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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 22 Aug 2014 :  17:55:56  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's interesting, to say the least, the different approaches to drug cheating both these clubs have taken.
Essendon telling ASADA to go jump, taking them to the High Court and Cronulla just rolling over.
Why?
Does Cronulla see no point in delaying (in their eyes) the inevitable?

With all of Gallen's outspokenness I can't believe he has just rolled over. Maybe it was all bluff and they actually knew exactly what Stephen Dank was doing.
At least ASADA has called for a lifetime ban on Dank.
I also wonder if players who were hoodwinked (if any) will try to take him to court?

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Simply put, Essendon are guilty but are relying on a technicality to postpone punishment while Cronulla are getting the pain over and done with early knowing that they will face a lesser punishment than they would otherwise it if they fought it.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 22 Aug 2014 :  18:33:24  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I know Cronulla aren't very financial so that could be part of it.

There's a few sports people from other sports who aren't very impressed with the backdated penalties which apparently haven't been okayed by the world body.
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Posted - 22 Aug 2014 :  20:01:39  Show Profile Send skaifeman a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
If they fought it the NRL could give them a ban anyway... 3 games or dispute it, get banned anyway, and risk 2 years...

Even if not guilty, that's a bloody good deal.


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Posted - 22 Aug 2014 :  20:19:46  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
3 weeks is a disgrace - I'm not surprised they jumped at that, particularly Gallen the grub.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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Posted - 23 Aug 2014 :  21:56:31  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The penalties handed out to these drug cheats is an absolute disgrace.

Back dated to November 2013, what a bloody joke.

These drug cheats regardless of who authorised the doping should be given 2 years like every other cheat.

Hopefully WADA will step in and give them what they deserve

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Despite being a light penalty, it probably is the best deal for the Sharks because at current, they haven't got anything to lose. As for the claims that they didn't know what was in Dank's snake oil, I don't believe that for a second.
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Posted - 19 Sep 2014 :  22:32:38  Show Profile Send bundy5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I'm not going to go into the nuts and bolts of the decision but good to see Essendon's case fall by the wayside. Hopefully it will mean that Hird won't coach them next year.

To respond to Bruce in the NRL thread: it is probably the single hardest loss I have had to deal with at Souths to lose Bully. Much worse than Sam Burgess as he didn't symbolise Souths as Bully did. I think a lot will underestimate just how much a loss he will be to Souths but I fully understand how engrossed he is with NZ and I think given that he will make the successful transition that others haven't.
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quote:
Originally posted by bundy5

I'm not going to go into the nuts and bolts of the decision but good to see Essendon's case fall by the wayside. Hopefully it will mean that Hird won't coach them next year.



Sounds good, his attitude stunk, i don't know what's true and what's not but Hird wasn't exactly helping his cause or others.
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http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/court-of-arbitration-for-sport-hands-down-ruling-on-wadas-appeal-into-essendon-doping-allegations/news-story/2c97065ed9edb5f912170232eb8ec86d

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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  10:50:19  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
and no appeal process, the only option is for individuals to take civil action if they want

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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  11:03:12  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Worksafe Victoria fined them for not providing a safe workplace during the Dank era.

So current players are banned 12 months effective immediately, yet the Cronulla players involved only got a backdated ban which meant they only lost 3 or 4 games.

I weirdly agree with Hird that it's a "miscarriage of justice".

Edited by - CP on 12 Jan 2016 11:36:04
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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  12:53:03  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I think the club including the hierarchy and Dank should feel the full force of the law and the drug mob.
I find it difficult to believe that that many players knowingly took illegal substances.
I know the idea is that you are ultimately responsible for what goes in your body but with so much **** available how do you really know?
The players would have been taking the word/advice of so called professionals in their field and are now paying very dearly for it.
I can see a number of lawyers in brand new, expensive cars coming out of this.
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