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Posted - 30 Nov 2019 :  10:59:39  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Sorry Trev you are right...67....the current generation will need to be self funded at 70 not able to get handouts

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If you go on inflation, obviously $6 in the 80's is not the same value as $6 in 2019.

Trev, would the $6 you got paid then be close to what minimum wage is now?

yes it was, but we managed without whingeing our arses off to anyone who will listen

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Posted - 30 Nov 2019 :  11:05:40  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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quote:
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If you go on inflation, obviously $6 in the 80's is not the same value as $6 in 2019.

Trev, would the $6 you got paid then be close to what minimum wage is now?

yes it was, but we managed without whingeing our arses off to anyone who will listen

Millennial's - the generation of entitlement



You have GOT to be kidding me....I would much rather do business with a millennial than a baby boomer anytime !...I can honestly not think of a generation who complains more about
Money
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plus they can retire at 65 !!!

no I can't. Did you read my post?

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Yep real hard! $6 an hour and $60 electricity bills, fortnightís shopping $50 etc vs todayís income and $1000 electricity and $500 plus a fortnight shopping.

it is all relative, typical response from a Millennial 'oh, but it is all about me'



$6 minimum wage V $19.59ish today
$60 elec V $1000 today

You do the math, remembering all that crap you claim you never had my parents had and are 60ish, both on government pensions something Iíd never be entitled to. They had Medicare, they had bulk billed doctors(I donít I pay a gap) they didnít need preschools and childcare as they had things so damn easy i employment was a 1 man job per home. Government owned everything and having it to you blokes cheap as chips.

If you wanna talk about people who are handed everything then itís the generation below me, my generation works hard, pays our own way and is stuck funding todayís retirees.

I am with you tricky. They whinge, they bitch and they expect sympathy from people who work 80 plus hours a week, plus volunteer and plus bring up 2 children other people had along with 3 of their own and one on the way.

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Posted - 30 Nov 2019 :  11:30:42  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Dont compare your parents with the majority.

Also understand Boomers go from 1946 to 1960. I was born in 1957, we are very different people to the mid '40's people

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Thanks because most inherited the family farm :)
But you could be right OT, thatís why a lot of them play the victim card and believe that everyone is out to rip them off....not to mention no other generation has worked harder...

what a stupid and ignorant comment

I left home at 18 with NOTHING, my parents gave me NOTHING, not even love

The first time I got something from my parents was from my fathers will in 2008 - stupid comment T1



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Lol, ok boomer.

1) cities and Cost of living were much lower for boomers in their 20s, no need for both parents to work and childcare didnít cost $100/day per child.
and wages were **** all, but you forget that, I will post up 2 of my payslips from the 80's, one from 1980 and one from 1987 later - wadda ya reckon? one is $6 per hour in 1980 driving milk tankers for a dairy company and the other is $8 ph

And why don't you tell us about the 'up to 50%' you get back for out of pocket child care costs at tax time - you people always seem to forget to confess that - my wife is a child care worker and runs a small at home small business, I know exactly what support you get

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2) Income support is propping you plenty of boomers, while millennials on income support are more often than not full time students, with part time jobs. More on that below.
bull****, I work full time and so does my wife. And thanks to Kevin I can't even access the age pension until I am 67

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3) Boomers had a FREE education and then imposed a bill on education. Iím not sure about you, but I had a $50,000 debt at the age of 23 due to my education, which I undertook to contribute to society, which is inevitably supporting an ageing population who rose the high life. I canít speak for others, but I also subsidised my full time employment with a part time job for the first three years out of uni to afford this education. Remind me about education support?
free education hahahahaha, mate I left school when I wasn't quite 16 to join the workforce and I am still in it - typical ignorant comment from someone who studies Facebook instead of facts

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4) Wages are stagnating, theyíre low in the first instance and houses are expensive, so is rent! Iíve paid more than a house deposit in rent in the past 6 years, but because I need somewhere to live, in a large city in a modest paying job, with my $50,000 debt, the capital I would otherwise save goes into my loan, rent and bills.
blame the Government and their stupid fiscal policies for wages stagnation

Wanna talk home deposit. We had to have a 3rd of the price of a house in the bank locked away for 12 months before the bank would even talk to us a bout a mortgage, that was 1980 when my wages were $6 ph. In today's terms that is $100,000 to $200,000 in the bank for 12 months untouched as a deposit - then to add pain interest rates went up to 18% - how do you reckon you would go. You would have to get rid of one your 2019 cars, downsize to a 50" TV, have no "me time", no Latte's, have to stay in Australia to have a holiday instead of flying overseas.

You people live in a different world - you whinge because you blow money on a **** load of unnecessary items and have an interest rate at 3%

hahahahaha, you ****ers make me laugh

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Remind me again how easy millennials have it? Oh right, boomers only care about how they built everything up (for their own gain) and that the rest of us should be thankful.

damn straight

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Boomers - always pointing the finger at everyone else, while their other hand is outstretched for handouts.
and you forget that we put most of the money in the Governments hands through our taxes from NEVER being unemployed, we had no P.B.S. no Medicare, you either paid for Private Health Insurance or you paid at the Doctors - no freebies old mate. My wife (who was a stay at home mum - yes we lived on one wage) got $5 per month per child child endowment, how much do you get from the Government no days (from my taxes)

However I am paying for your Medicare, you Child Care rebates, P.B.S. and numerous other things you collect



Your saying that I read Facebook to make an opinion? Look at the tripe you are spouting. Again, generalisations about our generation. If I could afford flashy cars and TVs, then I would.

When it comes to education, the fact that your personally went straight to work, does not change the fact that tertiary education today comes with a crippling debt and that never used to be the case.

As others have pointed out, I would happy earn less and live in a time when there was cheaper cost of living. Iíd also happily take a pension at 67, but that will not be possible for millennials.

Iím simply pointing out that times have changed and this whole Ďmillennials get whatever they wantí is absolutely rubbish. We work just as hard, if not harder to contribute to society than most, weíre educated, we support the tax system equally and more of that is going towards an ageing population.

I genuinely think a lot of the older generations have an issue with ours because the job market is more fluid, we chase jobs that we want, not jobs because we need them. Weíre efficient with our time and use technology to our advantage. But above all else, it is a more difficult time than ever before to break into things like housing markets, because you know, weíre up to our eyeballs in debt just so we can contribute to society with jobs.

Maybe you need to take your ego down a notch Trev and see things from someone elseís perspective, instead of always trying to be the bloke that is right, tougher than the rest and more hard done by. Maybe you need a hug too.

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Posted - 01 Dec 2019 :  05:33:49  Show Profile  Visit Trev's Homepage Send Trev a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Well, my friend go and do a bit of research, I believe it was Keating who introduced free Uni, go and see who changed that then get back to me

And who exactly invented the technology your generation is so addicted to?


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You do the math, remembering all that crap you claim you never had my parents had and are 60ish, both on government pensions something Iíd never be entitled to. They had Medicare, they had bulk billed doctors(I donít I pay a gap) they didnít need preschools and childcare as they had things so damn easy i employment was a 1 man job per home. Government owned everything and having it to you blokes cheap as chips.
one man per job was right - women were sacked for being pregnant in our generation, it wasn't a choice to be a one income family it was forced on us by a prior generation - did we whinge? no, we just got on with it.

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If you wanna talk about people who are handed everything then itís the generation below me, my generation works hard, pays our own way and is stuck funding todayís retirees.
that is the biggest crock of **** I have read, you know and have said we were the generation when jobs were plenty, well along with that you pay tax, lots of tax, why is it our fault the successive Governments have blown it, they have blown it instead of planning for our generation to come through as retirees - just stupid ignorant vote buying policies has seen our pension blown

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I am with you tricky. They whinge, they bitch and they expect sympathy from people who work 80 plus hours a week, plus volunteer and plus bring up 2 children other people had along with 3 of their own and one on the way.

we had 4 kids under 4, between $6 - $8 per hour, paying a mortgage, paying power and gas, couldn't afford to buy new cars, always 2nd hand **** fighters, a 12 inch TV on a milk crate for entertainment, an old foam mattress as a couch - you people have no ****ing idea

Yes, I am very aware that there are some ignorant rude Boomers out there, but like you claim for your generation they are a minority

Most have worked ****ing hard to get what they have, most have supported their kids far longer than we were ever supported by our parents - how many of the people you know (in their 30's) are sill living at home milking their parents (boomers) teats?

This battle about boomers versus the next generation was started by you lot - we respected the battles our parents did to give us what we have, your generation got more from their parents than we ever got - yet you still whinge about us - it is just typical lack of respect from you lot - I have said enough, and you lot have said enough to convince me my argument stands - cheerio

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$6 minimum wage V $19.59ish today
$60 elec V $1000 today
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I don't know the minimum wage back then or even if they had one, but I was paid above what some friends were paid.

14 pounds, 17 shillings and sixpence per 80 hour fortnight.

That would be $29.75 equivalent.

or, 37.1875 cents per hour.

But on the bright side, food rationing had stopped by then.

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Posted - 01 Dec 2019 :  08:42:48  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I wonder if the parents of baby boomers bitched and complained as they do ?.....they are the true hard workers IMOVIE

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Has anyone mentioned the compulsory lottery of possible death in Vietnam that applied to 20 year old Baby Boomers.

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or world war 1 and 2

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or world war 1 and 2



How many baby boomers fought in WW1 or WW2

Our parents did though, and there was considerable austerity in the aftermath with rationing of some food and grocery items ending some time after I commenced School.

Even building materials, like bricks and roofing material were rationed well into the 1950's.

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or world war 1 and 2



How many baby boomers fought in WW1 or WW2

Our parents did though, and there was considerable austerity in the aftermath with rationing of some food and grocery items ending some time after I commenced School.

Even building materials, like bricks and roofing material were rationed well into the 1950's.



I think thatís my point OT
Your parents and grand parents are the generations we should be respecting and looking up to...and interesting they are a generation who donít seem to grizzle anywhere near as much as the baby boomers

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and houses weren't expensive in 1980 when I first bought mine?

The cost of houses is driven by the purchaser, not by the seller, you would be pretty silly and ignorant to think anything different

My cousin bought a house in a inner Melbourne suburb for $48,000, now valued at about $1.4m - how has he contributed in the price going to that - all he did was buy in it and live in it

It is the idiots who pay the prices, and who are the new home buyers?


I may be a millennial (born '84), but this is one boomer post that basically matches my way of thinking. Just goes to show that categorising people by generations doesn't always work. Some of my classmates from high school are hardworking and can afford the flash house and so on. Maybe they really are worth that much to them. But the degree to which people of any generation are willing to jump into the rat race like that and live out their days sitting in traffic etc. as well amazes me sometimes.

To me it rarely makes sense to pay way more than what something's actually worth. Surely in most cases there's ways to 'shop around' or find alternative paths/callings in life.
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