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DJRford
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Posted - 28 Jan 2014 :  22:41:46  Show Profile Send DJRford a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Ok so that political quiz is just weird. I ended up 36% Labor, 33% Greens and 31% Liberals. Now I know that is not me at all, and my answers reflected Liberal policies more than anything. I'm a Liberal voter, even though most of you aren't, but if I could make up percentages of what I am I'd say 85% Liberal, 15% Labor and 0% Greens, so that quiz isn't accurate.

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Posted - 29 Jan 2014 :  05:19:54  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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The CMFEU wasn't portrayed in a very good light on the 7:30 Report tonight!
Criminals, bikies, dodgy business persons and dealings.
Wonder how much of that spills over to the Labor Party.

you could almost point to any Union and find that some members ride motorbikes, and there is probably some that have criminal convictions for one thing or another, as for the dodgy dealing, I can't comment on that as I didn't see the program, but lets look at some businesses and see if they have done some dodgy dealing, hmmm where can we start?

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Posted - 29 Jan 2014 :  07:01:58  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Trev

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Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

The CMFEU wasn't portrayed in a very good light on the 7:30 Report tonight!
Criminals, bikies, dodgy business persons and dealings.
Wonder how much of that spills over to the Labor Party.

you could almost point to any Union and find that some members ride motorbikes, and there is probably some that have criminal convictions for one thing or another, as for the dodgy dealing, I can't comment on that as I didn't see the program, but lets look at some businesses and see if they have done some dodgy dealing, hmmm where can we start?



Don't worry Trev, only **** stirring
It appears that what we all know has been going on for years is apparently a lot worse now.
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If you want ungrateful neighbours probably best to look at the US who dragged Australia into several pointless wars that put Australians at risk at home and abroad for no tangible benefits. The strategy will be to go crying to them when a careless leader inflames one of our nearer neighbours, won't it? And we will be left hanging.




Yeah, the arseholes left us to fight the Japs all on our own, bloody yanks.

Seriously, reading this thread is like listening to a bunch of babies whinging.



Babies whining? Oh right you must be referring to all the quotes from Abbott that get linked. like this one!

http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-blasts-national-broadcaster-abc-takes-everyones-side-but-australias-20140129-31lt8.html

But seriously, WW2 was 70 years ago. Japan is now our 2nd biggest trading partner.

What did Australia gain from the 40 dead soldiers in Afghanistan? And just today Abbott decided to cut the pay of Australian soldiers in Afghanistan.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/21129754/war-pay-cut-for-adf/

Karter, probably best to start living in the modern world.


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he is a gem that Tony and his merry band of 1950's thought-bubble people, this will be a one term Government like the Victorian Liberal Government and possibly the Queensland Newman Government

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Posted - 29 Jan 2014 :  16:44:10  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by 27GV

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Originally posted by karter

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Originally posted by 27GV

If you want ungrateful neighbours probably best to look at the US who dragged Australia into several pointless wars that put Australians at risk at home and abroad for no tangible benefits. The strategy will be to go crying to them when a careless leader inflames one of our nearer neighbours, won't it? And we will be left hanging.




Yeah, the arseholes left us to fight the Japs all on our own, bloody yanks.

Seriously, reading this thread is like listening to a bunch of babies whinging.



Babies whining? Oh right you must be referring to all the quotes from Abbott that get linked. like this one!

http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-blasts-national-broadcaster-abc-takes-everyones-side-but-australias-20140129-31lt8.html

But seriously, WW2 was 70 years ago. Japan is now our 2nd biggest trading partner.

What did Australia gain from the 40 dead soldiers in Afghanistan? And just today Abbott decided to cut the pay of Australian soldiers in Afghanistan.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/21129754/war-pay-cut-for-adf/

Karter, probably best to start living in the modern world.



Best get your facts straight 27GV.
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Posted - 29 Jan 2014 :  17:59:40  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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So much effort and yet you miss the point that the whole exercise is just destroying our diplomatic relationship with Indonesia.
It was no effort at all - and if that was the point and I missed it, well it was no point that I agree with anyhow. There's nothing wrong with letting a belligerent and ungrateful neighbour know that we won't always fall over ourselves trying to keep such a neighbour happy, always doing what it says, and always saying what it wants to hear - while we throw billions at it in foreign aid ($541,000,000 last financial year), and give it planes and other equipment for free. BTW, have you noticed how Marty Natalegawa has been back-pedalling lately?

For better or worse, the boats, if not stopped, have now slowed to a tiny trickle. Nil so far this year. Bad news for people smugglers, and bad news for the people buying their way onto those boats to emigrate here. If this keeps up, Australia may even get to improving its immigration program. A bigger, better, fairer program, not distracted by a steady stream of people, who in the main, are only trying to bypass our current program.

Re the ABC: The idea of selling the ABC is only an idea being pushed by people to the right of the current government (like the Institute of Public Affairs). Abbott and co. have distanced themselves from the idea. IF the idea was to gather momentum, I'd be dead against it, and I'm certain the majority of Australians would be too. The ABC, despite its faults and bias, is a bastion against the generally right-wing private media outlets. We need the ABC, and not a privatised ABC that would quickly become just another network. Besides, we wouldn't get the quality Australian programs we currently do. Anyone here watch 'A Moody Christmas'? Only six episodes, but a new series coming.



The boats have been reduced to a tiny trickle....oh thank god Zac.....so good to have inside info......the public knows Jack-**** about what is actually going on and 'the war on asylum seekers!"



I believe it's 40 days since the last arrival.
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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 :  02:05:01  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
While they're going through the unions they ought to start looking at some of building company owners as well.

An electrician mate has just written off 30 grand that he will never see from some dodgy bastard builder and a plumber mate that I go fishing with at Turkey Beach lost 90 grand in 2006 to the same thing. I'll bet my left nut the Libs do absolutely nothing about those pricks

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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 :  08:22:50  Show Profile Send Wizz23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I get sick of the hypocrisy from those bastards at the daily terror, questioning the validity of the ABCís reporting of news items and not supporting that cock Abbott and his grubs. I want and expect a none bias reporting of news. The lies that paper print in their support of the Liberals and against Labor is a disgrace. How dare they question the ABC, they are the most reliable of the lot.
Another bash of the union movement is about to begin also, Why do we need another expensive royal commission , when itís obvious there a number of criminal activities going on at Barryís and Packerís new Casino site. If there are corrupt union members there, then investigate and charge them, also investigate and charge the companies that are involved too. We wonít do that we will, we just bash all UNIONS.

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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 :  08:38:58  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The abuse and name calling is starting to go too far. We have been extremely liberal (oops, probably should have used a different word ) in this thread but it's time to scale back thanks guys.
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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 :  15:07:43  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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lets look at some businesses and see if they have done some dodgy dealing, hmmm where can we start?
We can probably start with the businesses referred to on the 730 Report - and also referred to by LG.

Can you throw some light on the SPC Ardmona issue? I really don't understand why the owners (CCA) expect the Federal and Victorian Governments to throw them $50 million. Why is the company in this situation? I understand the increased competition from cheap imports, the higher costs in producing here, and the high Aussie dollar, but will another $50 million solve the problem? CCA made a profit of $247 million in the last six months recorded, and although they will put some of that profit into investing in SPCA, it seems that all of that money, as well as any government subsidies will get swallowed up, and SPC will be back looking for more, in much the same way as GMH was doing.

Your local MP, Sharman Stone is at odds with her Treasurer and the PM, telling us that SPC needs government assistance, so maybe you as a local too, can explain why SPC needs government money - or maybe you disagree with her.

(FWIW, I support SPC products. Not only because I try to buy Australian over imported wherever possible, but because the products are always good. Ardmona chopped tomatoes for example: Best tomatoes you could ever put in your spaghetti bolognese.)

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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 :  17:38:39  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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The abuse and name calling is starting to go too far. We have been extremely liberal (oops, probably should have used a different word ) in this thread but it's time to scale back thanks guys.



Oh no, did Abbott have a cry about how we're treating him, too?







http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/22/our-trust-in-media-abc-still-leads-as-commercial-media-struggle/

No wonder Abbott wants to be rid of the ABC, people trust it as a news source. Can't have that!


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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 :  20:33:13  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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we can probably start with the businesses referred to on the 730 Report - and also referred to by LG.

Can you throw some light on the SPC Ardmona issue? I really don't understand why the owners (CCA) expect the Federal and Victorian Governments to throw them $50 million. Why is the company in this situation? I understand the increased competition from cheap imports, the higher costs in producing here, and the high Aussie dollar, but will another $50 million solve the problem? CCA made a profit of $247 million in the last six months recorded, and although they will put some of that profit into investing in SPCA, it seems that all of that money, as well as any government subsidies will get swallowed up, and SPC will be back looking for more, in much the same way as GMH was doing.

Your local MP, Sharman Stone is at odds with her Treasurer and the PM, telling us that SPC needs government assistance, so maybe you as a local too, can explain why SPC needs government money - or maybe you disagree with her.

(FWIW, I support SPC products. Not only because I try to buy Australian over imported wherever possible, but because the products are always good. Ardmona chopped tomatoes for example: Best tomatoes you could ever put in your spaghetti bolognese.)

SPC-A have been struggling for years, you should be old enough to remember when the staff took a pay cut to keep the company afloat, that was when it was a farmer owned business (co-op), everyone locally ( except a few very fat-cat farmers) was very nervous about the sell-out to CC-A.

Our 13 year drought started the decline, farmers had no water to grow the fruit (add to this the idiot Labor Brumby Victorian government building a pipeline to take more water out of the system so Melbournians could water their plants). CCA couldn't get fresh fruit to meet the sales, so they imported them,add to this that the general public don't buy canned fruit like they did 20 years ago, fresh fruit is available 12 months of the year so canned fruit is unattractive these days.

CCA also wanted to 'flatten' out the fruit season, which effectively means no seasonal staff, just permanent staff all year round, local producers obviously can't produce fresh fruit all year round

I personally think that SPCA will go, which will leave not much in Shepparton

Sharman Stone was a front bench minister under Howard, had a shadow ministry until Abbott got in, she was then relegated to the back bench, personally I wouldn't be surprised if she resigns from the Liberal Party over this, finally making this something other than a blue ribbon seat

Interestingly the Mayor made a great statement at the end of the 7.30 Report tonight, she said the Government wasn't prepared to help with 25m, but appears happy to spend 25m on dole payments to locals

I think CCA will shut the place down and soon, this Liberal decision is just what they wanted to justify the shut down

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I remember SPC being a co-operative, but thankyou for telling me things I didn't know. The "flattening out" of the season and the State Government taking water from the Goulburn Valley were two things I didn't realise. It certainly looks as though SPC Ardmona has a big challenge to come through its current loss-making situation, but I really don't believe the current government (or any government) really wants to shut it down. I can't see that $25 mill from the Federal Government (and/or another $25 mill from the State Government) would make the difference when CCA has already said it would invest $150 million into SPC. BTW, I was wondering how this stumbling block of cash from the Federal Government became the issue. It was Kevin Rudd who made an election promise of a $25 mill cash handout to SPC just days before the last federal election. Another fine mess he's gotten us into.

http://ipa.org.au/news/3037/when-multinationals-go-on-welfare

EDIT to add:IMO, the biggest problem facing SPC is the flooding of the market of cheap imports from China and Europe, and that is caused mainly by those corporate heavies, Coles and Woolworths. Not happy with decimating the dairy industry and a lot of other Australian food producers, they're into fruit and vegetables while chasing ever bigger profits. I can understand that we can't compete in the world car market, but you'd think Australia could compete successfully in its own food market. We can, if only Coles and Woolworths weren't so greedy.

Edited by - Zac on 31 Jan 2014 08:33:16
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Ok so that political quiz is just weird. I ended up 36% Labor, 33% Greens and 31% Liberals. Now I know that is not me at all, and my answers reflected Liberal policies more than anything. I'm a Liberal voter, even though most of you aren't, but if I could make up percentages of what I am I'd say 85% Liberal, 15% Labor and 0% Greens, so that quiz isn't accurate.



No it just goes to show that you aren't an extreme right wing loony which is what makes up the Liberal party today

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