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Title: 2022 Season
Post by: skaifeman on February 03, 2022, 12:53:12 PM
Season launch was today at SMP.
Fabs will appear in the 'celebrity' Stan sponsored Honda. Stan will hold the TV rights - they seem to be making a big move in the fringe sporting market, challenging Foxtel.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/02/03/arg-stan-sport-strike-landmark-deal/

(https://media3.speedcafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/ARGStanSport_00240_Canon-EOS-R5_Jack_Martin-Photography.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on February 03, 2022, 12:57:21 PM
and from the quick read I had this morning 9... gets late repeats?

so they are throwing away the casual watcher... seems they don't learn :S
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: stevo qld on February 03, 2022, 02:28:37 PM
The worst thing is that Channel 9 transmission will be studded with previews of absolute **** programs, just as they did with the tennis. >:(
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Joe5619 on February 03, 2022, 02:38:47 PM
Didn't read the whole article, but from what I did read, they are going done the same path as Supercars (And every other sport in the country) of PayTV as main provider & FTA as 2nd provider...

What will the whingers say about this, let me get my pop corn!!

Personally I think it's great this category has grown from having to pay to be on TV, to getting pay to be on TV.. good news!

what are the Stan fees?
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Roadways6 on February 03, 2022, 07:39:42 PM
Crazy decision for a category with no level ground at the moment. Most punters barely even knows it exists, let alone are wanting to pay to watch it.

Didn't read the whole article, but from what I did read, they are going done the same path as Supercars (And every other sport in the country) of PayTV as main provider & FTA as 2nd provider...

What will the whingers say about this, let me get my pop corn!!

Personally I think it's great this category has grown from having to pay to be on TV, to getting pay to be on TV.. good news!

what are the Stan fees?

For Stan Sport it’s $10 on top of whatever base package you already have, so maximum $30 a month.
We’ll worth the money
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on February 03, 2022, 08:20:04 PM
and how much does that become once you add it to however many other subscriptions you have?

I go to too many events to spend even more on any pay service. If it's not on advertiser funded tv (what some call FTA) then I won't be watching it.

Lucky for me I'll still see them a few times with racing on in Vic that I'll get to and enjoy my dose of ARG events but that'll be it.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: madbugger on February 03, 2022, 08:48:34 PM
I already have Kayo and Netflix, I cannot justify another $20-24 a month for a tv subscription, so they have lost me
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: SetonFan on February 03, 2022, 09:08:11 PM
Everyone complained at the time but it was far better as a multi-sport fan when Foxtel had a monopoly of sports - it's only going to get worse and worse with sports spread across more streaming platforms.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Alan59 on February 04, 2022, 07:52:22 AM
Commercial suicide.Stan Sports only goes into 7% of households.About 20% of the reach of Fox Sports/Kayo.
2 Hour midweek highlights packages on 9 will have a viewing audience of marginal proportions.And by the way it’s not 2 hours.Take out 25 minutes for ads,track guides and 20 minutes at least for talking heads and “human interest” stories and you are left with 70-75 minutes of racing.If they are going to cover the core ARG categories of TCR,S5000,TCM,TransAm and GT that gives us about 4-5 minutes a race.
Except for the meetings I attend it’s goodbye ARG from me.I enjoyed it while it lasted but I’m not going to pay for multiple platforms just for motor racing and Stan’s offerings hardly compete with F1 and Moto GP.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: skaifeman on February 04, 2022, 09:31:31 AM
Foxtel was borderline for Supercars, and that was for a well established series and a well established pay TV provider.
ARG/TCR and Stan are the opposite, both starting out.

I for one won't be signing up for Stan just for the ARG series'. You lose all the 'TV surfers' and also casual viewers (myself).
That might be the ARG target market though, maybe they've found that only the hardcore watch them anyway? Surely they'd be basing this decision as a balance of data/business growth/TV income.



Will Brown will take Mostert's seat. Surely that has to be the combo to beat.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/02/06/brown-replaces-mostert-in-audi-tcr-team/
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: billybanana on February 10, 2022, 02:46:10 PM
I signed up as soon as they announced it. Yes hardcore motor racing fan, combined with the UCL, it was enough to get me in.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: mikeamerica84 on February 13, 2022, 12:43:10 PM
Nice watch I had of the opening 2022 race.  No spoliers, of course but I am looking forward to tomorrow's action.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Troy01505 on February 13, 2022, 06:58:44 PM
I watched some on FTA yesterday along with a few other categories. Was bull**** with the amount of ads!

Is Stan ad free?
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: skaifeman on February 13, 2022, 10:09:32 PM
I watched some on FTA yesterday along with a few other categories. Was bull**** with the amount of ads!

Is Stan ad free?

Stan is ad free.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Roadways6 on February 14, 2022, 09:17:13 AM
Was bull**** with the amount of ads!

The same amount of ads that FTA has had for the last 50 odd years?
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on February 14, 2022, 01:42:46 PM
I watched some on FTA yesterday along with a few other categories. Was bull**** with the amount of ads!

Is Stan ad free?

I had no issue with the ads... but then again, there were so many safety cars you didn't miss anything...

Plus the bonus of ads is less commentary
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: V8SuperRiley on March 03, 2022, 02:27:50 PM
I tried watching round 1, but it's not appealing to me. There were more laps under caution than actually racing.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on March 03, 2022, 04:52:44 PM
I tried watching round 1, but it's not appealing to me. There were more laps under caution than actually racing.

that was a big negative for the series weekend for a lot of folk it seems... hopefully Phillip Island in a few weeks gives us a lot of racing and minimal interuptions!
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: TheArrow on March 16, 2022, 08:42:32 PM
21 cars is a good size grid for PI. Hopefully puts on some good racing.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on March 16, 2022, 10:40:34 PM
21 cars is a good size grid for PI. Hopefully puts on some good racing.

looking forward to it :) will be there for the weekend giving my camera a good workout!
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: stevo qld on March 16, 2022, 11:03:31 PM
21 cars is a good size grid for PI. Hopefully puts on some good racing.

Funny thing. 21 cars is a good grid, but Supercars is a small grid at 23. ::) :o
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: TheArrow on March 18, 2022, 05:43:25 PM
21 cars is a good size grid for PI. Hopefully puts on some good racing.

Funny thing. 21 cars is a good grid, but Supercars is a small grid at 23. ::) :o

Supercars is a series with 50+ years of history.

TCR started 3yrs ago (minus 2020 which we don't talk about) and is not an established championship yet.

Huge difference between the two.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on March 19, 2022, 06:00:22 PM
21 cars is a good size grid for PI. Hopefully puts on some good racing.

Funny thing. 21 cars is a good grid, but Supercars is a small grid at 23. ::) :o

and as sucky as it is to have a single digit S5000 grid they are still good to watch and capture the imagination... just hope that there does come a time when it really does fire up because it is a good category
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: V8SuperRiley on March 22, 2022, 05:27:15 PM
21 cars is a good size grid for PI. Hopefully puts on some good racing.

Funny thing. 21 cars is a good grid, but Supercars is a small grid at 23. ::) :o

and as sucky as it is to have a single digit S5000 grid they are still good to watch and capture the imagination... just hope that there does come a time when it really does fire up because it is a good category

Give me a 9 car S5000 field over a 21 car TCR field any day.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on March 22, 2022, 06:02:46 PM
21 cars is a good size grid for PI. Hopefully puts on some good racing.

Funny thing. 21 cars is a good grid, but Supercars is a small grid at 23. ::) :o

and as sucky as it is to have a single digit S5000 grid they are still good to watch and capture the imagination... just hope that there does come a time when it really does fire up because it is a good category

Give me a 9 car S5000 field over a 21 car TCR field any day.

think I heard 17 S5000s at the GP in a few weeks. hopefully they put on a good show. IF they can keep it clean I reckon they will be the highlight of the weekend and easily outshine the F1 show.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: stevo qld on March 22, 2022, 06:42:47 PM
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think I heard 17 S5000s at the GP in a few weeks. hopefully they put on a good show. IF they can keep it clean I reckon they will be the highlight of the weekend and easily outshine the F1 show.

I read recently that Barry Rogers was hinting that the whole S5000 series could be sold overseas if entry numbers did not pick up.
His hint must have worked.

As I recall, there are only 18 chassis made.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Alan59 on March 22, 2022, 08:08:58 PM
21 cars is a good size grid for PI. Hopefully puts on some good racing.

Funny thing. 21 cars is a good grid, but Supercars is a small grid at 23. ::) :o

and as sucky as it is to have a single digit S5000 grid they are still good to watch and capture the imagination... just hope that there does come a time when it really does fire up because it is a good category

Give me a 9 car S5000 field over a 21 car TCR field any day.

think I heard 17 S5000s at the GP in a few weeks. hopefully they put on a good show. IF they can keep it clean I reckon they will be the highlight of the weekend and easily outshine the F1 show.
I’m guessing this may be meant as humour.
Otherwise how would cars lapping 30 seconds a lap slower and driven by people not remotely good enough to be anywhere near a F1 car outshine the Grand Prix?
Especially given the intensity and fantastic racing in F1 over the last year.
Before anyone gets excited about the 17 cars being any sort of marker for later meetings remember there were 20+ F4’s at Albert Park in 2019 a few months before the series folded.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on March 22, 2022, 08:26:29 PM
21 cars is a good size grid for PI. Hopefully puts on some good racing.

Funny thing. 21 cars is a good grid, but Supercars is a small grid at 23. ::) :o

and as sucky as it is to have a single digit S5000 grid they are still good to watch and capture the imagination... just hope that there does come a time when it really does fire up because it is a good category

Give me a 9 car S5000 field over a 21 car TCR field any day.

think I heard 17 S5000s at the GP in a few weeks. hopefully they put on a good show. IF they can keep it clean I reckon they will be the highlight of the weekend and easily outshine the F1 show.
I’m guessing this may be meant as humour.
Otherwise how would cars lapping 30 seconds a lap slower and driven by people not remotely good enough to be anywhere near a F1 car outshine the Grand Prix?
Especially given the intensity and fantastic racing in F1 over the last year.
Before anyone gets excited about the 17 cars being any sort of marker for later meetings remember there were 20+ F4’s at Albert Park in 2019 a few months before the series folded.

first up, you'll be able to hear them ;) :P

of course F1 will be what people go to see, they are the 'name' drivers...

it will be interesting to see the actual lap time differences between 2022 F1 and the S5000 cars (and who is driving them?)

as for the comparison between S5000 and F4... there is no comparison other than they both started with very low numbers... the difference is that folk do come to the fenceline when the S5000s are on track.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Alan59 on March 22, 2022, 09:18:20 PM
S5000 were slower around Bathurst than F3 was when it competed there so that is a guide.
I have been to 3 meetings where S5000 has been on-not counting Thursday at Albert Park 2020.The overall impression of people I have been with was that the cars are good  but little future for a class that struggles to get grids of double figures in its 4th year.Different impression at Bathurst where everyone thought they were bordering on farcical.
Returning to topic the Phillip Island Speed Series highlights are on GEM tomorrow morning at 10am.What happened to prime time scheduling mentioned in the initial press release?No weekend replay either which was also mentioned in that release.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: stevo qld on March 22, 2022, 09:32:15 PM
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Returning to topic the Phillip Island Speed Series highlights are on GEM tomorrow morning at 10am.What happened to prime time scheduling mentioned in the initial press release?No weekend replay either which was also mentioned in that release.

thanks for the heads up. i have now set the recorder to the rather bland and anonymous "Speed Series".

That
s worth an "Applaud" good point for you. ;D
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on March 22, 2022, 09:53:45 PM
S5000 were slower around Bathurst than F3 was when it competed there so that is a guide.
I have been to 3 meetings where S5000 has been on-not counting Thursday at Albert Park 2020.The overall impression of people I have been with was that the cars are good  but little future for a class that struggles to get grids of double figures in its 4th year.Different impression at Bathurst where everyone thought they were bordering on farcical.
Returning to topic the Phillip Island Speed Series highlights are on GEM tomorrow morning at 10am.What happened to prime time scheduling mentioned in the initial press release?No weekend replay either which was also mentioned in that release.

think I saw it was also replays on Sat/Sun when folk will be watching a different series... almost like they want the fta coverage to fall over with those scheduled times

**Sat at 1230, Sun at 130 on Go
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Alan59 on March 22, 2022, 10:15:11 PM
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Returning to topic the Phillip Island Speed Series highlights are on GEM tomorrow morning at 10am.What happened to prime time scheduling mentioned in the initial press release?No weekend replay either which was also mentioned in that release.

thanks for the heads up. i have now set the recorder to the rather bland and anonymous "Speed Series".

That
s worth an "Applaud" good point for you. ;D
Also Texas Indycar at 2pm Wednesday on GO and Sebring WEC on Saturday at 2.30pm also on GO.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Alan59 on March 23, 2022, 01:37:17 PM
Well although the electronic program guide said I’d recorded Speed Series what was screened were repeats of Getaway,quiz shows etc.
All round great work by 9 and ARG.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Alan59 on March 23, 2022, 04:59:05 PM
9 showed the Indycar highlights as scheduled.I’m guessing this is all on ARG.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: TheArrow on April 15, 2022, 10:45:00 AM
Nice to see Luke King back in the field. Met him at SMP last season, he's from my home town and was chatting with us for ages. Very approachable and up for a chat and a photo. Let us into the garage to get a pic with the car.

Only reason the conversation ended was because he was called to the stewards room.

Hoping he get's some good results for the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: mikeamerica84 on April 15, 2022, 08:50:48 PM
Sladey is the next "guest" Supercars driver to enter the fray this round. 

Looking forward to the whole weekend from this side of the sphere.....
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: mikeamerica84 on August 03, 2022, 09:15:19 PM
QR this weekend after quite a few months off.  I'll be giving it a look for sure.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: mikeamerica84 on September 17, 2022, 11:40:26 AM
Sandown this weekend, boys.  I tell you, Aus TCR is worth a watch.  If I am watching it from HERE, you should be watching it from THERE.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on September 17, 2022, 06:28:27 PM
Sandown this weekend, boys.  I tell you, Aus TCR is worth a watch.  If I am watching it from HERE, you should be watching it from THERE.

well what'd you think? I got drenched!! and then hailed on to top it off at the end of their race...

loading my pics now to see what I got of that last lap t6 slide (when it started I had images in my head of another 86 moment!)
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: mikeamerica84 on September 17, 2022, 11:26:48 PM
Sandown this weekend, boys.  I tell you, Aus TCR is worth a watch.  If I am watching it from HERE, you should be watching it from THERE.

well what'd you think? I got drenched!! and then hailed on to top it off at the end of their race...

loading my pics now to see what I got of that last lap t6 slide (when it started I had images in my head of another 86 moment!)

No.  I am waiting patiently for my source to provide it to me.  Maybe by the end of the day here?  ~14 hours behind you.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on September 18, 2022, 06:09:44 PM
Sandown this weekend, boys.  I tell you, Aus TCR is worth a watch.  If I am watching it from HERE, you should be watching it from THERE.

well what'd you think? I got drenched!! and then hailed on to top it off at the end of their race...

loading my pics now to see what I got of that last lap t6 slide (when it started I had images in my head of another 86 moment!)

No.  I am waiting patiently for my source to provide it to me.  Maybe by the end of the day here?  ~14 hours behind you.

an even bigger drenching today... I am soaked! got some cool air shots in the final tcr race... keep an eye on my photo page :)
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: mikeamerica84 on September 19, 2022, 11:32:58 PM
Sandown this weekend, boys.  I tell you, Aus TCR is worth a watch.  If I am watching it from HERE, you should be watching it from THERE.

well what'd you think? I got drenched!! and then hailed on to top it off at the end of their race...

loading my pics now to see what I got of that last lap t6 slide (when it started I had images in my head of another 86 moment!)

No.  I am waiting patiently for my source to provide it to me.  Maybe by the end of the day here?  ~14 hours behind you.

an even bigger drenching today... I am soaked! got some cool air shots in the final tcr race... keep an eye on my photo page :)
I am finally getting the goods from my source.  He probably had to be rescued by boat from the way you described the weekend.  :)

Back to watching the Queen's procession for now with my morning coffee.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: mikeamerica84 on September 21, 2022, 12:22:02 PM
Looked a tad wet there, for sure, Sonic.  I'll look for your photos.
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: mikeamerica84 on September 22, 2022, 01:02:06 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXTvmykD/Phil.jpg)
THERE'S our favourite photographer hitting it hard at the North end of the course!
Title: Re: 2022 Season
Post by: Sonic on September 22, 2022, 12:07:22 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXTvmykD/Phil.jpg)
THERE'S our favourite photographer hitting it hard at the North end of the course!

:D LOL!!!

Just a tad moist and cold.... and hail too