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oldtimer
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Posted - 15 Jan 2020 :  11:59:14  Show Profile Send oldtimer a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
It costs a lot less to run an Indycar than a Cup NASCAR.
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“You can run a team [in IndyCar] for $3-4million, depending what you’re paying your driver,” said Penske. “The compact schedule, the fact we’re not spending the money and developing the cars like we are in NASCAR, where – with the changing rule packages – we’re building new cars every week. [In IndyCar] we can do a lot of little things to it, then it comes down to the driver and the strategy.

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Team Penske’s president Tim Cindric clarified the cost difference between America’s leading stock car and open-wheel series at present.

“In NASCAR [Cup, for a season] it’s $20-30m to compete, and [in IndyCar] to compete it’s £3-4million plus driver salary, but to compete at the top level, it’s closer to $7, 8 or 9million. But even if it was $10million, that’s still a third of that [in NASCAR].”


https://au.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/penske-gen7-indycar-cost-control/4364927/

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Posted - 15 Jan 2020 :  14:58:18  Show Profile  Visit JD's Homepage Send JD a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
It does seem likely Scotty may move on in the not to distant future.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/motorsport/scott-mclaughlin-could-make-indycar-debut-in-2020/955a10e6-b6bd-46e3-98ee-f07dfa1b5938
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Posted - 15 Jan 2020 :  18:07:31  Show Profile Send Preditor a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I wonder if he got permission from Ford to drive the Indy car?

I heard there will be a name change to the series next year, the new name is Penske mustang cup series with their major sponsor to be Laxative guarantee to clear any backing up at Bathurst 2020.
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Posted - 15 Jan 2020 :  18:31:34  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
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I wonder if he got permission from Ford to drive the Indy car?


Is he a Ford contracted driver?
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No he is contracted to DJRTP. There is no real allegiance or Ford money being tipped in to him from Ford Oz or globally.

No doubt he will be in the USA in 2021.

But I have to say from a selfish point view (mine) now that we’ve finally found a driver who was the next Marcos Ambrose and someone to really take it up to Whincup and SVG. When SM is gone I believe there is no 8ne else near fast enough to take it up to 888 especially SVG.

I have hopes that ADP may be the next big thing but i think he would have to leave Betty to be able to take it up to 888. Hoping he replaces SM at DJRTP as there have been rumours about contract terminations etc. I did hear him recently say nothing but praise for Betty and the team.

Edited by - FirstOnRaceDay on 15 Jan 2020 19:40:16
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mikeamerica84
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Posted - 16 Jan 2020 :  03:48:25  Show Profile Send mikeamerica84 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by JD

It does seem likely Scotty may move on in the not to distant future.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/motorsport/scott-mclaughlin-could-make-indycar-debut-in-2020/955a10e6-b6bd-46e3-98ee-f07dfa1b5938

This will be something to keep an eye on. It has the potential to gain steam. The debut they are talking about in the article source above is the Grand Prix of Indianapolis, on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway road course early in May to kick off the month of the 500. The course is similar to the old F1 course, but has been modified a tad over the years. The main mod was to remove the banked final corner leading on to the front stretch which lead to the Michelin tire debacle in the USGP F1 race many years back. The round weekend, however, also falls in between Supercars rounds, right after NZ.

The recent public relations problem with this race is that the number of fans showing up to watch it is very poor. Huge sections of grandstands roped off. It is actually embarrassing for IndyCars to air this race with that many open seats. No camera angles can cover it up.

With RP buying the speedway and the series, there will be emphasis on raising car counts over the next few seasons. Perhaps Fernando Alonso, who is lining up a 500 ride with Andretti Autosports, might get involved in this round along with Scotty make it a little more "popular"? Not so much state-side, but world-wide.

The other talk around these parts concerning emphasis is to lure Ford back into IndyCars as a third engine supplier. The latter will not happen this year, but...... who knows. That is not for this thread.

Lots of ifs, whens, and buts. I am not holding my breath - yet.

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Posted - 16 Jan 2020 :  11:52:58  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
If McLaughlin does a few IndyCar races in 2020, there goes his championship campaign in likelihood. Is Coulthard the focus for 2020?
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Posted - 16 Jan 2020 :  14:09:16  Show Profile Send ignition a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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If McLaughlin does a few IndyCar races in 2020, there goes his championship campaign in likelihood. Is Coulthard the focus for 2020?



how have you come to that conclusion? SVG raced overseas many times in his Championship winning year IIRC, this would be no different right?
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Originally posted by ignition

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If McLaughlin does a few IndyCar races in 2020, there goes his championship campaign in likelihood. Is Coulthard the focus for 2020?



how have you come to that conclusion? SVG raced overseas many times in his Championship winning year IIRC, this would be no different right?



It’ll take his focus off the V8s, especially as his eyes will be on going to the USA in 2021 anyway.

SVG was racing overseas in 2016 in a car he knew well, the only thing he needed to learn was the track

McLaughlin would be learning not only an Indycar, but given he has basically no formula car experience, he would be learning a completely new facet of racing. Coupled with the pressure that he will need to impress for any US 2021 campaign.

SVG had none of those pressures in his 2016 Blancpain Endurance Series campaign
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Posted - 16 Jan 2020 :  17:48:44  Show Profile Send joe5619 a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

If McLaughlin does a few IndyCar races in 2020, there goes his championship campaign in likelihood. Is Coulthard the focus for 2020?

What a load of rubbish!!
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Posted - 16 Jan 2020 :  19:18:17  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

If McLaughlin does a few IndyCar races in 2020, there goes his championship campaign in likelihood. Is Coulthard the focus for 2020?



I'd hazard a guess that 3 in a row for Scotty will be the focus...Fabs 5-6th or thereabouts....

That's great, it starts with an earthquake
Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes
And Lenny Bruce is not afraid!
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Posted - 16 Jan 2020 :  21:19:20  Show Profile Send Fast by Ferracci a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by joe5619

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Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

If McLaughlin does a few IndyCar races in 2020, there goes his championship campaign in likelihood. Is Coulthard the focus for 2020?

What a load of rubbish!!



Is it?

In an era of specialisation, you think a program of races in foreign cars on the other side of the world won’t affect a championship campaign down here?

The last Penske driver to switch codes with the organisation didn’t have a very successful transition year as reigning champion, and that was all happening within the one country ....

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quote:
Originally posted by Fast by Ferracci

If McLaughlin does a few IndyCar races in 2020, there goes his championship campaign in likelihood. Is Coulthard the focus for 2020?



I'd hazard a guess that 3 in a row for Scotty will be the focus...Fabs 5-6th or thereabouts....



If they give him a few Indycar races in 2020 with a view to going to the US full-time in 2021, I don’t see how that won’t take the focus off a 2020 V8 campaign
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Posted - 16 Jan 2020 :  22:02:43  Show Profile  Visit JD's Homepage Send JD a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
At a guess I'd say the Penske Indy Car shown will have Scotty aboard and he's not hanging around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMtbDd-BkiE
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Posted - 17 Jan 2020 :  06:14:29  Show Profile Send REM a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Plans in place? https://autoaction.com.au/2020/01/17/brown-promotion-hints-at-mclaughlin-exit?fbclid=IwAR3_IwlmyItX4mB_-QfgEGG1MQ0O2GEZzMa8Cyfhu026BJpuVh4MzIH1Hhk

That's great, it starts with an earthquake
Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes
And Lenny Bruce is not afraid!
"Remember that in the end nobody wins, unless everybody wins!" Springsteen BTR.


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Posted - 17 Jan 2020 :  09:46:14  Show Profile Send skaifeman a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by REM

Plans in place? https://autoaction.com.au/2020/01/17/brown-promotion-hints-at-mclaughlin-exit?fbclid=IwAR3_IwlmyItX4mB_-QfgEGG1MQ0O2GEZzMa8Cyfhu026BJpuVh4MzIH1Hhk


It makes that Penske seat all the more valuable.
Do a (seriously) good job and Supercars will just be a feeder category to the US.


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