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Trickyonne
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Posted - 22 Nov 2014 :  05:57:15  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I think most here need to realise that both the libs and the ALP are useless....why you would bother sticking up for either has me scratching my head....then we have greens PUP ect.....face it, we are stuffed

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Posted - 22 Nov 2014 :  07:24:18  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Even after Tony specifically promised no cuts to the ABC?

I see it only matters to you when the ALP tells a fib. Double standards.



There are efficiencies to be found in the ABC. Just look at how other media outlets have cut back. End of story.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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It's hot, it's dry, there hasn't been any decent rainfall and some towns that are supplied by dams are running out of water, however Barnaby Joyce has been pushing his barrow and has solved the problem to Australia's water woes, and that is building more dams.

While Barnaby and his merry band of followers are preaching the virtues of building dams as there will be more water supplies and thus more jobs during the construction, and while that is all well and good, the problem is that you need water to fill the dam, and since there hasn't been any decent rainfall.

They are currently upgrading Chaffey Dam so it can hold more water for Tamworth, the thing is though, you can build a dam to as high and as big as you want, but if you haven't got any decent rainfall and run off to fill it, it seems like a pointless exercise.
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Posted - 22 Nov 2014 :  12:27:47  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

Even after Tony specifically promised no cuts to the ABC?

I see it only matters to you when the ALP tells a fib. Double standards.



There are efficiencies to be found in the ABC. Just look at how other media outlets have cut back. End of story.



Yawn. So it's fine when Tony lies.

There were plenty more "efficiencies" to be found taxing the big polluters but now we enjoy a $3 saving on our power bills.

Failed government fails again and only the truly deluded still support them.


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Posted - 22 Nov 2014 :  13:51:59  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

Even after Tony specifically promised no cuts to the ABC?

I see it only matters to you when the ALP tells a fib. Double standards.



There are efficiencies to be found in the ABC. Just look at how other media outlets have cut back. End of story.



Yawn. So it's fine when Tony lies.

There were plenty more "efficiencies" to be found taxing the big polluters but now we enjoy a $3 saving on our power bills.

Failed government fails again and only the truly deluded still support them.



Just as only the truly deluded supported the last government we had in it's various forms.

Sonic got it right earlier when he said BOTH sides are useless. The alternatives aren't in a happy place either so whichever way we vote we are royally screwed!

Every leader is either embarrassing, whimpy, silent or just incompetent. The ones waiting in the wings are the same. There is not one person from any persuasion who has the ability to run this country properly at the moment.
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Posted - 22 Nov 2014 :  18:22:23  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

Even after Tony specifically promised no cuts to the ABC?

I see it only matters to you when the ALP tells a fib. Double standards.



There are efficiencies to be found in the ABC. Just look at how other media outlets have cut back. End of story.



Yawn. So it's fine when Tony lies.

There were plenty more "efficiencies" to be found taxing the big polluters but now we enjoy a $3 saving on our power bills.

Failed government fails again and only the truly deluded still support them.



There is nothing efficient in imposing a carbon tax IMO.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 22 Nov 2014 :  18:55:30  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Trickyonne

I think most here need to realise that both the libs and the ALP are useless....why you would bother sticking up for either has me scratching my head....then we have greens PUP ect.....face it, we are stuffed



yup.

when was the last time anyone in any party was someone who actually inspired us?

each leader of each party blames woes on the opposite party and what they did in years past...

how about giving us a leader who actually has some vision for tomorrow? someone who is positive? someone who answers a question when asked rather than a 15 minute dribble fest?

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Posted - 22 Nov 2014 :  19:27:41  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Sonic

when was the last time anyone in any party was someone who actually inspired us?




Rudd. Although it was all fake.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 22 Nov 2014 :  20:40:30  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Rudd inspired you? How?

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Posted - 22 Nov 2014 :  20:45:49  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Rudd inspired you? How?



He didn't inspire me but unfortunately he inspired others and enough to get the overall election win.

The sad thing about Rudd was that the inspiration that he gave to these people was nothing more than tugging at the heart strings of voters to give someone new a go rather than on any notable grand policy grounds.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 22 Nov 2014 :  21:25:13  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

Even after Tony specifically promised no cuts to the ABC?

I see it only matters to you when the ALP tells a fib. Double standards.



There are efficiencies to be found in the ABC. Just look at how other media outlets have cut back. End of story.



Yawn. So it's fine when Tony lies.

There were plenty more "efficiencies" to be found taxing the big polluters but now we enjoy a $3 saving on our power bills.

Failed government fails again and only the truly deluded still support them.



There is nothing efficient in imposing a carbon tax IMO.



Balanced the budget better than gutting the ABC. And it cut our dependence on coal exports that even China won't take any more.

The only people with any vision for the future are the Greens and only because they've realized there's no future in coal.


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Posted - 23 Nov 2014 :  12:01:52  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

quote:
Originally posted by 27GV

Even after Tony specifically promised no cuts to the ABC?

I see it only matters to you when the ALP tells a fib. Double standards.



There are efficiencies to be found in the ABC. Just look at how other media outlets have cut back. End of story.



Yawn. So it's fine when Tony lies.

There were plenty more "efficiencies" to be found taxing the big polluters but now we enjoy a $3 saving on our power bills.

Failed government fails again and only the truly deluded still support them.



There is nothing efficient in imposing a carbon tax IMO.



Balanced the budget better than gutting the ABC. And it cut our dependence on coal exports that even China won't take any more.

The only people with any vision for the future are the Greens and only because they've realized there's no future in coal.



Why do you think "it balanced the budget better than gutting the ABC"? Because it didn't work - it didn't cut consumption and it ended up eating more into more of household savings.

As for the greens, it should be remembered that they are basing their beliefs on renewables that won't be able to hold base power. When they start supporting nuclear that is when you can say they are looking out for the future of the environment.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 23 Nov 2014 :  18:29:41  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by bundy5



There is nothing efficient in imposing a carbon tax IMO.



Really? It made the biggest companies help with the heavy lifting. Now that the Lib have finally acknowledged that the problem is revenue and not spending it seem they have stuffed up big time.

What is not efficient is hiking fuel tax, making people drive less only to build more roads that people can't afford to use. Or Taxing the sick to see a doctor. All while the top end of town escapes the "heavy lifting".

Interesting reading the comments by those who claimed it can't get worse under the Libs, only now preach both side suck.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Posted - 24 Nov 2014 :  15:15:13  Show Profile Send Coyote302 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
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quote:
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There is nothing efficient in imposing a carbon tax IMO.



Really? It made the biggest companies help with the heavy lifting.





And what did those big companies do? Passed on the costs to us.

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If you can't beat them, sook until you get the rules changed.








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Posted - 24 Nov 2014 :  16:00:19  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Coyote302

quote:
Originally posted by AlbertM

quote:
Originally posted by bundy5



There is nothing efficient in imposing a carbon tax IMO.



Really? It made the biggest companies help with the heavy lifting.





And what did those big companies do? Passed on the costs to us.

Off set by income tax cuts.

Problem now is that those companies used the carbon tax to increase prices more than they should have, so when the tax came off they gave back less then they took.

Anyway on to more current issues...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/24/abc-cuts-had-abbott-been-honest-about-his-true-agenda-he-would-have-been-unelectable

http://youtu.be/aeGXr0jCzr8

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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