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Wrighty05
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Posted - 06 Aug 2017 :  00:58:14  Show Profile  Click to see Wrighty05's MSN Messenger address Send Wrighty05 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Very good article about it in Joe Saward's f1 magazine

RIP05

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RIP LJ - loved and never forgotten.

"It was dry for the second go-around. Grice, nervous, worrying about his Bathurst jinx, ran 2:25.9. The amazing Brock, using every last centimetre of bitumen, yet keeping the car straight and balanced and at full noise, came back with a staggering 2:20.0 as if to say: "Match that". And people just shook their heads, bit their lips and wondered who would be second".

The Peter Brock trophy is now where it belongs.
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CP
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Posted - 27 Oct 2017 :  14:44:19  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
https://www.speedcafe.com/2017/10/27/supercars-seeking-govt-funding-kick-off-super5000/

Usually it's the bat and ball sports asking for handouts to launch new programs.
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Fast by Ferracci
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Posted - 27 Oct 2017 :  17:21:38  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
They are kidding themselves expecting a government to stump up for a category that has 2 prototypes and just one car sold
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CP
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Posted - 12 Apr 2018 :  14:49:11  Show Profile  Visit CP's Homepage Send CP a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Is it dead? It has been awfully quiet.

EDIT: It is not dead. It has been reborn.

It is now run under the ARG banner with Matt Braid (Formerly Volvo/Formerly VASC), the man from Payce and the man from Wilson Security.

The Lambden developed ex Formula Nippon chassis will be thrown in the bin, and the entire Super5000 modernisation chassis and driveline will join it.

The somewhat good news is that the Lambden driveline which is the Ford souced V8 and Hollinger gearbox will find a new home, which will be in a chassis built by Onroak, who are known for their Ligier LMP2 and LMP3 cars.

The reason for the dumping of the chassis is that since it isa new open wheeler series, it must have a chassis that can be built with the halo. The ex Formula Nippon car, while still within the FIA safety window with the tub, couldn't be fitted with it.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/08/23/new-s5000-car-revealed-ahead-of-2019-launch/

I'm curious to see how it works. It could be a little funny, and a little bit sad if it drew more entries than F4 and SuperUtes.

Edited by - CP on 23 Aug 2018 15:39:55
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Fast by Ferracci
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Posted - 23 Aug 2018 :  17:26:33  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by CP

It could be a little funny, and a little bit sad if it drew more entries than F4 and SuperUtes.



It needs to draw more entries to;

A) survive in it's own right

B) for open-wheel racing in Australia to have any sort of re-birth. This is the last chance for it.
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oldtimer
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Based on a chassis used for less powerfull engines, it reminds me that Formula 5000 cars were often based on F3 cars of the time.

With 560 hp instead of 270 hp, the cars could be challenging and exciting. They need a Tasman type summer series and some USA F3 drivers, and others from Europe and Asia, will come here to experience the big hp and to bolster their C.V. trying for IndyCar. It will be cheaper than Japan's Super Formula which has some high profile entrants such as RedBull. S5000 will actually have higher nominal power than Japan's Super Formula's 542 hp.

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The V8-powered cars will now be built around a current model Onroak-Ligier carbon fibre tub – used for the new US Formula 3 series – which includes a full safety cell and the Halo head protection device now mandatory in Formula 1.

https://www.motorsport.com/openwheel/news/new-v8-single-seater-series-makes-late-chassis-name-switch/3162415/

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The new American F3 category is designed to offer a series to graduate into from the pre-existing Formula 4 United States Championship.

Its car will be a Ligier Crawford chassis developed by Onroak, and will use a 270bhp Honda Performance Development engine.

This differs from the F4 machine with configurable aero components and increased safety structures.

https://www.autosport.com/f3/news/132504/us-f3-series-launched-car-revealed-with-halo

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The SF14 machines are powered by 2.0-litre, direct injection, mid-mounted turbo inline-four engines produced by manufacturers Honda and Toyota. It outputs 542bhp, and includes a fuel flow restrictor plus a new overtaking system dubbed ‘OTS’.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/heres-how-a-super-formula-car-compares-to-a-formula-1-machine/

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Fast by Ferracci
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Posted - 24 Aug 2018 :  09:27:56  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer

Based on a chassis used for less powerfull engines, it reminds me that Formula 5000 cars were often based on F3 cars of the time.

With 560 hp instead of 270 hp, the cars could be challenging and exciting. They need a Tasman type summer series and some USA F3 drivers, and others from Europe and Asia, will come here to experience the big hp and to bolster their C.V. trying for IndyCar. It will be cheaper than Japan's Super Formula which has some high profile entrants such as RedBull. S5000 will actually have higher nominal power than Japan's Super Formula's 542 hp.



Agree completely

They need to try and sell this in it's own right, not just as a Supercars support category

A Tasman-style Summer series, which was Chris Lambden's original aim with FT5000, sold right would ideally even attract a few Aussies racing overseas coming home for summer
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