry group The Tax Institute, acknowledged that the big accounting firms stood to gain massive windfalls, but said there was no question of it being a case of putting the "fox in charge of the chookhouse".

"With the high levels of professional ethics in the profession, companies are not going to get a free ride," he said. "The ECAP idea could fit very nicely with the federal government's push to abolish $1 billion worth of regulatory burden each year.

"It also has the potential to free up Tax Office resources to focus on areas of greater revenue risk - something the federal government would certainly welcome as it battles the bulging budget deficit."

Links between the ATO and the big four firms are growing stronger with Commissioner of Taxation Chris Jordan, himself a former KPMG partner, actively pursuing a program of recruitment of tax experts from the four firms.

These firms have paid hundreds of millions of dollars in the past decade in settlements over audits of failed companies or involvement in tax avoidance schemes.

The ATO warned corporate advisers in May 2013 not to involve their clients in aggressive tax avoidance before embarking on a series of crackdowns on various corporate tax minimisation schemes.



m.smh.com.au/national/big-business-in-charge-of-own-tax-20140115-30vat.html

Speaking of rorts, it seems Abbott thinks the tax office lacks the funds to Chase the big end of town over tax right in the middle of a shock horror debt "crisis". So us small folk get shafted by the tax man, but big business gets all the oversight of an honesty box?

Abbott sure looks after those who got him put in aye? Be prepared for more budget emergencies.


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CP
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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  08:22:51  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
What could possibly go wrong with that idea?
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bigcol
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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  08:26:29  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
As a small business owner I find the ATO's attitude to this totally outrageous.

They hound us if we're a day our two late with Business Activity Statement.
Something that costs us money to do. We collect the tax and then have to pay for the privilege

If big business and the greedy ****ing miners actually paid what they were supposed to we wouldn't be in the **** in the first place.
Time all people including governments stopped dealing with companies that set themselves up in tax havens.

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27GV
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Posted - 17 Jan 2014 :  14:15:09  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/surprises-come-from-this-no-surprises-government-20140117-30z28.html

Now Tooooony has put our navy at risk by making them violate Indonesian sovereign waters without warning Indonesia. Does he want a war?


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Posted - 19 Jan 2014 :  15:51:18  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/commission-of-audit-likely-little-more-than-bottom-covering-exercise

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 19 Jan 2014 :  17:57:37  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/commission-of-audit-likely-little-more-than-bottom-covering-exercise



Some interesting bits in there...

"Labor leader Bill Shorten is so dismayed the Coalition still wants to made good its election promise to cut the schoolkids bonus that he has started an online petition to keep it.

The bonus is an arbitrary top-up payment to families who already receive government payments, which replaced a tax refund, which was hastily devised to differentiate Labor’s tax cuts from those proposed by John Howard in the lead-up to the election in 2007. It’s linked to another means-tested family benefit, so the families who receive it can certainly use it, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s affordable or that it is the best way to help them.

But that’s all too complicated for an online petition that concludes cutting the bonus is “a savage cut to families from a government that doesn’t care about helping kids get a great education’’."


"Ditto the suggestion, so far only made by a think tank, that people should pay a $6 co-payment for bulk-billed visits to the doctor (similar to the policy the Hawke government adopted and then dropped in 1991) which is billed by Labor as the certain “end of Medicare” – with another online campaign to “save” it."
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27GV
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Posted - 20 Jan 2014 :  14:00:37  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I see all the Lib supporters dodged the part where Abbott ordered the Navy to violate Indonesian waters as part of his stop the boats strategy. Maybe he wants to get our naval personnel shot? That will stop the boats. Our boats.


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Posted - 20 Jan 2014 :  16:24:12  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/20/coalition-all-blather-in-a-substance-suit-and-a-cheap-one-at-that

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Trev
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Posted - 21 Jan 2014 :  06:52:09  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The Liberals voters here are hiding behind their hands and face palming themselves, just like we did with some of the **** Rudd did, you can't blame the Lib voters for going to ground, the Abbott Government is reminding me of the Baillieu Government of Victoria, got voted in, then did nothing, mind you Napthine isn't doing much better, the Vic Libs will be a one term Government, so will the Abbott Government

I reserve the right to arm bears

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REM
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Posted - 21 Jan 2014 :  07:52:02  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Welfare cuts to unemployed and disabled..because we can't afford it.....while we give huge payments to high income mothers on maternity leave....does anybody else see the perversity here?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/welfare-must-be-reined-in-says-kevin-andrews/story-fn59niix-1226806303830#



That's great, it starts with an earthquake
Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes
And Lenny Bruce is not afraid!
"Remember that in the end nobody wins, unless everybody wins!" Springsteen BTR.


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