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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 23 Dec 2018 :  12:58:38  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Trump's thought on a government shutdown...

Oops

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-criticize-obama-shutdown/
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Originally posted by Zac

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...then they said it was build by Obama...I didn't realise the massive walls he built too

Me neither. What walls did he build (or have built)?



A fence along part of the border was approved in 2006 during the Bush administration. then Senator Obams did vote for it.

Do we have any advances on Senator Obama voting for a fence?
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Posted - 05 Jan 2019 :  16:10:01  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The wall is a "national emergency".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-05/trump-and-pelosi-square-off-on-border-wall-funding/10686602
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Posted - 05 Jan 2019 :  16:54:53  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Funny how politicians who don't keep election promises are vilified.

Yet Trump, a non-politician, gets lambasted for trying to keep an election promise.
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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 05 Jan 2019 :  16:58:01  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Trump is the POTUS, therefore he is a politician, even thought he's not a politician's arse!
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 05 Jan 2019 :  17:07:03  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by oldtimer

Funny how politicians who don't keep election promises are vilified.

Yet Trump, a non-politician, gets lambasted for trying to keep an election promise.



Lol...very good,point....hadn't thought of it that way

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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 05 Jan 2019 :  17:26:31  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
His promise was that Mexico would pay for the wall, not the USA, so it's already gone down the drain.
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Posted - 05 Jan 2019 :  17:39:11  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Trump is the POTUS, therefore he is a politician, even thought he's not a politician's arse!



I meant that he did not have a political history. Prior to his election campaign for POTUS, he was not really a politician. Clearly the American people, or more than 70% of them, did not vote for his experienced, but thoroughly shady, politician opponent. They are also sick of politicians sending young Americans to die in foreign countries civil wars and picking up the bill for armies stationed in foreign countries, such as Germany.

People in Australia too, are sick of the self-serving machinations of career politicians. I wonder how many Australians would vote if it wasn't compulsory.

Actually the UK has the same problem as the USA, as seen in the Brexit vote, with the non-voters whinging about the outcome, just as the non-voters whinge about Trump.

If the people can't be bothered to get off their collective asses and vote, they deserve whatever they get.

In the USA, it happens to be Trump.

Actually, I wonder if the Democrats chose Hilary as they wanted to lose. It gives them a chance to blame Trump for all the stuff ups during the Obama era and they are very actively doing so.
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Posted - 05 Jan 2019 :  18:16:57  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by oldtimer

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Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

Trump is the POTUS, therefore he is a politician, even thought he's not a politician's arse!



I meant that he did not have a political history. Prior to his election campaign for POTUS, he was not really a politician. Clearly the American people, or more than 70% of them, did not vote for his experienced, but thoroughly shady, politician opponent. They are also sick of politicians sending young Americans to die in foreign countries civil wars and picking up the bill for armies stationed in foreign countries, such as Germany.

People in Australia too, are sick of the self-serving machinations of career politicians. I wonder how many Australians would vote if it wasn't compulsory.

Actually the UK has the same problem as the USA, as seen in the Brexit vote, with the non-voters whinging about the outcome, just as the non-voters whinge about Trump.

If the people can't be bothered to get off their collective asses and vote, they deserve whatever they get.

In the USA, it happens to be Trump.

Actually, I wonder if the Democrats chose Hilary as they wanted to lose. It gives them a chance to blame Trump for all the stuff ups during the Obama era and they are very actively doing so.



Yeah...it's worked out just great...he drained the swamp and hired the best(non-political) people...!Some will even get parole! Hey,who do you think will get locked up first shady "crooked Hillary" or Non-politician Donny....I think Donny's gunna win this one

That's great, it starts with an earthquake
Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes
And Lenny Bruce is not afraid!
"Remember that in the end nobody wins, unless everybody wins!" Springsteen BTR.



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Trickyonne
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Posted - 05 Jan 2019 :  19:21:13  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I'm surprised that there isn't a wall already.....can people walk over the border whenever they want ?

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REM
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Posted - 05 Jan 2019 :  20:59:14  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Some hope for the US arises...https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/what-s-in-store-for-trump-and-america-when-pelosi-takes-charge-20190103-p50pgj.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1546637220

That's great, it starts with an earthquake
Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes
And Lenny Bruce is not afraid!
"Remember that in the end nobody wins, unless everybody wins!" Springsteen BTR.


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Trickyonne
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Posted - 15 Feb 2019 :  13:21:11  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Well ole mate donny has done it !
Deal done, wall getting built

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Wrighty05
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Posted - 15 Feb 2019 :  14:05:20  Show Profile  Click to see Wrighty05's MSN Messenger address Send Wrighty05 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Trickyonne

Well ole mate donny has done it !
Deal done, wall getting built



By declaring a national emergency?
Thatís not a deal

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The Peter Brock trophy is now where it belongs.
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Posted - 15 Feb 2019 :  14:11:24  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Not really, T1. No deal yet, apart from Donald saying he will declare a national emergency to get the funding to get it built, and there will be problems with doing that. (It sounds like he's given up on getting Mexico to pay for it.)

Meanwhile, nothing happening with the wall. Nothing has changed there since Donald became President - apart from some repairing and replacing of about 60kms of existing wall, and some "vegetation clearing" along an 18-20km stretch where the new wall is supposed to go. The USA - Mexico border is over 3,140kms long, and there is already 930kms of high security fencing along strategic parts of it. So, there's over 2,200kms to go - or 3,145kms to go if it's to be a much higher, hardened concrete wall.

So, no deal done yet and nothing happening about building it yet. His "higher, much higher" wall of "hardened concrete" (his words), if it gets built, won't be much higher, will be extremely unlikely to all be of hardened concrete, and he hasn't got anywhere with getting Mexico to pay for it. It sounds like you believe what Donald says.

As Donald himself would say: "Fake news". Here's some news closer to the reality:

https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch/trump-says-the-wall-is-already-being-built-here-s-a-reality-check-1441702979840

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/14/politics/donald-trump-wall-funding-bill/index.html

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Trickyonne
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Posted - 15 Feb 2019 :  14:59:28  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Ye of little faith

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