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journeyman racer
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Posted - 19 Sep 2018 :  07:28:43  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How come Japan has a decent domestic Open wheel series? It's pretty impressive of their motorsport culture that they could imo.

They don't have a conventional domestic touring car class, but I think GT (Super GT) is in effect in place of that?


What is it about them?

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Posted - 19 Sep 2018 :  16:06:04  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Aus does too with Formula Ford...

CAMS just chooses to not do their job and promote it...

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Posted - 19 Sep 2018 :  19:13:47  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

How come Japan has a decent domestic Open wheel series? It's pretty impressive of their motorsport culture that they could imo.

They don't have a conventional domestic touring car class, but I think GT (Super GT) is in effect in place of that?


What is it about them?




Is surprising...they should all be working for Suzuki like their fathers I would have thought

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Posted - 19 Sep 2018 :  22:18:01  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Hmm, definitely no stereotyping there...

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Aus does too with Formula Ford...

CAMS just chooses to not do their job and promote it...


Nah man, you can't compare fford with Super Formula? fford is an open wheel class, but it doesn't count because it's entry level/amateur. Super Formula is a small size F1 series. It can be used as a stepping stone, but it's its own thing.


What is it about their motorsport culture that that occurs, and it doesn't anywhere else?

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Originally posted by journeyman racer

Hmm, definitely no stereotyping there...



Cleary a reaction to your Doohan comment. Not what you're thinking.


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Posted - 20 Sep 2018 :  11:58:58  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

How come Japan has a decent domestic Open wheel series? It's pretty impressive of their motorsport culture that they could imo.

They don't have a conventional domestic touring car class, but I think GT (Super GT) is in effect in place of that?


What is it about them?




If one was to check population numbers, Japan would have a few more people than Australia and it therefore follows more people interested in competing in motorsport.

Japanese companies are also, quite possibly, the major sponsors in may international motorsport classes.

I remember a Japanese racer visiting Australia year after year, (probably) in the 1950s.
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I just think the amount of money the car makers, tyre manufacturers and electronic companies are willing to pour in is what makes their scene so healthy, and has done for 30+ years

While there is less money in Australia, we still should have the ability to have a much higher level of investment than we have currently, but the powers that be are too interested in control parts, control tyres, one make racing etc etc which chokes investment from anyone wanting to learn something.

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They don't have a conventional domestic touring car class, but I think GT (Super GT) is in effect in place of that?



Their GT series, now Super GT as you say, was effectively formed out of the end of Group A. In 1994 the Japanese Touring Car Championship switched from Group A regs to Class 2/Super Touring regs, so the likes of the GTRs, Supra's etc... moved into the newly-formed GT series (with more freedoms obviously)

The JTCC died after 1998, but the GT series went from strength to strength
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Posted - 20 Sep 2018 :  20:01:39  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I've looked that up and it's true. I never picked up on that development. I've also looked up that their sportscar championship ended in 1992. So I suppose GT filled the void of two classes?

Something else I noticed having looked up the schedule of both GT/Formula series is that there are no date clashes. Two major motorsport series in one country, and no date clashes? Compare that to the unflushed toilet that is motorsport in this country?

I think Fbf has made the point about the money manufacturers are willing to invest in the series to make it work. Although it also has delved into parity a little bit.

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They certainly do have a good domestic motorsport scene. Considering Super Formula is one of the closest categories to F1 in terms of cars, it's somewhat surprising we don't have more Japanese drivers around F1. But then it does seem to bring in some good international drivers like Andre Lotterer for instance. And I believe Pierre Gasly did a season there after winning GP2 before he got to F1.



























































































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