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CP
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Posted - 11 Jul 2019 :  10:59:16  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
There is no ****ing water in the rivers and dams Mr Joyce, and no decent rainfall to recharge the rivers and the dams. How is that better?

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Posted - 11 Jul 2019 :  11:26:25  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

Sir David Attenborough says itís Ďextraordinaryí powerful figures in Australia are climate sceptics



https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/sir-david-attenborough-says-its-extraordinary-powerful-figures-in-australia-are-climate-sceptics/news-story/2ed9c0e0737f3a715fa3908c1b2ec4b2



Barnaby certainly is not a climate change sceptic, according to his statement.

I also find Mr Attenborough's comments interesting coming from someone who has, in the past, done a lot to convince people to be sceptics.

it is said that reformed drunks are the most noisy advocates of not drinking grog and that reformed ex-smokers are the most noisy advocates of banning tobacco.

Perhaps it is possible that former climate change sceptics are now passionately critical of people who hold their former views.



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Posted - 11 Jul 2019 :  11:56:32  Show Profile Send EgoFG a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I have read some things on "Temperature standardisation" rather than using raw figures, I also question the accuracy over time - it is very hard to believe that we were as accurate in measuring 100 years ago as we are now.

There was an interesting thing on a guy who did raw measurements .. I think Byron Bay Lighthouse.

So much information and disinformation, so many agendas ... very hard to really see the truth
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Posted - 11 Jul 2019 :  14:45:38  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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So much information and disinformation, so many agendas ... very hard to really see the truth



Wouldn't it be great if the powers that be stopped all the argument and just decide to start cleaning up and reducing pollution.

Argue less, do more.


PS: I am of an age where the benefits of any changes will affect me little.

If anyone wants to see just how seriously the younger people take this issue, just look in the re-cyling bins at flats where young people rent. They get a lot of non-recycable bags and rubbish chucked in there.

Also think about the environmental cost of frequent mobile phone upgrades.
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Posted - 15 Jul 2019 :  15:53:41  Show Profile  Visit Bloopy's Homepage Send Bloopy a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
One of the best charts you'll see on the topic is this one from xkcd.

Then there was this summer hailstorm in Mexico. You have to think that if Mexico is getting unprecedentedly cold then the opposite is happening in the Arctic.
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Posted - 15 Jul 2019 :  17:37:53  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Bloody freezing today!
A 30+ knot SW wind off the Antarctic.
Minus temperatures this morning and again tonight.
It's already down to 5 degrees here!
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 15 Jul 2019 :  18:03:18  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

Bloody freezing today!
A 30+ knot SW wind off the Antarctic.
Minus temperatures this morning and again tonight.
It's already down to 5 degrees here!



Clearly you are not in Cairns

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Posted - 15 Jul 2019 :  19:28:00  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Ever heard of the Ice Age?

We have had Global warming for a long time.
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 15 Jul 2019 :  20:03:41  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

Ever heard of the Ice Age?

We have had Global warming for a long time.



True..remember the ozone layer thing ?

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Zac
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Posted - 15 Jul 2019 :  20:34:54  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I remember it and it's still here - the ozone layer, that is. Is that the thing you are talking about? Or was it only the hole in it that is the ozone layer "thing"? That was just a bunch of greenies who didn't know what they were talking about. How we laughed! Tell us more. It's always good to reminisce...
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 15 Jul 2019 :  20:44:48  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Zac

I remember it and it's still here - the ozone layer, that is. Is that the thing you are talking about? Or was it only the hole in it that is the ozone layer "thing"? That was just a bunch of greenies who didn't know what they were talking about. How we laughed! Tell us more. It's always good to reminisce...



Well apparently itís all good now.....phew....maybe the same will be with global warming or climate change or what ever itís called

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Posted - 19 Jul 2019 :  10:35:57  Show Profile Send djr18fan a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Head of Victoria University of Wellington's School of Geography, Environment and Earth Sciences responds to talkshow hosts complaint that climate change deniers don't get media coverage:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/07/james-renwick-climate-change-deniers-arguments-are-fact-free.html

And other media roast him hilariously: https://thespinoff.co.nz/media/18-07-2019/peter-williams-the-science-is-never-settled-on-the-moon-being-made-of-cheese/

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CP
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Posted - 19 Jul 2019 :  13:45:30  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
They're predicting 22s and 23s around here next week. We haven't had the usual winter storms either.
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Posted - 21 Jul 2019 :  08:18:10  Show Profile Send djr18fan a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Because some people seem to love video clips
https://youtu.be/dBs_K59K6GY

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Posted - 21 Jul 2019 :  21:45:35  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Interesting article on Kiribati. It is a few years since I was there but lots of photos of familiar places. When I was there, it was claimed that no land was over 2 metres above sea level and very little at that.

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Climate change could drown Kiribati, but the nation looks for Noah's Ark
By freelance correspondent Kurt Johnson
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South Tarawa's highest point is just 3 metres above sea level. With sea levels rising, many believe swathes of Kiribati will be inundated within 25 years.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-21/kiribati-hopefull-in-face-of-climate-change-rising-sea-levels/11228658
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