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troy01505
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Posted - 23 Sep 2017 :  15:44:20  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by SmartBeans

I know Richie is hungry for a drive in 2018 >> But there is something about him that comes across as he wouldn't be someone you would trust. IF Cameron Waters hadn't already signed a contract extension I would be suggesting to Cam to watch his back. I'd say Richie would be doing everything he can to get a drive next year. Wether that was taking someone else's drive or sponsors.





It's all fair game, has a lot more talent then most at such an early stage of his Supercars career and Atleast 16 drivers in Supercars main game are in my opinion are less worthy of a drive.

PRA better pull their finger out because if I was Roland, I'd look into dropping Lowndes down to an endurance driver if sponsors approved to have this bloke set up until a red bull drive came about, or at the very least fork out the cash and have him park his ass at Tekno just like they did for Gizzy until Lowndes is clauses out of his seat at the end of 2018.
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Posted - 23 Sep 2017 :  15:46:24  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

quote:
Originally posted by SmartBeans

I know Richie is hungry for a drive in 2018 >> But there is something about him that comes across as he wouldn't be someone you would trust. IF Cameron Waters hadn't already signed a contract extension I would be suggesting to Cam to watch his back. I'd say Richie would be doing everything he can to get a drive next year. Wether that was taking someone else's drive or sponsors.






It's all fair game, has a lot more talent then most at such an early stage of his Supercars career and Atleast 16 drivers in Supercars main game are in my opinion are less worthy of a drive.

PRA better pull their finger out because if I was Roland, I'd look into dropping Lowndes down to an endurance driver if sponsors approved to have this bloke set up until a red bull drive came about, or at the very least fork out the cash and have him park his ass at Tekno just like they did for Gizzy until Lowndes is clauses out of his seat at the end of 2018.



Richie is already under contract with PRA for 2018.

(correctly positioned post)

Edited by - oldtimer on 23 Sep 2017 17:08:45
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troy01505
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Posted - 23 Sep 2017 :  15:52:55  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

quote:
Originally posted by SmartBeans

I know Richie is hungry for a drive in 2018 >> But there is something about him that comes across as he wouldn't be someone you would trust. IF Cameron Waters hadn't already signed a contract extension I would be suggesting to Cam to watch his back. I'd say Richie would be doing everything he can to get a drive next year. Wether that was taking someone else's drive or sponsors.




Richie is already under contract with PRA for 2018.

It's all fair game, has a lot more talent then most at such an early stage of his Supercars career and Atleast 16 drivers in Supercars main game are in my opinion are less worthy of a drive.

PRA better pull their finger out because if I was Roland, I'd look into dropping Lowndes down to an endurance driver if sponsors approved to have this bloke set up until a red bull drive came about, or at the very least fork out the cash and have him park his ass at Tekno just like they did for Gizzy until Lowndes is clauses out of his seat at the end of 2018.





Contracts are easily broken with the right amount of cash, plenty have been broken before with compensation law suits failing to overrule or allow compensation payouts
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T8 would then have two drivers who ignore contracts then!

I doubt that will happen, though.

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troy01505
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Posted - 23 Sep 2017 :  15:57:35  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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T8 would then have two drivers who ignore contracts then!

I doubt that will happen, though.



So what money talks
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T8 would then have two drivers who ignore contracts then!

I doubt that will happen, though.



So what money talks



Then what is the point of a contract? They're learning from the NRL players, who have had too many knocks to the head to know how to speak a coherent sentence, by saying
"I don't want to play for them anymore."
"But you have a contract."
"Yeah but I don't want to."
"But you have a contract."
"What does that mean?"

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Posted - 24 Sep 2017 :  04:09:00  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by SmartBeans

I know Richie is hungry for a drive in 2018 >> But there is something about him that comes across as he wouldn't be someone you would trust. IF Cameron Waters hadn't already signed a contract extension I would be suggesting to Cam to watch his back. I'd say Richie would be doing everything he can to get a drive next year. Wether that was taking someone else's drive or sponsors.



Stanaway has been racing in Europe where that is how it works, you look out for yourself and yourself only. If you don't watch your back and get knifed, then that is your tough luck

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

because if I was Roland, I'd look into dropping Lowndes down to an endurance driver if sponsors approved to have this bloke set up



Popular belief has there being no third car without Lowndes
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troy01505
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Posted - 25 Sep 2017 :  10:13:31  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

quote:
Originally posted by SmartBeans

I know Richie is hungry for a drive in 2018 >> But there is something about him that comes across as he wouldn't be someone you would trust. IF Cameron Waters hadn't already signed a contract extension I would be suggesting to Cam to watch his back. I'd say Richie would be doing everything he can to get a drive next year. Wether that was taking someone else's drive or sponsors.



Stanaway has been racing in Europe where that is how it works, you look out for yourself and yourself only. If you don't watch your back and get knifed, then that is your tough luck

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

because if I was Roland, I'd look into dropping Lowndes down to an endurance driver if sponsors approved to have this bloke set up



Popular belief has there being no third car without Lowndes



If the funding is there I think it has a fair chance of survival, although most won't agree but the 3rd car could also be used as a loyalty drive for Jdub to bring in the next gun to Redbull. Most also believe the car is not treated as equal as the 2 red bull cars but Lowndes is just getting on and not adapting to the changes as well as the younger blokes. I would love to see a full 4 car assault from triple 8 similar to PRA last season with 2 proven championship contenders and 2 fast young blokes in their 1st few years.
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Kieron302
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Posted - 26 Sep 2017 :  14:06:13  Show Profile Send Kieron302 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Contracts are easily broken with the right amount of cash, plenty have been broken before with compensation law suits failing to overrule or allow compensation payouts



This is what Edwards said -

“We have got an agreement with Richie to do co-driving for us next year,” Edwards told Speedcafe.com.

“There is no out clause.”


Even though contracts can be bought, seems Edwards is intent on keeping him given the above statement.
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Wizz23
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Posted - 28 Sep 2017 :  15:21:28  Show Profile Send Wizz23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

quote:
Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

quote:
Originally posted by SmartBeans

I know Richie is hungry for a drive in 2018 >> But there is something about him that comes across as he wouldn't be someone you would trust. IF Cameron Waters hadn't already signed a contract extension I would be suggesting to Cam to watch his back. I'd say Richie would be doing everything he can to get a drive next year. Wether that was taking someone else's drive or sponsors.



Stanaway has been racing in Europe where that is how it works, you look out for yourself and yourself only. If you don't watch your back and get knifed, then that is your tough luck

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

because if I was Roland, I'd look into dropping Lowndes down to an endurance driver if sponsors approved to have this bloke set up



Popular belief has there being no third car without Lowndes



If the funding is there I think it has a fair chance of survival, although most won't agree but the 3rd car could also be used as a loyalty drive for Jdub to bring in the next gun to Redbull. Most also believe the car is not treated as equal as the 2 red bull cars but Lowndes is just getting on and not adapting to the changes as well as the younger blokes. I would love to see a full 4 car assault from triple 8 similar to PRA last season with 2 proven championship contenders and 2 fast young blokes in their 1st few years.

I agree, Stanaway would be a great coup for 888 They need an accession plan going forward. As i stated elsewhere buy a rec from LDM and slot him beside Lowndes. Money is not an issue. We need more front running guys in Holdens, there's plenty in the fords

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Posted - 28 Sep 2017 :  15:39:28  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Wizz23

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

quote:
Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

quote:
Originally posted by SmartBeans

I know Richie is hungry for a drive in 2018 >> But there is something about him that comes across as he wouldn't be someone you would trust. IF Cameron Waters hadn't already signed a contract extension I would be suggesting to Cam to watch his back. I'd say Richie would be doing everything he can to get a drive next year. Wether that was taking someone else's drive or sponsors.



Stanaway has been racing in Europe where that is how it works, you look out for yourself and yourself only. If you don't watch your back and get knifed, then that is your tough luck

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

because if I was Roland, I'd look into dropping Lowndes down to an endurance driver if sponsors approved to have this bloke set up



Popular belief has there being no third car without Lowndes



If the funding is there I think it has a fair chance of survival, although most won't agree but the 3rd car could also be used as a loyalty drive for Jdub to bring in the next gun to Redbull. Most also believe the car is not treated as equal as the 2 red bull cars but Lowndes is just getting on and not adapting to the changes as well as the younger blokes. I would love to see a full 4 car assault from triple 8 similar to PRA last season with 2 proven championship contenders and 2 fast young blokes in their 1st few years.

I agree, Stanaway would be a great coup for 888 They need an accession plan going forward. As i stated elsewhere buy a rec from LDM and slot him beside Lowndes. Money is not an issue. We need more front running guys in Holdens, there's plenty in the fords



There's only 6 Fords in the series!
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Posted - 28 Sep 2017 :  16:26:24  Show Profile Send Kieron302 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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I agree, Stanaway would be a great coup for 888 They need an accession plan going forward. As i stated elsewhere buy a rec from LDM and slot him beside Lowndes. Money is not an issue. We need more front running guys in Holdens, there's plenty in the fords



Where would the money come from Wizz?

Of the "Big 3", PRA are really the only front running team who have gambled on bringing in new young talent. T8's business model in the past appears to be based on taking existing proven SC drivers, including their co-drivers and I think that's affected what Holden have on the front line.

In my view, PRA should ensure he remains in the team (and i'm sure TE is doing this), the last place PRA would want Stanaway to end up is in T8, let T8 take their own gambles on introducing new talent, I think they are no starting to do this too.

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Richie will be fine for 2018.

Shone at Sandown last year but didn't appear to do much at Bathurst although his lead driver did qualify the car 12th. has much more experience under his belt this year though including racing at SMP on the tyre the main game will race on Bathurst.
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Posted - 28 Sep 2017 :  18:02:03  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Kieron302

[...
Of the "Big 3", PRA are really the only front running team who have gambled on bringing in new young talent.

T8's business model in the past appears to be based on taking existing proven SC drivers, including their co-drivers and I think that's affected what Holden have on the front line.

In my view, PRA should ensure he remains in the team (and i'm sure TE is doing this), the last place PRA would want Stanaway to end up is in T8, let T8 take their own gambles on introducing new talent, I think they are no starting to do this too.




Jamie Whincup was not a "existing proven SC drivers", nor have most of their co-drivers been. Stanaway is good, but not demonstrably better than any of 888's six current drivers.

but, to repeat, Stanaway is under contract to PRA and is not available to 888.
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Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

quote:
Originally posted by Wizz23

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

quote:
Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

quote:
Originally posted by SmartBeans

I know Richie is hungry for a drive in 2018 >> But there is something about him that comes across as he wouldn't be someone you would trust. IF Cameron Waters hadn't already signed a contract extension I would be suggesting to Cam to watch his back. I'd say Richie would be doing everything he can to get a drive next year. Wether that was taking someone else's drive or sponsors.



Stanaway has been racing in Europe where that is how it works, you look out for yourself and yourself only. If you don't watch your back and get knifed, then that is your tough luck

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

because if I was Roland, I'd look into dropping Lowndes down to an endurance driver if sponsors approved to have this bloke set up



Popular belief has there being no third car without Lowndes



If the funding is there I think it has a fair chance of survival, although most won't agree but the 3rd car could also be used as a loyalty drive for Jdub to bring in the next gun to Redbull. Most also believe the car is not treated as equal as the 2 red bull cars but Lowndes is just getting on and not adapting to the changes as well as the younger blokes. I would love to see a full 4 car assault from triple 8 similar to PRA last season with 2 proven championship contenders and 2 fast young blokes in their 1st few years.

I agree, Stanaway would be a great coup for 888 They need an accession plan going forward. As i stated elsewhere buy a rec from LDM and slot him beside Lowndes. Money is not an issue. We need more front running guys in Holdens, there's plenty in the fords



There's only 6 Fords in the series!

5 out of 6 are front runners compared to maybe 3 out of 4 Holden front runners. Quality over quantity methinks
Keiron 888 are financially sound and Red Bull has a few dollars too

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Edited by - Wizz23 on 28 Sep 2017 20:16:38
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