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Posted - 10 Sep 2018 :  11:10:15  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Doubt you would get a straight answer from CAMS about that CP...

I don't think there has ever been more than a grid of 11 but I don't know if the cars have been rotated over the years as well as the suggested pilfering...

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Posted - 10 Sep 2018 :  14:39:10  Show Profile Send bludvl a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Originally posted by oldtimer

Originally posted by Sonic

Originally posted by CP

I am curious if there would still be the massive numbers in Formula Ford now had they taken up the idea of a winged Formula Ford about a decade or so ago?

Or perhaps if it had been introduced properly rather than CAMS thuggery?

Back when I was a CAMS State Councilor, CAMS was widely interpreted as Campaign Against Motor Sport.

As there are CAMS members on the Forum, I wonder if any recall that members were consulted before CAMS spent all that money buying 20 F4 cars?

Nope, no consultation at all.

Part (or a lot) of the general anger and dislike for F4 is the way that it was forced into the Australian landscape.

Firstly, CAMS took away the National Championship status of the FFords, then they announced that they were buying a whole heap of French F4 chassis and promoting their own series. Why did they do this, without any consultation of their members? Well, there are theories abound. My favourite is that someone at CAMS wants to look good to the FIA, and how better to by French-built cars, from a family member of someone involved in the FIA? Looks good for a political career in France when they want to move up in the corporate world...

In once fell swoop, they alienated almost the entire customer base that would have been likely to move from FFord to F4.

I believe, if they had consulted with the FFord competitors and given them a timeline of say 5 years (just to pull out a number) to the end of FFord/beginning of F4 and had reasonable expectations of the time taken to life out the current FFord chassis, then they may have found that the competitor base was happy to buy a F4 as their next replacement, rather than a new FFord. Maybe, entirely my opinion.

When CAMS list F4 success stories such as Tom Randle, they are merely hitching their Jayco caravan to his car. He was always heading to Europe, even before he won the FFord championship. That trip wasn't because of F4, although there may have been some prize money that assisted. He would have gone regardless...

'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'
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