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Trickyonne
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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  12:59:57  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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So the best evidence of the existence of god is wishful thinking?

"I want god to exist, therefore he does."

Would that work for a 7 figure bank account do you think?



Lets try it this way Karter.....what is love to you? Where does it come from? How important is it to the human condition...? How do people live without it? What do you notice in people who lack love in their lives..? Be honest now...



Love is probably the product of chemicals, hormones, etc. in our blood stream and pheromones in the air.

Some people might live without it, I don't know. It's certainly not always a positive influence. Suicides and murders certainly do occur due to unrequited love.

What do I notice in people who lack love? Like who? How would I know?

Certainly some people turn to religion due to loneliness. Sometimes it might help, other times not.

But the fact that many people would really like there to be a god doesn't mean it exisis.



Sure, but the reality that the majority of the globes population throughout time have had some sort of spiritual aspiration and yearning may well point to something beyond....and that the fact that many people do want there to be a god, also does not mean that one doesn't exist.....

Love, grace, forgiveness, peace....they are well beyond the realms of science....and enhance the quality and meaning of peoples lives...are they attributes or constructs.....ultimately, only you can judge...



as always, well said remmy

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Zaccy, did you know that the bible spoke of a round earth thousands of years before man realised it ?

If the Bible spoke of it before man realised it, who wrote it in the Bible?

The Bible spoke of many things. Noah lived to 950, although many men lived longer. It took Noah 120 years to build the ark (although theologians now say it only took 75 years). He took two of each animal on the ark, although the Bible is vague on how many he actually took. Probably not two of estimated 8,000,000 species known to exist now, as that would mean 16,000,000 animals on board. (Evolution could explain the discrepancy.)

Not only Jesus was raised from the dead. Jesus raised three from the dead himself, Peter and Paul both raised one each from the dead, and there are other instances in both the Old and New Testaments of people being raised from the dead - then there were a few saints who rose from the dead by themselves after Jesus' resurrection.

It's a marvellous book which people have been interpreting in many ways ever since it was written.

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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  14:18:07  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Zaccy, did you know that the bible spoke of a round earth thousands of years before man realised it ?

If the Bible spoke of it before man realised it, who wrote it in the Bible?

The Bible spoke of many things. Noah lived to 950, although many men lived longer. It took Noah 120 years to build the ark (although theologians now say it only took 75 years). He took two of each animal on the ark, although the Bible is vague on how many he actually took. Probably not two of estimated 8,000,000 species known to exist now, as that would mean 16,000,000 animals on board. (Evolution could explain the discrepancy.)

Not only Jesus was raised from the dead. Jesus raised three from the dead himself, Peter and Paul both raised one each from the dead, and there are other instances in both the Old and New Testaments of people being raised from the dead - then there were a few saints who rose from the dead by themselves after Jesus' resurrection.

It's a marvellous book which people have been interpreting in many ways ever since it was written.





Wow spot on zaccy

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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  15:29:58  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by REM

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Originally posted by karter

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Originally posted by REM

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Originally posted by karter

So the best evidence of the existence of god is wishful thinking?

"I want god to exist, therefore he does."

Would that work for a 7 figure bank account do you think?



Lets try it this way Karter.....what is love to you? Where does it come from? How important is it to the human condition...? How do people live without it? What do you notice in people who lack love in their lives..? Be honest now...



Love is probably the product of chemicals, hormones, etc. in our blood stream and pheromones in the air.

Some people might live without it, I don't know. It's certainly not always a positive influence. Suicides and murders certainly do occur due to unrequited love.

What do I notice in people who lack love? Like who? How would I know?

Certainly some people turn to religion due to loneliness. Sometimes it might help, other times not.

But the fact that many people would really like there to be a god doesn't mean it exisis.



Sure, but the reality that the majority of the globes population throughout time have had some sort of spiritual aspiration and yearning may well point to something beyond....and that the fact that many people do want there to be a god, also does not mean that one doesn't exist.....





It's more evidence of evolution. We obviously evolved from herd animals, so some of us seek a leader.

Religion is simply human arrogance. "I'm too important to simply die." "My life MUST have some greater meaning!" And of course the ultimate arrogance: "I was created in God's image."

Who was? Adolf Hitler? Some 400kg blob?

And does god get hemorrhoids, bulging discs, worn out hips, stuffed knees, appendicitis, cataracts, macular degeneration, etc etc....?

These are all results of evolution. We've gone from walking on all fours to being upright, from largely herbivore to omnivore, from having a lifespan of maybe 40 years to 80ish, and haven't completely adapted yet. Because evolution is an ongoing process.
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  15:45:02  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Does God get sick ?...no.....because sickness has origins in sin

When you look at the chances of evolution happening the way it is sold to us, the odds of it occurring are if you put a dart board on one side of the universe and you shoot an arrow at it, it would need to hit the bulls eye. Ithe odds of it occurring are immeasurable ( probably why it hasnít happened again)

From the design of your hand to the extraordinary intricate DNA cells....my wife had a blood disorder recently and the specialist said the human spleen is so intricate, science knows only a fraction of its workings....a mate of mine who is a GP made a point ď the human body is so complex the only way it could have been created was by intelligent design at the very least ď

We live in a miracle that we call our human body ....then there is planet earth ....

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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  16:09:54  Show Profile Send djr18fan a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Hereís a brain bender

Prove me something...anything

Zaccy, did you know that the bible spoke of a round earth thousands of years before man realised it ?

https://youtu.be/iaXAWuclvik

A lot of proof by evolutionist in the last 20 years have been proven to be false......I find the evolution v creation debate interesting, and I admire the evolution ministers for their strong stance .... problem is, despite what zaccy is saying it is not proven at all, neither is the creation theory



That would be because the alien civilization that brought life to our planet saw from space that it was round. They documented this but not everyone read it.



OK...well that's an interesting explination


It's just as plausible as another mythical thing being the origin of life isn't it?
It must he true - there's no proof that it's not.

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Trickyonne
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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  16:14:20  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by djr18fan

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Originally posted by Trickyonne

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Originally posted by djr18fan

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Originally posted by Trickyonne

Hereís a brain bender

Prove me something...anything

Zaccy, did you know that the bible spoke of a round earth thousands of years before man realised it ?

https://youtu.be/iaXAWuclvik

A lot of proof by evolutionist in the last 20 years have been proven to be false......I find the evolution v creation debate interesting, and I admire the evolution ministers for their strong stance .... problem is, despite what zaccy is saying it is not proven at all, neither is the creation theory



That would be because the alien civilization that brought life to our planet saw from space that it was round. They documented this but not everyone read it.



OK...well that's an interesting explination


It's just as plausible as another mythical thing being the origin of life isn't it?
It must he true - there's no proof that it's not.



not arguing with you...if you believe that, then good on you

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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  17:06:16  Show Profile  Visit murph_fan51's Homepage  Send murph_fan51 a Yahoo! Message Send murph_fan51 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
My interesting fact:

The biggest mountain in the solar system at over 22,000m high is on Mars.
So big that you wouldnít realise you would be standing on top of it, because it disappears into the horizon.
Likewise you wouldnít be able to see the mountain in one view, even from a great distance.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympus_Mons

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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  18:02:08  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Does God get sick ?...no.....because sickness has origins in sin

When you look at the chances of evolution happening the way it is sold to us, the odds of it occurring are if you put a dart board on one side of the universe and you shoot an arrow at it, it would need to hit the bulls eye. Ithe odds of it occurring are immeasurable ( probably why it hasnít happened again)

From the design of your hand to the extraordinary intricate DNA cells....my wife had a blood disorder recently and the specialist said the human spleen is so intricate, science knows only a fraction of its workings....a mate of mine who is a GP made a point ď the human body is so complex the only way it could have been created was by intelligent design at the very least ď

We live in a miracle that we call our human body ....then there is planet earth ....



In an infinite universe over an infinite time, even the smallest of probabilities become certainties.

However, our design is far from intelligent. We have many serious "design" flaws. Flaws that even an amateur would have rectified before giving production approval.

As I said before, our spine isn't really well set up for walking upright. Nor our hips, knees, cardio-vascular system, etc.

But there are more serious problems. For instance, humans can choke to death on food. This is pretty rare in the animal kingdom.

It's because in evolutionary terms, being able to speak was a greater positive than the negative of being able to choke. But if an intelligent being were designing us, it would be easy to give greater separation between the respiratory and digestive systems.

Sorry, there's nothing particularly intelligent about our design.
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  18:10:20  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Ok well thatís one way to look at it.......

Changing the subject a little, I wonder how this will go ?

https://youtu.be/Sl6cwJK7fro

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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  21:32:33  Show Profile Send Jam3s a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Ok well thatís one way to look at it.......

Changing the subject a little, I wonder how this will go ?

https://youtu.be/Sl6cwJK7fro

no one read the comment section of that video if you wish to keep your sanity, some very low examples of humanity dwelling.

Edited by - Jam3s on 10 Jun 2019 21:33:07
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  21:35:32  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Ok well thatís one way to look at it.......

Changing the subject a little, I wonder how this will go ?

https://youtu.be/Sl6cwJK7fro

no one read the comment section of that video if you wish to keep your sanity, some very low examples of humanity dwelling.



Raises some question tho....should heterosexual relationships be celebrated too ?

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Ok well thatís one way to look at it.......

Changing the subject a little, I wonder how this will go ?

https://youtu.be/Sl6cwJK7fro

no one read the comment section of that video if you wish to keep your sanity, some very low examples of humanity dwelling.



Raises some question tho....should heterosexual relationships be celebrated too ?

of course they should, and they are... You don't need a parade to celebrate it but gay pride parades which used to be for fighting genuine oppression are now moreso just fun events that people let loose and enjoy themselves. Nothing wrong with a straight parade, but if people wish to do one out of spite then it's not really celebrating anything. The comment section of that video was basically just endless gay bashing and calling homosexuals paedophiles, so it doesn't seem like tye right message is being portrayed.

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Trickyonne
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Posted - 10 Jun 2019 :  21:51:09  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Jam3s

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Originally posted by Trickyonne

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Originally posted by Jam3s

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Originally posted by Trickyonne

Ok well thatís one way to look at it.......

Changing the subject a little, I wonder how this will go ?

https://youtu.be/Sl6cwJK7fro

no one read the comment section of that video if you wish to keep your sanity, some very low examples of humanity dwelling.



Raises some question tho....should heterosexual relationships be celebrated too ?

of course they should, and they are... You don't need a parade to celebrate it but gay pride parades which used to be for fighting genuine oppression are now moreso just fun events that people let loose and enjoy themselves. Nothing wrong with a straight parade, but if people wish to do one out of spite then it's not really celebrating anything. The comment section of that video was basically just endless gay bashing and calling homosexuals paedophiles, so it doesn't seem like tye right message is being portrayed.



That is terrible....youíre not about inclusion at all....why canít they have a parade to celebrate it ?.......proves once more the left hate white hetrosexual males ...

Mate is ok to be white and straight......donít believe the BS

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/picard-facepalm.jpg

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