https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/federal-ministers-fly-to-canberra-amid-big-us-australia-news-announcement/news-story/72b68a5756b0acb81845137c8157951b (https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/federal-ministers-fly-to-canberra-amid-big-us-australia-news-announcement/news-story/72b68a5756b0acb81845137c8157951b)
About time, and all the "Climate Alarmist" should be happy too as these subs will have zero emissions.
Why do we need these Subs at all?
It will be interesting to see what this really means. I have thought for years that we should be buying US submarines - they're proven and The US have been a long term ally. But there's little detail here as to what subs we're actually getting/building.
The French option just reeks of a another Collins class disaster.
Quote from: AlbertM on September 16, 2021, 10:43:23 AM
Why do we need these Subs at all?
Probably come in handy when China come to take the last small percentage of land and industry they don't have in their possession yet.
Oh wait, the government will give them to that!
Quote from: Troy01505 on September 16, 2021, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on September 16, 2021, 10:43:23 AM
Why do we need these Subs at all?
Probably come in handy when China come to take the last small percentage of land and industry they don't have in their possession yet.
Oh wait, the government will give them to that!
Exactly. China is a major trading partner. They don't have to invade to get what they want.
BTW I was on for a argument until I read your last line. 8)
Just waiting now for the announcement that the Port of Darwin lease has been torn up. Can't see that being allowed to continue once the subs are here
What happens to all the billions we paid the French to re engineer them to run on truck fuel?
$2.8Billion down the drain.
Quote from: AlbertM on September 17, 2021, 10:17:34 AM
$2.8Billion down the drain.
Better than spending $80-90 Billion over the next 15 yrs and then finding out it is a lemon (which by most indicators it will be).
Agreed
A boon for Adelaide. A boon for your country. This could maybe lead to nuclear electrical generating plants, but that will take more citizen buy-in.
Carbon free, gents. It is the profession I have been in since 1978.
Aussie are nuclear-phobic when it comes to having it anywhere habitable. Still too many "simple folk" that can't get their head around the science.
Quote from: AlbertM on September 19, 2021, 12:57:44 PM
Aussie are nuclear-phobic when it comes to having it anywhere habitable. Still too many "simple folk" that can't get their head around the science.
Oh I know of that whole deal, Albert.
What will be interesting, though, is the Aussie sailors will have to be trained in nuclear propulsion. I wonder if they are just going to ship them over here and train them in the States where we already have the schools and the land-based prototype propulsion units. Or even send them the Great Britain?
When I was in the Navy we had prototype units in three different parts of the country. They were mockups of actual ship/boat nuclear plants. Then they scrapped that idea in the late '90s and moved everything to Charleston, SC. Took a couple of old fleet ballistic missile subs, tied them up to the pier, and actually just used THEM for the hands on training. Instead of having a screw (propeller) they just used a water brake rig.
It will be interesting to see how and where they train these squids. I'm excited for them all.
Quote from: AlbertM on September 19, 2021, 12:57:44 PM
Aussie are nuclear-phobic when it comes to having it anywhere habitable. Still too many "simple folk" that can't get their head around the science.
The Greens are the worst for being nuclear-phobic, they should be the ones pushing for it.
There is talk of leasing US subs until ours are built. So I would imagine Aussie crews would be trained on the job.
USA or UK!
The UK New Subs are cheaper new than the USA version.
The UK is also in the process of upgrading it's fleet, and the replaced one's seem pretty good.
Whoever we buy from, they will certainly be happy to provide a sub or subs and use our base or bases and provide training.
It will probably be cheaper than keeping the Collins design going.
If it is USA, I hope they allow the Sub contract to cancel out some of the orders for the dud new fighter.
PS: One current Australian Senator has worked as crew on a USA Nuclear Sub.
Quote from: AlbertM on September 20, 2021, 02:31:01 PM
There is talk of leasing US subs until ours are built. So I would imagine Aussie crews would be trained on the job.
I would assume like the RAAF has exchange programs with the USAF the RAN will send submariners over to play with the USN.
It must have been a topic in the old V8 Central forum about nuclear power?
Anyway Mike, does this look familiar to you. I'm sure you've mentioned it in the past?
https://www.netflix.com/watch/81241561?trackId=15035895
Quote from: murph_fan51 on May 08, 2022, 12:14:21 PM
It must have been a topic in the old V8 Central forum about nuclear power?
Anyway Mike, does this look familiar to you. I'm sure you've mentioned it in the past?
https://www.netflix.com/watch/81241561?trackId=15035895
I remember TMI very well, murph. I was 19 years old and at Navy Nuclear Power School in March of 1979 when they had their accident, wondering what profession I got myself into. This accident revolutionized the training for commercial nuclear power plant operators. I have yet to watch the Netflix series, but have worked with a few that were at TMI on that day, including the control room supervisor when it happened.
Ironically, the movie "The China Syndrome" came out just before said accident. All anyone not in the profession knew about nuclear power then was from that movie. It was a HUGE blockbuster.
Timing is everything.
Not sure if I'd even heard of The China Syndrome but must see that sometime. Growing up in the 90s with only free-to-air TV was no way to live. The selection of movies they played was far too narrow.
I like the film God's Puzzle which is about a particle accelerator and came out at about the same as all the headlines suggesting the Large Hadron Collider might destroy Earth. Based on its impeccable timing, perhaps it should've been a blockbuster, but it wasn't!