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jamolad
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  08:02:28  Show Profile Send jamolad a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by REM

I reckon JB knows his stuff hey....that last adjustment has really given the ZB a significant edge....



Some of us, including JB, don't think JB offers an impartial point of view.

"My closeness and relationship with the Johnson family make it very difficult for me to be impartial so I feel it's best to remain silent."

- John Bowe, 20 October 2019


Edited by - jamolad on 11 Nov 2019 08:04:36
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Mechz
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  08:05:07  Show Profile Send Mechz a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

quote:
Originally posted by REM

I reckon JB knows his stuff hey....that last adjustment has really given the ZB a significant edge....



Well! There is just one more race before the Aero specs are scrapped on all cars!

Scotty only had to finish top 24 to be clear Championship winner for 2019. I don't think he was trying all that hard and just wanted to finish and get the points.



2 races, 1 round.

Let's go DJRTP, we want that Team Title to wrap up the year!

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Futura Coupe
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  08:09:50  Show Profile Send Futura Coupe a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Scotty was in traffic a lot too and Jamie was leading so that would effect times



Scotty did not have traffic in front of him at all times. Jamie (and SVG) would have to have dealt with lapped cars.
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jamolad
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  08:15:13  Show Profile Send jamolad a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Lapped cars would have been shown blue flags and generally are warned by their engineer when leaders are coming through. Scotty would have been fighting for position.
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REM
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  08:18:38  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by jamolad

quote:
Originally posted by REM

I reckon JB knows his stuff hey....that last adjustment has really given the ZB a significant edge....



Some of us, including JB, don't think JB offers an impartial point of view.

"My closeness and relationship with the Johnson family make it very difficult for me to be impartial so I feel it's best to remain silent."

- John Bowe, 20 October 2019





He would say the same of the Joneses...the team he actually did promo photos with for the Sandown event I reckon few in the paddock would be ab;le to access info from both Holden and Ford teams like JB can....

That's great, it starts with an earthquake
Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes
And Lenny Bruce is not afraid!
"Remember that in the end nobody wins, unless everybody wins!" Springsteen BTR.



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Futura Coupe
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  09:13:49  Show Profile Send Futura Coupe a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by jamolad

Lapped cars would have been shown blue flags and generally are warned by their engineer when leaders are coming through. Scotty would have been fighting for position.



True, but again, Scott did not have cars in front of him all the time. SVG got purple after he had his suspension repaired and was a lap or so down. No blue flags for him at that stage.
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jamolad
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  09:55:14  Show Profile Send jamolad a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Futura Coupe

...SVG got purple after he had his suspension repaired and was a lap or so down. No blue flags for him at that stage.



He was on fresh tyres on a rubbered-up low-UV track with red mist in his eyes and no longer needed a sense of self-preservation. Nearly everyone was doing quicker laps at the end.

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Originally posted by REM

quote:
Originally posted by jamolad

quote:
Originally posted by REM

I reckon JB knows his stuff hey....that last adjustment has really given the ZB a significant edge....



Some of us, including JB, don't think JB offers an impartial point of view.

"My closeness and relationship with the Johnson family make it very difficult for me to be impartial so I feel it's best to remain silent."

- John Bowe, 20 October 2019





He would say the same of the Joneses...the team he actually did promo photos with for the Sandown event I reckon few in the paddock would be ab;le to access info from both Holden and Ford teams like JB can....



You understand that his self-admitted bias goes both ways...his pro-bias for DJR clouds his judgement with respect to their rivals. Or is he only half pregnant? Yes, he is also close to BJR, but I'd suggest he has no problem picking his favourite child.

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djr18fan
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I noticed that for some of the incidents under investigation it took an extremely long time for a decision to be announced.

Ridiculous. Teams need quick decisions in order to organise new strategy or confirm existing strategy. I demand instant decisions from officials!

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the undertaker
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  11:53:57  Show Profile Send the undertaker a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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I noticed that for some of the incidents under investigation it took an extremely long time for a decision to be announced.

Ridiculous. Teams need quick decisions in order to organise new strategy or confirm existing strategy. I demand instant decisions from officials!



What? Like Bairds ridiculous decision to penalise ADP for being rammed by van gisbergin?
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DJRford
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  13:10:55  Show Profile Send DJRford a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
So now that Holden have won the last five races I assume we're getting a parity change in the Mustang's favour ahead of Newcastle? Or are they just doing a better job?



























































































_Mford














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Sonic
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  15:01:55  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by the undertaker

quote:
Originally posted by djr18fan

I noticed that for some of the incidents under investigation it took an extremely long time for a decision to be announced.

Ridiculous. Teams need quick decisions in order to organise new strategy or confirm existing strategy. I demand instant decisions from officials!



What? Like Bairds ridiculous decision to penalise ADP for being rammed by van gisbergin?



I think quick decisions are a good idea. BUT there must be room to move also.

So in an instance like ADP vs Giz when it was pretty clear to everyone else that it was Giz at fault the team should be given the standard 3 laps to either serve or appeal the decision...

if they serve it is over and done, if they appeal it gets looked at post race... everyone knows it is there and the race results don't get posted til after it has been heard... but it also must have added penalty applied in those instances... I think 3x would suffice...

so if you are hit with a drive through that would be a 40 second time penalty and appeal and lose you would have a 120 second time added to your race time... that would make sure that only serious appeals are brought to RC at the end of the day.

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troy01505
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  17:59:26  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Scotty was ****ed over by his co-driver and also a penalty from a prior incident where they had an out of spec engine. Any speed loss suffered was a result of these 2 incidents and nothing else. He still wrapped up a championship so who gives a ****.

You guys would melt down if you read or heard half the stuff coming from some of their team members so called “mates”.
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AlbertM
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  19:04:21  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

Scotty was ****ed over by his co-driver and also a penalty from a prior incident where they had an out of spec engine. Any speed loss suffered was a result of these 2 incidents and nothing else. He still wrapped up a championship so who gives a ****.

You guys would melt down if you read or heard half the stuff coming from some of their team members so called “mates”.



Scotty's co-driver won Bathurst, kept the car straight and won the Championship a round early. Wasn't the fastest but got the job done.

Only ones who seem to give a **** are complaining that they won.

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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troy01505
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  19:55:47  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by AlbertM

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

Scotty was ****ed over by his co-driver and also a penalty from a prior incident where they had an out of spec engine. Any speed loss suffered was a result of these 2 incidents and nothing else. He still wrapped up a championship so who gives a ****.

You guys would melt down if you read or heard half the stuff coming from some of their team members so called “mates”.



Scotty's co-driver won Bathurst, kept the car straight and won the Championship a round early. Wasn't the fastest but got the job done.

Only ones who seem to give a **** are complaining that they won.




All I see and read is some Ford fans still complaining scottys car is no longer fast enough because of parity adjustments yet they won Bathurst since them changes.

Sandown speed was a result of either conserving, co-driver or both. No conspiracy, o advantage and certainly no disadvantage.

Edited by - troy01505 on 11 Nov 2019 20:38:36
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AlbertM
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Posted - 11 Nov 2019 :  20:23:12  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
So now Scotty won Bathurst fair and square and not because of his team mate or dodgy engines?

Scott is on record saying he was not being conservative in his Sandown stint.

The last parity change for Holden was done via the back door, had it had gone through the board it probably would've been knocked back. Commodore has been consistently quicker since the change. Mustang won 5 on the trot parity was front and center and a change was made. Well Holden has won 5 and dominantly, why is parity off the table?

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
_Mford

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