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bundy1
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Posted - 10 Oct 2017 :  21:09:07  Show Profile Send bundy1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Looks like Roberts is gone....https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/sep/22/malcolm-roberts-was-dual-british-and-australian-citizen-when-nominated-judge-rules?CMP=soc_567

now for only a couple of LNP...and we are game on! Get ya bets on.....they won't all survive!



60-40 is what constitutional law expert Graeme Orr put it in favour of them getting booted. I put it the other way around.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/federal/high-farce-in-the-high-court-your-guide-to-the-citizenship-seven-20171009-p4ywdg.html

Well said - sums up the hypocrisy of LG and the fordies -
http://www.v8central.com/snitz3403/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39351&whichpage=11#875389



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Can i ask how any of this affects how the nation is run? At least you know things can't be too bad in Aussie politics when this is the biggest issue "affecting" Australia currently.

Edited by - Jam3s on 11 Oct 2017 09:58:00
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You forgot the same sex marriage debate. This'll affect the way the nation is run if decisions go against any of these MPs. For one, if Barnaby Joyce was ruled ineligible, we'd be heading for a change of government.
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Posted - 11 Oct 2017 :  11:05:54  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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You forgot the same sex marriage debate. This'll affect the way the nation is run if decisions go against any of these MPs. For one, if Barnaby Joyce was ruled ineligible, we'd be heading for a change of government.



Surely if he is found ineligible, surely that affects the rest of his political record?


EDIT: According to various news reports, our welfare bill works out at about $300000 per minute.

Edited by - CP on 23 Oct 2017 12:34:49
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Posted - 24 Oct 2017 :  12:16:10  Show Profile Send bundy1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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EDIT: According to various news reports, our welfare bill works out at about $300000 per minute.



And what is our unemployment rate again? Goes to show that we are one of most generous countries in the world when it comes to government handouts.

Well said - sums up the hypocrisy of LG and the fordies -
http://www.v8central.com/snitz3403/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39351&whichpage=11#875389



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EDIT: According to various news reports, our welfare bill works out at about $300000 per minute.



And what is our unemployment rate again? Goes to show that we are one of most generous countries in the world when it comes to government handouts.



Possibly, but the employment numbers also count those that only have one hour of work a week.
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Posted - 24 Oct 2017 :  12:30:08  Show Profile Send bundy1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by CP

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Originally posted by bundy1

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Originally posted by CP

EDIT: According to various news reports, our welfare bill works out at about $300000 per minute.



And what is our unemployment rate again? Goes to show that we are one of most generous countries in the world when it comes to government handouts.



Possibly, but the employment numbers also count those that only have one hour of work a week.



Yes but that doesn't disqualify them for income assistance from the government.

Well said - sums up the hypocrisy of LG and the fordies -
http://www.v8central.com/snitz3403/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39351&whichpage=11#875389



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Posted - 24 Oct 2017 :  14:08:02  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by bundy1

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Originally posted by CP

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Originally posted by bundy1

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Originally posted by CP

EDIT: According to various news reports, our welfare bill works out at about $300000 per minute.



And what is our unemployment rate again? Goes to show that we are one of most generous countries in the world when it comes to government handouts.



Possibly, but the employment numbers also count those that only have one hour of work a week.



Yes but that doesn't disqualify them for income assistance from the government.



Do you think that you can manage on 1 hour week of work without Centrelink?
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Originally posted by CP

EDIT: According to various news reports, our welfare bill works out at about $300000 per minute.



And what is our unemployment rate again? Goes to show that we are one of most generous countries in the world when it comes to government handouts.



Welfare doesn't only include the unemployed...
It would be interesting to see a breakdown of that figure.
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I learnt last week that apparently a previous Government moved people from the unemployment line into the disability line to make the 'unemployment' numbers look better than they really were, and now they are trying to move them back, but is creating grief for the genuine people on disability allowance

I reserve the right to arm bears
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Both Labor and the Coalition do what they can to fudge the figures to make them look as favourable to them as possible. As CP said a few posts above, as long as a person is working at least a few hours a week, they go onto the 'employed' figures. You can guarantee that many of those workers from Ford, Holden and Toyota who have gone from full-time employment to part-time, casual, or whatever else they can find are not showing up anywhere to any increase in unemployment, but they've certainly dropped in their employment and income. I hadn't heard about people being moved from unemployment payments to disability payments, but I suppose as long as any government is using the same system to produce these figures, unemployment can be tracked and compared. It's just not as accurate as it should be.
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Posted - 24 Oct 2017 :  21:00:33  Show Profile Send bundy1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by CP

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Originally posted by bundy1

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Originally posted by CP

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Originally posted by bundy1

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Originally posted by CP

EDIT: According to various news reports, our welfare bill works out at about $300000 per minute.



And what is our unemployment rate again? Goes to show that we are one of most generous countries in the world when it comes to government handouts.



Possibly, but the employment numbers also count those that only have one hour of work a week.



Yes but that doesn't disqualify them for income assistance from the government.



Do you think that you can manage on 1 hour week of work without Centrelink?



I wouldn't be working for an amount of hours where I would still need Centrelink to supplement my income.

Well said - sums up the hypocrisy of LG and the fordies -
http://www.v8central.com/snitz3403/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39351&whichpage=11#875389



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Posted - 24 Oct 2017 :  21:25:37  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by bundy1

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Originally posted by CP

quote:
Originally posted by bundy1

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Originally posted by CP

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Originally posted by bundy1

quote:
Originally posted by CP

EDIT: According to various news reports, our welfare bill works out at about $300000 per minute.



And what is our unemployment rate again? Goes to show that we are one of most generous countries in the world when it comes to government handouts.



Possibly, but the employment numbers also count those that only have one hour of work a week.



Yes but that doesn't disqualify them for income assistance from the government.



Do you think that you can manage on 1 hour week of work without Centrelink?



I wouldn't be working for an amount of hours where I would still need Centrelink to supplement my income.



Do I bite my tongue or do do I ask another question?

What if you were a victim of circumstance and had to supplement your income, as many others in that situation do? I highly doubt that if need be, you'd be searching for cash in hand work so you don't declare it?
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Posted - 24 Oct 2017 :  21:28:51  Show Profile Send bundy1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by bundy1

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Originally posted by CP

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Originally posted by bundy1

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Originally posted by CP

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Originally posted by bundy1

quote:
Originally posted by CP

EDIT: According to various news reports, our welfare bill works out at about $300000 per minute.



And what is our unemployment rate again? Goes to show that we are one of most generous countries in the world when it comes to government handouts.



Possibly, but the employment numbers also count those that only have one hour of work a week.



Yes but that doesn't disqualify them for income assistance from the government.



Do you think that you can manage on 1 hour week of work without Centrelink?



I wouldn't be working for an amount of hours where I would still need Centrelink to supplement my income.



Do I bite my tongue or do do I ask another question?

What if you were a victim of circumstance and had to supplement your income, as many others in that situation do? I highly doubt that if need be, you'd be searching for cash in hand work so you don't declare it?



I would downgrade what I do to get by in the short term - work retail if need be. Anything to stay off Centrelink and be a further drain on society.

Well said - sums up the hypocrisy of LG and the fordies -
http://www.v8central.com/snitz3403/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39351&whichpage=11#875389



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If you jump on the Centrelink webpage you can quite easily see how many hours people can work and still maintain disability allowance, it is up to 30 hours per week before there is a penalty, they will adjust your allowance depending on the hours worked, BUT if you are working 30 hours then you will come under scrutiny as THEY believe that if you can work 30 pw then you can work 38. Some stupid buggers around here worked full time at a seasonal job for a few months then wondered why they were moved off disability onto Newstart - LOL

Stress and depression are the new 'sore backs' for Disability Allowance, and unlike a sore back it is very very difficult to disprove stress or depression, in fact the weirder you behave the more you are proving the point



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and he is gone as I predicted - LOL

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-27/live-blog-high-court-delivers-judgement-on-citizenship-seven/9085032

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Edited by - Trev on 27 Oct 2017 15:37:48
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