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BOWYANG
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Posted - 01 Jan 2020 :  21:17:56  Show Profile Send BOWYANG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
With the growth of ARG & it's owned or associated categories & a telecast deal with The 7 Network 2020 will be an interesting year of Racing events served up to the Motorsport Fans / Supporters .
The Mix of categories : TCR for those calling for closer to "Production", S5000 for the people looking for a resurgence of the V8 open wheeler days , TCM for the "Historic" supporters & TA2 V8 Muscle for Noise & HERO cars .
How this Pans out is going to be interesting .( Hope the money Lasts ).

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Posted - 02 Jan 2020 :  16:56:31  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
really just depends on how they play their cards... they have the potential to become, maybe not the no 1 category?, but certainly the no 1 show.

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I'm looking forward to watching their TV coverage. As a motorsport fan, I'll be watching alongside Supercars and all their support categories, F1, and all the other stuff I watch.



























































































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"This whole thing is just a media beat up and you V8 Supercar fans( another name for suckers, bogans, lowlifes etc ) have taken the bait hook line and sinker." - Champcarman
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Posted - 26 Jan 2020 :  13:23:42  Show Profile Send BOWYANG a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
ARG have now for better or worse decided to “Go it alone” with a National Trans Am series seperate to the TA2 Muscle Car series using the TA2 platform with agreements on place with the rights Holders in USA , will be interesting to see how this evolves , the entry list at SuperLoop will be Umm interesting.
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Posted - 26 Jan 2020 :  14:12:43  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by BOWYANG

ARG have now for better or worse decided to “Go it alone” with a National Trans Am series seperate to the TA2 Muscle Car series using the TA2 platform with agreements on place with the rights Holders in USA , will be interesting to see how this evolves , the entry list at SuperLoop will be Umm interesting.



There are claimed to be "over 50" or "over 40" TA2 cars in Australia, depending on which press releases one reads. I think it is good that they have multiple series to contest and apparently are able to tn in both and are also allowed to race locally.

I wonder if the proposed MARC2 one make series will link with ARG.

It would be interesting to know the cost of TA2 and MARC2 cars for comparison.
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Posted - 28 Jan 2020 :  23:41:03  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
It's taken CAMS this long to figure out how to counter the stranglehold superc***s has on Australian motorsport.

Their weakness is that they're up against a body that has a hold on the professional motorsport industry in Australia, and the secondary Bathurst 1000, which is recognised as the original one.

I'd have thought Trans Am of any sort would appear lame after S5000?

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BOWYANG
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Posted - 13 Feb 2020 :  20:13:23  Show Profile Send BOWYANG a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Round 1 of the ARG Backed Trans Am series at Adelaide Looks to have 19 entrants ( A bit lower than some may have Hoped but with the ARG - TA2 Thing going on in the lead up) , Some New Drivers and Teams ( I think GRM ) , Hopefully a good time is had by all. JR not sure the point your making with the Trans Am -S5000 statement , Apples & Oranges .
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Posted - 21 Feb 2020 :  07:14:31  Show Profile Send Harry S a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

It's taken CAMS this long to figure out how to counter the stranglehold superc***s has on Australian motorsport.

Their weakness is that they're up against a body that has a hold on the professional motorsport industry in Australia, and the secondary Bathurst 1000, which is recognised as the original one.

I'd have thought Trans Am of any sort would appear lame after S5000?

CAMS didn't "figure out" anything - simply a matter of ARG deciding to exist. Procar existed before and neither its rise or fall had anything to do with CAMS.

I think that we need to see more of S5000 before we decide if anything is "lame" in comparison - plenty of promise there but only 2 race meetings so far and mixed results / feelings.

When the going gets tough..............
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You're correct with the wording. CAMS have stumbled on a potential game changer with TCR.

What mixed results/feelings are there about S5000. When people crap on about the superficial aspects of racing to generate/maintain interest (Looks, noise & speed), S5000 has TA2 covered in 2 of the 3 criteria.

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BOWYANG
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What are you smoking JR ? Just the whoopy Weed Or the full Crack pipe ! Trans Am & S5000 are as previously stated Apples and Oranges in the Comparison Game , Tran Am put on a Good show at Adelaide and in the Paddock area where they were pitted was very Busy when they were on display , the Young drivers Seton , Hernes were Very busy with fan interaction .I would hope that that is repeated when S5000 has a
full field at a Marque event .

Edited by - BOWYANG on 24 Feb 2020 19:18:55
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I ******* said S5000 has TA2 covered in 2 of the 3 superficial aspects of racing, didn't I?

S5000 noise and speed over TA2. So for other than appearance, why would anyone give a **** about TA2?

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Posted - 09 Mar 2020 :  10:38:30  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

I ******* said S5000 has TA2 covered in 2 of the 3 superficial aspects of racing, didn't I?

S5000 noise and speed over TA2. So for other than appearance, why would anyone give a **** about TA2?



they have the right noise and look and put on a bloody good show.

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BOWYANG
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Posted - 12 Mar 2020 :  17:59:08  Show Profile Send BOWYANG a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Your right Sonic that’s Y your a Moderator, They Both have the Right Noise , Look & put on a good Show , will be fantastic to see them together on the Card at an ARG Round with TCR , TCM , the Fans won’t have time for a Pie & a Piss
& Now TA2 Trans Am has crossed the Ditch.

Edited by - BOWYANG on 27 Mar 2020 17:43:40
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Posted - 28 Mar 2020 :  00:11:53  Show Profile Send bludvl a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by BOWYANG

Your right Sonic that’s Y your a Moderator, They Both have the Right Noise , Look & put on a good Show , will be fantastic to see them together on the Card at an ARG Round with TCR , TCM , the Fans won’t have time for a Pie & a Piss
& Now TA2 Trans Am has crossed the Ditch.



It is the TA2 group from Australia that are involved in the NZ series, not the ARG Trans Am cars.

Supercars isn't a sport.

Its a category of motor racing.
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BOWYANG
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Posted - 28 Mar 2020 :  12:43:02  Show Profile Send BOWYANG a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Call it What You Like bludvl , But as reported some time ago ( I will stand corrected ) for better of worse ARG has the rights to Trans Am in Aus & NZ & currently the HOWE supplied TA2 is the Vehicle used ( and IMO it should stay that way ) , With “ Luck” Politics will not spoil things & the 2 series in Aus & whatever develops in NZ can be successful .
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Posted - 28 Mar 2020 :  13:36:13  Show Profile Send bludvl a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
How does ARG have the rights to Trans Am in New Zealand?

TA2, you have to use the Howe chassis, as imported by PBR.

Trans Am, the ARG owned entity, you can use any of the TA2 chassis.

Supercars isn't a sport.

Its a category of motor racing.
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