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Kieron302
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Posted - 19 Jan 2018 :  15:13:08  Show Profile Send Kieron302 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I don't like the idea of mixing/matching the engines, turns it into a 70's style Sports Sedan class. Already, Toranas are allowed to run Chev engines as I believe the 308 blows head gaskets when stretched to the limit, JB's proving the 308 can be competitive though.

I'm happy to see the VB race against the XD, both with period body kits and the VB using the 308 or Chev 5 litre as per the Torrie, would be a great spectacle in my view. If either one is too dominant, add weights. The VB might make the current Torrie's obsolete though.

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Wizz23
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Posted - 20 Jan 2018 :  13:32:32  Show Profile Send Wizz23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Kieron302

I don't like the idea of mixing/matching the engines, turns it into a 70's style Sports Sedan class. Already, Toranas are allowed to run Chev engines as I believe the 308 blows head gaskets when stretched to the limit, JB's proving the 308 can be competitive though.

I'm happy to see the VB race against the XD, both with period body kits and the VB using the 308 or Chev 5 litre as per the Torrie, would be a great spectacle in my view. If either one is too dominant, add weights. The VB might make the current Torrie's obsolete though.





I believe JB's Torana is still a 5 litre chev. I asked at the final at homebush in 2016 when the lion was going back in and they weren't sure? I don't know about now. Aftermarket 5 litre holden blocks and heads a bulletproof, everything is either aftemarket or with substantial modern components . The Torana should still a holden that's for sure

Kieron we wouldn't be having this discussion if the VB was in, so what do you think is the rational behind this decision??

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Legendary Gerry
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Posted - 20 Jan 2018 :  15:41:19  Show Profile Send Legendary Gerry a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Wizz23

quote:
Originally posted by Kieron302

I don't like the idea of mixing/matching the engines, turns it into a 70's style Sports Sedan class. Already, Toranas are allowed to run Chev engines as I believe the 308 blows head gaskets when stretched to the limit, JB's proving the 308 can be competitive though.

I'm happy to see the VB race against the XD, both with period body kits and the VB using the 308 or Chev 5 litre as per the Torrie, would be a great spectacle in my view. If either one is too dominant, add weights. The VB might make the current Torrie's obsolete though.





I believe JB's Torana is still a 5 litre chev. I asked at the final at homebush in 2016 when the lion was going back in and they weren't sure? I don't know about now. Aftermarket 5 litre holden blocks and heads a bulletproof, everything is either aftemarket or with substantial modern components . The Torana should still a holden that's for sure

Kieron we wouldn't be having this discussion if the VB was in, so what do you think is the rational behind this decision??



You do mean a 5 litre Holden don't you...
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CP
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Posted - 20 Jan 2018 :  16:37:18  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

quote:
Originally posted by Wizz23

quote:
Originally posted by Kieron302

I don't like the idea of mixing/matching the engines, turns it into a 70's style Sports Sedan class. Already, Toranas are allowed to run Chev engines as I believe the 308 blows head gaskets when stretched to the limit, JB's proving the 308 can be competitive though.

I'm happy to see the VB race against the XD, both with period body kits and the VB using the 308 or Chev 5 litre as per the Torrie, would be a great spectacle in my view. If either one is too dominant, add weights. The VB might make the current Torrie's obsolete though.





I believe JB's Torana is still a 5 litre chev. I asked at the final at homebush in 2016 when the lion was going back in and they weren't sure? I don't know about now. Aftermarket 5 litre holden blocks and heads a bulletproof, everything is either aftemarket or with substantial modern components . The Torana should still a holden that's for sure

Kieron we wouldn't be having this discussion if the VB was in, so what do you think is the rational behind this decision??



You do mean a 5 litre Holden don't you...



The bearded Taswegian is proud of the fact that he has the only Holden 308 powered 'rana out there.

For comparison's sake, Jason Gomersall's is a KRE built Chev 308.

https://autoaction.com.au/2017/02/02/red-white-brock
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Fast by Ferracci
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Posted - 20 Jan 2018 :  17:01:35  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Kieron302

I don't like the idea of mixing/matching the engines, turns it into a 70's style Sports Sedan class



Isn't it already that, given we've had a Javelin powered by a Chysler engine?
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Wizz23
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Posted - 21 Jan 2018 :  10:53:16  Show Profile Send Wizz23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by CP

quote:
Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

quote:
Originally posted by Wizz23

quote:
Originally posted by Kieron302

I don't like the idea of mixing/matching the engines, turns it into a 70's style Sports Sedan class. Already, Toranas are allowed to run Chev engines as I believe the 308 blows head gaskets when stretched to the limit, JB's proving the 308 can be competitive though.

I'm happy to see the VB race against the XD, both with period body kits and the VB using the 308 or Chev 5 litre as per the Torrie, would be a great spectacle in my view. If either one is too dominant, add weights. The VB might make the current Torrie's obsolete though.





I believe JB's Torana is still a 5 litre chev. I asked at the final at homebush in 2016 when the lion was going back in and they weren't sure? I don't know about now. Aftermarket 5 litre holden blocks and heads a bulletproof, everything is either aftemarket or with substantial modern components . The Torana should still a holden that's for sure

Kieron we wouldn't be having this discussion if the VB was in, so what do you think is the rational behind this decision??



You do mean a 5 litre Holden don't you...



The bearded Taswegian is proud of the fact that he has the only Holden 308 powered 'rana out there.

For comparison's sake, Jason Gomersall's is a KRE built Chev 308.

https://autoaction.com.au/2017/02/02/red-white-brock



The last time I had my head looking in that engine bay it was definitely a Chev.

I was disappointed, the Holden v8 is the little engine that could. Remember back in the day HRT were taking theirs to 10,000 rpm's in qualy. Wouldn't last in a race but boy do they sing just like the Windsors. I had 4 304/308's over the years but now I have a LS, goes like stink but doesn't sound as good doing it.

A 308 Chev hey.........indeed
The 302 Chev is a 327 block with a 283 crank

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Edited by - Wizz23 on 22 Jan 2018 12:16:43
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skaifeman
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Posted - 21 Jan 2018 :  12:23:57  Show Profile Send skaifeman a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Wizz23

quote:
Originally posted by CP

quote:
Originally posted by Legendary Gerry

quote:
Originally posted by Wizz23

quote:
Originally posted by Kieron302

I don't like the idea of mixing/matching the engines, turns it into a 70's style Sports Sedan class. Already, Toranas are allowed to run Chev engines as I believe the 308 blows head gaskets when stretched to the limit, JB's proving the 308 can be competitive though.

I'm happy to see the VB race against the XD, both with period body kits and the VB using the 308 or Chev 5 litre as per the Torrie, would be a great spectacle in my view. If either one is too dominant, add weights. The VB might make the current Torrie's obsolete though.





I believe JB's Torana is still a 5 litre chev. I asked at the final at homebush in 2016 when the lion was going back in and they weren't sure? I don't know about now. Aftermarket 5 litre holden blocks and heads a bulletproof, everything is either aftemarket or with substantial modern components . The Torana should still a holden that's for sure

Kieron we wouldn't be having this discussion if the VB was in, so what do you think is the rational behind this decision??



You do mean a 5 litre Holden don't you...



The bearded Taswegian is proud of the fact that he has the only Holden 308 powered 'rana out there.

For comparison's sake, Jason Gomersall's is a KRE built Chev 308.

https://autoaction.com.au/2017/02/02/red-white-brock



The last time I had my head looking in that engine bay it was definitely a Chev.

I was disappointed, the Holden v8 is the little engine that could. Remember back in the day HRT were taking theirs to 10,000 rpm's in qualy. Wouldn't last in a race but boy do they sing just like the Windsors. I had 4 304/308's over the years but now I have a LS, goes like stink but doesn't sound as good doing it.

A 308 Chev hey.........indeed
The 302 Chev is a 350 block with a 283 crank


IIRC they did move to the Chev?
Talk around the pits was Bowey doesn't enjoy losing.


"Fordís Bathurst winning bonus didnít even cover the cost of the after-party" - Allan Moffat, 1977
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Kieron302
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Posted - 23 Jan 2018 :  15:48:17  Show Profile Send Kieron302 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Wizz23

Kieron we wouldn't be having this discussion if the VB was in, so what do you think is the rational behind this decision??



Hard to say mate. A stab would be the front running cars are Torrie's, Camaros & Mustangs. No Aussie Ford at the front so introduce the XD with the Johnson name and a win win, Aussie Ford (that's presumably easier to make competitive) vs Aussie Torrie for now.

What would be nice is Moff Jnr in an XC hardtop in the famous MFDT colours but are these big old lumbering hardtops too hard to make competitive?
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