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mikeamerica84
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Posted - 25 Oct 2019 :  03:39:36  Show Profile Send mikeamerica84 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This has to be a shocker and a blow for all dirt motorsport fans:


https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/10/21/valvoline-raceway-slated-for-demolition-due-to-new-train-line/

Valvoline Raceway slated for demolition due to new train line
By Daniel Herrero
Monday 21st October, 2019 - 6:53pm

Sydney’s Valvoline Raceway is set to be demolished as part of construction of the city’s Metro West rail project.

The venue formerly known as Parramatta Speedway has been earmarked for compulsory acquisition so that a stabling yard for the metro train line can be built on the site.

According to a release from the speedway, its management were only notified of the impending acquisition by way of a telephone call today, the same day on which New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian and the state’s Transport Minister Andrew Constance announced a start date for project construction and locations of seven stations.

Valvoline Raceway’s lease of the site does not expire until June 2026 and principals Barry and Felicity Waldron say they have been negotiating with Crown land in New South Wales on an extension for the past two years.

“This is devastating. Absolutely devastating,” said Barry Waldron.

“I can’t believe that in all our dealings with the Government through Crown Lands in our proposed long-term planning discussions nobody thought to give us even a hint that this could happen.

“How is it possible something as enormous as that could be overlooked?”

The release from the speedway further claims that the ‘devastating’ impact would be felt by the sport in Australia more broadly and even internationally.

A rally at the venue, which opened in 1977, has been organised for tomorrow night at 1800.

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Even on this side of the Pacific this is being noted:

http://tjslideways.com/2019/10/22/t-j-s-notebook-thoughts-on-valvoline-raceway-and-more/

T.J.’s Notebook: Thoughts on Valvoline Raceway and More
By T.J. Buffenbarger

(October 22, 2019) – The unfortunate news of Valvoline Raceway being part of a compulsory acquisition by the Australian government to make room for a new rail line into the central part of Sydney was met with backlash from the racing community. The track held a rally on Tuesday to garner support. Shortly before the rally New South Wales government officials indicated they want a new facility to be built in a different part of town. While having the support of government for a new track the racing community in New South Wales should rally to keep the track in its current location.

Multiple sources have indicated the land Valvoline Raceway sits on needs to be vacant by 2021. Even if dirt was moving today to begin construction on a facility it would likely not be completed in time for the 2021 racing season and be of the same quality that Valvoline Raceway is today.

Valvoline Raceway has a very large car count for the sprint car division for their Ultimate Sprintcar Championship programs often stretching well over 40 race teams. If there is a gap between the two facilities being operational this will likely impact the car and crowd counts negatively moving into the new facility.

Since covering the sport of sprint car racing since 1996 and being involved in it my entire life I’ve seen my share of facilities go by the wayside. When you have a track like Valvoline Raceway that goes away the racing scene in that particular location often times doesn’t recover even if a new facility is built.

While the government has promised a new home for Speedway it didn’t state to what extent it would be helping with construction and relocation. If you want a perfect example Super DIRT Week was promised a new home by the state of New York at Central New York Raceway Park with a state of the art ¾-mile race track to hold their largest event at. Instead what was supposed to be a short stay at Oswego Speedway is turning into a long term agreement for Oswego to host the event as CNYRP has yet to come to fruition.

Tuesday’s reaction with petitions and a rally were a great start to bringing attention Valvoline Raceway’s plight. In a week many of the television stations, newspapers, and other mainstream media outlets will move on to another story. It’s imperative that the Speedway community in Australia continue to stand up to keep their facility long after coverage subsides. This will be key keeping the facility where it is today or making sure a new, quality facility is built in a manner where the transition is as seamless as possible.

Valvoline Raceway has long been a bucket list destination I’ve wanted to get to sooner than later. Its importance to the racing community is evident even in the United States where several of the local competitors have come over to race in the United States during Australia’s wintertime along with Americans that make the pilgrimage to be a part of the program at Parramatta during our snowy season. Hopefully the Speedway community in Australia will get the positive outcome they deserve.




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Spent more time here then anywhere else I reckon up until I relocated.

That’s Aussie government for you, shut this down and open another junkies shooting gallery elsewhere
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Yes it's going the way of the Royale and Liverpool raceways.
Supposedly they are going to build a new track for them somewhere - apparently they own lots of 'suitable' land.
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quote:
Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

Yes it's going the way of the Royale and Liverpool raceways.
Supposedly they are going to build a new track for them somewhere - apparently they own lots of 'suitable' land.



Yeah they own ****loads of suitable land all over the state, they could build numerous motorsport facilities but they won’t and I can’t see them relocating this.
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The NSW government will offer the promoters a lease on government land (most likely at Eastern Creek), but how much the government will pay in compensation to build the new facility remains to be seen.
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Posted - 25 Oct 2019 :  12:04:59  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
If it wasn't for the Metro, would it have been taken over by urban sprawl at some point?

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few speedways in the same boat..archerfield for one

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quote:
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If it wasn't for the Metro, would it have been taken over by urban sprawl at some point?
No
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I understand the sentiment that the promoters want to keep it where it is, as its always been there and they have tipped a lot of money into it over the years, but building a brand new speedway, with new amenities and viewing areas can only be a good thing for the sport?
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quote:
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few speedways in the same boat..archerfield for one



Archerfield Speedway (the original) is now part of the Airport.

The replacement is in an Industrial Area, so it might be safer.

I never went to the newer one for Speedway events, but it was used for CAMS events where I was a Steward.

It is not just speedway, although we also lost Arthur Park, Redcliffe and Empire Speedway at the Ekka grounds. We have lost Strathpine, Lowood, Surfers Paradise, and effectively, Lakeside. We have also lost Drag strips at Surfers and Mackay.

At least, the NSW Government seems prepared to do the decent thing and fund a replacement.


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NSW Transport Minister Andrew Constance has publicly slapped down his department’s secretary, ordering him to “get on with it” after he raised concerns a Sydney motor track could take more than two years to build.

The comments come after Transport for NSW secretary Rodd Staples fielded questions in senate estimates on Monday about the plan to replace the Sydney Speedway track in Western Sydney, which will be seized by the state government in 2021 when the site will be turned into a train yard for a new Sydney Metro line.

Mr Staples said that, contrary to Mr Constance’s previous comments, the planned replacement track the NSW government will build could take more than two years to complete, and that the sport could be without a facility for the 2021 racing season.
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On Tuesday morning, Mr Constance told 2GB radio host Ray Hadley that Mr Staples had “just got to get on with this”.

“The bureaucracy is in no uncertain terms getting the message ‘build it’, because quite frankly there’s a good site at Eastern Creek.”
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“I don’t want to publicly denigrate a good secretary but he’s just got to get on with this … This is not a complex build. I mean, it is a clay track.

“Even the pits, I mean It’s just asphalt being laid on the ground in an open space so they can do the work to the cars.” Mr Constance said.

“Bloody oath, I mean, seriously … Rod is a great secretary, don’t get me wrong, but it was bureaucratic waffle.

“Two years to build a speedway? For goodness sake. They built Newcastle light rail, the construction, in a 12 month period. So I’m pretty confident we can put a clay track down, build some stands for the fans, put in a pit. I mean this is not complex work. And the best thing about this is there’s already dedicated motorsports at Eastern Creek so let’s go find the site and get on with it old mate. So that’s what I’ve said to him.

Referring to a comment he had made last week that the new speedway would be delivered in time for the 2021 racing season, Mr Constance said “my word is my word in this game, and I just get fed up with being put in these positions”.

“Rod knows better than this.”

“I never ever want to see the speedway moved again in this city. I mean we’ve seen speedways moved half a dozen times over the decades. Eastern Creek is the best site and the bureaucrats have been instructed to get on with it.” he said.



https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/just-build-it-transport-minister-andrew-constance-slaps-down-secretary-over-sydney-speedway/news-story/9d5290889f124f831a29bf2c8fce55bd

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Edited by - oldtimer on 29 Oct 2019 13:32:45
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You can tell that the governments announcement that they’ll build a replacement was thrown together overnight in response to the backlash..... one wonders if any of the decision makers even really knew a speedway was there.

If they were serious about building a replacement venue, they’d have had all the main details (location, costs, who will run it) locked in and done a proper announcement, instead of dropping the bomb and then Mr Constance coming out the next day proclaiming they were always going to replace the venue....

I’ll believe this new speedway when I see it, it’s somehow save Parramatta or nothing I fear, given the lack of information or real enthusiasm on the governments end, no doubt they hope the current hysteria drops away and they can quietly drop this new venue plan

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Watching the pathetic antics of the Parramatta MP, Geoff Lee, and the equally pathetic inaction of the Speaker in not pulling him up doesn't give me much hope.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=426250798294673&external_log_id=7e6edb96ff2844018782b4db7310f776&q=valvoline%20raceway
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Posted - 22 Nov 2019 :  10:48:24  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Going by their Facebook page, they were offered a bit of land near Sydney Dragway?
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Nothing offered, but the Transport Minister thinks that somewhere in the Eastern Creek vicinity is a likely place. The raceway owners have submitted a proposal, but have not received any commitment from the government. The only definite commitment from the government so far is that the current raceway is being compulsorily acquired for a stabling yard and operations centre for the metro railway.

Edited by - Zac on 22 Nov 2019 12:25:18
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quote:
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Going by their Facebook page, they were offered a bit of land near Sydney Dragway?



The problem with that bit of land is that it isn’t big enough, half the size was mentioned
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Posted - 22 Nov 2019 :  18:51:20  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
From what I heard to day a new speedway will be built by private business..

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