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LP11
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Posted - 13 Apr 2012 :  23:27:59  Show Profile Send LP11 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
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Originally posted by rabbits

How refreshing it is that the Bob Brown's and Clover Moore's of this world are being removed from power - tey had too long a go at it as it was, but some sensible normality may start to return now....



Too true....Howard losing his seat and PC storming off in a tanty still bring a warm smile!

Can't wait for TA's downfall....as well!



Whatever makes you feel better REM as this news today would be very hard to take for someone like yourself of similar political persuasion to have such an iconic politician from the left bowing out of office

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And neither of them has a ****ing clue.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10798727
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It'll be interesting to see how the Greens fare in the polls from now until the next election. At the last election they polled well, mainly because there was declining support for the major parties, and a fair chunk of the Green vote was from disillusioned Labor voters - but that was before Julia's "There will be no carbon tax under the party I lead". That, apart from causing Labor's support to drop even further, has since caused a drop in support for the Greens. Now with Bob Brown moving on, it'll be interesting to see how much his leadership helped the Green vote. No matter what you think of his policies (and IMHO there's some good ideas amongst the more extreme ones), he is a clever politician, and certainly far more politically smart than Gillard and Abbott. Also, I don't know exactly what 'charisma' is when applied to politicians, but he has a lot more than either of them. Anyway, Senator Bob is moving on, and Christine Milne is taking over. You never know, maybe she'll keep the Greens growing, but history is against her. If you look at the Democrats after Don Chipp retired, they had various forgettable leaders until they disappeared. Just like the Democrats were Don Chipp, so the Greens are/were Bob Brown.
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One of the chief architects of the carbon tax, Greens Leader Bob Brown, will pull the pin on his political career just as the unpopular climate change policy he demanded begins slugging households across the country.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/bob-brown-quits-before-carbon-tax-falls/story-e6freuy9-1226326192925




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Zac....as it stands...I'm thinking that 'Donkey' is gunna romp it in at the next election!

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http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/speaker-peter-slipper-denies-staffers-allegation-of-sexual-harassment/story-e6freoof-1226334894507


SPEAKER Peter Slipper is facing explosive allegations he sexually harassed a young male adviser and misused taxpayer-funded Cabcharge dockets in a major new crisis for the Gillard Government.
The Courier-Mail can reveal the man who holds the highest parliamentary office in Australia is accused by a key adviser, James Ashby, of making "unwelcome sexual advances" and "unwelcome sexual comments".

Aide says harassment began in Slipper's home

Mr Ashby, in court documents (see below), alleges Mr Slipper only recruited him "for the purpose of pursuing a sexual relationship". The Australian Federal Police will also be asked to investigate conduct by Mr Slipper in relation to the use of public funds.

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These include claims he signed Cabcharge vouchers which were later filled out by a Sydney-based limousine driver.

Last night Mr Slipper said: "The allegations are denied."

Prime Minister Julia Gillard now faces the prospect that her minority government's legitimacy rests on two people under serious legal clouds - Mr Slipper and backbencher Craig Thomson, who is accused of using union credit cards to pay for prostitutes.

Mr Ashby is being represented by Harmers Workplace Lawyers, the firm Kristy Anne Fraser-Kirk used in her successful suit against David Jones CEO Mark McInnes.

Mr Slipper, who was last night flying back from overseas, is accused of making "unwelcome suggestions of a sexual nature" through mobile phone text messages and in private conversations.

The court documents also revealed Mr Slipper would regularly send "bizarre" kisses to him by ending text messages with an "X". One text message from Mr Slipper to Mr Ashby merely read "xxx".

According to an application filed in the Federal Court yesterday, Mr Slipper asked Mr Ashby to shower with the bathroom door open at his Canberra home.

And after complaining of having a sore neck, Mr Slipper arranged for a massage, during which he made moaning noises indicating "intense sexual pleasure".

It is alleged Mr Slipper asked several weeks later whether he preferred "twinks or bears" - terms which are homosexual slang.

In a series of text messages Mr Slipper sent Mr Ashby in February he told the staffer, "if you are interested we could be closer". But his attempt to forge a closer relationship was rejected by the adviser, who had joined the Speaker's office in December.

He also asked Mr Ashby: "You getting rocks off. Pity," during an exchange of text messages sent on February 1 this year.

A few minutes later Mr Slipper wrote via email: "U want something more? U brillianmt (sic) at massages."

However when Mr Ashby - who told Mr Slipper he was homosexual before commencing employment - said he only wanted a professional relationship, the Speaker's tone changed.

He told Mr Ashby he should "in future" arrange all communications through another staffer, Tim Knapp, as Mr Slipper said he "cannot guarantee availability".

He also threatened to stop Mr Ashby accompanying him to Sydney for two harbour cruises with delegations from Samoa and Cyprus.

According to the court documents, the Howard government was aware of Mr Slipper's sexual relationship with another young male adviser - and other allegations of sexual harassment - as early as 2003.

Megan Hobson, a former adviser to Mr Slipper, approached John Howard's then senior adviser Tony Nutt after she - and two other women - had viewed a video featuring the Speaker and the young male adviser.

According to the court documents, the video included footage of Mr Slipper lying on a bed with the male adviser and hugging him in "an intimate fashion".

After hearing her concerns about the video, Mr Nutt allegedly told Ms Hobson to "forget all about it".

Mr Ashby's legal team claim the adviser had suffered "considerable stress, humiliation and illness and was seeking medical assistance".

Anthony McClellan, a spokesman for Mr Ashby, said: "Mr Ashby has nothing further to add at this time."

The allegations against Mr Slipper come at a bad time for Prime Minister Julia Gillard, who is battling record low polls and a collapse in her approval rating. Mr Slipper's defection from the Liberal Party in late November after Labor wooed him with the role of Speaker delivered vital breathing space to the minority government.

The Liberal turncoat, who has been heading a parliamentary delegation to Africa and Europe over the last month, was flying last night.

He will return home to a political storm after being accused of being "vindictive and spiteful" towards Mr Ashby.

The Courier-Mail has learned the Cabcharge transactions allegedly took place in January and February while the Speaker was in Sydney.

Mr Slipper has been a controversial political figure for many years despite his long tenure as a Federal MP. He was first elected in 1984 as a National Party MP and was defeated in 1987. He was re-elected in 1993 for the Liberals.

He was rumoured to be fighting to gain preselection for his seat at the 2010 Federal poll. But the merger of the Liberal and National parties brought with it a grandfathering clause which guaranteed the preselection all sitting MPs.

The LNP was then set to dump Mr Slipper at the next poll but he left the party late last year and stunned the political community by becoming an Independent MP.

The LNP remains confident of regaining his seat at the next election after its dominant Sunshine Coast performance at the state election.

Below is a series of alleged conversations as detailed in court documents:

Wednesday January 4 2012: Ashby and Slipper were in Slipper's flat after work. Slipper asks applicant: ``Can you massage my neck''. Ashby says words to the effect of ``yeah righto'' as ``he did not know what other response to give as he was brand new to him job and he was being asked by his employer'.

Thursday January 5: Ashby was getting ready for work, when Slipper says: ``You're a strange one''. The following conversation then took place in words to the effect of: Slipper: ``You're a weird because you shower with the door shut''.

Ashby: ``What's weird about that?''

Slipper: ``You're a prude''.

Ashby: ``You can call me what you like, I'm happy to war the tag of prude. I don't know what you private schoolboys got up to in your day, but I've never found it normal to shower with the door open. My dad's never done it, I've never done it, my mates don't do it, that's not weird''.

Slipper: ``But you even go to the toilet with the door shut''.

Ashby:`` It's not weird and it's normal''.

Slipper: ``You should try showering with the door open''

Ashbyt: ``It's never gonna happen''

Slipper: ``What have you got to hide? What are you doing in there?''

Ashby: ``I'm not doing anything in there, it's just not normal to shower with the door open''.

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Those LNP boys certainly are an interesting lot.

Even Howard put up with this weirdo and turned a blind eye to his playing up.
Maybe he should have been Bob Browns right hand man.
Lock your goats up QLDers



Not good for the red headed one


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Posted - 21 Apr 2012 :  11:17:54  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Maybe Slipper's phone was stolen and used by the same person who stole and used Craig Thomson's phone.

Everyone knows that if the numbers weren't so tight, the government would have tossed Craig Thomson away like a dirty rag years ago, and would never have enticed sleazebag Slipper to become Speaker.
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Posted - 22 Apr 2012 :  09:15:01  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
These people get caught up in their own self importance - doh!!!!

I reserve the right to arm bears

Edited by - Trev on 22 Apr 2012 09:18:56
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Posted - 22 Apr 2012 :  16:45:29  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Slipper has slipped!
He's stepped down as Speaker.
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Slipper has slipped!
He's stepped down as Speaker.


Suck in to the ***** so he should!

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There seem to be a few weird eggs in any Parliament chambers around the country of late, such as a minister that goes to gay bars and ones who cross the floors to sniff chairs.
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A bit strange that all this dirt comes public now when the Liberals knew about previous "harassment" cases in 2003 (those seemed to be a vague attempt by Slipper to chat up a staffer? How that qualifies I don't know). People are guilty until proven innocent, I guess. And it is funny how all these "allegations" come against people it would be politically beneficial for the Liberals to remove.

I hope someone has a few allegations against Abbott so he has to step aside. I don't think he can be within 5 metres of a woman without doing something creepy...


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Abbott can't say jack about Slipper.

The libs kept endorsing him year after year and he's been rorting and paying money back for years

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was working on the 12/13 budget, we have to factor in a 27% increase on power. thanks to the Carbon Tax

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Posted - 23 Apr 2012 :  21:50:15  Show Profile Send LP11 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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was working on the 12/13 budget, we have to factor in a 27% increase on power. thanks to the Carbon Tax



On top of your already 20% usual increase, yep well done

Slipper did the right thing and stood aside from the speakership while these investigations are pending over his head...

The LNP should have disendorsed him in 2010, even 2007...him being the centre of controversy is nothing new...

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