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Zac
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Posted - 09 Nov 2019 :  08:05:50  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I disagree that the carbon tax was working and doing exactly as intended. A good idea, badly implemented, which made it easy for Tony Abbott to aim low with his (three word ) slogan, "Axe the Tax". Tell voters something is going to cost them more, and you lose them. Disappointing, as Australia with 0.3% of the world's population produces 1.8% of the world's greenhouse gases. In other words, on average, each person in Australia is responsible for six times the amount of greenhouse gas than the world average per person.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/how-not-to-introduce-a-carbon-tax-the-australian-experience-1.3746214
https://www.atlasnetwork.org/news/article/canada-should-learn-from-australias-failed-carbon-tax-experiment
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/05/how-australia-bungled-climate-policy-to-create-a-decade-of-disappointment
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/09/australias-energy-policy-is-a-world-class-failure-and-abbott-wears-the-gold-medal-of-blame
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-17/davidson-goodbye-to-the-all-pain,-no-gain-carbon-tax/5597614

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troy01505
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Posted - 09 Nov 2019 :  09:35:12  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
****ing idiot climate alarmists blaming our bloody fires ripping through our friends homes on global warming when actual fact they’ve Been protesting for over 10 years yo successfully stop controlled burns in the area! Government didn’t give a ****, they just sent the documents to put a stop to it to shut the noisy ****wits up.
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 09 Nov 2019 :  09:46:15  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Zac

I disagree that the carbon tax was working and doing exactly as intended. A good idea, badly implemented, which made it easy for Tony Abbott to aim low with his (three word ) slogan, "Axe the Tax". Tell voters something is going to cost them more, and you lose them. Disappointing, as Australia with 0.3% of the world's population produces 1.8% of the world's greenhouse gases. In other words, on average, each person in Australia is responsible for six times the amount of greenhouse gas than the world average per person.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/how-not-to-introduce-a-carbon-tax-the-australian-experience-1.3746214
https://www.atlasnetwork.org/news/article/canada-should-learn-from-australias-failed-carbon-tax-experiment
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/05/how-australia-bungled-climate-policy-to-create-a-decade-of-disappointment
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/09/australias-energy-policy-is-a-world-class-failure-and-abbott-wears-the-gold-medal-of-blame
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-17/davidson-goodbye-to-the-all-pain,-no-gain-carbon-tax/5597614




Love all your research zaccy .....good to see somebody as passionate about our planet us me

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Posted - 09 Nov 2019 :  10:04:53  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Years ago, when travelling through fire areas trying to get home, I found myself on John Laws station trying to get news.

Johns profound though (roughly verbatim):

Where are all the tree huggers now. You don't find too many tree huggers when the tree is on fire.

Apparently there was a major burning area that had been locked up by a green leaning administration that did not allow any control burning in the area.
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Zac
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Posted - 09 Nov 2019 :  10:08:16  Show Profile Send Zac a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
T1, as passionate as you? You now agree that our planet is warming (but it’ll probably swing back to cooling again), and you don’t know what’s causing this warming, although man could have something to do with it?

Passionate? Maybe. OTOH, I don’t claim to be passionate, just a realist.

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Trickyonne
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Posted - 09 Nov 2019 :  10:31:56  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

Years ago, when travelling through fire areas trying to get home, I found myself on John Laws station trying to get news.

Johns profound though (roughly verbatim):

Where are all the tree huggers now. You don't find too many tree huggers when the tree is on fire.

Apparently there was a major burning area that had been locked up by a green leaning administration that did not allow any control burning in the area.



so very very true



https://www.facebook.com/abcsoutheastsa/photos/a.244032967716/10156680375767717/?type=3&theater

Same people telling the government we are in a drought are hand8mg cheque’s out again

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djr18fan
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Posted - 12 Nov 2019 :  16:58:01  Show Profile Send djr18fan a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/goat-markets-boost-climate-resilience-in-mozambique-by-sabine-homann-kee-tui-2019-11

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troy01505
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Posted - 16 Nov 2019 :  20:06:05  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Genuine question here if anyone can answer.

I have been told the ocean temps are rising year on year but then someone showed us a local chart shows this years monthly averages are sitting bout half way (give or take 0.3°c) between the highest years averages and lowest years averages, chart was early 90s-current. Hope this makes sense. Upon seeing this chart they then claimed that the ocean temperatures were rising but then all the ice started to melt which then cooled it back down again.

Is this the go or what? I am either stupid for thinking WTF or they are for saying it.

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Trickyonne
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Posted - 16 Nov 2019 :  20:22:54  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
https://youtu.be/M7j75L38PlI


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bigcol
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Posted - 17 Nov 2019 :  10:27:33  Show Profile Send bigcol a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Trickyonne

https://youtu.be/M7j75L38PlI





This is a stitch up. This scientist was sacked because he attacked the other more qualified to comment scientists at the same university. Others have rubbished his claims as well. He goes on about sediment and claims to be an expert in it. We i do lawn and garden maintenance for a living and i'm no expert but as a kid i can remember swimming out to close inshore reefs around the Innisfial area when visiting my Aunty. Yep that's right in places you could swim out to the Great Barrier Reef. Yet this muppet says sediment isn't a problem nor is the bleaching. Well **** me. None of those close inshore reefs exists today they are now limestone deposits covered in mud.
Now this was even stitch up in court. Arguably the worst magistrate in Australia heard this case. Salvatore Vasta. Son of former disgraced Judge Angelo Vasta who got done for tax fraud during the Fitzgerald inquiry. Tax fraud is how the got most of the corrupt National Party members behind bars. They found all the income from the corruption but couldn't trace it back far enough to get them for the corruption. (on a side note the serial pest Peter Hoare when he was President of the Falcon Gt Owners Club of Qld owned disgraced Judge Angelo Vasta's XTGT that he bought new and a mate of mine own's it today)
Now this family was so tied up in the National party and is now entrenched in the Liberal party.
What better way to discredit the James Cook Universities findings but to award an unfair dismissal claim against the University.
With Salvatore Vasta at helm of this case the finding was never going to be any different
https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/workplace/like-father-like-son-judge-vasta-in-the-firing-line-20190726-p52ayn


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Trickyonne
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Posted - 17 Nov 2019 :  10:38:58  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Lol...peter Hoare...what ever happened to that guy ?

I’m not a scientist but the guy does make sense and has a lot of evidence

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Jam3s
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Posted - 17 Nov 2019 :  10:49:27  Show Profile Send Jam3s a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

Genuine question here if anyone can answer.

I have been told the ocean temps are rising year on year but then someone showed us a local chart shows this years monthly averages are sitting bout half way (give or take 0.3°c) between the highest years averages and lowest years averages, chart was early 90s-current. Hope this makes sense. Upon seeing this chart they then claimed that the ocean temperatures were rising but then all the ice started to melt which then cooled it back down again.

Is this the go or what? I am either stupid for thinking WTF or they are for saying it.



Can you link these charts you saw?

This data suggests otherwise: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201908
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troy01505
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Posted - 17 Nov 2019 :  19:38:15  Show Profile Send troy01505 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Jam3s

quote:
Originally posted by troy01505

Genuine question here if anyone can answer.

I have been told the ocean temps are rising year on year but then someone showed us a local chart shows this years monthly averages are sitting bout half way (give or take 0.3°c) between the highest years averages and lowest years averages, chart was early 90s-current. Hope this makes sense. Upon seeing this chart they then claimed that the ocean temperatures were rising but then all the ice started to melt which then cooled it back down again.

Is this the go or what? I am either stupid for thinking WTF or they are for saying it.



Can you link these charts you saw?

This data suggests otherwise: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201908



That’s pretty in depth and this was simply just the ocean temps from the same location. The 12 month Chart had the highest, lowest and current year graphed.

I was having dinner and drinks at the local fishing club with some mates and one of my mates mates is the manager. He pulled it from his “office”(apparently an office means his special), old school printed copy. I’ll see if I can get hold of them.

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Posted - 18 Nov 2019 :  10:26:29  Show Profile Send Jam3s a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Well when you get that data from your mates mates mate then let us know.

Doesnt matter anyway though because the real cause of climate change is the legalisation of same sex marriage.
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 18 Nov 2019 :  12:40:53  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Jam3s

Well when you get that data from your mates mates mate then let us know.

Doesnt matter anyway though because the real cause of climate change is the legalisation of same sex marriage.



amen !

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