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Trev
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Posted - 11 Sep 2014 :  08:30:33  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by bundy5

I believe that there is something but until they put the evidence to her that supports their allegations she is going to deny it or can't remember it...standard response.

well post up or shut the **** up - you (like the rest) have nothing

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Posted - 11 Sep 2014 :  11:28:33  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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There are bigger fish to fry but this is just a witch hunt, for some obscure reason the Australian media just couldn't cope with a female Prime Minister, particularly one smarter than most in Parliament and smarter than most of the media



I don't think it was that. I think it was more to do with how she got the gig as PM. Had Julia being given the position of Prime Minister a different way, there would be less criticism of her by both media and voters.



Hmmmmm, good idea or not?

Audits by the Fair Work Ombudsman have found up to 40 per cent of foreign workers employed under 457 visas were underpaid, not performing the jobs they were supposed to do or no longer employed by the person who sponsored their entry into Australia.
Fairfax Media has obtained monthly 457 visa monitoring reports prepared by the Fair Work Ombudsman which identify hundreds of cases of reported underpayment of foreign workers and other problems with the temporary skilled migration system.
The reports appear to conflict with the clean bill of health given to the 457 program by Immigration Minister Scott Morrison on Wednesday as he unveiled changes that would make it easier for employers to import labour.
A government report, Robust New Foundations, proposes a "fast-track" approvals process for larger companies with good records, relaxed English-language requirements and consideration of a 10 per cent reduction in the $53,900 maximum income threshold.
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The federal government's 457 visa review contained a brief summary of the Fair Work Ombudsman's work, but not the full details of the reports submitted to the Immigration Department between September last year and June 30.
More than 300 cases have been identified by Fair Work Ombudsman inspectors of 457 visa holders being underpaid, performing a job that did not match their visa application or both.
Chefs and cooks brought into Australia on promised salaries of more than $50,000 were only being paid $30,000. Several foreign-born electricians here on 457 visas were also being paid far less than the Australian average.
In another case, a 457 visa worker recruited to Australia as a customer service manager was found to be working as a cleaner and paid just $28,000.
The random audits of 457 visa holders also identified another 420 cases where people were no longer employed by their sponsor or whose sponsor could not be located, raising doubts about the bona fides of those visa applications.
Despite identifying several hundred instances of potential exploitation, the Fair Work Ombudsman inspectors found more than 1000 cases where 457 visa-holders reported no concerns.
The government's report identified just 86 "salary concerns" and 165 "position concerns" out of 1815 referrals from the Fair Work Ombudsman in a seven-month period between July 2013 and May 2014.
On Wednesday, Mr Morrison insisted that the government's four-member panel found "no evidence to back the widespread rorting claims of the program made by the previous Labor government when they referred [to] 10,000 visa rorters".
He said the current English-language requirements were "unnecessarily restrictive" and tantamount to "an industrial lockout" by unions.
"I think there are many measures in the review we can move forward with in an uncontroversial way," he said
TWU national secretary Tony Sheldon, who obtained the Fair Work Ombudsman reports under freedom-of-information laws, said the reports had identified obvious exploitation of 457 visa-holders.
"When a worker sponsored as customer service manager is working as a cleaner on $28,000, then that worker is being exploited. When a skilled professional is sponsored as a ship's engineer but being paid $5,800, then all Australians should be concerned about the integrity of the 457 system," Mr Sheldon said.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/questions-over-457-visas-as-morrison-loosens-rules-20140910-10f311.html#ixzz3Cxxu1bPY

I spotted this little gem in the paper.

http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/2545808/joyce-has-no-power-to-halt-mine/?cs=159

While Barnaby is probably right on the fact that mine approvals aren't a federal matter, he has to feel "powerless" so he can keep our best friend of the New England electorate happy.

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Posted - 11 Sep 2014 :  12:11:18  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Trev

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

I believe that there is something but until they put the evidence to her that supports their allegations she is going to deny it or can't remember it...standard response.

well post up or shut the **** up - you (like the rest) have nothing



Sorry Trev we will see what counsel assisting can come up with or alternatively, what the commissioner will determine in his final report.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 11 Sep 2014 :  12:15:22  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
There is nothing, if there was then the media would have found it by doing all sorts of shonky shyte

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Posted - 11 Sep 2014 :  12:19:58  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
There are a number of controversies over the years when that has been said; may I say prematurely said such as in the case of Thomson, Slipper etc

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  18:06:44  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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I believe that there is something but until they put the evidence to them that supports their allegations they are going to deny it or can't remember it...standard response for Liberal MP's.



Fixed

Another Lib state MP bites the dust today.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  18:51:33  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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quote:
I believe that there is something but until they put the evidence to them that supports their allegations they are going to deny it or can't remember it...standard response for Liberal MP's.



Fixed

Another Lib state MP bites the dust today.



Good try. But I think I'll stick to the way I put it.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  20:20:16  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Problem is Arthur Sinodinos has just thrown a spanner in the works of the way you put it.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  21:27:17  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

There are a number of controversies over the years when that has been said; may I say prematurely said such as in the case of Thomson, Slipper etc



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-12/icac-icac-to-probe-craig-baumann-10th-liberal-mp-developer-links/5738778

What were you saying when 10 (count them!) NSW Liberal MPs were binned for corruption?


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CP
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  22:15:28  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
You know the political donation scheme is broken when Nathan Tinkler can only pay $10000 through his building company, but can pay whatever he wants had he donated through his mining company.
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Posted - 12 Sep 2014 :  22:15:58  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by AlbertM

Problem is Arthur Sinodinos has just thrown a spanner in the works of the way you put it.



Not really as I didn't discriminate based on political persuasion.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 13 Sep 2014 :  13:58:54  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by AlbertM

Problem is Arthur Sinodinos has just thrown a spanner in the works of the way you put it.



Not really as I didn't discriminate based on political persuasion.



Bwahaha! 346 pages doesn't support that statement.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Posted - 13 Sep 2014 :  14:11:40  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by AlbertM

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by AlbertM

Problem is Arthur Sinodinos has just thrown a spanner in the works of the way you put it.



Not really as I didn't discriminate based on political persuasion.



Bwahaha! 346 pages doesn't support that statement.



Well maybe you should read what I wrote again.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 14 Sep 2014 :  12:58:50  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Why? It's clear you're a Liberal lackey.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 14 Sep 2014 :  13:30:49  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Why? It's clear you're a Liberal lackey.



If you share beliefs with a certain political party why does that make you a "lackey?"

I believe that's derogatory.
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