Speedcafe are posting the results of their annual fan survey.
Part 1: Attending the Event (http://ttps://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/10/survey-support-category-racing-is-more-important-to-fans-than-ever/)
The most enjoyable part of attending an event, aside from Supercars racing: Support category racing
Access to teams/drivers at a Supercars event: Good
Are you wary of attending large-scale motorsport events with crowds?: No
Part 2: Favourite Teams/Liveries (https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/11/survey-djr-crowned-most-popular-supercars-team/)
Most popular team in Supercars: DJR
Favourite livery from 2021 Supercars season: DJR
Part 3: Favourite Driver (https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/12/survey-van-gisbergen-voted-most-popular-supercars-driver/)
Favourite Supercars driver: SVG
What or who do you primarily support as a Supercars fan?: Team, just over drivers.
Part 4: Best permanent motorsport facility in Australia (https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/13/survey-australias-best-permanent-motorsport-facility-revealed/)
The best permanent motorsport facility dedicated to racing in Australia: Phillip Island
Part 5: Australia's favourite support category (https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/14/survey-tcm-voted-the-premier-supercars-support-category/)
Current Supercars support categories fans enjoy the most: TCM
Which support categories would you like to see more of at Supercars events: S5000
Part 6: Best commentator/presenter (https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/15/survey-crompton-larkham-dominate-best-presenter-vote/)
Best presenter/commentator in Australian motorsport: Neil Crompton
Part 7: Sponsor/brand activation (https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/16/survey-how-sponsors-influence-supercars-fans-habits/)
Has following Supercars made you aware of brands you had not previously heard of?: Yes
If a brand sponsors a team I like, I am more likely to buy their product: Neutral
If a brand sponsors a team I do not like, I am less likely to buy their product: Neutral
What competitions and offers from sponsors are you most likely to respond to?: Tickets to an event
Amazing the amount of 'none in particular' or 'haven't thought about it' answers there are ???
Amazing DJR won the best livery, isn't it the same livery from 3 years ago? :P
Favourite driver will be interesting - Mostert? Surely not one of the DJR drivers...
Quote from: murph_fan51 on January 11, 2022, 05:49:18 PM
Amazing DJR won the best livery, isn't it the same livery from 3 years ago? :P
Favourite driver will be interesting - Mostert? Surely not one of the DJR drivers...
When you're on a good thing...
could even see somebody like Will Brown getting the nod, carries that infectiousness to him (is that a bad word these days? :P LOL!!)
maybe even JDub as a nod on his way out the door? (though he and Giz are polarizing but they do have big support)
can't see either of the DJR boys getting it.
will be an interesting one
It seems that WAU are cannibalizing some of the T8 support base, given their resurgence...and Chaz is certainly more marketable than SVG....and maybe the Lowndes effect is subsiding too...
Shell livery as best is a surprise....but it is a classic....
Though DJR is the outright leader, the support for T8 & WAU combined shows the reds have the larger support base overall...
Quote from: REM on January 12, 2022, 10:25:50 AM
It seems that WAU are cannibalizing some of the T8 support base, given their resurgence...and Chaz is certainly more marketable than SVG....and maybe the Lowndes effect is subsiding too...
Shell livery as best is a surprise....but it is a classic....
Though DJR is the outright leader, the support for T8 & WAU combined shows the reds have the larger support base overall...
Only after 888 cannibalised HRT/WAU first.
You can do the same by adding Tickford to DJR, and Ford are back on top.
My guess favourite driver, either Chaz, SVG or Waters. Brown and AdP as smokey's.
Funny thing is, if Lowndes name was up on the poll, he'd probably still win! 8) The pulling power that guy still has.
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It seems that WAU are cannibalizing some of the T8 support base, given their resurgence...and Chaz is certainly more marketable than SVG....and maybe the Lowndes effect is subsiding too...
Shell livery as best is a surprise....but it is a classic....
Though DJR is the outright leader, the support for T8 & WAU combined shows the reds have the larger support base overall...
GM should still have larger support numbers simply by numbers on the grid. Less guys for you to support.
Although it would be interesting to see if numbers have dropped off since they dropped off the H...
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SVG- %16.5,which is much what you expect....from Mostert %10.8 again as you would expect... Cam %7.5 and ADP %8.5 pretty close!
How about poor old Frosty on %2.42...he use to have such a following...
DR on %7 is interesting too! Picking up the Djokovic vote :D
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SVG- %16.5,which is much what you expect....from Mostert %10.8 again as you would expect... Cam %7.5 and ADP %8.5 pretty close!
How about poor old Frosty on %2.42...he use to have such a following...
DR on %7 is interesting too! Picking up the Djokovic vote :D
Reynolds a big surprise. I guess that's why Penrite followed him.
Yeah, your old mate Frosty took a hit when he went to the red side.
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SVG- %16.5,which is much what you expect....from Mostert %10.8 again as you would expect... Cam %7.5 and ADP %8.5 pretty close!
How about poor old Frosty on %2.42...he use to have such a following...
DR on %7 is interesting too! Picking up the Djokovic vote :D
Reynolds a big surprise. I guess that's why Penrite followed him.
Yeah, your old mate Frosty took a hit when he went to the red side.
Frosty's popularity has followed his results.... ;) :D
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SVG- %16.5,which is much what you expect....from Mostert %10.8 again as you would expect... Cam %7.5 and ADP %8.5 pretty close!
How about poor old Frosty on %2.42...he use to have such a following...
DR on %7 is interesting too! Picking up the Djokovic vote :D
Reynolds a big surprise. I guess that's why Penrite followed him.
Yeah, your old mate Frosty took a hit when he went to the red side.
The Penrite livery has been well received for a couple of years. Maybe Reynolds picked up some extra votes based on the cars livery.
Certainly i would have though he deserved a lot less less, based on resul s and personality, but that is why they have voting to get a result. A lot of very good drivers in so-so liveries deserved to get a lot more votes. I only got one vote and guess where it did not go. ;D
Some interesting results there. Reynolds surprised me again.. he polled well last year too. Frosty is an interesting one... clearly results have a large part to play but I wonder if he would have dropped off in popularity if he was driving for a b grade ford team instead of a b grade holden team. It's hard to carry the loyal fan across the great ford/holden divide, especially when the results aren't there. Similarly many holden fans have spent years wanting him to be beaten and while I reckon he's a ripper bloke, it's hard to change your tune sometimes!
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Picking up the Djokovic vote :D
There's certainly a bunch of them swarming around the Speedcafe comment sections.
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SVG- %16.5,which is much what you expect....from Mostert %10.8 again as you would expect... Cam %7.5 and ADP %8.5 pretty close!
How about poor old Frosty on %2.42...he use to have such a following...
DR on %7 is interesting too! Picking up the Djokovic vote :D
Reynolds a big surprise. I guess that's why Penrite followed him.
Yeah, your old mate Frosty took a hit when he went to the red side.
Frosty's popularity has followed his results.... ;) :D
Frostys fanbase dropped immediately when Scotty moved to Ford and rightfully so. He was the best to come along since Lowndes in 94. Once frosty jumped ship to Holden he lost out again, Ford fans moved on to bigger and better drivers and Holden fans were still dirty that he was a Tickford driver.
Davey may be the alleged drop kick clown but no surprise he is where he is. He won over all the anti-vax and all the brain dead bogans that find him funny regardless of the manufacturer they support.
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SVG- %16.5,which is much what you expect....from Mostert %10.8 again as you would expect... Cam %7.5 and ADP %8.5 pretty close!
How about poor old Frosty on %2.42...he use to have such a following...
DR on %7 is interesting too! Picking up the Djokovic vote :D
Reynolds a big surprise. I guess that's why Penrite followed him.
Yeah, your old mate Frosty took a hit when he went to the red side.
Frosty's popularity has followed his results.... ;) :D
Frostys fanbase dropped immediately when Scotty moved to Ford and rightfully so. He was the best to come along since Lowndes in 94. Once frosty jumped ship to Holden he lost out again, Ford fans moved on to bigger and better drivers and Holden fans were still dirty that he was a Tickford driver.
Davey may be the alleged drop kick clown but no surprise he is where he is. He won over all the anti-vax and all the brain dead bogans that find him funny regardless of the manufacturer they support.
Interesting point about the Holden fans still being dirty with Frosty as a former Tickford driver.....so why the great love in from them for "cough ya bastard, cough"".. Chaz?
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SVG- %16.5,which is much what you expect....from Mostert %10.8 again as you would expect... Cam %7.5 and ADP %8.5 pretty close!
How about poor old Frosty on %2.42...he use to have such a following...
DR on %7 is interesting too! Picking up the Djokovic vote :D
Reynolds a big surprise. I guess that's why Penrite followed him.
Yeah, your old mate Frosty took a hit when he went to the red side.
Frosty's popularity has followed his results.... ;) :D
Frostys fanbase dropped immediately when Scotty moved to Ford and rightfully so. He was the best to come along since Lowndes in 94. Once frosty jumped ship to Holden he lost out again, Ford fans moved on to bigger and better drivers and Holden fans were still dirty that he was a Tickford driver.
Davey may be the alleged drop kick clown but no surprise he is where he is. He won over all the anti-vax and all the brain dead bogans that find him funny regardless of the manufacturer they support.
Interesting point about the Holden fans still being dirty with Frosty as a former Tickford driver.....so why the great love in from them for "cough ya bastard, cough"".. Chaz?
It'd be fair to say that Chaz sat in the shadow of Frosty and then McLaughlin, so didn't have the airtime to rub the Red brigade the wrong way.
A Bathurst win in the new team always helps ;) 8).
I don't think many holden fans ever hated frosty or for that matter Chaz. I've always seen frosty as a really nice guy who just drove the wrong car, Chaz is a bit the same imho. If it was someone arrogant like Ambrose though I would be less forgiving!
Quote from: Skip on January 14, 2022, 11:51:22 AM
I don't think many holden fans ever hated frosty or for that matter Chaz. I've always seen frosty as a really nice guy who just drove the wrong car, Chaz is a bit the same imho. If it was someone arrogant like Ambrose though I would be less forgiving!
Chaz actually jumped ship to go to the red side. His call. He is an up and comer with his whole future ahead of him. Frosty, on the other hand, albeit a nice guy, saw the writing on the wall and took to the red side as Plan B while his career had peaked and he was on the back slope heading down. Kind of like Courtney these days - who will give me the best deal to finish this whole career out?
No brainer for the Holden fans to jump on the Chaz bandwagon. Hell.... if I were them, I would do the same.
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Quote from: Skip on January 14, 2022, 11:51:22 AM
I don't think many holden fans ever hated frosty or for that matter Chaz. I've always seen frosty as a really nice guy who just drove the wrong car, Chaz is a bit the same imho. If it was someone arrogant like Ambrose though I would be less forgiving!
Chaz actually jumped ship to go to the red side. His call. He is an up and comer with his whole future ahead of him. Frosty, on the other hand, albeit a nice guy, saw the writing on the wall and took to the red side as Plan B while his career had peaked and he was on the back slope heading down. Kind of like Courtney these days - who will give me the best deal to finish this whole career out?
No brainer for the Holden fans to jump on the Chaz bandwagon. Hell.... if I were them, I would do the same.
"Chaz an up an comer-with his whole future ahead of him!!" He is pretty much 30, he realistically has 3-5 good top end years left, he'll probably have children in a few years and lose half a second like they all do.....but I agree Frosty is pretty much past it...
I think WAU would have pretty much the oldest average age driver line yeah(actually JC & CW is 68 versus 63 for WAU CM and NP)? They will need to get it together and pretty quick....
Has any driver in Supercars ever won their first championship at age 30 or over? Bowie was just on 40 I think.....but that wasn't in supercar period.....
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Quote from: Skip on January 14, 2022, 11:51:22 AM
I don't think many holden fans ever hated frosty or for that matter Chaz. I've always seen frosty as a really nice guy who just drove the wrong car, Chaz is a bit the same imho. If it was someone arrogant like Ambrose though I would be less forgiving!
Chaz actually jumped ship to go to the red side. His call. He is an up and comer with his whole future ahead of him. Frosty, on the other hand, albeit a nice guy, saw the writing on the wall and took to the red side as Plan B while his career had peaked and he was on the back slope heading down. Kind of like Courtney these days - who will give me the best deal to finish this whole career out?
No brainer for the Holden fans to jump on the Chaz bandwagon. Hell.... if I were them, I would do the same.
"Chaz an up an comer-with his whole future ahead of him!!" He is pretty much 30, he realistically has 3-5 good top end years left, he'll probably have children in a few years and lose half a second like they all do.....but I agree Frosty is pretty much past it...
I think WAU would have pretty much the oldest average age driver line yeah(actually JC & CW is 68 versus 63 for WAU CM and NP)? They will need to get it together and pretty quick....
Has any driver in Supercars ever won their first championship at age 30 or over? Bowie was just on 40 I think.....but that wasn't in supercar period.....
Off the top of my head, surely Ingall was 30+, maybe even Tander? Courtney would've been close-ish too?
Update:Ingall was 41 in 2005.
Tander was 30 in 2007.
Courtney was 30 in 2010.
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Quote from: Skip on January 14, 2022, 11:51:22 AM
I don't think many holden fans ever hated frosty or for that matter Chaz. I've always seen frosty as a really nice guy who just drove the wrong car, Chaz is a bit the same imho. If it was someone arrogant like Ambrose though I would be less forgiving!
Chaz actually jumped ship to go to the red side. His call. He is an up and comer with his whole future ahead of him. Frosty, on the other hand, albeit a nice guy, saw the writing on the wall and took to the red side as Plan B while his career had peaked and he was on the back slope heading down. Kind of like Courtney these days - who will give me the best deal to finish this whole career out?
No brainer for the Holden fans to jump on the Chaz bandwagon. Hell.... if I were them, I would do the same.
"Chaz an up an comer-with his whole future ahead of him!!" He is pretty much 30, he realistically has 3-5 good top end years left, he'll probably have children in a few years and lose half a second like they all do.....but I agree Frosty is pretty much past it...
I think WAU would have pretty much the oldest average age driver line yeah(actually JC & CW is 68 versus 63 for WAU CM and NP)? They will need to get it together and pretty quick....
Has any driver in Supercars ever won their first championship at age 30 or over? Bowie was just on 40 I think.....but that wasn't in supercar period.....
Off the top of my head, surely Ingall was 30+, maybe even Tander? Courtney would've been close-ish too?
Update:
Ingall was 41 in 2005.
Tander was 30 in 2007.
Courtney was 30 in 2010.
Ohh....nice work, forgot about Rusty....so there has been one, over 30......
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I don't think many holden fans ever hated frosty or for that matter Chaz. I've always seen frosty as a really nice guy who just drove the wrong car, Chaz is a bit the same imho. If it was someone arrogant like Ambrose though I would be less forgiving!
Chaz actually jumped ship to go to the red side. His call. He is an up and comer with his whole future ahead of him. Frosty, on the other hand, albeit a nice guy, saw the writing on the wall and took to the red side as Plan B while his career had peaked and he was on the back slope heading down. Kind of like Courtney these days - who will give me the best deal to finish this whole career out?
No brainer for the Holden fans to jump on the Chaz bandwagon. Hell.... if I were them, I would do the same.
"Chaz an up an comer-with his whole future ahead of him!!" He is pretty much 30, he realistically has 3-5 good top end years left, he'll probably have children in a few years and lose half a second like they all do.....but I agree Frosty is pretty much past it...
I think WAU would have pretty much the oldest average age driver line yeah(actually JC & CW is 68 versus 63 for WAU CM and NP)? They will need to get it together and pretty quick....
Has any driver in Supercars ever won their first championship at age 30 or over? Bowie was just on 40 I think.....but that wasn't in supercar period.....
Off the top of my head, surely Ingall was 30+, maybe even Tander? Courtney would've been close-ish too?
Update:
Ingall was 41 in 2005.
Tander was 30 in 2007.
Courtney was 30 in 2010.
Ohh....nice work, forgot about Rusty....so there has been one, over 30......
Haven't got my glasses on.
Is that over 30 or over 80? :) :) :)
Surely J Dub was 32 or 33 when he won his last championship?
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Surely J Dub was 32 or 33 when he won his last championship?
But I was talking about people winning their "first" championship at 30 and over.....
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Surely J Dub was 32 or 33 when he won his last championship?
But I was talking about people winning their "first" championship at 30 and over.....
Oh right :o While I can see 30 and over winning their
first championship, can't say over 40 will be doable again?
I'm still surprised SVG is voted the most popular. I'd give my vote to Chaz or Will Brown.
I wonder what the survey's answers would be if it was to all motorsport enthusiasts rather than just those who frequent Speedcafe?
Also wonder where SC would come in that ranking if they were game enough to include it?
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Surely J Dub was 32 or 33 when he won his last championship?
But I was talking about people winning their "first" championship at 30 and over.....
Oh right :o While I can see 30 and over winning their first championship, can't say over 40 will be doable again?
I'm still surprised SVG is voted the most popular. I'd give my vote to Chaz or Will Brown.
I reckon anything is possible.....but if you haven't won one by 30, it's increasingly unlikely.....Chaz is hardly a star of the future....his time is now.....hard to see him topping SVG in the next year or two, but it's possible, I guess....."the whole future ahead of them" is ADP, Feeney, Payne, Will Brown...and Brodie...
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SVG- %16.5,which is much what you expect....from Mostert %10.8 again as you would expect... Cam %7.5 and ADP %8.5 pretty close!
How about poor old Frosty on %2.42...he use to have such a following...
DR on %7 is interesting too! Picking up the Djokovic vote :D
Reynolds a big surprise. I guess that's why Penrite followed him.
Yeah, your old mate Frosty took a hit when he went to the red side.
Frosty's popularity has followed his results.... ;) :D
Frostys fanbase dropped immediately when Scotty moved to Ford and rightfully so. He was the best to come along since Lowndes in 94. Once frosty jumped ship to Holden he lost out again, Ford fans moved on to bigger and better drivers and Holden fans were still dirty that he was a Tickford driver.
Davey may be the alleged drop kick clown but no surprise he is where he is. He won over all the anti-vax and all the brain dead bogans that find him funny regardless of the manufacturer they support.
Interesting point about the Holden fans still being dirty with Frosty as a former Tickford driver.....so why the great love in from them for "cough ya bastard, cough"".. Chaz?
Frosty was the blue sides god for quite sometime which is probably why so many Red men despised him and he had a totally different personality to Chaz. Chaz has always been a happy, friendly, likeable bloke even whilst driving for the enemy and winning a Bathurst, most of us still
Applauded him and were stoked he snatched the win.
As for the evil fella who ran out of fuel, many Holden fans have always hated him. Even Holden seen him as an arrogant prick, a cockhead, egotistical flog and many other things but not the hard working dude that was all business, so dedicated and gave it so much that 2nd was seen as a failure. He has relaxed a hell of a lot these last 5 years as won a few more people over but for most, it was to late.
Me I've always admired Jdub whether he be Ford or Holden just because he put so much effort into being the best, much like Skaifey back in the day. Chaz, how could anyone not cheer him on for both his Bathurst wins, both were unbelievably great in their own ways. Frosty, not a fan but can tolerate him, I can cheer him on for a pass but not often for a win.
Anyways, that's enough whisky talk. Back on to the poll
Crompo comes out as the top presenter, with Larko closely behind.
Then daylight...........
...........back to Skaifey, Tander and Lowndes.
Interestingly, Ingall comes in at 6th despite only hosting his YouTube channel and Riana Crehan ranks far higher than Charli Robinson.