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REM
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Posted - 23 Jun 2012 :  17:57:06  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Madaz

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Originally posted by Zac

The Liberal and Labor supporters will have different takes on how the Howard government got it. Some will say they did it by selling things, by screwing the poor and disadvantaged, by introducing the GST, etc. Others will say that they got it by not spending what they didn't have, by not sending $900 cheques to anyone and everyone, including dead people, people permanently living overseas and people who don't exist, nor by throwing money at some of the worst thought out, half-arsed schemes this country has ever seen. However they did it, they managed to do it for eleven years while the current government is pretending to do it for just one. Prudent financial management has given Julia Gillard the chance to strut the world stage telling everyone what marvellous economic managers we are here in Australia. It just wasn't her government's economic management that gave her that opportunity.


I guess it didn't hurt that the previous government was in office during a boom economic period.

In contrast, the current government has to contend with one of the worst global recessions in history.

It would be interesting to see what would have happened if Howard was still PM today. He would have done things differently for sure but I don't think the budget bottom line would have been much better than it is now, if at all.






His was the highest taxing and spending(on middle class welfare) Govt at the time.....Howard was all "spend, spend spend"....Costello was all "no, no,no!" Much like Abbott and Hockey now....cept Howard knew the money had to come from somewhere......unlike Abbott now!

That's great, it starts with an earthquake
Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes
And Lenny Bruce is not afraid!
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Posted - 29 Jun 2012 :  18:09:40  Show Profile Send bigem a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Its time for this Government to go. The pricks still cant work a solution for the boat people??

They have now gone on a 6 week holiday without any resolution to the problem!!

they should be ****ingwell ashamed of themselves!!

New Commodore Hey! So you used your own money? Would you like to buy a used bridge?
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Posted - 29 Jun 2012 :  22:28:49  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
There is a "solution", the Greens and Libs won't let it pass. It was a riot listening to the uncompromising Abbott, lecturing Labor how they need to compromise.

The real laugh I get out of this is though. If people's hearts bled so much for these boat people and their safety, they would let them stay in Australia instead of flying them off to a pen located on an island in the middle of the pacific. We get 150,000 immigrants a year and we are worried about 4,500 boat people? I have to give credit to Howard and the Libs for hoodwinking the public into thinking it's a major catastrophe and a great issue for polictical point scoring.

Either way, on shore, off shore we will still be paying for it.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Posted - 30 Jun 2012 :  05:37:06  Show Profile  Click to see falcon_cobra's MSN Messenger address Send falcon_cobra a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
i say open the gates

we should give Queensland to the Asians, they own most of it now,
give South Australia, New South Wales, and Victoria to the Europeans, thats where most of them live now,
Give Tasmania to England, its about the same size, just it still has trees
give Western Australia to America, they own a lot over there and its big, and they like Big

we can keep Northern Territory

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Posted - 30 Jun 2012 :  05:49:46  Show Profile Send the undertaker a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I thought you had given the NT to the Aboriginals already.

The Gold Coast already belongs to New Zealand so the Asians can just have the rest of Queensland, thanks.

I guess that leaves Canberra for the South Africans. They seem to run the prisons, and that's where most MP's should be, anyway.
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Posted - 30 Jun 2012 :  07:09:24  Show Profile  Click to see falcon_cobra's MSN Messenger address Send falcon_cobra a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
as our once great leader said "Sorry"

is of cause

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Posted - 30 Jun 2012 :  08:49:10  Show Profile Send bigem a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by AlbertM

There is a "solution", the Greens and Libs won't let it pass. It was a riot listening to the uncompromising Abbott, lecturing Labor how they need to compromise.

The real laugh I get out of this is though. If people's hearts bled so much for these boat people and their safety, they would let them stay in Australia instead of flying them off to a pen located on an island in the middle of the pacific. We get 150,000 immigrants a year and we are worried about 4,500 boat people? I have to give credit to Howard and the Libs for hoodwinking the public into thinking it's a major catastrophe and a great issue for polictical point scoring.

Either way, on shore, off shore we will still be paying for it.



Crocodile tears Albert!!

All the rubbish we saw during the lead up and they still could not sort it out!!

Abbotts as bad in saying he has a solution! Mr Abbott, you are not in power you ****wit!

Australian politics is broken, it needs a clean out!

We should be able to sack them all!!

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Posted - 30 Jun 2012 :  16:16:52  Show Profile Send rabbits a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by AlbertM

We get 150,000 immigrants a year and we are worried about 4,500 boat people? I have to give credit to Howard and the Libs for hoodwinking the public into thinking it's a major catastrophe and a great issue for polictical point scoring.



1 on 4 living in this country were born overseas, with half our population either born overseas or have a parent that was born overseas.
Little problems ( and numbers ) turn into big ones quite quickly.

I want to know why it's our problem, anyway?
We give Indonesia 2 billion a year in aide ( even though millions of Australians live on the street and can't afford food ) - tell them, stop the boats leaving or we stop the cash.
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Posted - 30 Jun 2012 :  18:48:43  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by bigem


Australian politics is broken, it needs a clean out!

We should be able to sack them all!!

That's the thing. We can sack them all. Labor and Liberal/Nationals are not the only ones that run for seats in parliament. Not that the public will ever catch on.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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Posted - 30 Jun 2012 :  18:56:49  Show Profile Send the undertaker a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
You are correct, Albert. You could vote the greens in and sit back and watch Australia go bankrupt as all the mines are shut down.
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Posted - 30 Jun 2012 :  22:39:10  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
As I said, they never catch on. No one ever thinks beyond party politics.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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rabbits
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Posted - 01 Jul 2012 :  07:34:10  Show Profile Send rabbits a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Happy Carbon Tax day, everyone...brrrrr....doesn't it feel cooler already????
Or is that just the wind swirling around in my wallet where money once was.....?
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Posted - 01 Jul 2012 :  07:44:51  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
More illegals arrive by plane.

What ar you going to do shut the airpors down as well.


I've been saying this for years.

Indonesia needs to fix it's corruption and it's border security and if they don't, we should shut the aid down

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Posted - 01 Jul 2012 :  11:28:43  Show Profile Send 27GV a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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More illegals arrive by plane.

What ar you going to do shut the airpors down as well.


I've been saying this for years.

Indonesia needs to fix it's corruption and it's border security and if they don't, we should shut the aid down



Ha ha ha. Cut the aid? You want a bunch of terrorists instead of boat people? Our money funds non religious schools for the poor, if not for that they would go to terrorist schools like in Pakistan, because that's all there is. Rich ****s from Saudi Arabia fund those other madrasas.

Also, corruption is down a ****ing mind boggling degree in just 10 years. Compare it to Thailand or the Philippines and Indonesia smells like ****ing roses.

Australians are such massive ****ing whingers when it comes to Indonesia, bitching about Corby, bitching about refugees. Stuff the druggies, it's their fault, and just expand the humanitarian refugee places to like 25,000.

Solve our old goddamn problems, we ****ed up Afghanistan, so we should take the people who want to escape. No one wants to take responsibility in our current political state.

I say sack the parliament and deport them, plenty of room then.


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Posted - 01 Jul 2012 :  11:41:28  Show Profile Send rabbits a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Could be a bunch of terrorists now - how would we know, we don't check them out.....
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