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Trev
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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  10:28:57  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
My wife was just saying that they have cuts funds to the States for Education and Health telling them to increase the GST, he didn't say that last night

The devil is always in the detail - leaving out important information is a form of lying in my opinion, shonky and hiding stuff

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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  10:35:17  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
It's all about getting the states to beg for a raising of the GST.

Take the states funding and they will have no choice.

It's gutless and a cowards way of getting the states to be part of raise. The state governments will be the ones copping it from the voters

ONLY LITTLE BOYZ WEAR BOWTIES

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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  11:12:39  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

quote:
Originally posted by Trev

Tough budget this year

Mid budget next year

Then a 'great news' budget in election year, so ****ing predictable




Yep, the tried and true system used by every government.



Except the last one.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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27GV
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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  12:01:06  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bigcol

It's all about getting the states to beg for a raising of the GST.

Take the states funding and they will have no choice.

It's gutless and a cowards way of getting the states to be part of raise. The state governments will be the ones copping it from the voters



Another tax rise from Tony. No surprises haha.

Thank god Labor and Palmer will probably block it and remove the worst of the ****.

As for the LNP, at least Julia only stabbed Kev in the back. Tony is stabbing the tax payer repeatedly in the arse, and he ain't using his knife.



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Trev
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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  12:10:33  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bigcol

It's all about getting the states to beg for a raising of the GST.

Take the states funding and they will have no choice.

It's gutless and a cowards way of getting the states to be part of raise. The state governments will be the ones copping it from the voters

Exactly, you are spot on, it makes the States look like the bad guys thus increasing these idiots chances of re-election in 3 years



EDIT:

Well it likes we might be going to an election sooner rather than later if Abbott keeps this promise, he reckons he will call an early election if ALL of the budget measures don't get up

I reserve the right to arm bears

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Zac
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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  14:30:52  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Zaccy....did you see this? Awesome article....
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/13/keeping-labor-out-does-the-liberal-party-stand-for-anything-else?CMP=twt_gu

Mmm... IMHO describing it as awesome is verging on hyper-bowl. I'd call it interesting and thought provoking, and a mixture of opinion and facts. It's headed: 'Keeping Labor out: Does the Liberal Party stand for anything else?' Reasonable question, but early in the article he says: "When push came to shove, the liberals and conservatives were as one as defenders of capital - so the Labor Party was born..." He could have just as easily written a very similar piece titled: "Keeping the Coalition out: Does the Labor Party stand for anything else?" Still, a good piece and I enjoy reading anything that makes me query the status quo.

I really am struggling to work out what the major parties stand for these days. I've just listened to the ABC's one hour daily program, 'The World Today'. It was full of stuff about last night's budget, but also had reports from various places, like the Royal Commission into the home insulation program. Various people, politicians, ministers, department heads, etc. having lots of "I don't recall" moments and doing whatever they can to absolve themselves and blame others. Then there's good old ICAC in Sydney. Various people, politicians, ministers, department heads, etc. having lots of "I don't recall" moments and doing whatever they can to absolve themselves and blame others. There's also the Royal Commission into union corruption. Various people, politicians, ministers, department heads, etc. having lots of "I don't recall" moments and doing whatever they can to absolve themselves and blame others. In amongst all these people, up pops the occasional odd-bod who says "Yep, I did it - and So-and-so was in on it with me." Very entertaining, but it's not doing much for the public's perception of politicians of either side of politics. Peter Slipper still gets in the news even after all this time, there's the general smell around lobbyists, and whenever any of those stories go quiet, there'll be something somewhere about some politician with his/her snout in the trough.

I don't know how anyone can support either the Coalition or the Labor Party. I guess for those who don't, we have Clive Palmer waddling around babbling about how he supports "average Australians". Spare me.

Just on the budget: As we all knew before last night. Lots of cuts, but not too much "heavy lifting" for corporate Australia. Very easy to criticise, and the Coalition will continue to take a hit in the polls. Up until the budget, as the Coalition dropped in the polls, the Labor Party was dropping with it. Maybe that'll change at least in the short term. However, while we criticise the budget, and there wasn't a "budget emergency" or "budget crisis", we can't keep borrowing at the current rate. Someone had to make a start. Actually, I see that just before the last election, Labor had listed proposed cuts across the Public Service and various departments totalling 2% across the board. Last night's budget just raised those cuts from 2% to 2.25%. Maybe Labor was slowly waking up. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-tax-office-the-biggest-loser-as-public-service-staff-cut-in-budget-20140513-3884c.html Start from the 4th paragraph.
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CP
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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  17:51:46  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
God there are some nutjobs on the radio today. Someone complained about Hockey smoking a cigar because it gives MPs a bad look as they are smoking luxury products, while the poor people are getting cuts left, right and centre.
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27GV
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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  23:56:19  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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God there are some nutjobs on the radio today. Someone complained about Hockey smoking a cigar because it gives MPs a bad look as they are smoking luxury products, while the poor people are getting cuts left, right and centre.



I don't see the problem with that complaint. Typical pollies: austerity for everyone but themselves.


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Zac
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Posted - 15 May 2014 :  19:09:05  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I saw Tony Abbott on the news tonight. He was getting out of the PM Statesman Caprice with the 'C*1' plates, actually smiling. To show some respect for all the poor people who now have to pay $7 to visit their doctors, he should get himself a VN Commodore or an EA Falcon, drive it himself, and stop smiling.

(Yes, Trev. I know.)
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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 15 May 2014 :  20:54:38  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Zac, if they sell their VN and invest the $2 they should have enough for a visit in 13 months time when it comes in.
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Iggle Piggle
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Posted - 15 May 2014 :  21:15:16  Show Profile Send Iggle Piggle a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Zac, if they sell their VN and invest the $2 they should have enough for a visit in 13 months time when it comes in.



Or they could swap the VN for 12 EAs, then take the EAs to a scrap yard - should give them enough to visit the doc now.

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REM
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Posted - 15 May 2014 :  21:26:25  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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quote:
Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

Zac, if they sell their VN and invest the $2 they should have enough for a visit in 13 months time when it comes in.



Or they could swap the VN for 12 EAs, then take the EAs to a scrap yard - should give them enough to visit the doc now.



They were both heaps of junk......the EA just happened to be 10 times the better looking car...

That's great, it starts with an earthquake
Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes
And Lenny Bruce is not afraid!
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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 15 May 2014 :  22:02:53  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Iggle Piggle

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Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

Zac, if they sell their VN and invest the $2 they should have enough for a visit in 13 months time when it comes in.



Or they could swap the VN for 12 EAs, then take the EAs to a scrap yard - should give them enough to visit the doc now.



But they don't need the money now!
By the time it comes in (if it comes in) they will have spent all their money on booze, ciggies and Maccas.
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27GV
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Posted - 16 May 2014 :  00:21:04  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19tGgc5ZGOQ&feature=youtu.be

Damn, this is the first PM or opposition leader to look anything like a true leader in years. K.O. Round One to Shorten. Abbott's stuck his head in the sand and is even ignoring his big old mate Howard's advice.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-15/abbott-dismisses-budget-criticism-from-john-howard/5455732

quote:
Originally posted by Zac

I saw Tony Abbott on the news tonight. He was getting out of the PM Statesman Caprice with the 'C*1' plates, actually smiling. To show some respect for all the poor people who now have to pay $7 to visit their doctors, he should get himself a VN Commodore or an EA Falcon, drive it himself, and stop smiling.

(Yes, Trev. I know.)



Don't worry Zaccy, he already upgraded to BMWs at our expense.


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Zac
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Posted - 16 May 2014 :  07:30:07  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
We're paying? We have reached a new low.

quote:
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Damn, this is the first PM or opposition leader to look anything like a true leader in years.
It was a magnificent Budget Reply speech. He managed to talk solidly for half an hour and (apart from saying he's against it) managed to avoid coming up with any alternatives or initiatives to answer what was in the original Budget Speech. Is this the new Mr Negativity?

Speaking of speeches: I was listening to one of the ABC's many Sydney radio stations yesterday (630) and what was happening at the pink batts Royal Commission in Brisbane. I said earlier that there have been heaps of "I don't recall"s at the various inquiries and Royal Commissions. Mark Arbib holds the current record with 128 "I don't recall"s in one day. It was Kevin Rudd's turn yesterday. After his last big speech to the good burghers of Australia - his 22 minute victory speech after he lost the election, I was expecting big things from the master of 'It's all about me'. He didn't disappoint. He generally avoided saying "I don't recall". Why say one or two words when you can make up whole new phrases of waffle? Here's a couple of examples: "I have no particular familiarity with that conversation to which you refer", "I stand to be corrected, and, I'm paraphrasing here, but I believe the words were more along the lines of", and "I cannot reconstruct my thinking for that occasion" - and on and on he went. Marvellous stuff, that - and that's at least three "I don't recall"s that he managed to avoid.

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