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oldtimer
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As I understand it the Supercars TV deal with CBS 10 expires soon,

There is only about 10 weeks to publicity for the final event.

Will CBS be interested in paying for a TV deal similar to that entered into by a company that went broke (channel 10)? The Murdochs don't have skin in both companies this time.

10 are already dropping programs that do not attract commercial revenue. Will Supercars be next. CBS in USA seem to concentrate of people playing with balls and not much motorsports.

Foxtel also has financial troubles and thinks it can solve them by cutting the costs associated with sport broadcasting. One partner has refused to put any more money into Foxtel.

Foxtel have previously been offsetting their costs by selling some broadcast rights to FTA stations, that are increasingly saying "No thank you".

Many of their subscribers that watch Supercars pay because of ball sport viewing. Foxtel must be trying to ascertain just how much revenue can be attributed to Supercars specific customers.

Currently, at least two Supercar Teams are trying very hard to juggle income vs expenditure and may downsize or cease to run in Supercars.

Without the Foxtel/10 cash, other teams may be evaluating their income and expenditure projections.

A recent Board resignation may be related to future broadcast activities.


However one looks at it, there seems to be a lot of insecurity and uncertainty, just like 6 years ago and still no announcements.

Other categories may be a lot cheaper for broadcasters and most fans are screen fans, not feet on the ground fans,paying to get through the gate at every event.


Here is the relevant part of the TV anti-siphoning list with just Bathurst and no other Supercar event. Even the Supercars races at F1 AGP are not on the list.

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1 Motor sports

(1) Each race in the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile Formula One World Championship (Grand Prix) held in Australia.

(2) Each race in the Fédération Internationale de Motocyclisme Moto#8209;GP held in Australia.

(3) Each Bathurst 1000 race in the V8 Supercars Championship Series.


https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2017C00987



This article from a few months back seems relevant.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/sports-world-on-high-alert-as-foxtel-fights-for-its-future-20190514-p51n4a.html
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Update 12 Oct 2019:

Here is some rather solid reasoning that 7 network boss, James Warburton and the major owner, Stokes, may be working to a sale or merger with the Murdoch enterprises, which includes a big hunk of Foxtel.

James has experience working for Stokes. Supercars and Murdochs and some corporate raiders.

All that experience could point to a 7/Foxtel tender for Supercar TV broadcast rights, but it could make better financial sense to simply buy out Archer Capital or whoever has the bulk of shares now.

quote:
Seven West Media’s new chief executive James Warburton has been flexing his muscles since he started in the job in August. He has axed Seven’s premier current affairs offering, Sunday Night, led by Melissa Doyle, and asked Bauer Media to buy its Pacific Magazines portfolio, including New Idea.

Most recently two stalwart directors have walked, former Victorian premier Jeff Kennett and the long serving Peter Gammell, as the Warburton broom continues on its path. It’s all part of a major restructure that could dress the company up for sale – some say to Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.


https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/finance-news/2019/10/11/seven-prettying-up-for-a-sale/

Edited by - oldtimer on 14 Oct 2019 12:48:42

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Posted - 13 Oct 2019 :  00:00:32  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The current deal expires at the end of next year.
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quote:
Originally posted by CP

The current deal expires at the end of next year.



Yep, but Supercars started negotiation talk in 2018.

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New media rights talks to start this year
VIRGIN AUSTRALIA SUPERCARS CHAMPIONSHIP
| 14/03/2018 By Stefan Bartholomaeus

New Supercars CEO Sean Seamer expects discussions about the category’s next media rights agreement to start this year, but insists there’s no rush to finalise a deal.

Supercars’ current six-year deal, signed under the reign of James Warburton in 2014, runs until the end of 2020.




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SUPERCARS LOOKS TO NEXT TV DEAL - Auto Action
Jan 2, 2019

Supercars will begin serious talks this year about the next broadcast rights deal from 2021, as well as locking in a new TV agreement for the Bathurst 12 Hour from next year.

By MARK FOGARTY

Supercars’ international broadcast distribution rights are also up for grabs at the end of 2019.

Better free-to-air coverage on Network 10 is on the cards from this year as well.

With just two years to go on the existing six-year $240 million rights deal with Fox Sports and 10, renewal discussions will begin in earnest this year.

Supercars will also explore interest from other potential bidders as it looks to increase the rights fees and expand coverage across pay TV, FTA and digital platforms.

By 2020, when the next long-term Australasian rights deals will be locked in, the media landscape will be much-changed from when the current agreements were secured in 2014.

Internet streaming of events and extra content will be bigger – and more lucrative – sources from 2021.

Supercars chief executive Sean Seamer admitted that the next broadcast rights would become a focus during what will be a busy year ahead to secure new deals for the Bathurst 12 Hour – which Supercars owns and operates in partnership with the Bathurst Regional Council – and TV coverage outside Australia and New Zealand.

“We’ll certainly start to get ready for it,” Seamer told AUTO ACTION. “We have other things coming up, too. The Bathurst 12 Hour rights come up, our international distribution rights come up as well – so there will be more activity in the space [in 2019] than what there has been.”

He agreed that preliminary talks on the next Supercars broadcast rights deal would begin this year.

“Absolutely,” Seamer declared. “We have to start preparing for 2021.”
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Luckily still a fair amount of time to enjoy the Fox ad free coverage. Hopefully the next deal is identical but Fox saves some money and FTA takes a further hit with another decrease in live events or cough up a significantly higher dollar for the privilege.
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Originally posted by troy01505

Luckily still a fair amount of time to enjoy the Fox ad free coverage. Hopefully the next deal is identical but Fox saves some money and FTA takes a further hit with another decrease in live events or cough up a significantly higher dollar for the privilege.



For the privilege? The TV networks decide what a sport is worth, not the sport itself

Not much future for the series if they want to focus on less than 30% of the population being able to see all the races live

Edited by - Fast by Ferracci on 14 Oct 2019 17:15:19
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My feeling of the situation is:

Foxtel is struggling to stay profitable because they don't have enough subscribers. That situation will not be solved by removing one of the reasons people to subscribe. Yes they are cutting content, but they want to keep the popular stuff.

On the other hand, it's pretty clear Supercars wants more content and higher quality content on Free to Air, which is exactly what Foxtel doesn't want.

Personally I think the real problem is costs. It should cost less money to run a Supercars event, and then it wouldn't be a problem if the TV networks can't pay what they're currently paying. It should be possible to reduce costs without harming the race quality.

I mean seriously do we need several helicopters flying over Bathurst? Sure it's nice, but I wouldn't be surprised if that cost a quarter million bucks over the weekend.

Edited by - abhibeckert on 14 Oct 2019 17:58:12
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Having one bloke take all the poles and win 90% of the races this year isn't going to do anything for the negotiations either. For all the talk of a parity series, it still can't escape the almost forgone conclusions the race results have delivered this year, when one bloke is so good he makes all the others look second rate. People will only pay to watch that for a limited time before they turn off altogether.
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The ratings were outstanding yesterday - good signs for the next TV deal. In fact ratings have mostly been up on Foxtel year on year which is very impressive when some would have switched to Kayo (not counted in ratings).

I think the biggest cost saving would be Ten dropping their own broadcast team and using Foxtel broadcast. As for the FTA/Fox split, I'd like to see all Saturday races exclusive to Foxtel and all Sunday races simulcast on both Foxtel and FTA.

http://www.theracetorque.com/2019/10/ratings-watch-bathurst-beats-the-block/
https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2019/10/14/bathurst-1000-delivers-ratings-blockbuster-for-10-and-fox-sports?format=non-amp

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I'm really enjoying rewatching all the old Pukekohe races this weekend on Fox Sports 506, but it would be better if I could select them on demand. They've had back as far as 2001 I think.

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I'm really enjoying rewatching all the old Pukekohe races this weekend on Fox Sports 506, but it would be better if I could select them on demand. They've had back as far as 2001 I think.



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Perhaps the wrong thread...
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quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

quote:
Originally posted by CP

The current deal expires at the end of next year.



Yep, but Supercars started negotiation talk in 2018.

Not many businesses are in talks about any major plans with all the uncertainty around covid-19.

The talks are sure to be on hold until they have a better idea how strong the economy will be in 2022.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mechz

I'm really enjoying rewatching all the old Pukekohe races this weekend on Fox Sports 506, but it would be better if I could select them on demand. They've had back as far as 2001 I think.



????????????????????
Perhaps the wrong thread...



Couldn't really find another thread to talk about the replays and my comment around being able to stream races on demand is relevant to the next TV deal I reckon.

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Supercars aren't likely to be too generous when they have their (poorly promoted) SuperArchive at $60/year.

I didn't watch any of the old Pukekohe rounds but loved watching some old Symmons a few weeks ago. Looking forward to Perth in a few weeks.

As for the TV deal, I think they will get away with a 1-2 year extension at a slightly reduced rate to get them through the current pandemic and to the start of the next regulations.


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Who says they will get another TV deal! You have to have something to sell for someone to buy it, at the moment Supercars has one manufacturer and no concrete plan for the future! They are in the **** and no network will touch an organisation that has no guaranteed future!

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Who says they will get another TV deal! You have to have something to sell for someone to buy it, at the moment Supercars has one manufacturer and no concrete plan for the future! They are in the **** and no network will touch an organisation that has no guaranteed future!


So there we have it folks, you’ll have to visit the track to watch the one make Supercars championship if you’re lucky.

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quote:
Originally posted by bigem

Who says they will get another TV deal! You have to have something to sell for someone to buy it, at the moment Supercars has one manufacturer and no concrete plan for the future! They are in the **** and no network will touch an organisation that has no guaranteed future!


So there we have it folks, you’ll have to visit the track to watch the one make Supercars championship if you’re lucky.



just a tad of amusement when remembering all of the blue complaints about the 'commodore cup' and yet they are the last ones standing

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