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27GV
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Posted - 25 Jan 2014 :  00:14:12  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
If you want ungrateful neighbours probably best to look at the US who dragged Australia into several pointless wars that put Australians at risk at home and abroad for no tangible benefits. The strategy will be to go crying to them when a careless leader inflames one of our nearer neighbours, won't it? And we will be left hanging.

But yeah, keep on chest banging infront of a country with 15 times the population. Toooooony will show them brown people who's boss.


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Posted - 25 Jan 2014 :  19:57:10  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/no-discrimination-in-coalitions-relationship-vouchers-20130828-2spok.html

Tony feels the love, and will offer $200 to married couples to rekindle their love by the means of a voucher for counselling, and weirdly, I agree with Christine Milne on this one, as she said that the money could be spent on better things, and in saying that, she got howled down by Piers Ackerman who said that Milne obviously doesn't believe that marriage breakdowns, or lack of marriage is causing the dysfunction of society.
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Posted - 26 Jan 2014 :  16:20:06  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by CP

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/no-discrimination-in-coalitions-relationship-vouchers-20130828-2spok.html

Tony feels the love, and will offer $200 to married couples to rekindle their love by the means of a voucher for counselling, and weirdly, I agree with Christine Milne on this one, as she said that the money could be spent on better things, and in saying that, she got howled down by Piers Ackerman who said that Milne obviously doesn't believe that marriage breakdowns, or lack of marriage is causing the dysfunction of society.



Ahahaha more middle class welfare. And Toooooooony whines about where the surplus went. No money for the CSIRO, all the money for therapists!

Budget emergency took a day off?


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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 :  10:32:19  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
More jobs for the boys

Lobbyists are the scourge of modern politics. While these leeches are hanging around the government will govern for the big end of town and not govern for ALL Australians.

Lobbyists should be banned

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/jobs-figures-looking-good-for-coalitions-new-lobbyists-20140126-31gvg.html





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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 :  17:38:55  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Zac

quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

So much effort and yet you miss the point that the whole exercise is just destroying our diplomatic relationship with Indonesia.
It was no effort at all - and if that was the point and I missed it, well it was no point that I agree with anyhow. There's nothing wrong with letting a belligerent and ungrateful neighbour know that we won't always fall over ourselves trying to keep such a neighbour happy, always doing what it says, and always saying what it wants to hear - while we throw billions at it in foreign aid ($541,000,000 last financial year), and give it planes and other equipment for free. BTW, have you noticed how Marty Natalegawa has been back-pedalling lately?

For better or worse, the boats, if not stopped, have now slowed to a tiny trickle. Nil so far this year. Bad news for people smugglers, and bad news for the people buying their way onto those boats to emigrate here. If this keeps up, Australia may even get to improving its immigration program. A bigger, better, fairer program, not distracted by a steady stream of people, who in the main, are only trying to bypass our current program.

Re the ABC: The idea of selling the ABC is only an idea being pushed by people to the right of the current government (like the Institute of Public Affairs). Abbott and co. have distanced themselves from the idea. IF the idea was to gather momentum, I'd be dead against it, and I'm certain the majority of Australians would be too. The ABC, despite its faults and bias, is a bastion against the generally right-wing private media outlets. We need the ABC, and not a privatised ABC that would quickly become just another network. Besides, we wouldn't get the quality Australian programs we currently do. Anyone here watch 'A Moody Christmas'? Only six episodes, but a new series coming.



The boats have been reduced to a tiny trickle....oh thank god Zac.....so good to have inside info......the public knows Jack-**** about what is actually going on and 'the war on asylum seekers!"

That's great, it starts with an earthquake
Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes
And Lenny Bruce is not afraid!
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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 :  18:13:00  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2014/01/21/australias-die-hard-diplomacy/

Further failure from Abbott. All seems very immature from the self proclaimed 'adults'.

Oh and more great big waste from the budget warriors.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/government-to-seek-independent-review-of-the-health-impact-of-wind-farms-despite-earlier-findings-20140126-31gz4.html

"The federal government will press ahead with "an independent program" to study the supposed impact on health of wind farms as it emerged a report on the issue has been handed to government but withheld from public release."

Tooooooooooooooooooooony wasting more of our money to please some of his climate change skeptic mates. Does Toooooooooooooooony do anything that isn't for his mates?



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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 :  22:22:48  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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The boats have been reduced to a tiny trickle....oh thank god Zac.....so good to have inside info......
My inside information came from my usual insider sources: The ABC, SMH, crikey.com, etc.
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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 :  06:58:26  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bigcol

More jobs for the boys

Lobbyists are the scourge of modern politics. While these leeches are hanging around the government will govern for the big end of town and not govern for ALL Australians.

Lobbyists should be banned

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/jobs-figures-looking-good-for-coalitions-new-lobbyists-20140126-31gvg.html








I agree with you completely Col.
All professional lobbyists should be banned from having any influence on all forms of governments whether they be business or union affiliated. They are a scourge.
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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 :  08:32:45  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
It doesn't stop there.

Peter Reith once handed out a heap of defence contracts out to a company that once he retired from politics then employed as a consultant to lobby governments.

Things need to change in Australian politics.
Family members of any elected representative should not be allowed to work for them or other elected members.
Once you retire from politics you shouldn't be able to start a company that either lobbys, audits or advises governments.
Newman paid Peter Costello 2.2 million for the commission of audit in QLD to tell us nothing that treasurey the LNP and Labor didn't already know
Abbott has told us he was going to make government more transparent. Yep transparent as mud.
He also said the adults were going to govern. Well that maybe the case but he didn't tell us his un-elected former liberal mates were going to be running the show and certainly didn't tell us Peta Credlin (the one that attorney general George Brandis got off a drink driving charge) was going to have her up his back pulling the strings







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Try this and post your scores

http://australia.isidewith.com/political-quiz

I was 70% green
60% Labor
28% Liberal

Don't ask me how they work out there percentages


The Libs are hell bent on trying to implicate Rudd into the Insulation deaths and have ordered a royal commission but when it comes to possibly implicating their own it's a different story.
The Liberal government at the time sat on their hands with East timor and knew what was going on. Now Brandis is trying to hide it away.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/attorneygeneral-george-brandis-tries-to-keep-east-timor-war-crimes-secret-20140127-31iyb.html

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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 :  12:01:57  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The way Howard dealt with East Timor thing was disgusting, we had friends over there at the time, it was all about oil, it was no different to why America went into Iraq for, bloody disgraceful

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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 :  16:30:51  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The "East Timor thing" between Australia and East Timor began when Whitlam was Prime Minister, when he told Indonesia he had no problem with Indonesia invading and taking over East Timor - which Indonesia promptly did. It was seen at the time (and since) by world analysts that Whitlam not standing up to Indonesia was that he hoped that his siding with Indonesia would gain favour with Indonesia in Australia gaining access to an area of ocean between Australia and East Timor where oil and gas reserves were being discovered. Successive Australian governments didn't do too much from then until Australia (when Howard was PM, in 1999) was asked by the UN to provide peace-keeping forces to East Timor after East Timor gained independence from Indonesia. It was a tough job, because Indonesia had almost destroyed the place, and there was a lot of fighting and rioting, a lot of it stirred along by disaffected Indonesians living there. Australian governments have kept our forces there since. "As long as East Timor wants us there".

The oil and gas is in an area of sea between Australia and East Timor that has been subject to much argument about whether it is in Australian or East Timorese waters. Although there has been a lot of speculation about how much oil and gas is there, it has not been developed yet. In the meantime, Australia has given East Timor around $1 billion in foreign aid since 1999. If that aid is some kind of down payment on oil and gas, it makes it pretty expensive oil and gas - if and when it is pumped out.

Since 1975, we've had around 20 years of Coalition governments and 20 years of Labor governments. When it comes to East Timor, I can't see much difference in policy between any Australian governments, regardless of whether they were Labor or Coalition. Maybe in Australia - East Timor relations, they were all disgusting.
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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 :  17:31:27  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
So Tooooooony wants a Royal commission into his political rivals, the Unions?

Funny how quiet he has been about that other Royal Commission, the one about child sex abuse.

http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2013/09/15/tony-abbott-and-his-friend-cardinal-george-pell-perceived-bias-for-the-royal-commission-into-child-sex-abuse/

Considering his strange relationship with Cardinal Pell who is waist deep in filth:

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2004/s1210843.htm

quote:

TONY JONES: Tony Abbott on another matter, have you met Archbishop Pell during the election campaign?

TONY ABBOTT: Not that I can recall.

TONY JONES: Not that you can recall, because we believe that you've had at least one meeting with him quite recently?

You don't recall that?

TONY ABBOTT: Well, when?

Where?

TONY JONES: At the presbytery in Sydney.

TONY ABBOTT: Ah, actually now that you do mention it, I did met with Cardinal Pell.

So what?

Why shouldn't I meet with Cardinal Pell?

TONY JONES: Why couldn't you recall meeting him, I think, 10 days ago?

TONY ABBOTT: Look, whenever it was, so what?

Why shouldn't I meet Cardinal Pell.

Cardinal Pell is a fine man.

He made a very good statement the other day about the Labor Party's policy, why shouldn't I meet with him?


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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 :  18:51:04  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by 27GV

If you want ungrateful neighbours probably best to look at the US who dragged Australia into several pointless wars that put Australians at risk at home and abroad for no tangible benefits. The strategy will be to go crying to them when a careless leader inflames one of our nearer neighbours, won't it? And we will be left hanging.




Yeah, the arseholes left us to fight the Japs all on our own, bloody yanks.

Seriously, reading this thread is like listening to a bunch of babies whinging.
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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 :  20:33:44  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Come on Karter.

The shoe is on the other foot now

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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 :  22:18:07  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The CMFEU wasn't portrayed in a very good light on the 7:30 Report tonight!
Criminals, bikies, dodgy business persons and dealings.
Wonder how much of that spills over to the Labor Party.
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