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Trickyonne
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Posted - 04 Apr 2019 :  18:45:30  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
https://youtu.be/_Z_RAbOJcu0

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Posted - 04 Apr 2019 :  19:40:46  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
interesting to listen... won't make any difference as we are the majority who are irrelevant...

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Posted - 04 Apr 2019 :  19:45:34  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
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interesting to listen... won't make any difference as we are the majority who are irrelevant...



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Posted - 05 Apr 2019 :  07:26:13  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
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interesting to listen... won't make any difference as we are the majority who are irrelevant...



Maybe once we become the minority the pollies will pay some attention?
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Sonic

interesting to listen... won't make any difference as we are the majority who are irrelevant...



Maybe once we become the minority the pollies will pay some attention?



the majority are already the minority!! the minority groups rule.

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What majority has become the minority, and what minority groups rule? Islamophobes are a minority but they don't rule, although in the US under Trump they're getting some traction. There are Islamophobes in other countries too of course, including Australia, but people such as Brigitte Gabriel and Lauren Southern don't rule anything apart from whatever influence they have in right-wing groups and on right-wing websites. Brigitte Gabriel is an example of someone quoting "interesting facts" that get disproven regularly by those who can be bothered.

Anyone can wander round the internet and find interesting facts about anything or anyone, and here's a couple of examples about Brigitte Gabriel.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/islamophobia-without-borders-case-brigitte-gabriel

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/is-brigitte-gabriel-really-a-reliable-source-regarding-islam/article_fe5d1eec-99ab-11e8-96a0-d35ca68d8df6.html

https://www.adl.org/blog/brigitte-gabriel-continues-years-long-campaign-of-islamophobia

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/03/21/anti-muslim-figure-brigitte-gabriel-embark-nationwide-tour-support-new-book

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People like Brigitte Gabriel and Rita Panahi would have a greater understanding of the negative aspects of Islam over a white woman. Two of those articles do not even have names attributed to them.

triggered snowflake xox

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Zac
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Posted - 05 Apr 2019 :  12:28:14  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
No names attributed to them? That seems unfair. Brigitte Gabriel has five.
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Posted - 05 Apr 2019 :  12:53:13  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
For balance:

https://youtu.be/ghVSZNYPXtw

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quote:
Originally posted by Trickyonne

https://youtu.be/_Z_RAbOJcu0


Great video!

This sort of commentary that ignores the chains of political correctness and rejects Islamophilia is very refreshing.


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Zac
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That sort of commentary is just Islamophobia. Plenty suffer from it, and I'm sure there are plenty of people who might suffer from Islamophilia. However, there are plenty who don't suffer from that "unwavering and uncritical admiration of Islam", who might have no admiration of any religion, and don't develop irrational hatred or fear of things like religions or anything else. They're probably rational enough to not hate or persecute anyone who is part of any organisation or religion because of the actions of a minority.
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 05 Apr 2019 :  15:19:08  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Trickyonne

https://youtu.be/_Z_RAbOJcu0


Great video!

This sort of commentary that ignores the chains of political correctness and rejects Islamophilia is very refreshing.





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Posted - 05 Apr 2019 :  16:36:27  Show Profile Send Madaz a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Zac

That sort of commentary is just Islamophobia. Plenty suffer from it, and I'm sure there are plenty of people who might suffer from Islamophilia. However, there are plenty who don't suffer from that "unwavering and uncritical admiration of Islam", who might have no admiration of any religion, and don't develop irrational hatred or fear of things like religions or anything else. They're probably rational enough to not hate or persecute anyone who is part of any organisation or religion because of the actions of a minority.


Did you even watch the video Zac?

She acknowledged it is a minority that gives Islam a bad name. The problem is that minority could be as many as 300 million people worldwide.

Her other main point was whenever the peaceful majority of rational people has not acted quickly and decisively in the past to subdue the radical minority, then very bad things happen.


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Posted - 05 Apr 2019 :  17:10:00  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
We'll be labeled islamophobes. But a phobia is an irrational fear.

I don't think wanting to avoid the fate of Sweden is irrational.

https://youtu.be/Tjpcp4gESsU

People need to read this. It's seriously beyond belief:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/tommy-robinson-grooming-gangs-britain-persecutes-journalist/


The result of political correctness:


https://youtu.be/O7P7ih1GuuQ

Edited by - karter on 05 Apr 2019 17:33:13
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They laughed at, and shrugged off the Nazi's in the 1930s to!

How did that go for everybody?

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Zac
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Posted - 07 Apr 2019 :  18:08:40  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I'm not surprised when I see people saying things like: "maybe when we're the minority...", and believing in some Islamic conspiracy, but it is disappointing. There is no conspiracy by the Islamic religion to take over anywhere. Who here believes any one religion is that organised? Islam is splintered all over the place, just like most religions. Yes, there are so-called Islamic extremists who come up with wacky ideas, and then there's ISIS and others like them. To quote bigem: "How did that go for everybody?". I've no idea what the point was, nor how the Nazis keep popping up in arguments about 75 years after they were crushed, but Islam after nearly 2,000 years is not only not trying and therefore not succeeding, but there's no comparison.

Seriously, I understand that the world has a problem with so-called "Islamic extremists", but most of the leaders of those extremists aren't even Islamic. Keep on believing the bile pushed by people like Lauren Southern and Brigitte Gabriel/Hanan Qahwaji/Nour Semaan/Brigitte Tudor and others like them if you must, but you'd do better to find more accurate and believable sources. A bit less paranoia wouldn't hurt either.

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