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Trickyonne
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Where did he come from if nothing can't produce anything.


from my understanding, he is the beginning...and yes I know its hard to get your head around
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Then who produced God?


he is the alpha and the omega...the beginning and the end


That’s how my wife describes me

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Gravity is still a theory...relativity is still a theory. If you don't understand what theory means in a scientific context, don't even bring it up.


Incorrect as far as I know...its a theory because to be proven it needs to be reproduced, which it cant because it goes against the laws of science.

nothing cant produce anything

as mentioned earlier, were did the energy and the information come from ?

No scientific theory can be proven. They can only be disproved, at which point a new or adjusted theory is needed.

There was never "nothing". The universe was always there, just in a different form. All the matter and energy in the universe was there.

You say God is the beginning...perhaps the universe itself (or the singularity it was prior to the Big Bang) is the beginning.
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Originally posted by Kytabu

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Gravity is still a theory...relativity is still a theory. If you don't understand what theory means in a scientific context, don't even bring it up.


Incorrect as far as I know...its a theory because to be proven it needs to be reproduced, which it cant because it goes against the laws of science.

nothing cant produce anything

as mentioned earlier, were did the energy and the information come from ?

No scientific theory can be proven. They can only be disproved, at which point a new or adjusted theory is needed.

There was never "nothing". The universe was always there, just in a different form. All the matter and energy in the universe was there.

You say God is the beginning...perhaps the universe itself (or the singularity it was prior to the Big Bang) is the beginning.


So what are the origins of the energy and information ?...science tells us that everything needs a beginning
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Kytabu
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Where does science tell us that? Science is perfectly comfortable with the idea of the universe always being here, whether it was a previous universe that collapsed and expanded again, or maybe it existed outside of time and space.

I'm not a physicist, but from what I understand, all energy was contained in the singularity; where the singularity came from would be impossible to know. At the Big Bang, the energy was released with some being converted to matter. These matter particles eventually formed the fundamental particles we know today. Oh, and the dark matter and dark energy.

The origin of information is an interesting one...one would have to specify exactly what constitutes information (is it the written word, a wave of EMR, a smell, a sound?).
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its interesting stuff..information like DNA for example

Frank turek and Ravi zaccarius are good at debating evolution
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The origin of DNA is way over my education, haha, but a quick Google search suggests DNA formed out of RNA, which may have been formed in some sort of reaction or variation of molecules present in Earth's early history. There does not seem to be any conclusive idea on its origins, though, but we must keep researching!
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The origin of DNA is way over my education, haha, but a quick Google search suggests DNA formed out of RNA, which may have been formed in some sort of reaction or variation of molecules present in Earth's early history. There does not seem to be any conclusive idea on its origins, though, but we must keep researching!


True mate

So from what you are saying, you would need faith to believe evolution right ?
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Absolutely. The same faith I have that every time I take a step, gravity will keep me attached to Earth. The same faith I have that when I start my car, petrol and oxygen will react explosively and propel the car.

The difference is that evolution takes place over such large time scales that it is difficult for a single person to see its effects within their lifetime. I think that's why people have trouble trusting it.
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and this is a problem for religion...schools teaching a theory as fact




That is gold, claiming religion if fact bbwwaahhahaha
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and this is a problem for religion...schools teaching a theory as fact




That is gold, claiming religion if fact bbwwaahhahaha


were did I say that ?
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Where did he come from if nothing can't produce anything.


from my understanding, he is the beginning...and yes I know its hard to get your head around
Your understanding? Not hard to get ones head around blind faith. That's the easy way out. Faith built on knowledge, now that is a powerful combination.
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Trickyonne
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Posted - 03 Dec 2019 :  18:11:29  Show Profile Send Trickyonne a Private Message  Reply with Quote Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by AlbertM

Where did he come from if nothing can't produce anything.


from my understanding, he is the beginning...and yes I know its hard to get your head around
Your understanding? Not hard to get ones head around blind faith. That's the easy way out. Faith built on knowledge, now that is a powerful combination.


True alby...very true
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