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HRTKLR
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Posted - 15 May 2019 :  15:44:10  Show Profile Send HRTKLR a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Jam3s

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Originally posted by journeyman racer

Verstappen beat Ricciardo in the same equipment?

What F1 series were you watching?

There were other quotes in here that got my attention. But I can't be bothered with all of them after reading that.

2nd half of 2018 Max was objectively the faster driver during their races, the avg lap time data supports that too.

Precisely James. Max is the faster driver. It hurts to say it but itís true.
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journeyman racer
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Posted - 15 May 2019 :  19:56:03  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
2nd half of the year, after it was known Ricciardo was going? Who gives a ****?

Once these guys get to a comparable level, they're going to have minor relative strengths that become a bigger deal. A purple patch over the other always happens. It's nothing to see a therapist about.

People were celebrating Verstappen's PP at Mexico and becoming the youngest PP setter for two weeks before it didn't happen.

Verstappen may have some flashy performances, and he can win a WC in the best car. But that's all he can do. Ricciardo is the only one of the two that has demonstrated he could win a WC in the 2nd best car.

edit: Also, in races they both finished (No excuses of mechanical failure or driver error, theirs or someone else's), Ricciardo outscored Verstappen 158-141. The other **** doesn't matter.

edit2: I'm glad you guys aren't team managers and have a say in Ricciardo's career.

What's going to happen when the next new guys who puts on a couple of flashy performances? "Oh, Max is too old now (@25yo). He better win a championship before <insert driver name> gets a drive at <insert dominant team>".

You got to get a grip.

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Edited by - journeyman racer on 16 May 2019 22:18:06
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Jam3s
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Posted - 17 May 2019 :  12:41:06  Show Profile Send Jam3s a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by journeyman racer

2nd half of the year, after it was known Ricciardo was going? Who gives a ****?

Once these guys get to a comparable level, they're going to have minor relative strengths that become a bigger deal. A purple patch over the other always happens. It's nothing to see a therapist about.

People were celebrating Verstappen's PP at Mexico and becoming the youngest PP setter for two weeks before it didn't happen.

Verstappen may have some flashy performances, and he can win a WC in the best car. But that's all he can do. Ricciardo is the only one of the two that has demonstrated he could win a WC in the 2nd best car.

edit: Also, in races they both finished (No excuses of mechanical failure or driver error, theirs or someone else's), Ricciardo outscored Verstappen 158-141. The other **** doesn't matter.

edit2: I'm glad you guys aren't team managers and have a say in Ricciardo's career.

What's going to happen when the next new guys who puts on a couple of flashy performances? "Oh, Max is too old now (@25yo). He better win a championship before <insert driver name> gets a drive at <insert dominant team>".

You got to get a grip.

Calm down kid, clearly your bias is such that it gets you into an emotional state when someone suggests (based on data mind you) something you don't want to hear.

Max's performances this season have also been stellar, he's matured greatly even compared to last season and has been rock solid in qualifying and in the races, the advantage Ric generally had over him which appears no longer. Ric has made a tragic career decision that will almost guarantee he will never win a championship, perhaps not even win another race and that is painful, but he's made his own bed.

Edited by - Jam3s on 17 May 2019 12:43:29
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Posted - 17 May 2019 :  15:37:11  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
The most disappointing thing is that Renault are being creamed by McLaren, using Renault engines.

Been impressed with Lando Norris. And McLaren have improved big time too. Seems all they needed was to get rid of the disruptive Spaniard.

Edited by - karter on 17 May 2019 15:40:44
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journeyman racer
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Posted - 17 May 2019 :  17:28:25  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Jam3s

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Originally posted by journeyman racer

2nd half of the year, after it was known Ricciardo was going? Who gives a ****?

Once these guys get to a comparable level, they're going to have minor relative strengths that become a bigger deal. A purple patch over the other always happens. It's nothing to see a therapist about.

People were celebrating Verstappen's PP at Mexico and becoming the youngest PP setter for two weeks before it didn't happen.

Verstappen may have some flashy performances, and he can win a WC in the best car. But that's all he can do. Ricciardo is the only one of the two that has demonstrated he could win a WC in the 2nd best car.

edit: Also, in races they both finished (No excuses of mechanical failure or driver error, theirs or someone else's), Ricciardo outscored Verstappen 158-141. The other **** doesn't matter.

edit2: I'm glad you guys aren't team managers and have a say in Ricciardo's career.

What's going to happen when the next new guys who puts on a couple of flashy performances? "Oh, Max is too old now (@25yo). He better win a championship before <insert driver name> gets a drive at <insert dominant team>".

You got to get a grip.

Calm down kid, clearly your bias is such that it gets you into an emotional state when someone suggests (based on data mind you) something you don't want to hear.

Max's performances this season have also been stellar, he's matured greatly even compared to last season and has been rock solid in qualifying and in the races, the advantage Ric generally had over him which appears no longer. Ric has made a tragic career decision that will almost guarantee he will never win a championship, perhaps not even win another race and that is painful, but he's made his own bed.


As I said in my second edit, I'm glad you're not a team manager and don't have a say in Ricciardo's career.

What data?

What advantage did Ricciardo have over Verstappen that you think no longer exists?

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tusker
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Posted - 19 May 2019 :  04:21:07  Show Profile  Visit tusker's Homepage Send tusker a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Is Max faster than Dan? Maybe, or even likely.

I am in the camp that firmly believes Ricciardo was never going to win a championship while teammates with Max at RB, whether they favoured Max more or Max was faster, or both. He had to go to another team for a shot at a WDC. I think that both Mercedes and Ferrari didn't take him because their senior drivers wouldn't have it. Let's not forget that Dan comprehensively beat 4-time WDC winner Vettel when they were teammates, in only in his first year with the top level RB team. Seb even said that the difference between Webber and Dan was that while Webber might have had an initial edge on some faster corners, Dan was just faster all round.

Everything looks like failure in the middle and Dan is going through the middle right now. I'm keeping the faith.
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