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karter
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Posted - 23 Oct 2018 :  06:45:34  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
In reality, Seb should have startrd from pole, and won the race. Failing to slow down for a red flag... WTF was he thinking? What was there to gain?

Just thinking about Seb's last couple of seasons, he' run into Lewis, Bottas, Dan, Max and Kimi. Oh and the wall. He just needs to run into himself to complete the top 6.

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skaifeman
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Posted - 10 Nov 2018 :  21:58:17  Show Profile Send skaifeman a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Ricciardo getting a 5grid penalty.
If I were him I'd beg the team to replace everything this weekend and give Abu Dhabi a proper crack.

In other news... Hamilton threatens to quit again... is this the 3rd/4th year in a row? Rosberg must be stoked he beat him to it.


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Posted - 11 Nov 2018 :  06:51:36  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Lewis said he'd retire if they extend the season to 25 races. It's going to 21 next year, so a fair way off.

25 races would be pretty hard on the smaller teams.
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skaifeman
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Posted - 11 Nov 2018 :  12:19:10  Show Profile Send skaifeman a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Even the smaller teams are billionaire's. I find it hard to relate them to an LDM of sorts.

What about this? https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/11/11/vettel-fined-e25000-after-destroying-scales/
I find it odd that they can call them in during a live session? I thought all of this happened during parc ferme after/in-between sessions? I can understand Seb's haste.
Both Sauber's in the 10 too, and will gain a spot with Dan dropping back. Good result - hopefully Kimi can pick this up next year.

In other news - Fernando to race the Indy 500 again, with McLaren.


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Posted - 11 Nov 2018 :  15:17:46  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by skaifeman

Even the smaller teams are billionaire's. I find it hard to relate them to an LDM of sorts.

What about this? https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/11/11/vettel-fined-e25000-after-destroying-scales/
I find it odd that they can call them in during a live session? I thought all of this happened during parc ferme after/in-between sessions? I can understand Seb's haste.
Both Sauber's in the 10 too, and will gain a spot with Dan dropping back. Good result - hopefully Kimi can pick this up next year.

In other news - Fernando to race the Indy 500 again, with McLaren.





When considering that quite a lot of F1 teams have had assets less than the money owed, it is hard to call them billionaires.
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Posted - 11 Nov 2018 :  19:14:28  Show Profile Send DJRford a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I find it funny Hamilton saying he'll leave if they have too many races. Poor bastard. Could you imagine having to work half the year, driving fast cars, and being paid many millions to do it? Just awful.

Ok I know that they do a lot more than just go to the races. There's media appearances, travel, training, testing and such but seriously, no matter what way you look at it these guys are living the dream.



























































































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Posted - 11 Nov 2018 :  20:57:41  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I recently saw a discussion between Nico Rosberg and Filipe Massa. They both said that the schedule when they raced took a huge commitment. They both said they didn't miss the workload.

In reality they get very little actual time off between races.

Of course it looks like a dream from outside the sport. Like playing almost any sport professionally. But like any of them, it eventually becomes a job. And Lewis in particular has interests outside of F1.

Edited by - karter on 11 Nov 2018 21:03:50
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Wrighty05
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Posted - 12 Nov 2018 :  07:58:26  Show Profile  Click to see Wrighty05's MSN Messenger address Send Wrighty05 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Yeah and itís the team members too, away from families for most of the year.

Good race this morning. Nearly a bit of biffo too!

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RIP LJ - loved and never forgotten.

"It was dry for the second go-around. Grice, nervous, worrying about his Bathurst jinx, ran 2:25.9. The amazing Brock, using every last centimetre of bitumen, yet keeping the car straight and balanced and at full noise, came back with a staggering 2:20.0 as if to say: "Match that". And people just shook their heads, bit their lips and wondered who would be second".

The Peter Brock trophy is now where it belongs.
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Posted - 12 Nov 2018 :  11:54:15  Show Profile Send skaifeman a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Was good to see Red Bull up there. I can understand Max's frustration - going by the highlights, a definite win taken away.
Shame Dan had to start so far back. Starting to question his move to Renault though... they're not doing much.

The circuit suits the use of DRS. All types of cars overtaking other types.


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Posted - 12 Nov 2018 :  17:04:34  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Realistically why did Max decide to fight Occon? Why not just let him go? Max needs to choose his battles a bit more wisely. Letting a backmarker on fresh tyres through would have been easy, wouldn't have held him up and would have cost him nothing. Fighting with him cost him the win.

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skaifeman
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Posted - 26 Nov 2018 :  09:54:18  Show Profile Send skaifeman a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by karter

Realistically why did Max decide to fight Occon? Why not just let him go? Max needs to choose his battles a bit more wisely. Letting a backmarker on fresh tyres through would have been easy, wouldn't have held him up and would have cost him nothing. Fighting with him cost him the win.


Looking back I agree. A wiser racer would've let him go. Even Lewis after the race told Max that he had more to lose.

Fast forward to Abu Dhabi and Dan's strategy was about the only exciting piece of the race (after the start anyway).
I was hoping they'd go a bit longer and put hyper's on as he wasn't losing too much to Lewis in that stint.
He was never meant to beat Max anyway. Looking Spa on, he didn't beat Max once. Conspiracy or not, the results show.

Very happy Kimi held his 3rd in the WDC over Bottas and Max. Shame it had to end the way it did.

General consensus seems to be that Fernando is only having a years break...


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Posted - 26 Jan 2019 :  20:20:24  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
http://www.v8central.com/snitz3403/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=41807&whichpage=4#890756

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But anyone with any sense could see that if Lewis had ****ed up as often as Vettel,
and if Vettel had driven the kind of season Lewis did, there would be a different WDC for 2018. Neither car was dominant.



Thank you for once and for all, demonstrating that you invent scenarios as a basis for your opinion of what actually happens.

If Vettel drove as well as Hamilton AND IF Hamilton ****** up as often as Vettel, then Vettel would've won the championship?

Well, maybe. But you're going to have to speculate how much Hamilton loses out with his invented errors?

Does he lose a few positions, does he lose a lot of positions, does he dnf? You wouldn't know for certain because you'd have to be making **** up. Get it?


Whereas with Vettel, we know for certain when and where he ****** up, and can roughly determine where he would've been had he not ****** up.

With that in mind. SUre, you can make up a possible 30, 40, 50pts, even 60 if you're stretching it. But you're not making up the 89 points needed to claim the title and solely put the responsibility of not winning it due to Vettel's errors.

Hamilton has the best car in the field. Therefore (excluding the presence of Bottas) he has a margin of error throughout the season. Vettel has the weaker car, so has to drive at an optimal level relative to Hamilton to be within a chance to knocking off the title.

Hamilton had the better car, but Vettel's errors exaggerated the performance between both MB and Ferrari.

Yet, people like you blindly think Vettel's errors cost him the title? You're going to tell other people in your everyday life as if it's fact, and create a myth.

Btw. Hamilton had a huge lead on Vettel in the 2010 championship after the Belgian GP. Only to choke it away.

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Posted - 30 Jan 2019 :  23:21:39  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Everyone who knows anything about F1 accepts that the Ferrari was faster than the Mercedes for most of 2017 and 2018.

Vettel just didn't drive well enough.

Get over it.
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Posted - 07 Feb 2019 :  21:11:04  Show Profile Send journeyman racer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
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Everyone who knows anything about F1 accepts that the Ferrari was faster than the Mercedes for most of 2017 and 2018.


That is BS. A long as we have the current hybrid turbos, with how tight rules are, the MB will always have the better car.

The Ferrari is closer than it was prior to the rule changes introduced for 17. But because of that, it allows people such yourself to fool your self into thinking the Ferrari is better.

11 pole position for Hamilton, 2 for Bottas (In a year his reputation was diminished. 5 pp for Vettel, 1 for Raikkonen (In a year his reputation recovered a bit), you think the Ferrari was the faster car?


For you, F1 is just a tv show with heroes and villains, when it's really more rational than that. Some people should just not be interested in motorsport, and you're one of them.

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karter
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Posted - 08 Feb 2019 :  06:39:22  Show Profile Send karter a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Yep, faster car, slower driver. Hamilton is the best qualifier of all time. He's repeatedly driven to pole position in cars that shouldn't have been on pole.

On the other hand, Vettel often failed to drive the car to it's potential. Or made mistakes.

It's the usual fanboy wail. "Lewis only wins because he has the best car"

Well Vettel had the best car for most of 2018, but Mercedes had the better driver.

Edited by - karter on 08 Feb 2019 06:42:43
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