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bigem
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Posted - 14 Oct 2019 :  16:40:49  Show Profile Send bigem a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
So Holden are going to use a $140K Cadilac as their Supercar? It's $97K in the USA and isn't made in rhd!
Someone is smoking woopy weed if they think the CT Caddies are going to replace the current Commodore!

Holden is down to less than 100 cars a day, they used to sell a thousand! Key Holden dealers are moving Holdens to the side lots and putting Hyundai, KIA and even HAVAL in the prime spots!
That tells me the dealers have zero faith in the brand any more!

New Commodore Hey! So you used your own money? Would you like to buy a used bridge?

Edited by - bigem on 14 Oct 2019 16:45:32
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bigcol
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Posted - 15 Oct 2019 :  00:22:32  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Don't mention the brand new Insignias going to the auctions

ONLY LITTLE BOYZ WEAR BOWTIES
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bigem
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Posted - 09 Nov 2019 :  10:28:36  Show Profile Send bigem a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Still on a slippery slope to oblivion by the looks of IT. Local Holden dealer has mover Commodore to the back of the lot and has Arcadias and Colorado's across the front now! Another 38% drop in sales compared to a national drop of onlyb8% can't continue to keep them in business!

New Commodore Hey! So you used your own money? Would you like to buy a used bridge?
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troy01505
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Posted - 02 Dec 2019 :  15:08:18  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Still dying and another boss bites the dust, never fear though they are still determined to try and sell rusting 2-3 year old opels rather then just scrape the name plate or speed up US options.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/811317/holden-boss-dave-buttner-steps-down-after-the-company-posts-its-lowest-sales-since-1948/?utm_source=toughcars&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=forum_affiliate_program
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Posted - 04 Dec 2019 :  20:41:15  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Out of the top 10 in overall sales, and the Colorado is not only been outsold 3:1 by the Hilux, Ford Ranger and the beauty in the eye of the beer holder Triton, but more Isuzu DMax's were sold. Apart from engine and styling, its the same vehicle.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/811764/vfacts-november-2019-sales-results/
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Posted - 04 Dec 2019 :  22:19:59  Show Profile Send Preditor a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bigem

Still on a slippery slope to oblivion by the looks of IT. Local Holden dealer has mover Commodore to the back of the lot and has Arcadias and Colorado's across the front now! Another 38% drop in sales compared to a national drop of onlyb8% can't continue to keep them in business!



From the sounds of it you are not born in australia, for someone that bags and is always putting down Australia's only car brand, just remember the Commodore was the number 1 sell car in Australia for 30 years straight, an achievement Ford could only dream about.

I heard there will be a name change to the series next year, the new name is Penske mustang cup series with their major sponsor to be Laxative guarantee to clear any backing up at Bathurst 2020.
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Posted - 04 Dec 2019 :  23:52:53  Show Profile  Visit AlbertM's Homepage Send AlbertM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
No, no it wasn't

Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
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bigem
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Posted - 04 Dec 2019 :  23:55:44  Show Profile Send bigem a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
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Originally posted by bigem

Still on a slippery slope to oblivion by the looks of IT. Local Holden dealer has mover Commodore to the back of the lot and has Arcadias and Colorado's across the front now! Another 38% drop in sales compared to a national drop of onlyb8% can't continue to keep them in business!



From the sounds of it you are not born in australia, for someone that bags and is always putting down Australia's only car brand, just remember the Commodore was the number 1 sell car in Australia for 30 years straight, an achievement Ford could only dream about.



And now they can't even sell 10 a day, ****ing gold!
They are, and always have been an American owned car brand, they are no more Australian than Toyota or Ford or any other importer, and they are going out of business, that a big enough fact for you, history is just that, history, and nobody cares, that's why they can't sell the POS anymore! And it's Chinese powered!

New Commodore Hey! So you used your own money? Would you like to buy a used bridge?
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https://www.driven.co.nz/news/news/holden-commodore-future-looking-bleak-as-us-twin-is-discontinued/

Yikes, not looking good. How the mighty has fallen.

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troy01505
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Posted - 05 Dec 2019 :  19:38:04  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by murph_fan51

https://www.driven.co.nz/news/news/holden-commodore-future-looking-bleak-as-us-twin-is-discontinued/

Yikes, not looking good. How the mighty has fallen.



They were told the ZB would not sell by the very people who bought their cars. If they listened they would not have these things scattered in yards, docks and on ships rusting away.

US were smarter then Holden as Holden have committed to X amount over a longer period of time so canít cut it as quickly.
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Posted - 05 Dec 2019 :  23:27:19  Show Profile Send bigem a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I'm amazed that anybody would be stupid enough to buy one in the first place! Obviously GM think they are a dud, and more astonishing is that somebody in Holden thinks they decide what products Holden sells, the Commodore nameplate will cease to exist by June 2020 According to some articles, and that IS coming from inside Holden!

New Commodore Hey! So you used your own money? Would you like to buy a used bridge?
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Posted - 06 Dec 2019 :  10:53:30  Show Profile Send Preditor a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bigem

I'm amazed that anybody would be stupid enough to buy one in the first place! Obviously GM think they are a dud, and more astonishing is that somebody in Holden thinks they decide what products Holden sells, the Commodore nameplate will cease to exist by June 2020 According to some articles, and that IS coming from inside Holden!



So tell me oh wise one what is wrong with the ZB since you are the expert on ZB have you driven one, i have driven one and the finish and quality puts the slowly dying mustang to shame.

I heard there will be a name change to the series next year, the new name is Penske mustang cup series with their major sponsor to be Laxative guarantee to clear any backing up at Bathurst 2020.
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Posted - 06 Dec 2019 :  13:17:48  Show Profile Send Sonic a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
such a sad way for the Holden brand to be on display in public

@Preditor... the issue for the "Commodore" isn't so much the car itself but that GMH has tried to make it something it is not and that has been a downfall for them... I have heard many reports that the car itself isn't a bad thing but a Commodore it ain't!

Wondering how many more years we will even see the name "Holden" if they are getting so on the nose... sad how far the mighty have fallen... and I am a Holden bloke having owned more than I can count (still in a VE)

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Posted - 06 Dec 2019 :  23:29:44  Show Profile Send bigem a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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quote:
Originally posted by bigem

I'm amazed that anybody would be stupid enough to buy one in the first place! Obviously GM think they are a dud, and more astonishing is that somebody in Holden thinks they decide what products Holden sells, the Commodore nameplate will cease to exist by June 2020 According to some articles, and that IS coming from inside Holden!



So tell me oh wise one what is wrong with the ZB since you are the expert on ZB have you driven one, i have driven one and the finish and quality puts the slowly dying mustang to shame.



You really are that dumb you don't realise it!

ZB could be the best car in the world but it still won't sell! It's not the cars fault, it's your hero Holdens fault!

It's the wrong car, always has been, that's why it failed as an OPEL!

Commodore deserves more than front wheel drive and Chinese engines!

It's dead, and Holden will follow shortly after!

What more proof do you need that Holden isn't an Australian company, they never have been, they have always taken their direction from GM, and they are now, look at the ****full lineup they have, Daewoos and unwanted OPELs! The same crap they cant sell in the USA!

New Commodore Hey! So you used your own money? Would you like to buy a used bridge?
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troy01505
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Posted - 07 Dec 2019 :  13:48:04  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by bigem

quote:
Originally posted by Preditor

quote:
Originally posted by bigem

I'm amazed that anybody would be stupid enough to buy one in the first place! Obviously GM think they are a dud, and more astonishing is that somebody in Holden thinks they decide what products Holden sells, the Commodore nameplate will cease to exist by June 2020 According to some articles, and that IS coming from inside Holden!



So tell me oh wise one what is wrong with the ZB since you are the expert on ZB have you driven one, i have driven one and the finish and quality puts the slowly dying mustang to shame.



You really are that dumb you don't realise it!

ZB could be the best car in the world but it still won't sell! It's not the cars fault, it's your hero Holdens fault!

It's the wrong car, always has been, that's why it failed as an OPEL!

Commodore deserves more than front wheel drive and Chinese engines!

It's dead, and Holden will follow shortly after!

What more proof do you need that Holden isn't an Australian company, they never have been, they have always taken their direction from GM, and they are now, look at the ****full lineup they have, Daewoos and unwanted OPELs! The same crap they cant sell in the USA!



Why was Holden once called Australiaís own for so long then? They advertised it, the government plastered it everywhere and the faithful preached it and rubbed it into to all the Fordies, mopar mads, jap crappers as far back as the 40s? Not sure when it stopped actually.
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