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Title: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on November 22, 2021, 05:40:03 AM
Not long to go now

Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Troy01505 on November 22, 2021, 06:53:39 AM
Quote from: Trevor on November 22, 2021, 05:40:03 AM
Not long to go now

Nope, let's hope it doesn't rain to much.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on November 22, 2021, 08:47:21 AM
that's ok. they can red flag it and then restart it and then red flag it and then restart it....
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on November 22, 2021, 11:59:02 AM
I am packing my Drizabone Heavy Duty Riding Coat just to be sure

We are pretty happy with our camp sites - 1 camp spot back from the track (with the road in between)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on November 22, 2021, 12:10:59 PM
Still a bit of squabble to happen in the Championship too. 3rd is hot between Davison and Mostert.
10th is contested between, realistically, 5 cars.

Anton can jump up a few spots too.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on November 22, 2021, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: Trevor on November 22, 2021, 11:59:02 AM
I am packing my Drizabone Heavy Duty Riding Coat just to be sure

We are pretty happy with our camp sites - 1 camp spot back from the track (with the road in between)

Ditto to that. Never leave for Bathurst without the drizabone!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on November 24, 2021, 07:49:13 AM
Enjoy Trev.....I've decided not to go.....the odds of a SVG domination/snore fest are too high to warrant the trip(Shared by my mates- "Nah- not bothering this year!"). And compounding the ZB straight line advantage, the Shell cars don't have the co-drivers to be really competitive and Tickford went missing in May.   You could get 10 degrees or you could get 35 degrees.... would love to have seen a certain XD rip around the track...certainly will be lots to follow.....
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on November 24, 2021, 08:11:58 AM
Yeah, we debated whether we should go, but we had roll-over tickets from last year, plus the atmosphere is great AND as an added bonus I get to spend the weekend watching motorsport with my 2 sons and a mate
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on November 24, 2021, 09:01:21 AM
Wow-wee - Anton has given some of the most dominant weekends this year over the previous 4 rounds and they're no chance at the big one! ...Fickle? ;D

Weather looking increasingly bad, I'll be following your lead Trev, taking a few rain jackets.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on November 24, 2021, 10:16:45 AM
Quote from: REM on November 24, 2021, 07:49:13 AM
Enjoy Trev.....I've decided not to go.....the odds of a SVG domination/snore fest are too high to warrant the trip(Shared by my mates- "Nah- not bothering this year!"). And compounding the ZB straight line advantage, the Shell cars don't have the co-drivers to be really competitive and Tickford went missing in May.   You could get 10 degrees or you could get 35 degrees.... would love to have seen a certain XD rip around the track...certainly will be lots to follow.....

got some support category magic to watch though.

first S5000 races up there is gonna be epic!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on November 24, 2021, 10:20:22 AM
Are the 5000's as good as the early 5000's - the version with a carby I mean
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: stevo qld on November 24, 2021, 10:54:48 AM
Quote from: Trevor on November 24, 2021, 10:20:22 AM
Are the 5000's as good as the early 5000's - the version with a carby I mean

Most of the old F5000's were rather flimsy and dangerous for drivers. e.g. "The Lola Limp".

The new ones are safer for the drivers, even if one can't weld one up in the back shed. If they have 18 cars, it is a pity that so many aren't being used.

In a similar way, Supercars are much safer for drivers.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on November 24, 2021, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Trevor on November 24, 2021, 10:20:22 AM
Are the 5000's as good as the early 5000's - the version with a carby I mean

I was trackside (accred photographer) at the Sandown round. The noise is not as RAWR!!!! as the F5000 category but they are still very cool to be up close to.

I think if the grid can get up to at least 20 with quality drivers it will be a ripsnorter.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on November 25, 2021, 06:36:33 PM
There I was thinking the real battle will be for the 3rd spot on the podium after the two RedBull cars.....but apparently, it's the most wide open Bathurst ever! :D

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/just-two-of-the-same-most-wide-open-bathurst-ever/?fbclid=IwAR2sq4EXmNi9_RsdQbf2qOwi8DPr9hnhdlVTjvPPbzJ70kb7t_2XGr6wd7g
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Zac on November 25, 2021, 07:35:25 PM
M'boy, you're going to do yourself psychological damage obsessing about this perceived 888 advantage. I would have thought recent best qualifying, fastest laps and race wins by your #11 car might have helped cure you.  :o
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on November 25, 2021, 07:40:17 PM
That was their bogey track Zac....T8 & SVG still amassed the most points across the 4 weekends..
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on November 25, 2021, 11:58:28 PM
I know the best way to settle this, REM and Zac:  Stand back-to-back, take six paces, turn, and FIRE in the tipping contest we are going to have on the Fantasy Thread.   ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on November 26, 2021, 09:08:00 AM
currently looking at driving route to Bathurst looks to be only one road in/out ATM that's open? even Sydney cut off?

any local Forum readers can advise on camping grounds situation especially Max Cameron as its at the bottom of the mountain?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on November 26, 2021, 09:26:55 AM
Quote from: fordman on November 26, 2021, 09:08:00 AM
currently looking at driving route to Bathurst looks to be only one road in/out ATM that's open? even Sydney cut off?
Where are you looking? For me, the Great Western Highway is fine on Live Traffic NSW apart from a water over the road notice just outside Bathurst, but there are no closures.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on November 26, 2021, 09:36:41 AM
Quote from: fordman on November 26, 2021, 09:08:00 AM
currently looking at driving route to Bathurst looks to be only one road in/out ATM that's open? even Sydney cut off?

any local Forum readers can advise on camping grounds situation especially Max Cameron as its at the bottom of the mountain?
where are you driving from?

It is a bit hard to tell you how to get there if we don't know where you are coming from
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on November 26, 2021, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: REM on November 25, 2021, 07:40:17 PM
That was their bogey track Zac....T8 & SVG still amassed the most points across the 4 weekends..

Only due to DJR putting wrong tyres on the car. Take out that DQ, guess who likely wins - AdP says himself:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/23/de-pasquales-take-on-saturday-duels-sunday-washout/

Granted that DJR have had the running at SMP for a while now, but you can't discount their form heading into Bathurst. AdP was 5 tenths up for pretty well all 4 weekends!!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on November 26, 2021, 10:43:30 AM
Quote from: Trevor on November 26, 2021, 09:36:41 AM
Quote from: fordman on November 26, 2021, 09:08:00 AM
currently looking at driving route to Bathurst looks to be only one road in/out ATM that's open? even Sydney cut off?

any local Forum readers can advise on camping grounds situation especially Max Cameron as its at the bottom of the mountain?
where are you driving from?

It is a bit hard to tell you how to get there if we don't know where you are coming from

Grafton North coast NSW
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on November 26, 2021, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: Kytabu on November 26, 2021, 09:26:55 AM
Quote from: fordman on November 26, 2021, 09:08:00 AM
currently looking at driving route to Bathurst looks to be only one road in/out ATM that's open? even Sydney cut off?
Where are you looking? For me, the Great Western Highway is fine on Live Traffic NSW apart from a water over the road notice just outside Bathurst, but there are no closures.

yes saw that but what do the say if its flooded forget it??? Bathurst just had 40mils already today maybe bit more the water over the road?  but reports should ease off today/tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on November 26, 2021, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: skaifeman on November 26, 2021, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: REM on November 25, 2021, 07:40:17 PM
That was their bogey track Zac....T8 & SVG still amassed the most points across the 4 weekends..

Only due to DJR putting wrong tyres on the car. Take out that DQ, guess who likely wins - AdP says himself:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/23/de-pasquales-take-on-saturday-duels-sunday-washout/

Granted that DJR have had the running at SMP for a while now, but you can't discount their form heading into Bathurst. AdP was 5 tenths up for pretty well all 4 weekends!!

Fair points to consider, but I think the ZB has a better areo package, particularly for high speed straight line stuff, the ZB is also better in the wet and has a broader set up window,  T8 have far better co-drivers, the 6 has the best driver combo in the Fords, but the speed is missing now and Tickford have gone backwards since May.....I really think it is a forgone conclusion that one of the T8 cars will win, they typically do win Bathurst and they are the most dominant they have looked in the last 5 years.....
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on November 26, 2021, 11:50:15 AM
Quote from: REM on November 26, 2021, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: skaifeman on November 26, 2021, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: REM on November 25, 2021, 07:40:17 PM
That was their bogey track Zac....T8 & SVG still amassed the most points across the 4 weekends..

Only due to DJR putting wrong tyres on the car. Take out that DQ, guess who likely wins - AdP says himself:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/23/de-pasquales-take-on-saturday-duels-sunday-washout/

Granted that DJR have had the running at SMP for a while now, but you can't discount their form heading into Bathurst. AdP was 5 tenths up for pretty well all 4 weekends!!

Fair points to consider, but I think the ZB has a better areo package, particularly for high speed straight line stuff, the ZB is also better in the wet and has a broader set up window,  T8 have far better co-drivers, the 6 has the best driver combo in the Fords, but the speed is missing now and Tickford have gone backwards since May.....I really think it is a forgone conclusion that one of the T8 cars will win, they typically do win Bathurst and they are the most dominant they have looked in the last 5 years.....

if you are going to say a Commie is going to win I wouldn't rub one of the Erebus cars out of the equation. both main gamers have shown some grit this year!

and you can imagine the party if Erebus takes it out!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on November 26, 2021, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: Sonic on November 26, 2021, 11:50:15 AM
Quote from: REM on November 26, 2021, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: skaifeman on November 26, 2021, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: REM on November 25, 2021, 07:40:17 PM
That was their bogey track Zac....T8 & SVG still amassed the most points across the 4 weekends..

Only due to DJR putting wrong tyres on the car. Take out that DQ, guess who likely wins - AdP says himself:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/23/de-pasquales-take-on-saturday-duels-sunday-washout/

Granted that DJR have had the running at SMP for a while now, but you can't discount their form heading into Bathurst. AdP was 5 tenths up for pretty well all 4 weekends!!

Fair points to consider, but I think the ZB has a better areo package, particularly for high speed straight line stuff, the ZB is also better in the wet and has a broader set up window,  T8 have far better co-drivers, the 6 has the best driver combo in the Fords, but the speed is missing now and Tickford have gone backwards since May.....I really think it is a forgone conclusion that one of the T8 cars will win, they typically do win Bathurst and they are the most dominant they have looked in the last 5 years.....

if you are going to say a Commie is going to win I wouldn't rub one of the Erebus cars out of the equation. both main gamers have shown some grit this year!

and you can imagine the party if Erebus takes it out!

Definite podium chance, and if it has to be a ZB...one of them for sure...Brodie is one of the few who will stand up to SVG.... a win is unlikely though...
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on November 26, 2021, 12:37:33 PM
T8 to head the field all weekend long IMO.  But on an outside chance, the way Sladey ran the first race of the year before his shunt, I wonder if he will factor in qually.  With Blanchard as his co-driver, any RACE success is out the window.

I think Mostert and Holdsworth are a good combo, though.  Just as good as any T8 pairing.

Other good pairings are Courtney and Randle, Frosty and Caruso, ADP and Tony D', & Brown and Perkins.

This is such a great race and anticipation leading up to it.  I am so grateful we have the social media/internet nowadays so us Yanks over here can follow this flag-to-flag.  I cannot WAIT!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Zac on November 26, 2021, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on November 25, 2021, 11:58:28 PM
I know the best way to settle this, REM and Zac:  Stand back-to-back, take six paces, turn, and FIRE in the tipping contest we are going to have on the Fantasy Thread.   ;D
Thanks for your invitation Mike, but I'm a hopeless tipster and I don't think REM's much better. REM however, has predicted  1-2s for the two 888 cars regularly, so you already know what he'd have at the top of his predictions - and just like a stopped clock, he's been right on occasions. He's so biased towards those 888 cars though, it's hard to take him seriously. He's a thoroughly good bloke, but his love affair with Holden, 888 and SVG wears a bit thin sometimes. You should try spending a few days at the track with him.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on November 26, 2021, 02:57:58 PM
forget everything you think you know about next week at Bathurst... just did a long range weather check and so far we have...

Tue - 22 and thunderstorms
Wed - 24 and thunderstorms
Thu - 26 and rain
Fri - 25 and thunderstorms

now I know that the weather predictors don't have a clue but that ain't a pretty outlook!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on November 26, 2021, 03:36:20 PM
Quote from: Sonic on November 26, 2021, 02:57:58 PM
forget everything you think you know about next week at Bathurst... just did a long range weather check and so far we have...

Tue - 22 and thunderstorms
Wed - 24 and thunderstorms
Thu - 26 and rain
Fri - 25 and thunderstorms

now I know that the weather predictors don't have a clue but that ain't a pretty outlook!

Been looking at it every couple of hours hoping it will change, just hope its not iike 2012 I think where they closed the general car park and bussed everyone in and the campgrounds were a boggy mess? but since them the roads in max cameron anyway are much improved but not tested in prolonged rain.



Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on November 26, 2021, 04:14:59 PM
Quote from: fordman on November 26, 2021, 03:36:20 PM
Quote from: Sonic on November 26, 2021, 02:57:58 PM
forget everything you think you know about next week at Bathurst... just did a long range weather check and so far we have...

Tue - 22 and thunderstorms
Wed - 24 and thunderstorms
Thu - 26 and rain
Fri - 25 and thunderstorms

now I know that the weather predictors don't have a clue but that ain't a pretty outlook!

Been looking at it every couple of hours hoping it will change, just hope its not iike 2012 I think where they closed the general car park and bussed everyone in and the campgrounds were a boggy mess? but since them the roads in max cameron anyway are much improved but not tested in prolonged rain.

Yeah if we get that kind of rain over the 6 days the main car park will def get closed as it will be a bog alright!

And if it does storm like that I feel sorry for the folk who are in tents! Vans won't fair so badly but those sleeping on the ground will cop it
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on November 26, 2021, 04:27:35 PM
Quote from: Sonic on November 26, 2021, 04:14:59 PM
Quote from: fordman on November 26, 2021, 03:36:20 PM
Quote from: Sonic on November 26, 2021, 02:57:58 PM
forget everything you think you know about next week at Bathurst... just did a long range weather check and so far we have...

Tue - 22 and thunderstorms
Wed - 24 and thunderstorms
Thu - 26 and rain
Fri - 25 and thunderstorms

now I know that the weather predictors don't have a clue but that ain't a pretty outlook!

Been looking at it every couple of hours hoping it will change, just hope its not iike 2012 I think where they closed the general car park and bussed everyone in and the campgrounds were a boggy mess? but since them the roads in max cameron anyway are much improved but not tested in prolonged rain.

Yeah if we get that kind of rain over the 6 days the main car park will def get closed as it will be a bog alright!

And if it does storm like that I feel sorry for the folk who are in tents! Vans won't fair so badly but those sleeping on the ground will cop it

not sure we will get that but already wet ground it will bog up quickly.

I hope there is some dry running from memory I think 2012 v8s nearly ran out of wet tyres during the lead up and some teams pondered not practicing  so they could save some for the race but ironically the race was dry and they had nearly all new sets of dry tyres to run on?


Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on November 27, 2021, 12:24:28 AM
Quote from: Trevor on November 22, 2021, 11:59:02 AM
We are pretty happy with our camp sites - 1 camp spot back from the track (with the road in between)
Out of curiosity, where about the track is your camp site, Trev?  I was looking at a google map of the circuit.  Are you up on top, down towards the Chase, or in the middle somehow?  Just trying to picture it all.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on November 27, 2021, 05:11:16 AM
We are in Reid & Sulman Camp site Mike, which at the top of the Mountain

Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on November 27, 2021, 08:50:56 AM
Quote from: Trevor on November 27, 2021, 05:11:16 AM
We are in Reid & Sulman Camp site Mike, which at the top of the Mountain
Looks like a good spot. 

To change the subject a bit, but stay on the thread topic, I reviewed the schedule for the week.  I knew TCR was racing their final round.  Three races.  21 laps each.  I then noticed the Super 2 races are only 16 laps each. 

Is it me or would you guys expect the Super 2 races to be longer than the TCR races?  I think of Super 2 as being a little higher up on the ladder for the undercard(s).  I like the TCR, don't get me wrong, but that is my viewpoint.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: stevo qld on November 27, 2021, 12:19:09 PM
I wouldn't.

TCR is the most competitive manufacturer supported Motor Racing series in Australia, with a large diversity of cars and drivers and international support. The Bathurst meeting was, I understand, extended to enable additional TCR and support categories.

Super2 is only a race for old Supercars, but, in any case, history suggests that crashes will greatly reduce the allocated race laps. These are expensive cars to run and are a financial problem with worn out expensive engines and replacement of parts. The engines are claimed to be too expensive even for Super1 teams, who are looking at cheaper alternatives. Some engine builders such as WAU have trouble finding parts for obsolete engines and have difficulty understanding what to use in the build. e.g. Exclusion from races of a customer.

Longer Super 2 races would be great, though.

There are a significant multitude of classes competing, maybe too many.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on November 27, 2021, 01:17:12 PM
Quote from: stevo qld on November 27, 2021, 12:19:09 PM
I wouldn't.

TCR is the most competitive manufacturer supported Motor Racing series in Australia, with a large diversity of cars and drivers and international support. The Bathurst meeting was, I understand, extended to enable additional TCR and support categories.

Super2 is only a race for old Supercars, but, in any case, history suggests that crashes will greatly reduce the allocated race laps. These are expensive cars to run and are a financial problem with worn out expensive engines and replacement of parts. The engines are claimed to be too expensive even for Super1 teams, who are looking at cheaper alternatives. Some engine builders such as WAU have trouble finding parts for obsolete engines and have difficulty understanding what to use in the build. e.g. Exclusion from races of a customer.

Longer Super 2 races would be great, though.

There are a significant multitude of classes competing, maybe too many.

no lunch break helps and revised schedule has slightly earlier start times. but like all Bathurst events 1 prang usually stuffs the session for the support categories.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Westfield on November 27, 2021, 09:14:53 PM
Seems to be some misunderstanding of who the new owners are, what classes they control, and how the extended meeting was able to proceed. No bias here, just ask Adderton and Terry.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on November 28, 2021, 05:24:33 AM
Probably not the right place for that discussion - isn't there a 'new Supercar owners' thread?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on November 30, 2021, 09:32:39 AM
I just opened Foxtel Go to watch some sneaky practice sessions from my desk at work only to find nothing from today is broadcast?

What's the point of making such a big deal about 6 days of on track action if they aren't broadcasting it?

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on November 30, 2021, 09:35:36 AM
Yeah- disappointing nothing on today!! :-(  Not even live timing on Speedcafe.....
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on November 30, 2021, 09:54:02 AM
Plus, they made a big deal about the Bathurst channel, I watched it from 3pm yesterday, I saw the top ten Bathurst races countdown (which included 2010 which was a joke), the Bathurst preview and the Whincup interview... All of which were then played on repeat... And are played on repeat again today...

I guess I shouldn't have been surprised that I'm being let down by Fox Motorsport/SupercarsTV again...

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on November 30, 2021, 10:04:45 AM
Supercars TV is a farce - the biggest single reason why fans are walking away - yet the idiots don't get it
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on November 30, 2021, 11:42:59 AM
Just arrived in Bathurst, the weather is gorgeous at the moment. Glad we get to put our tent up in the dry.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on November 30, 2021, 12:41:47 PM
Please make sure it stays dry until Thursday arvo  ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Alan59 on November 30, 2021, 01:59:10 PM
Quote from: Kytabu on November 30, 2021, 11:42:59 AM
Just arrived in Bathurst, the weather is gorgeous at the moment. Glad we get to put our tent up in the dry.
Big question is how muddy are the campgrounds and access roads in them?I am up at Reid/Sulman from Friday.Always going to be better than the campgrounds at the bottom of the mountain but I can picture churned mud.
The forecast for the rest of the week is actually pretty good now particularly from Thursday on (touch wood).
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on November 30, 2021, 02:06:15 PM
Quote from: Alan59 on November 30, 2021, 01:59:10 PM
The forecast for the rest of the week is actually pretty good now particularly from Thursday on (touch wood).
that is good news
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on November 30, 2021, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: Alan59 on November 30, 2021, 01:59:10 PM
Quote from: Kytabu on November 30, 2021, 11:42:59 AM
Just arrived in Bathurst, the weather is gorgeous at the moment. Glad we get to put our tent up in the dry.
Big question is how muddy are the campgrounds and access roads in them?I am up at Reid/Sulman from Friday.Always going to be better than the campgrounds at the bottom of the mountain but I can picture churned mud.
The forecast for the rest of the week is actually pretty good now particularly from Thursday on (touch wood).
McPhillamy campgrounds are fine, no issues at all for us.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on November 30, 2021, 06:49:57 PM
Great Tuesday arvo! Playing some cricket on the track at McPhillamy and got Hazelwood to bat and Le Brocq to wicketkeep ;D. A few of the others drivers had a throw on some other guys' beer pong table.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on November 30, 2021, 07:33:10 PM
SVG and GT to run the 888- some people are not happy!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on November 30, 2021, 07:38:10 PM
How about some pics, guys!  Make this Yank feel like he is THERE!   ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on November 30, 2021, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on November 30, 2021, 07:38:10 PM
How about some pics, guys!  Make this Yank feel like he is THERE!   ;D
No track pics yet but here's a campsite shot.
(https://i.ibb.co/v3RD5Kc/20211130-142533.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Roadways6 on November 30, 2021, 08:46:22 PM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 07:33:10 PM
SVG and GT to run the 888- some people are not happy!

I don't understand why anyone would object?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on November 30, 2021, 09:10:07 PM
Quote from: Kytabu on November 30, 2021, 06:49:57 PM
Great Tuesday arvo! Playing some cricket on the track at McPhillamy and got Hazelwood to bat and Le Brocq to wicketkeep ;D. A few of the others drivers had a throw on some other guys' beer pong table.

I saw some photos of that on Todd Hazelwood's Insta!

Is that your RS in that pic above?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on November 30, 2021, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 07:33:10 PM
SVG and GT to run the 888- some people are not happy!

Let me guess, it's because it's Lowndes number?...LOL!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on November 30, 2021, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on November 30, 2021, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 07:33:10 PM
SVG and GT to run the 888- some people are not happy!

Let me guess, it's because it's Lowndes number?...LOL!
seems so...it's RD's team, he can do what he likes! :)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: stevo qld on December 01, 2021, 12:47:00 AM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on November 30, 2021, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 07:33:10 PM
SVG and GT to run the 888- some people are not happy!

Let me guess, it's because it's Lowndes number?...LOL!
seems so...it's RD's team, he can do what he likes! :)

All the reports indicate that RD was not consulted. It was cooked up by the team as a thank you.

Also, 888 team is no longer owned by RD who remains a minor shareholder.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 01, 2021, 04:52:55 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on November 30, 2021, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 07:33:10 PM
SVG and GT to run the 888- some people are not happy!

Let me guess, it's because it's Lowndes number?...LOL!
so was 00, he has also run with 1, 015, 15
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on December 01, 2021, 06:48:34 AM
Quote from: stevo qld on December 01, 2021, 12:47:00 AM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on November 30, 2021, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 07:33:10 PM
SVG and GT to run the 888- some people are not happy!

Let me guess, it's because it's Lowndes number?...LOL!
seems so...it's RD's team, he can do what he likes! :)

All the reports indicate that RD was not consulted. It was cooked up by the team as a thank you.

Also, 888 team is no longer owned by RD who remains a minor shareholder.

Even so, I still expect that RD would have more say over the cars presentation than Lowndes..... ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 01, 2021, 07:00:46 AM
Quote from: REM on December 01, 2021, 06:48:34 AM
Quote from: stevo qld on December 01, 2021, 12:47:00 AM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on November 30, 2021, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 07:33:10 PM
SVG and GT to run the 888- some people are not happy!

Let me guess, it's because it's Lowndes number?...LOL!
seems so...it's RD's team, he can do what he likes! :)


All the reports indicate that RD was not consulted. It was cooked up by the team as a thank you.

Also, 888 team is no longer owned by RD who remains a minor shareholder.

Even so, I still expect that RD would have more say over the cars presentation than Lowndes..... ;)

Lowndes is like a prostitute, gives his all for whoever pays the $$$$$  - good ol' 'smile for the camera Lowndes'  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

He learnt all his (self) promotion/marketing skills from Brock, who mastered it
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 01, 2021, 09:03:52 AM
Quote from: TheArrow on November 30, 2021, 09:10:07 PM
Quote from: Kytabu on November 30, 2021, 06:49:57 PM
Great Tuesday arvo! Playing some cricket on the track at McPhillamy and got Hazelwood to bat and Le Brocq to wicketkeep ;D. A few of the others drivers had a throw on some other guys' beer pong table.

I saw some photos of that on Todd Hazelwood's Insta!

Is that your RS in that pic above?
Sure is!

Couple more photos for you, Mike. Touring Car Masters at McPhillamy Park.
(https://i.ibb.co/1vgv5M0/20211201-085808.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/GcZ5tMB/20211201-090032.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on December 01, 2021, 10:32:16 AM
Quote from: Kytabu on November 30, 2021, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on November 30, 2021, 07:38:10 PM
How about some pics, guys!  Make this Yank feel like he is THERE!   ;D
No track pics yet but here's a campsite shot.
(https://i.ibb.co/v3RD5Kc/20211130-142533.jpg)
Now THAT'S what I call high end camping, Kye!  I'd 'recognize' that V8CFL Ford from a mile away!

Thanks for all of the pics from atop the Mountain.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Alan59 on December 01, 2021, 10:37:13 AM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on December 01, 2021, 10:32:16 AM
Quote from: Kytabu on November 30, 2021, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on November 30, 2021, 07:38:10 PM
How about some pics, guys!  Make this Yank feel like he is THERE!   ;D
No track pics yet but here's a campsite shot.
(https://i.ibb.co/v3RD5Kc/20211130-142533.jpg)
Now THAT'S what I call high end camping, Kye!  I'd 'recognize' that V8CFL Ford from a mile away!

Thanks for all of the pics from atop the Mountain.
There are some camping set ups at the top of the Mountain that are so elaborate I'm sure they have to lodge Development Applications with Bathurst Council.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 01, 2021, 10:37:26 AM
Quote from: stevo qld on December 01, 2021, 12:47:00 AM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on November 30, 2021, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: REM on November 30, 2021, 07:33:10 PM
SVG and GT to run the 888- some people are not happy!

Let me guess, it's because it's Lowndes number?...LOL!
seems so...it's RD's team, he can do what he likes! :)

All the reports indicate that RD was not consulted. It was cooked up by the team as a thank you.

Also, 888 team is no longer owned by RD who remains a minor shareholder.

Dane is still Chairman.

It think it's a nice gesture to be running 888.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Dasha on December 01, 2021, 10:48:48 AM
I am sure there will be some casualties with rain forecast on the Thurs, Frid & Saturday, hopefully it is a dry race on the Sunday BUT if we do get rain on race day who are the teams / drivers that can handle a wet track the best ?
I am thinking that SVG & Lowndes would have to be the best wet weather drivers, also in my opinion & this is just ( my opinion ) i think the Commodores seem to handle the wet a tad better than the Mustangs.
I hope that I am wrong but team 888 have the best driver line up & would have to be race favorites.
What are your thoughts ?   
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 01, 2021, 12:55:12 PM
Here are some shots of the museum next to the track, Mike, including a couple of American touches. Having a six-day event means there is plenty of time to visit.

(https://i.ibb.co/hBQLD1Z/20211201-113201.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/tXRQL7q/20211201-105133.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/zFwXfWW/20211201-111750.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/02wS22d/20211201-104744.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Alan59 on December 01, 2021, 12:58:08 PM
Quote from: Dasha on December 01, 2021, 10:48:48 AM
I am sure there will be some casualties with rain forecast on the Thurs, Frid & Saturday, hopefully it is a dry race on the Sunday BUT if we do get rain on race day who are the teams / drivers that can handle a wet track the best ?
I am thinking that SVG & Lowndes would have to be the best wet weather drivers, also in my opinion & this is just ( my opinion ) i think the Commodores seem to handle the wet a tad better than the Mustangs.
I hope that I am wrong but team 888 have the best driver line up & would have to be race favorites.
What are your thoughts ?   
Less than 1 ml of rain predicted for Friday and Saturday and none for Sunday.If they run the race on Tuesday rain will be a major factor,
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 01, 2021, 02:45:21 PM
View from the top. Raining in town at the moment.
(https://i.ibb.co/68JH4dh/20211201-144237.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: murph_fan51 on December 01, 2021, 07:46:17 PM
Must be neat at night overlooking the Bathurst township with the lights? How is the new walkway up there?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on December 01, 2021, 07:47:40 PM
Kye, those pics from atop are GREAT!  Glad it is not raining on you guys like it may have been forecasted earlier.

When the action has stopped for the evening, can the fans walk the track?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Skip on December 01, 2021, 08:11:15 PM
Hi everyone, newby here.
I've been to many a bathurst race over the years but haven't been for 8 years. My work plans have changed this year so I'm heading up with the kids.
A few questions... any responses greatly appreciated!
- it looks like the shuttle bus is still running g to the top of the mountain so I can assume we can park at the bottom and bus it to the top of the hill if we want?
- with covid are we able to free range from spectator areas to spectator areas or do we need to stay seated in one spot?
- I'm assuming we can still walk wander from Reid park to the elbow or general admission?
- ummm what's priority parking??
Thanks 😊
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 01, 2021, 08:34:07 PM
I can answer the first 2, yes and yes. There is a cost for the hus
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 01, 2021, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on December 01, 2021, 07:47:40 PM
Kye, those pics from atop are GREAT!  Glad it is not raining on you guys like it may have been forecasted earlier.

When the action has stopped for the evening, can the fans walk the track?
the latest email says no, but I can't see how they are going to stop it, we could do it in previous years
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Skip on December 01, 2021, 09:02:17 PM
Quote from: Trevor on December 01, 2021, 08:34:07 PM
I can answer the first 2, yes and yes. There is a cost for the hus

Thanks Trevor, so that's a yes to being able to wander?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 01, 2021, 09:09:32 PM
Quote from: murph_fan51 on December 01, 2021, 07:46:17 PM
Must be neat at night overlooking the Bathurst etownship with the lights? How is the new walkway up there?
Yep, the view from Skyline is incredible at night. You can see cars travelling on the country roads towards the horizon. The walkway is nice, especially the viewing platform at Skyline.

Quote from: mikeamerica84 on December 01, 2021, 07:47:40 PM
Kye, those pics from atop are GREAT!  Glad it is not raining on you guys like it may have been forecasted earlier.

When the action has stopped for the evening, can the fans walk the track?
Yeah, once the course car goes past with green lights on it is fair game. We did a track walk last night. I'll post up some pics from the bottom tomorrow.

Quote from: Skip on December 01, 2021, 09:02:17 PM
Quote from: Trevor on December 01, 2021, 08:34:07 PM
I can answer the first 2, yes and yes. There is a cost for the hus

Thanks Trevor, so that's a yes to being able to wander?
All the usual general admission areas are accessible, so Reid Park to the Elbow is all open.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Skip on December 01, 2021, 09:43:42 PM
Thanks mate.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 01, 2021, 11:16:09 PM
top of the hill has been carnage central :( the crash today with Declan when the wheel nut took the afternoon off was scary stuff!

I have been down the bottom first 2 days and there have been a few minor things but nothing seriously noteworthy.

there will be plenty of pics coming Mike, just takes me a lot longer coz I am super silly and take too many :P LOL (plus I am still editing my photos from last weekend which have to be finished first)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 02, 2021, 03:19:05 AM
Awake now and waiting for my lift to arrive - be there early arvo today - I will try to post some pics, but getting them from my phone to here could prove difficult  ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: CP on December 02, 2021, 09:19:42 AM
Quote from: Sonic on December 01, 2021, 11:16:09 PM
top of the hill has been carnage central :( the crash today with Declan when the wheel nut took the afternoon off was scary stuff!



https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/12/01/supercars-examining-777-wheel-nut-after-fraser-crash/

Is it possible that even though they comply, the wheel nut in question was an old, fatigued part?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 02, 2021, 11:17:35 AM
At the Chase for the main guys' first lap out.
(https://i.ibb.co/XXG96j5/20211202-100713.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Bloopy on December 02, 2021, 11:49:01 AM
Quote from: Trevor on December 02, 2021, 03:19:05 AM
I will try to post some pics, but getting them from my phone to here could prove difficult  ;D

Imgur (https://imgur.com/) is a long-running and reliable image host for posting to forums. When you upload a photo it gives you the [IMG] BBCode to use on a forum.

It has an 'Edit image' option I didn't know about where you can crop and resize, but not sure how easy that is to use on a phone. It's probably much easier to use an app on your phone to resize photos to a smaller size first. Would save data uploading smaller files too.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on December 02, 2021, 07:51:51 PM
Rusty, in a T8 ZB is over three seconds off the pace!!!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 02, 2021, 07:58:15 PM
Here are some of the more elaborate campsites up top, Mike.
(https://i.ibb.co/0CGzTxQ/20211202-184033.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/tLbH8Cq/20211202-190321.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/2jkfNWB/20211202-191440.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/tK9R7HK/20211202-192933.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/bW5gnX3/20211202-193831.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/TPhJNNS/20211202-194127.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/NyWz300/20211202-193905.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 02, 2021, 08:33:40 PM
Quote from: REM on December 02, 2021, 07:51:51 PM
Rusty, in a T8 ZB is over three seconds off the pace!!!

Yet he's way closer than any of us would possibly be!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 02, 2021, 09:32:05 PM
Great photos Kye!
Spent the day up the top today, and witnessed a few misfortunes. Firstly the SuperUte pushed wide at the Elbow and then the Super2 car at the dipper.

We're down at Max Cameron. Similar setup to yours, plus a 6x3 gazebo. Hoping the rain holds out tomorrow, it has so far!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Troy01505 on December 02, 2021, 09:32:49 PM
Quote from: REM on December 02, 2021, 07:51:51 PM
Rusty, in a T8 ZB is over three seconds off the pace!!!

No surprise really, probably close then i thought he'd be.

He only has to circulate unscathed on Sunday to get a top 20
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 02, 2021, 09:37:31 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on December 02, 2021, 09:32:49 PM
Quote from: REM on December 02, 2021, 07:51:51 PM
Rusty, in a T8 ZB is over three seconds off the pace!!!

No surprise really, probably close then i thought he'd be.

He only has to circulate unscathed on Sunday to get a top 20

Spotted him today and he seems bloody happy. He's just stoked that he gets to live the dream one last time.

Good on him.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 02, 2021, 09:37:54 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on December 02, 2021, 09:32:49 PM
Quote from: REM on December 02, 2021, 07:51:51 PM
Rusty, in a T8 ZB is over three seconds off the pace!!!

No surprise really, probably close then i thought he'd be.

He only has to circulate unscathed on Sunday to get a top 20
.

Probably still lapping close to the last time he drove
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Troy01505 on December 02, 2021, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 02, 2021, 09:37:54 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on December 02, 2021, 09:32:49 PM
Quote from: REM on December 02, 2021, 07:51:51 PM
Rusty, in a T8 ZB is over three seconds off the pace!!!

No surprise really, probably close then i thought he'd be.

He only has to circulate unscathed on Sunday to get a top 20
.

Probably still lapping close to the last time he drove

Practice 2016 he was 2:07.17 this year he is 2:08.44. Still not bad for old gramps who has been out of the game 5 years. If he had the right Team mate he could've pulled of a Morris and won!

In comparison fastest co driver today was Holdsworth with a 2:05.23 and 2016 he was pulling 2:07 flats in practice.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on December 03, 2021, 07:11:01 AM
Love all those pics!  Makes me feel a little "closer" to the action, so to speak.  As a comparison, we used to go to Michigan International Speedway regularly in the 80s and 90s.  Camp out overnight in the infield.  Usually two of us would sleep in the bed of a pickup truck and the others fend for themselves - cab of the truck, tents, or under the stars in sleeping bags.  This was after staying up until 4:00 a.m. drinking beer and smoking dope as loud rock and roll music was blasted throughout the infield by the other campers.

By daybreak, we'd get our hungover butts out of bed and erect the scaffolding to get us up high enough to see over the campers and RVs (caravans).  Once erected, we would do what any NASCAR fan would do in the infield of a superspeedway on race morning - start drinking again.  Oh to be young and stupid again. ;D

I'll be watching the TCR quals and Race 1 tonight here.  I am going to start sliding out of this thread come Friday, though, to prevent any spoliers as I have the weekend off to watch the great race.  I'll then catch up with you guys on the other side of the checkered flag.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 03, 2021, 09:36:50 AM
I'm glad we don't have guys up until 4am here :P. The good thing is that everyone plays decent music up here, so it's not too bad if it is playing until late.

Forrest's Elbow Fridays (corner is not this tight, distorted by wide-angle setting)
(https://i.ibb.co/WVZt6Kc/20211203-093110.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on December 03, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
If I was going to plant my arse in a chair at the track for the 1000 km, I would put it at the elbow.

Thanks for putting me there, Kye.

We are half a world away, but only a keyboard stroke from being in touch with where we dream to be.  I hope I can reciprocate in the future, mate.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 03, 2021, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: Kytabu on December 03, 2021, 09:36:50 AM
I'm glad we don't have guys up until 4am here :P. The good thing is that everyone plays decent music up here, so it's not too bad if it is playing until late.

Forrest's Elbow Fridays (corner is not this tight, distorted by wide-angle setting)
(https://i.ibb.co/WVZt6Kc/20211203-093110.jpg)

The Elbow and right at the outside of the kink at the Chase are the two best places in Australian Motorsport I reckon.
We spent most of yesterday there (the Elbow).

Did you catch an 86 race there? They float through the small right hander before turning left into the elbow. The slowest cars, but the loosest for sure.
They're pretty forgiving if mistakes are made because they aren't going as fast.

I only have videos so can't post here.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 03, 2021, 04:32:37 PM
Yeah, we were there for today's 86 race.

Parked at Metal Grate for qualifying now. My personal favourite, nothing beats the attitude on the cars here!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 03, 2021, 05:03:56 PM
For me the 25 is the car to beat this weekend.  Strongest driver pairing and they have the car well sorted.  The 6 looking very good too so hopefully we have a good battle between marquees.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Troy01505 on December 03, 2021, 05:46:34 PM
How ****ing good are these young blokes coming through! Feeny P15, Brown P1, ADP smashing it as always, Brodie going great guns.

Mozzie and Waters holding up the old fella flag!

Wouldn't discount Gizzy or JDub though, they'll  be right up there on race day.

Watching these young guys this year has rejuvenated my interest in the sport.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 03, 2021, 06:21:52 PM
ha... the cheers that went up at the Chase when JDub missed the shootout was amusing....

still wouldn't discount him in the race but interesting to 'hear the fan view' of him...

how bloody good was Will Brown??!!

disappointed in some of the races though (with how little there was) eg the Porsche race didn't get 1 flying lap in, 3 damaged cars and race is over....

the amount of damage and errors over the weekend has me wondering why? although the SC brigade seem to be doing a pretty good job.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 03, 2021, 07:00:09 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on December 03, 2021, 05:46:34 PM
How ****ing good are these young blokes coming through! Feeny P15, Brown P1, ADP smashing it as always, Brodie going great guns.
Feeney was on a better first sector right at the end too but sprayed the second sector. Imagine if he made the top ten ahead of JW!

Awesome to see Brown at the top. I think 6, 25 and 888 are the picks for the race, though.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Skip on December 03, 2021, 07:11:17 PM
Noted that Reynolds is nowhere and his old car in the 'dud team' is on provvy pole... ouch!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 03, 2021, 07:15:27 PM
Quote from: Skip on December 03, 2021, 07:11:17 PM
Noted that Reynolds is nowhere and his old car in the 'dud team' is on provvy pole... ouch!

Will is a gun! If things roll right on Sunday he may just stand on the top step.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Skip on December 03, 2021, 07:39:03 PM
I wouldnt be too disappointed with that! My money is on that car walling it tho.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: stevo qld on December 03, 2021, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: Skip on December 03, 2021, 07:11:17 PM
Noted that Reynolds is nowhere and his old car in the 'dud team' is on provvy pole... ouch!

Karma  ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: v8man11 on December 03, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: Kytabu on December 03, 2021, 07:00:09 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on December 03, 2021, 05:46:34 PM
How ****ing good are these young blokes coming through! Feeny P15, Brown P1, ADP smashing it as always, Brodie going great guns.
Feeney was on a better first sector right at the end too but sprayed the second sector. Imagine if he made the top ten ahead of JW!

Awesome to see Brown at the top. I think 6, 25 and 888 are the picks for the race, though.

Big nose Skaife put the mocker on him when he was sitting in 11th when he said if he makes the top ten he would be the youngest driver to ever run in the top ten
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 03, 2021, 10:09:07 PM
Onya Will Brown!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Brazen on December 03, 2021, 10:23:10 PM
After qualy I'm thinking cars 6 & 25 will be leading early on... 88 and 888 will come into the race through consistency and strategy with maybe 9 as a wildcard if things go right
Title: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 03, 2021, 11:44:16 PM
That session is the favourite of the year.

AdP is my bet for pole, he was on a hot one in P4 before grassing it at Murray's and only a bee's dick away from provisional pole.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on December 04, 2021, 07:07:01 AM
I am going to tip SVG or Will B for pole, a 4 way ZB stoush for the race throughout the day- 888 vs 25 vs 88 vs 9. But then a late race ending clash between the 888 and the 25 with 88 coming through and taking the win! Cam first Stang home in 5th....
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: the undertaker on December 04, 2021, 07:51:26 AM
Not sure your reverse psychology is going to work this year, REMy. But here's hoping  ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on December 04, 2021, 08:30:29 AM
It's the best hope we've got! "And" 888 and 25 having a clash, is not reverse psychology!! ;) :D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 04, 2021, 08:43:54 AM
Not sure why the lack of faith. The #6 has been very strong, the #11 and #17 have been quick over the weekend, the #3 has definitely been up and, the #44 is absolutely a dark horse and the #5 has ended in the top ten in a number is sessions.

The only Fords we should give up on are KGR.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on December 04, 2021, 09:19:09 AM
The 6 is not as strong as last year, the Shell cars have not had balance and apart from ADP's balls to the wall effort yesterday, haven't really featured..... Sladey looks ok....but is he really a race win contender?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Troy01505 on December 04, 2021, 10:27:33 AM
Quote from: REM on December 04, 2021, 09:19:09 AM
The 6 is not as strong as last year, the Shell cars have not had balance and apart from ADP's balls to the wall effort yesterday, haven't really featured..... Sladey looks ok....but is he really a race win contender?

I agree. Shell cars aren't looking fantastic but Ludo is the master of disguise. Fluff up practice, Sneak in the top 10, 1-2 the shootout then win the race.

I am tipping in no particular order ADP, SVG or Brown and CL on the podium Sunday arvo,
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on December 04, 2021, 10:40:41 AM
Not sure Troy- Ludo is a show off, if he had the speed he'd want to be belting them stupid and have them scratching their heads...
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 04, 2021, 11:31:16 AM
The #25 looks FAST. Not sure on their program though, even Luffy did a fast one at the end there. I get the feeling that the 888 and DJR cars are doing race runs.

#88 is chasing a vibration, good to find it now, and maybe a blessing in disguise to miss the shootout, they can focus on just getting it right for the race.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Troy01505 on December 04, 2021, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: skaifeman on December 04, 2021, 11:31:16 AM
The #25 looks FAST. Not sure on their program though, even Luffy did a fast one at the end there. I get the feeling that the 888 and DJR cars are doing race runs.

#88 is chasing a vibration, good to find it now, and maybe a blessing in disguise to miss the shootout, they can focus on just getting it right for the race.

Vibration is just the loose nut behind the wheel
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 04, 2021, 11:53:53 AM
Quote from: REM on December 04, 2021, 07:07:01 AM
I am going to tip SVG or Will B for pole, a 4 way ZB stoush for the race throughout the day- 888 vs 25 vs 88 vs 9. But then a late race ending clash between the 888 and the 25 with 88 coming through and taking the win! Cam first Stang home in 5th....
You're really struggling with the idea of a Ford doing well so you don't look like an idiot for the incessant ramblings on page 1 and your decision not to attend  ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on December 04, 2021, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: Ospif1 on December 04, 2021, 11:53:53 AM
Quote from: REM on December 04, 2021, 07:07:01 AM
I am going to tip SVG or Will B for pole, a 4 way ZB stoush for the race throughout the day- 888 vs 25 vs 88 vs 9. But then a late race ending clash between the 888 and the 25 with 88 coming through and taking the win! Cam first Stang home in 5th....
You're really struggling with the idea of a Ford doing well so you don't look like an idiot for the incessant ramblings on page 1 and your decision not to attend  ;D

Lol! If Ford win, I'll happily look like an idiot!  ;) But doing well?? Go and look at the last 2 years, this is the softest Ford have looked at Bathurst since the have introduced the Stang!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 04, 2021, 01:43:07 PM
I'm getting AU vibes from the Mustang. It is quick but falls off sooner than ZB.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Bloopy on December 04, 2021, 01:56:20 PM
I had a dream that the drivers had to run around the track for qualifying instead of driving around it, with the option to gain time by swimming at certain points instead of running. All my silly Supercars dreams still crack me up. Even during the pandemic downtime they were quite regular. I'd have to stop watching for decades to shake off that dream topic.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: the undertaker on December 04, 2021, 01:58:14 PM
I think you need to change your meds, Bloopy  ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on December 04, 2021, 01:59:19 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 04, 2021, 01:43:07 PM
I'm getting AU vibes from the Mustang. It is quick but falls off sooner than ZB.

I reckon they are about half a second off the pace of the leading ZB's.....
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 04, 2021, 05:49:07 PM
What a lap for Chaz!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 04, 2021, 06:41:32 PM
Epic lap by chaz. Very close between the marquees which is what we want to see.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 04, 2021, 06:45:36 PM
Some paddock shots for when you eventuallly return to the thread, Mike.
(https://i.ibb.co/HTKsjqr/20211204-121336.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/cLVX4R6/20211204-121544.jpg)

Will Brown with fans at the back of the Erebus garage
(https://i.ibb.co/gJyWs4Y/20211204-121858.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/gWrYHKH/20211204-122158.jpg)

Merchandise alley on the other side of pit straight
(https://i.ibb.co/q18ygg5/20211204-133451.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Wrighty05 on December 04, 2021, 07:22:31 PM
Cracking shootout.

Plenty of chances tomorrow, let's hope it's a great one
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 04, 2021, 07:49:05 PM
this has got to be one of the biggest 'do not finish' weekends ever. just about every corner has had a bingle and I think every category has had a short run.

VERY scary crash with the S5000's at the Chase. that could have ended so bad getting tipped in at those speeds in an open wheeler. if Jordan's car got air under it he would have flown to Bathurst township :( and then to top it off getting rammed while in the gravel by someone who didn't think it was a good idea to slow down while driving through a dust storm? really??
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Troy01505 on December 04, 2021, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Wrighty05 on December 04, 2021, 07:22:31 PM
Cracking shootout.

Plenty of chances tomorrow, let's hope it's a great one

One of the better ones of the last few years in my opinion.

The lap from Chaz is one of the best from the Supercars era. Still surprised Penske didn't snap him up when he jumped ship to WAU.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 04, 2021, 08:30:57 PM
both Erebus disqualified from the shootout because the doors weren't heavy enough (although the overall car weight was correct)

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/12/04/erebus-disqualified-from-bathurst-1000-top-10-shootout/?fbclid=IwAR0m7mMWaFu9TF8Y9x85zpAzw8NgsrSDIN9D1tm_DX5Mdu2SD5XPcUcQ6YM
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Brazen on December 04, 2021, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Sonic on December 04, 2021, 08:30:57 PM
both Erebus disqualified from the shootout because the doors weren't heavy enough (although the overall car weight was correct)

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/12/04/erebus-disqualified-from-bathurst-1000-top-10-shootout/?fbclid=IwAR0m7mMWaFu9TF8Y9x85zpAzw8NgsrSDIN9D1tm_DX5Mdu2SD5XPcUcQ6YM

Silly oversight... wonder how much they were out by?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 04, 2021, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: Wrighty05 on December 04, 2021, 07:22:31 PM
Cracking shootout.

Plenty of chances tomorrow, let's hope it's a great one

Agreed. So much winning potential for this race.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 04, 2021, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on December 04, 2021, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Wrighty05 on December 04, 2021, 07:22:31 PM
Cracking shootout.

Plenty of chances tomorrow, let's hope it's a great one

One of the better ones of the last few years in my opinion.

The lap from Chaz is one of the best from the Supercars era. Still surprised Penske didn't snap him up when he jumped ship to WAU.
Word is that it was Chaz that turned down Penske.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: LG on December 04, 2021, 09:33:32 PM
Do Erebus make their own panels or do they buy them from WAU?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 04, 2021, 09:36:13 PM
Sounds like Erebus was trying to pull a DJR/TP trick by shifting weight. Can understand a door was under effecting the total weight, but the weight was still in the car somewhere.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 12:00:34 AM
Quote from: Sonic on December 04, 2021, 07:49:05 PM
this has got to be one of the biggest 'do not finish' weekends ever. just about every corner has had a bingle and I think every category has had a short run.

VERY scary crash with the S5000's at the Chase. that could have ended so bad getting tipped in at those speeds in an open wheeler. if Jordan's car got air under it he would have flown to Bathurst township :( and then to top it off getting rammed while in the gravel by someone who didn't think it was a good idea to slow down while driving through a dust storm? really??
I actually disagree, I think it's been a very tame weekend with very minimal damage. There have been a handful of significant incidents but nothing on what we've seen in the past.

I think the lack of racing in the supports comes down to the long list of categories they are trying to cram into one weekend. There has been very little time between sessions meaning time certainty has come into play way more than usual.

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: stevo qld on December 05, 2021, 12:49:50 AM
I wonder if the Scrutineers removed and weighed the doors of all top 10 cars or maybe all 25 cars.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 07:21:01 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 04, 2021, 09:36:13 PM
Sounds like Erebus was trying to pull a DJR/TP trick by shifting weight. Can understand a door was under effecting the total weight, but the weight was still in the car somewhere.
Does it really matter if the doors are underweight, unless it is a safety issue? I understand that having weight in different parts of the car can effect overall performance, but total weight was not under.

What tipped the stewards into removing doors to weigh them, given overall weight was correct? I could understand them investigating further if car was underweight or would this be standard practice?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 09:34:50 AM
That's why I think Erebus was trying something. The weight shift was obvious and that's why they weighed the doors.

Does it matter? Probably not. But Supercars made a big stink about weight position and centre of gravity at ADL 2019 that they made a rod for their back.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 07:21:01 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 04, 2021, 09:36:13 PM
Sounds like Erebus was trying to pull a DJR/TP trick by shifting weight. Can understand a door was under effecting the total weight, but the weight was still in the car somewhere.
I understand that having weight in different parts of the car can effect overall performance, but total weight was not under.

That's exactly why.

These kinds of things have to be treated as black and white when it comes to being penalised otherwise it becomes a complete shambles with potential bias when opinion and context begins to come into play for the verdicts.
Title: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 10:55:22 AM
Go Chaz! Quickest ever! First Walkinshaw pole since 2009!

Feeney quickest in the warm up. Doesn't give much away.
#88 again lucky to find their roll bar lever not working now, rather than at 5 laps into the race.

Just about every support race has had a yellow for a car in the wall/sand. Has a race gone full length yet?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: murph_fan51 on December 05, 2021, 11:03:52 AM
Quote from: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 07:21:01 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 04, 2021, 09:36:13 PM
Sounds like Erebus was trying to pull a DJR/TP trick by shifting weight. Can understand a door was under effecting the total weight, but the weight was still in the car somewhere.
I understand that having weight in different parts of the car can effect overall performance, but total weight was not under.

That's exactly why.

These kinds of things have to be treated as black and white when it comes to being penalised otherwise it becomes a complete shambles with potential bias when opinion and context begins to come into play for the verdicts.

I do wonder why they weren't put back to the back of the grid and only the Top 10?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: murph_fan51 on December 05, 2021, 11:03:52 AM
Quote from: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 07:21:01 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 04, 2021, 09:36:13 PM
Sounds like Erebus was trying to pull a DJR/TP trick by shifting weight. Can understand a door was under effecting the total weight, but the weight was still in the car somewhere.
I understand that having weight in different parts of the car can effect overall performance, but total weight was not under.

That's exactly why.

These kinds of things have to be treated as black and white when it comes to being penalised otherwise it becomes a complete shambles with potential bias when opinion and context begins to come into play for the verdicts.

I do wonder why they weren't put back to the back of the grid and only the Top 10?
Because they were only caught after that particular session presumably in a parc ferme condition.  They won't penalise for previous sessions where the car may have been different, they have to work with factual evidence only.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on December 05, 2021, 11:09:06 AM
I dropped in one last time, Kye!  Thanks for the paddock shots.  I watched qually and the Shootout.  Edge of my seat I was for all of the Shootout.  On some of the helicopter shots I was looking for your Focus and site out back in the campground.   ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 11:22:11 AM
I take back what I said about Erebus and believe it was just an oversight given the amount of weight they were pinged for. Larko has a blub on the Supercars website.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on December 05, 2021, 12:03:19 PM
Contemplate this, guys:

Let us say an Erebus car wins the race, THEN they found out the doors were too light.  Do you think they would be DQ'd?  It is an easier setback to recover from in qually, but in the race itself.....?  Plus it would give the WHOLE week/weekend a black eye.

If your answer "Yes", now let me up the ante:  Would they DQ a Red Bull car for the same infringement?  J-Dub in his final race?

I think the enforcement of the rules is based on the "status" of the camp.  I am sure a BJR car or a Grove car would be ripped to shreds if they won under those circumstances.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 12:06:45 PM
Are they going to play these fake crowd noises all day? It's the same ****en clip every time. There is enough people there to make real noises, don'ts create fake crap..

And come on Frosty, can only hope for a miracle today!!
Title: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 12:29:03 PM
Alex Davison with the best start of the race. Tander just had the inside line.

Bloody shame for Pye/Golding, game over for them already.

The DJR cars don't look great on a full load. Blanchard overtaking one and ranging up on the other. I'd suggest they're aggressively saving fuel.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 12:46:03 PM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on December 05, 2021, 12:03:19 PM
Contemplate this, guys:
If your answer "Yes", now let me up the ante:  Would they DQ a Red Bull car for the same infringement?  J-Dub in his final race?

This is the problem with part of the fanbase.  Hypotheticals with zero evidence or basis to be mentioned but expressed as a fact which only contributes to the ever growing false narrative of favouritism bordering on corruption in the stewards office.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 01:00:34 PM
Looks like they're trying to make up for not showing the Supercheap car all weekend by showing it literally every single lap today.

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Title: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 01:01:18 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 01:00:34 PM
Looks like they're trying to make up for not showing the Supercheap car all weekend by showing it literally every single lap today.

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It's just about the only car making overtakes.

...and now getting overtaken.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: coyote302 on December 05, 2021, 01:10:04 PM
Car 25 looks like it's going to be hard to beat.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 01:10:29 PM
In other news the timing totum is wrong as usual.

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 01:24:47 PM
Quote from: coyote302 on December 05, 2021, 01:10:04 PM
Car 25 looks like it's going to be hard to beat.
They will win on pace, but there's always drama with SC or mechanicals in this race
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 01:41:21 PM
It always comes down to the timing of the final SC. Games still wide open.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 01:41:21 PM
It always comes down to the timing of the final SC. Games still wide open.
Surprisingly few safety cars so far to be honest. Although from memory it really kicked off from about lap 100 last year or the year before.

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 02:05:35 PM
Crompton mentioned car 25 is using more fuel, I reckon WAU are going all out, full speed, fuel be damned.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 02:09:36 PM
NOOOOO!!!! Not Mostert...

Left rear tyre failure.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 02:15:25 PM
Doesn't look like running too much neg - it was my concern given their speed. Fingers crossed.

A fair few dash's are out too.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 02:55:15 PM
That confirms it was car set up that did Chaz's tyre...

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 03:01:48 PM
At this rate this'll be a <5hr race...

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 02:55:15 PM
That confirms it was car set up that did Chaz's tyre...

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What does?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 03:03:57 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 02:55:15 PM
That confirms it was car set up that did Chaz's tyre...

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What does?
Chaz's comments in the "interview".

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 03:03:57 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 02:55:15 PM
That confirms it was car set up that did Chaz's tyre...

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What does?
Chaz's comments in the "interview".

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Not sure how you come to that conclusion!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 04:22:07 PM
Did I miss a rule change, why the **** are they waving all those lapped cars past? Ridiculous!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: xAdzyx on December 05, 2021, 04:29:50 PM
Was SVG weaving after the lights went out?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 04:29:58 PM
Wow. SVG did all that purposely. Cunning.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 05, 2021, 04:30:11 PM
Was SVG deliberately driving slowly so Whincup could pass Mostert and negate Mostert's couple of laps fuel advantage?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 04:30:55 PM
Quote from: Kytabu on December 05, 2021, 04:30:11 PM
Was SVG deliberately driving slowly so Whincup could pass Mostert and negats Mostert's couple of laps fuel advantage?
Absolutely.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 05, 2021, 04:32:34 PM
Should be a penalty for that. Could have been a massive accident with everyone backing up.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 04:33:45 PM
Quote from: Kytabu on December 05, 2021, 04:32:34 PM
Should be a penalty for that. Could have been a massive accident with everyone backing up.
Which rule did he break?  It was dirty but I don't think it necessarily breaks a sporting regulation.

The Davison car however does break a regulation quite clearly and will likely be penalised.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: boris on December 05, 2021, 04:39:55 PM
It would be called bad sportsmanship. Deserving of that warning first - he's done it twice now without warning.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 05, 2021, 04:39:58 PM
I would say deliberately slowing to block another car and creating the potential for a multi-car accident could be considered negligent or dangerous driving.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 04:41:33 PM
Quote from: Kytabu on December 05, 2021, 04:39:58 PM
I would say deliberately slowing to block another car and creating the potential for a multi-car accident could be considered negligent or dangerous driving.
Maybe, but that's also quite subjective and thus unlikely to result in a penalty.  It should receive a warning for bad sportsmanship instead.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: boris on December 05, 2021, 04:42:13 PM
Funny the reading of the rule for the pitstop release - "impeding another driver" - by that measure I wouldn't think Whincup was impeded, he kept the boot in...
Title: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 04:43:49 PM
The first lap I just thought he was playing conservative with tyre temps into T2.
The second lap says otherwise.

They can't beat the #25 for car speed so they're trying everything else.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 04:44:43 PM
Quote from: boris on December 05, 2021, 04:42:13 PM
Funny the reading of the rule for the pitstop release - "impeding another driver" - by that measure I wouldn't think Whincup was impeded, he kept the boot in...

I'd argue the potential damage to the car getting hit is an impediment.  Contact caused from a poorly timed release is pretty much always clear cut.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Bloopy on December 05, 2021, 04:45:39 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 04:22:07 PM
Did I miss a rule change, why the **** are they waving all those lapped cars past? Ridiculous!

Not a bad option to reduce restart chaos. I was surprised Coulthard/Webb were included in the list though, thought they were too many laps down. Then the first wave bys happened the same lap Webb intended to pit, potentially further confusing things.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 04:46:23 PM
One thing is for sure, this race is going to get a little wild.  I expect the #25 will disappear into the distance though.

Lol Whincup asked to conserve, how did that go last time...
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 04:54:06 PM
5 secs penalty Car 17 for unsafe release.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 04:55:12 PM
The #888 coming alive now as well so maybe it won't be as simple for the #25.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 04:56:37 PM
I thought they changed the rule a few years back to say if they make contact behind the back wheel its fine?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 05:03:29 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 04:56:37 PM
I thought they changed the rule a few years back to say if they make contact behind the back wheel its fine?

Yeah they did, but I think they changed it again from memory.

The usual post-safety car craziness ensues. This is where the luck begins.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 04:29:58 PM
Wow. SVG did all that purposely. Cunning.


Wanna drop an ning and add another letter?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 05:07:24 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 04:56:37 PM
I thought they changed the rule a few years back to say if they make contact behind the back wheel its fine?
Couldn't see that in the regs.  It says the below:

7. Pit Release
7.1. The Car Controller is responsible for the safe release of the Car.
7.2. A Car entering its Pit Bay must do so without impeding any other Car in Pit Lane.
7.3. A Car being released from its Pit Bay must do so without impeding any other Car in Pit Lane.
7.4. Any Car that travels down the working lane more than the length of two (2) Pit Bays from its
own Pit Bay, or at the discretion of the DSA and the Stewards, without merging or entering
wholly into the fast lane may receive a Penalty.
7.5. Any contact between Cars in Pit Lane may be reviewed by the Stewards and a Penalty may
be applied
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: xAdzyx on December 05, 2021, 04:29:50 PM
Was SVG weaving after the lights went out?

Yep, but wont be penalised
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: xAdzyx on December 05, 2021, 04:29:50 PM
Was SVG weaving after the lights went out?

Yep, but wont be penalised

I think he already hit the go pedal though. Does that mean the race has resumed and he can do what he wants?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 05:12:13 PM
Quote from: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: xAdzyx on December 05, 2021, 04:29:50 PM
Was SVG weaving after the lights went out?

Yep, but wont be penalised

I think he already hit the go pedal though. Does that mean the race has resumed and he can do what he wants?
Depends if the green flags are waving or not.  If they are waving they are free to do as they wish.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 05:17:04 PM
25 has it in the bag. Mostert has speed to burn.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 05:17:29 PM
A top 10 for the Feeney/Ingall car would be quite the achievement.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 05:21:03 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 05:17:04 PM
25 has it in the bag. Mostert has speed to burn.

They deserve the win, that thing as been an absolute rocket all day and both drivers have been on song.
Holdsworth driver of the day for me.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 05:31:13 PM
What was Ludo's reasoning for bringing the #11 in?

Mostert does look good. He just needs to stay away from a bump happy SVG.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 05:33:12 PM
Hoping to short fill and gain on the last round of stops. Especially if there is a SC.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 05:33:12 PM
Hoping to short fill and gain on the last round of stops. Especially if there is a SC.

Trouble with safety car is Will has track position, and a 5 second penalty to serve. that will really hurt ADP in a double stack

Edit, double stack no longer an issue

Edit Edit: really doesnt matter now.

Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 05:36:32 PM
They teased us with the potential for some excitement but it's really kinda fizzling out...

Kinda feels as exciting as 2010 which was a dead set dud.

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 05:33:12 PM
Hoping to short fill and gain on the last round of stops. Especially if there is a SC.

Trouble with safety car is Will has track position, and a 5 second penalty to serve. that will really hurt ADP in a double stack
Can't serve a penalty under yellow.

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 05:41:47 PM
Real dud of a Bathurst after such a strong SMP for DJR.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 05:44:11 PM
I thought they may have brought Chaz in a lap or two early, moot point now with ADP parked up and causing safety car.

Unless SVG punts him off, hard to see him losing
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 05:45:14 PM
SVG is a drama magnet so I wouldn't be surprised if something happens here.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 05:56:45 PM
The constant safety cars toward the end just kills the race.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 06:01:26 PM
yep,
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 06:04:19 PM
The gap Chaz can pull in a lap is insane.  I don't recall such a dominant car at Bathurst in recent history.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 06:04:29 PM
Just look at the gap Mozzie pulls on the restart. WAU have struck gold!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 06:07:12 PM
Maybe spoke too soon?  SVG is holding him now, perhaps the tyre advantage is showing here.  Or Chaz is just managing himself.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 06:07:46 PM
They're really talking up Van Gis and kind of ignoring Chaz...

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 06:08:26 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 06:07:46 PM
They're really talking up Van Gis and kind of ignoring Chaz...

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You sound surprised by that
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 06:07:46 PM
They're really talking up Van Gis and kind of ignoring Chaz...

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Because we expect Chaz to be the quickest and pull away, not SVG to be slightly quicker.  That IS the story of the race currently.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 06:10:56 PM
Quote from: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 06:07:46 PM
They're really talking up Van Gis and kind of ignoring Chaz...

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Because we expect Chaz to be the quickest and pull away, not SVG to be slightly quicker.  That IS the story of the race currently.
Shane isn't faster tho. He gets within hundredths but he's not been faster since the restart.

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 06:12:24 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 06:10:56 PM
Quote from: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 06:07:46 PM
They're really talking up Van Gis and kind of ignoring Chaz...

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Because we expect Chaz to be the quickest and pull away, not SVG to be slightly quicker.  That IS the story of the race currently.
Shane isn't faster tho. He gets within hundredths but he's not been faster since the restart.

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True, but he's holding, which isn't what has been expected.  There's not much else to talk about than the leading battle so I'm struggling to see the issue here.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 06:13:40 PM
ANyway Chaz pulling again and they are talking about him in Commentary to keep you guys happy.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 06:13:55 PM
SVG kills his tyres faster when chasing someone.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 06:22:02 PM
Just a bad day for the Mustang.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 06:23:18 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 06:22:02 PM
Just a bad day for the Mustang.
2nd isn't bad.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 06:24:15 PM
<----Quiet cheer....
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 06:26:09 PM
Quote from: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 06:23:18 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 06:22:02 PM
Just a bad day for the Mustang.
2nd isn't bad.

Not at all. Just a reaction to the new 6 has an issue.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 06:27:04 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 06:24:15 PM
<----Quiet cheer....

Quiet cheer? I'm rolling on the floor with tears of laughter soaking the carpet
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 06:29:03 PM
All credit to Chaz and Lee. 25 is the shiniest, unmarked car at this time of the race.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 06:31:23 PM
they've been the best all weekend, thoroughly deserve it
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on December 05, 2021, 06:35:54 PM
Mostert's first win came from last position.

His second win comes from pole position.

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Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: the undertaker on December 05, 2021, 06:38:00 PM
My choice of winner was Cam, so 2nd I'm happy with.

Well done, Chas and Lee, you were the best all day.

Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 06:39:19 PM
I'm just glad an Aussie has won the thing.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 05, 2021, 06:40:29 PM
DSQ Car 25 for breaking parc ferme ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 06:40:57 PM
There going to cope a fine for doing an extra lap like that!!


Well done Chaz..
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: boris on December 05, 2021, 06:47:30 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 06:40:57 PM
There going to cope a fine for doing an extra lap like that!!

Yep, but I love it! When I won Bathurst in my dreams as a kid I was always going to do a victory lap!!! ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 07:00:05 PM
The fastest car won Bathurst. That generally doesn't happen does it?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Roadways6 on December 05, 2021, 07:22:27 PM
Quote from: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 07:00:05 PM
The fastest car won Bathurst. That generally doesn't happen does it?

When was the last time the fastest car didn't win? Maybe 2018, definitely 2016
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: murph_fan51 on December 05, 2021, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 06:40:57 PM
There going to cope a fine for doing an extra lap like that!!


Well done Chaz..
SVG didn't last year so consistency says....
They should be allowed to do a victory lap.
Well done to car 25, Holden adding to get 35 wins in the 1000.
Bad luck to Feeny near the end but he'll learn from that one.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on December 05, 2021, 07:43:31 PM
Quote from: skaifeman on December 05, 2021, 07:00:05 PM
The fastest car won Bathurst. That generally doesn't happen does it?

Welllllll, given that the first car over the line has the fastest race time, I would have thought that the fastest car wins it every single time. :P :P ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Brazen on December 05, 2021, 09:21:04 PM
Still blown away at how good that WAU car was... actually might be a strong team next year with Nick joining
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: CP on December 05, 2021, 09:31:35 PM
Despite how successful the team was in its previous guise, it was a deserving win. The car was fast, Lee and Chaz were equally fast, and just drove the arse off it. Delaminated tyre and all.

It might have taken a while, but Ryan has kept his dads winning legacy alive and even put a nice feather in the cap for Michael Andretti and Zak Brown.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 05, 2021, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on December 05, 2021, 12:06:45 PM
Are they going to play these fake crowd noises all day? It's the same ****en clip every time. There is enough people there to make real noises, don'ts create fake crap..

And come on Frosty, can only hope for a miracle today!!

crowd was half at best I reckon at the Chase all weekend. it felt empty today!
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 05, 2021, 10:02:59 PM
and to top it all off... Chaz and Cam next to each other again LOL

first 100 put me to sleep at the fence... the 'give back a lap' remains a farce... tough break for Feeney but ripper job to that point...

definitely the right car won the event... best all week.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Brazen on December 05, 2021, 10:30:46 PM
The fake crowd noise is really annoying... and so embarrassing... ok fine we don't get footy stadium levels of noise but faking it makes the sport look foolish
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: CP on December 05, 2021, 11:13:25 PM
Quote from: Brazen on December 05, 2021, 10:30:46 PM
The fake crowd noise is really annoying... and so embarrassing... ok fine we don't get footy stadium levels of noise but faking it makes the sport look foolish

Pretty sure with the actual crowd noise heard during the Shootout yesterday, I heard "Go you ****" during Percats lap.

Speaking of terrible noise, how about Mossy performing Tuckers Daughter?

My God. That was ****.

Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Brazen on December 06, 2021, 12:19:45 AM
Quote from: CP on December 05, 2021, 11:13:25 PM
Quote from: Brazen on December 05, 2021, 10:30:46 PM
The fake crowd noise is really annoying... and so embarrassing... ok fine we don't get footy stadium levels of noise but faking it makes the sport look foolish

Pretty sure with the actual crowd noise heard during the Shootout yesterday, I heard "Go you ****" during Percats lap.

Speaking of terrible noise, how about Mossy performing Tuckers Daughter?

My God. That was ****.

The real crowd noise up the top for the shootout yesterday was fun.

I'm pretty sure I heard them chant "Go you ****" during

The guys up the top would definitely start chanting stuff like that after a few :D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: stevo qld on December 06, 2021, 12:36:06 AM
Quote from: stevo qld on December 05, 2021, 12:49:50 AM
I wonder if the Scrutineers removed and weighed the doors of all top 10 cars or maybe all 25 cars.


Maybe it is just as well that the Scrutineers examined the cars carefully after the shootout.

They were only disqualified from the shootout, but stayed in the top ten start positions.


If the lightweight door (100g-half a chocolate bar) hadn't been found and corrected, it might have been found in after race scrutineering.

That could have cost Brodie and the team a third place finish. ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on December 06, 2021, 07:49:28 AM
Quote from: CP on December 05, 2021, 11:13:25 PM
Quote from: Brazen on December 05, 2021, 10:30:46 PM
The fake crowd noise is really annoying... and so embarrassing... ok fine we don't get footy stadium levels of noise but faking it makes the sport look foolish

Pretty sure with the actual crowd noise heard during the Shootout yesterday, I heard "Go you ****" during Percats lap.

Speaking of terrible noise, how about Mossy performing Tuckers Daughter?

My God. That was ****.

The real crowd noise up the top for the shootout yesterday was fun.

I'm pretty sure I heard them chant "Go you ****" during
They played the same noise clip every time.. They 100% had fake noise during the shootout & all throughout the race.

And I agree, it was dumb & makes the sport look crap.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 06, 2021, 09:18:15 AM
Unless I have missed one, it is only the fourth time in the race's history that a car has taken pole position, won the race and set the fastest lap. The other occasions were 1968, 1979 and the 1998 Super Touring race. Skaife had the pole, win and fastest lap in 1991, but the fastest race lap was set in the #2 rather than the #1 Nissan.

I cannot remember such a dominant car in both qualifying and race trim in the modern era. Congratulations to WAU on giving Chaz and Lee a car to achieve such a rare feat.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: CP on December 06, 2021, 09:25:30 AM
Quote from: Kytabu on December 06, 2021, 09:18:15 AM
Unless I have missed one, it is only the fourth time in the race's history that a car has taken pole position, won the race and set the fastest lap. The other occasions were 1968, 1979 and the 1998 Super Touring race. Skaife had the pole, win and fastest lap in 1991, but the fastest race lap was set in the #2 rather than the #1 Nissan.

I cannot remember such a dominant car in both qualifying and race trim in the modern era. Congratulations to WAU on giving Chaz and Lee a car to achieve such a rare feat.


It's probably one of the rare times that part of the podium was made up of sons of past outright and class winners.

We know Allan has won before, and I'm thinking that David Russell's dad Geoff was a class winner?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on December 06, 2021, 03:29:34 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 07, 2021, 06:12:51 AM
Quote from: Kytabu on December 02, 2021, 07:58:15 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/NyWz300/20211202-193905.jpg)
we were 2 spots along the road away from these blokes
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 07, 2021, 06:17:55 AM
I think I will ban myself from going to any future events, every time I go Holden win, I have never been there for a Ford win.

Too busy to post pics and other stuff - sorry
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 07, 2021, 06:32:15 AM
Our campsite (with the box trailer and dunny)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wTstjmQX/20211202-170218.jpg).

Some random drunk Holden bloke dribbling to my son who is in the flanno shirt - Saturday night at its finest
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9n4hNP3/20211204-212835.jpg)

Practice Saturday - our neighbours
(https://i.postimg.cc/CM2B0NkM/20211202-170157.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJssPZQH/20211202-170148.jpg)

Bloody cold Sunday arvo - a few dead soldiers in front to us lol
(https://i.postimg.cc/HkwVQ1Kj/20211205-171447.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 09, 2021, 01:21:34 PM
for anyone wanting a look through the week from (mostly) the Chase check out my photo page on fb (Phil Wisewould Photography)... plenty of fun for everyone unless you were paying the bills :S
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Troy01505 on December 09, 2021, 04:39:18 PM
Quote from: Trevor on December 07, 2021, 06:17:55 AM
I think I will ban myself from going to any future events, every time I go Holden win, I have never been there for a Ford win.

Too busy to post pics and other stuff - sorry

I reckon you should do a season tour to farewell the Opel next season so it goes out on a high.

Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: REM on December 09, 2021, 05:52:41 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on December 09, 2021, 04:39:18 PM
Quote from: Trevor on December 07, 2021, 06:17:55 AM
I think I will ban myself from going to any future events, every time I go Holden win, I have never been there for a Ford win.

Too busy to post pics and other stuff - sorry

I reckon you should do a season tour to farewell the Opel next season so it goes out on a high.

If even Ludo cant make the Stang a race winning package in it's current guise.....I doubt Holden will need "the curse of Trev" to grab another win!  ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on December 10, 2021, 01:38:51 AM
Trev, I find it absolutely humorous that you brought your own dunny!

Thanks for the pics, guys.  While watching the race when they had the multiple helicopter shots when going over the top, I found myself looking at the campground layouts/locations moreso than the racing.  Trying to get a feel for the scene so to speak.  It's been a few decades since we camped at a race.

Glad the weather cooperated for you all, too.

As for the race itself, what a dominating performance by the WAU car.  888 had a little for them late but fate did them in so we never got to see what may have been.  And other than the TV scoring pylon not being updated from time to time for long periods of time, the coverage was great IMO.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on December 10, 2021, 01:45:14 AM
Quote from: Ospif1 on December 05, 2021, 12:46:03 PM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on December 05, 2021, 12:03:19 PM
Contemplate this, guys:
If your answer "Yes", now let me up the ante:  Would they DQ a Red Bull car for the same infringement?  J-Dub in his final race?

This is the problem with part of the fanbase.  Hypotheticals with zero evidence or basis to be mentioned but expressed as a fact which only contributes to the ever growing false narrative of favouritism bordering on corruption in the stewards office.

It was just a question.  That is some deep thought you gave it.   ;D

Quote from: stevo qld on December 05, 2021, 12:49:50 AM
I wonder if the Scrutineers removed and weighed the doors of all top 10 cars or maybe all 25 cars.
Perhaps anyone who can answer stevo's question might answer mine?  Did someone drop a dime on Erebus?  Is the inspection random?  Do they take the Top 3?  5?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 10, 2021, 04:28:35 AM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on December 10, 2021, 01:38:51 AM
Trev, I find it absolutely humorous that you brought your own dunny!
Mike, we didn't bring one with us, we hired one from a local vendor, they delivered it when we got there Thursday and picked it up after we left

The toilets on the top of the mountain can be pretty putrid, so we decided to hire one of our own

As a side note, there were HEAPS of empty camp sites up the top and it looked like there were heaps of empty camp spots in the Chase

We did our mandatory track walk Saturday night and even that was reasonably quiet
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on December 10, 2021, 10:15:43 AM
Quote from: Trevor on December 10, 2021, 04:28:35 AM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on December 10, 2021, 01:38:51 AM
Trev, I find it absolutely humorous that you brought your own dunny!
Mike, we didn't bring one with us, we hired one from a local vendor, they delivered it when we got there Thursday and picked it up after we left.
I fell a little better now, Trev.  I was wondering how you got the thing back home with 'everything' still inside (or not).   :)

Quote from: Sonic on December 09, 2021, 01:21:34 PM
for anyone wanting a look through the week from (mostly) the Chase check out my photo page on fb (Phil Wisewould Photography)... plenty of fun for everyone unless you were paying the bills :S
Where were you standing when you were taking the shots, Sonic?  Atop the pit road building?

Thanks for The Chase look(s).
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 10, 2021, 01:52:52 PM
it was empty Trev. inside the Chase is normally packed well before the race start. I gave it half full at best. The campgrounds had so many empty spots it was crazy. Perhaps a part of the covid issue.

Mike, nope, I was at ground level for most of it. If you look at the few pics from outside the Chase you will see a flag post with the Jim Beam area to the left. I was in there for the most part. The few 'upper' shots I took from upstairs in the Repco area a little further to the left.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on December 10, 2021, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Sonic on December 10, 2021, 01:52:52 PM
it was empty Trev. inside the Chase is normally packed well before the race start. I gave it half full at best. The campgrounds had so many empty spots it was crazy. Perhaps a part of the covid issue.

Mike, nope, I was at ground level for most of it. If you look at the few pics from outside the Chase you will see a flag post with the Jim Beam area to the left. I was in there for the most part. The few 'upper' shots I took from upstairs in the Repco area a little further to the left.

Repco and BP gave away free grandstand upgrade tickets on sunday to fill the stands on the front straight, I thought it was a pretty good effort to get the crowd they did, Given Qlders couldn't come nor any other locked down state, three date changes would have stuffed many workers plans, many had used up holidays in lockdowns etc,

I appreciated a whole week of Grandstand use for NO EXTRA CHARGE. 8)

Thought it stupid requiring campers to wear 2 wrist bands when the one given at the camp gate proved Vax status.  ::)
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 10, 2021, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: fordman on December 10, 2021, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Sonic on December 10, 2021, 01:52:52 PM
it was empty Trev. inside the Chase is normally packed well before the race start. I gave it half full at best. The campgrounds had so many empty spots it was crazy. Perhaps a part of the covid issue.

Mike, nope, I was at ground level for most of it. If you look at the few pics from outside the Chase you will see a flag post with the Jim Beam area to the left. I was in there for the most part. The few 'upper' shots I took from upstairs in the Repco area a little further to the left.

Repco and BP gave away free grandstand upgrade tickets on sunday to fill the stands on the front straight, I thought it was a pretty good effort to get the crowd they did, Given Qlders couldn't come nor any other locked down state, three date changes would have stuffed many workers plans, many had used up holidays in lockdowns etc,

I appreciated a whole week of Grandstand use for NO EXTRA CHARGE. 8)

Thought it stupid requiring campers to wear 2 wrist bands when the one given at the camp gate proved Vax status.  ::)

agreed that it was prob a good crowd considering no Qld, WA or Tas (I think that is correct). and the date changes definitely had an effect for some.

didn't know about the free grandstand seats! would have gone down and taken advantage of it at least for a little bit.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 11, 2021, 05:28:43 AM
Quote from: fordman on December 10, 2021, 03:14:42 PM
Thought it stupid requiring campers to wear 2 wrist bands when the one given at the camp gate proved Vax status.  ::)
that is news to me
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on December 11, 2021, 05:41:25 AM
Quote from: Sonic on December 10, 2021, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: fordman on December 10, 2021, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Sonic on December 10, 2021, 01:52:52 PM
it was empty Trev. inside the Chase is normally packed well before the race start. I gave it half full at best. The campgrounds had so many empty spots it was crazy. Perhaps a part of the covid issue.

Mike, nope, I was at ground level for most of it. If you look at the few pics from outside the Chase you will see a flag post with the Jim Beam area to the left. I was in there for the most part. The few 'upper' shots I took from upstairs in the Repco area a little further to the left.



Repco and BP gave away free grandstand upgrade tickets on sunday to fill the stands on the front straight, I thought it was a pretty good effort to get the crowd they did, Given Qlders couldn't come nor any other locked down state, three date changes would have stuffed many workers plans, many had used up holidays in lockdowns etc,

I appreciated a whole week of Grandstand use for NO EXTRA CHARGE. 8)

Thought it stupid requiring campers to wear 2 wrist bands when the one given at the camp gate proved Vax status.  ::)

agreed that it was prob a good crowd considering no Qld, WA or Tas (I think that is correct). and the date changes definitely had an effect for some.

didn't know about the free grandstand seats! would have gone down and taken advantage of it at least for a little bit.

I heard they gave them out at the front gate not sure they advertised it, there were still seats in my grandstand but was fuller than Saturday.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on December 11, 2021, 05:51:56 AM
Quote from: Trevor on December 11, 2021, 05:28:43 AM
Quote from: fordman on December 10, 2021, 03:14:42 PM
Thought it stupid requiring campers to wear 2 wrist bands when the one given at the camp gate proved Vax status.  ::)
that is news to me

Upon entry to campground after proving cax status was given pink arm band, told this would get us in the gates without having to reprove status, logical. Day 1 worked ok, day 2 was told at entry gate needed a black wrist band to prove same thing as the pink one ::) told to go to front gate info point, did so was told this was wrong was never challenged again, but saw plenty of black wrist bands as well as colored.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Kytabu on December 11, 2021, 08:16:46 AM
We had to show our vaccination status and ticket every time we went through the main gate down the bottom, even though we had to show both of those to get our McPhillamy wristbands. The woman thought I was being a smartass when she asked for my ticket and I just held my wristband up.

In February I'm fairly sure that once we had the camping wristband we didn't have to show our tickets at any gate from that point on.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on December 11, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: Kytabu on December 11, 2021, 08:16:46 AM
We had to show our vaccination status and ticket every time we went through the main gate down the bottom, even though we had to show both of those to get our McPhillamy wristbands. The woman thought I was being a smartass when she asked for my ticket and I just held my wristband up.

In February I'm fairly sure that once we had the camping wristband we didn't have to show our tickets at any gate from that point on.

Probably one of the biggest thing about this whole pandemic restrictions thing is the inconsistencies in the rule makers and enforcers. Logic would dictate if  person had a campground wristband he had already, 1 proved he had a ticket & 2 been fully vaccinated  ::) 3 gates enforcing one rule differently ::)

Tuesday I noticed none of the merchandise stores were wearing masks nor enforcing customers to wear one but Wednesday they were, I asked the young lady at the t8 store did they get sprung she smiled and said yea they ALL did  :D
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on December 11, 2021, 10:57:52 AM
something that surprised me was that all of the merch tents seemed to shut early. especially after the race on Sunday when I thought they'd be doing their best to get rid of as much merch as possible, especially WAU being winners would have sold a bundle!

maybe it was as a result of such a late finish that they sent all the staff home? I went out after the podium (as is my usual) to maybe grab a shirt or two and I think the only thing open was the SC one.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: djr18fan on December 11, 2021, 11:22:40 AM
Quote from: fordman on December 11, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: Kytabu on December 11, 2021, 08:16:46 AM
We had to show our vaccination status and ticket every time we went through the main gate down the bottom, even though we had to show both of those to get our McPhillamy wristbands. The woman thought I was being a smartass when she asked for my ticket and I just held my wristband up.

In February I'm fairly sure that once we had the camping wristband we didn't have to show our tickets at any gate from that point on.

Probably one of the biggest thing about this whole pandemic restrictions thing is the inconsistencies in the rule makers and enforcers. Logic would dictate if  person had a campground wristband he had already, 1 proved he had a ticket & 2 been fully vaccinated  ::) 3 gates enforcing one rule differently ::)

Tuesday I noticed none of the merchandise stores were wearing masks nor enforcing customers to wear one but Wednesday they were, I asked the young lady at the t8 store did they get sprung she smiled and said yea they ALL did  :D

Are people checking tickets volunteers? Are they instructed by volunteers?
If so should attendees be grateful they're doing their best and helping keep ticket prices low?
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on December 11, 2021, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: djr18fan on December 11, 2021, 11:22:40 AM
Quote from: fordman on December 11, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: Kytabu on December 11, 2021, 08:16:46 AM
We had to show our vaccination status and ticket every time we went through the main gate down the bottom, even though we had to show both of those to get our McPhillamy wristbands. The woman thought I was being a smartass when she asked for my ticket and I just held my wristband up.

In February I'm fairly sure that once we had the camping wristband we didn't have to show our tickets at any gate from that point on.



Probably one of the biggest thing about this whole pandemic restrictions thing is the inconsistencies in the rule makers and enforcers. Logic would dictate if  person had a campground wristband he had already, 1 proved he had a ticket & 2 been fully vaccinated  ::) 3 gates enforcing one rule differently ::)

Tuesday I noticed none of the merchandise stores were wearing masks nor enforcing customers to wear one but Wednesday they were, I asked the young lady at the t8 store did they get sprung she smiled and said yea they ALL did  :D

Are people checking tickets volunteers? Are they instructed by volunteers?
If so should attendees be grateful they're doing their best and helping keep ticket prices low?

Paid security checked QR and Vax status, usual SC ppl did the checking of tickets, regardless of status still required to enforce rules, would have been ok if they followed the rule consistently. it was obvious they were briefed differently.
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 12, 2021, 06:05:43 AM
Quote from: fordman on December 11, 2021, 05:51:56 AM
Upon entry to campground after proving cax status was given pink arm band, told this would get us in the gates without having to reprove status, logical. Day 1 worked ok, day 2 was told at entry gate needed a black wrist band to prove same thing as the pink one ::) told to go to front gate info point, did so was told this was wrong was never challenged again, but saw plenty of black wrist bands as well as colored.
we were given a blue wrist band for Reid Sulman campground, I went out Friday and when I came back in no other wristband - just waved me through with the blue one
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: Trevor on December 12, 2021, 06:08:31 AM
Quote from: fordman on December 11, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
Probably one of the biggest thing about this whole pandemic restrictions thing is the inconsistencies in the rule makers and enforcers. Logic would dictate if  person had a campground wristband he had already, 1 proved he had a ticket & 2 been fully vaccinated  ::) 3 gates enforcing one rule differently ::)

Tuesday I noticed none of the merchandise stores were wearing masks nor enforcing customers to wear one but Wednesday they were, I asked the young lady at the t8 store did they get sprung she smiled and said yea they ALL did  :D
I am not sure what the rules around masks in NSW but in Victoria you have to wear them in any 'retail' outlet, so not cafes restaurants etc, doctors/hospitals and public transport - that's it - I would see the merchandise area as 'retail', but it is NSW
Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on December 12, 2021, 08:25:48 AM
Quote from: Trevor on December 12, 2021, 06:08:31 AM
Quote from: fordman on December 11, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
Probably one of the biggest thing about this whole pandemic restrictions thing is the inconsistencies in the rule makers and enforcers. Logic would dictate if  person had a campground wristband he had already, 1 proved he had a ticket & 2 been fully vaccinated  ::) 3 gates enforcing one rule differently ::)

Tuesday I noticed none of the merchandise stores were wearing masks nor enforcing customers to wear one but Wednesday they were, I asked the young lady at the t8 store did they get sprung she smiled and said yea they ALL did  :D
I am not sure what the rules around masks in NSW but in Victoria you have to wear them in any 'retail' outlet, so not cafes restaurants etc, doctors/hospitals and public transport - that's it - I would see the merchandise area as 'retail', but it is NSW

Thats the rule here as well, I think they they got away with it day 1 but not afterwards.

Title: Re: 2021 Bathurst 1000 (spoliers)
Post by: fordman on December 12, 2021, 09:13:32 AM
Quote from: Trevor on December 12, 2021, 06:05:43 AM
Quote from: fordman on December 11, 2021, 05:51:56 AM
Upon entry to campground after proving cax status was given pink arm band, told this would get us in the gates without having to reprove status, logical. Day 1 worked ok, day 2 was told at entry gate needed a black wrist band to prove same thing as the pink one ::) told to go to front gate info point, did so was told this was wrong was never challenged again, but saw plenty of black wrist bands as well as colored.
we were given a blue wrist band for Reid Sulman campground, I went out Friday and when I came back in no other wristband - just waved me through with the blue one

And thats what it should have been, I wasn't challenged after day 2 with regards to this "black" armband.