To keep the spoliers tradition going 8) 8).
Mostert tops P1 with Fullwood in the wall.
Brown P2 and JC P3.
(https://media.speedcafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Bryce-Fullwood-Darwin-P1-crash-copy-e1655432795529-800x532.jpg)
https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/06/17/fullwood-finds-the-wall-in-first-supercars-practice/
Good to see a broken spoiler in the spoilers section.. ;D
And Mostert disqualified from P2 as he was underinflated... :)
The latest conspiracy doing the rounds is that the tyre pressure rule has been introduced specifically to hurt Ford teams in favour of T8.
Quote from: V8SuperRiley on June 17, 2022, 04:08:05 PM
Good to see a broken spoiler in the spoilers section.. ;D
"spoliers".....! Don't be a spoli sport!! ;)
did I hear right that JC also found the fence through the day?
anything of interest happen? just had audio in the background and it seems the bikes were having issues staying upright?
Quote from: Ospif1 on June 17, 2022, 06:24:16 PM
The latest conspiracy doing the rounds is that the tyre pressure rule has been introduced specifically to hurt Ford teams in favour of T8.
Why else would they introduce something!
Disqualification from practice is hilarious! They don't lose points or anything worth losing and they still gain a crapload of data.
I think they've used practice times to decide who goes in which qualifying session or something like that before. I guess in very rare cases practice times could be used to set the grid if qualifying gets completely cancelled for some reason.
Quote from: Bloopy on June 18, 2022, 01:09:14 AM
I think they've used practice times to decide who goes in which qualifying session or something like that before. I guess in very rare cases practice times could be used to set the grid if qualifying gets completely cancelled for some reason.
This is why he would have been disqualified. If some unforeseen event occurs and they're unable to run Qualifying they will generally use either a combination of P1 and P2 times or the most recent ended session.
I had a quick look through the Sporting Manual but couldn't find any specific mention of what they do in this situation which is a bit concerning that there is no definitive rule in place. Even for an event so rare.
Quote from: Ospif1 on June 17, 2022, 06:24:16 PM
The latest conspiracy doing the rounds is that the tyre pressure rule has been introduced specifically to hurt Ford teams in favour of T8.
I really don't think that too many Fordies follow the series that much anymore.....you might get a bite though? ;)
Hey did you hear that Ford has over 19'000 backorders for the new Ranger and Everest locally- I think that level of demand is completely unrivalled in this country hey! What a great success story for the local Ford engineering crew hey..... ;)
Quote from: Ospif1 on June 17, 2022, 06:24:16 PM
The latest conspiracy doing the rounds is that the tyre pressure rule has been introduced specifically to hurt Ford teams in favour of T8.
Good lord!!
Nice to see DJR back winning and with a solid team performance. T8 threw strategy at them but Antons avg pace was too good.
Davo needs to learn that to win you need to get your elbows out sometimes.
I really thought DJR stuffed it up, when the both pitted before Giz... But good win for DJR.
And a 6th of Frosty makes me happy (& just a little sad that I think 6th is good!!)
Good to see Davo resist SVG.....unlike Chaz....how soft was he! Better step up when he is back in a Stang in 2023....none of this bend over for SVG stuff will do next year....Cam, Will and ADP can muscle up...
Chaz to be disqualified? See where it goes....
Mostert loses today's result!https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/06/18/mostert-disqualified-from-darwin-opener/?fbclid=IwAR1xIWiy30eupXeSs1AgrWbXwtOulaNqABW0ok7fCyiovE-nQHSRYDt88eA&fs=e&s=cl
Wonder why WAU are fighting it? Seems pretty clear cut.
https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/06/18/wau-planning-to-appeal-mostert-disqualification/
They should know by now, all rule breaking needs to be done in Qualy, and discovered after the fact!
Quote from: REM on June 18, 2022, 05:29:19 PM
Good to see Davo resist SVG.....unlike Chaz....how soft was he! Better step up when he is back in a Stang in 2023....none of this bend over for SVG stuff will do next year....Cam, Will and ADP can muscle up...
Chaz to be disqualified? See where it goes....
I saw that & it just pisses me off how everyone just so easily moves out of the way. Make it hard for half a lap FFS, even a corner! Then, when anyone else is behind, they fight to the death, Giz really has the field bent over with mind games..
I actually thought that Will did a really good job yesterday and Cam is showing the way....last event he was a boss! But Mostert yesterday......weak as urine.....very disappointing! Hope he stands up a bit more next year.....hell, I really like the bloke.....
Remember how Scotty would park SVG in and frustrate him till he burned up his tyres......it was edge of your seat stuff back then....
Quote from: REM on June 19, 2022, 09:13:59 AM
I actually thought that Will did a really good job yesterday and Cam is showing the way....last event he was a boss! But Mostert yesterday......weak as urine.....very disappointing! Hope he stands up a bit more next year.....hell, I really like the bloke.....
Remember how Scotty would park SVG in and frustrate him till he burned up his tyres......it was edge of your seat stuff back then....
Yeah, Scotty stood his ground but Scotty was really something else and was in a car capable of holding him off whilst keeping his own tyres in check.
Drivers on the grid currently just accumulate for what they think their car is able to achieve, they need to use there skill and balls a little more.
Cam and Will D spilt the poles today.....well done boys!!!
You've given us another one to add to "spoliers": "Oops! Sorry boys, we've spilt the poles."
Meanwhile, for the few Ford fans still following the sport: Last round, Ford had two poles and two wins, yesterday's race saw an all-Ford DJR front row, leading to an all-Ford DJR 1-2 finish. Another couple of Ford front rows today, and Fords are running 2,3,4,5 in the Championship ahead of every Holden (but one) in the championship, and all this happening since those Holdens had a massive advantage, yet no changes to rules or specs since.
I'm sounding like a stuck record, but without SVG, it'd be Fords dominating and Holden fans deserting the sport. I mean, those Holden fans that follow and support a brand name more than following and supporting the sport.
Quote from: Zac on June 19, 2022, 11:26:24 AM
You've given us another one to add to "spoliers": "Oops! Sorry boys, we've spilt the poles."
Meanwhile, for the few Ford fans still following the sport: Last round, Ford had two poles and two wins, yesterday's race saw an all-Ford DJR front row, leading to an all-Ford DJR 1-2 finish. Another couple of Ford front rows today, and Fords are running 2,3,4,5 in the Championship ahead of every Holden (but one) in the championship, and all this happening since those Holdens had a massive advantage, yet no changes to rules or specs since.
I'm sounding like a stuck record, but without SVG, it'd be Fords dominating and Holden fans deserting the sport. I mean, those Holden fans that follow and support a brand name more than following and supporting the sport.
Once again it's the red fans bringing up parity. For someone that claims it's a non issue, you sure like talking about it. LOL!
SVG is the only decent steerer the reds have. I mean how bad are they they can't beat a knobbled Mustang. :P
Poor SVG...
Complaining about the 20psi minimum rule for tyres now.
Other teams and drivers seem to be coping so maybe he just needs to learn how to use them just like everyone else.
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Quote from: Zac on June 19, 2022, 11:26:24 AM
You've given us another one to add to "spoliers": "Oops! Sorry boys, we've spilt the poles."
Meanwhile, for the few Ford fans still following the sport: Last round, Ford had two poles and two wins, yesterday's race saw an all-Ford DJR front row, leading to an all-Ford DJR 1-2 finish. Another couple of Ford front rows today, and Fords are running 2,3,4,5 in the Championship ahead of every Holden (but one) in the championship, and all this happening since those Holdens had a massive advantage, yet no changes to rules or specs since.
I'm sounding like a stuck record, but without SVG, it'd be Fords dominating and Holden fans deserting the sport. I mean, those Holden fans that follow and support a brand name more than following and supporting the sport.
Once again it's the red fans bringing up parity. For someone that claims it's a non issue, you sure like talking about it. LOL!
SVG is the only decent steerer the reds have. I mean how bad are they they can't beat a knobbled Mustang. :P
Other than T8, what good teams do they have? And with WAU going blue, T8 aside, the cupboard is looking pretty damn bare....
But you're a Ford supporter who is still watching, and by the sounds of it, will keep watching. Keep it up, it's getting better for brand supporters. Soon, we might have Trev and Em and others watching again.
Quote from: LG on June 19, 2022, 01:54:42 PM
Poor SVG...
Complaining about the 20psi minimum rule for tyres now.
Other teams and drivers seem to be coping so maybe he just needs to learn how to use them just like everyone else.
Pretty sure SVG made it pretty clear the 20 psi had the same effect on everyone and he thought it was not a good thing for the racing at Darwin in general. The evidence is that he has adapted to the rule just as well as anyone.
Awesome race. Lesson in defensive driving by Mostert.
And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
Quote from: AlbertM on June 19, 2022, 04:54:58 PM
And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
Fortunately, this time he wrecked himself. Hopefully in future, more drivers will push back and it happens a few more times
Well I must say that was the best Supercar racing I have seen in a while.
Quote from: AlbertM on June 19, 2022, 04:54:58 PM
And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
Disagree. There was a gap there. Any Driver would have (should have) gone for that gap.
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Quote from: AlbertM on June 19, 2022, 04:54:58 PM
And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
Disagree. There was a gap there. Any Driver would have (should have) gone for that gap.
There's going for the gap and driving the other car off the track!
It was a very poor attempt at a pass by SVG.
At least the right car got damaged.
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Poor SVG...
Complaining about the 20psi minimum rule for tyres now.
Other teams and drivers seem to be coping so maybe he just needs to learn how to use them just like everyone else.
Pretty sure SVG made it pretty clear the 20 psi had the same effect on everyone and he thought it was not a good thing for the racing at Darwin in general. The evidence is that he has adapted to the rule just as well as anyone.
That end of session speed he always had was clearly not as present this time.......I wonder if it is something to do with T8 tyre pressures that makes them last....curious? I hope they keep the tyre pressure rule, the racing is much better...
A few thoughts from a punter kicking back with a beer and Foxtel on a winter weekend.
Great drive by Chaz in Race 3, but maybe he wasn't as handicapped by his tyres as most people thought. When you're leading, but even your engineer is telling you that your tyres won't last and the best he's hoping for is a 5th or 6th, it's amazing that the tyres not only didn't give in, but didn't seem to deteriorate at all after the Safety Car period. There could be something in that. Maybe Dunlop - or the teams that finished behind him have an explanation.
I haven't seen the term 'Crash Bandicoot' on here much lately, but James Courtney would be a worthy wearer of that title. For quite some time now, he's been going further back in the field, and he's usually being interviewed while his car is being worked on after a few hits or an off-track excursion. Is he just getting more unlucky the longer he races?
Garry Jacobsen gives more than he gets. Not only today with his coming together with Zak Best, but most of the time. We don't see much of what's happening in the back half of the field, but when we do, he's usually right into it.
Andre Heimgartner is becoming the quiet achiever while Nick Percat is doing the opposite. Is it the cars? The teams? Maybe Nick was a square peg in a round hole while Andre fits into BJR just fine.
I've been quietly cheering for Tim Slade and the one-car Blanchard team this year. Were they over-achieving earlier and under-achieving now? What's gone wrong?
A good weekend of racing at a circuit well-suited to Supercars. I'll have to get up there sometime.
Quote from: Zac on June 19, 2022, 07:16:50 PM
I haven't seen the term 'Crash Bandicoot' on here much lately, but James Courtney would be a worthy wearer of that title. For quite some time now, he's been going further back in the field, and he's usually being interviewed while his car is being worked on after a few hits or an off-track excursion. Is he just getting more unlucky the longer he races?
I initially thought JC kept his foot in it across the valley. He was a bit of a passenger.
I think JC just got caught up in the standard push and shove you get at Darwin in both races... if it was him locking up and flying off then yeah I'd say its him but both incidents were traffic related
Quote from: AlbertM on June 19, 2022, 04:54:58 PM
And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
The Championship just become (maybe) "back on" because Giz stuffed himself up.. He might think twice the next time his on Davison's bumper!
Also when you think Giz has gotten 35 points from quickest laps, the gap should be even smaller.. Others need to start learning this & start going after these extra 5 points & stop leaving them to Giz to collect all the time.. Giz is leading the champions because of best race pace, not best one lap pace & yet his gotten most of these points!
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Did ADP win the round?
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Did ADP win the round?
Yep, ADP from Davo and Waters.
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Did ADP win the round?
Yep, ADP from Davo and Waters.
Go you good things!! Great results-thanks Ky! 2nd best round after Winton..... :D
By my calculations, DJR now lwads the Teams Championship.
DJR 2nd and 4th total 2654 points.
888 1st and 7th total 2640 points. 7th is still very good for Feeney as a rookie.
Quote from: stevo qld on June 20, 2022, 09:05:37 PM
By my calculations, DJR now lwads the Teams Championship.
DJR 2nd and 4th total 2654 points.
888 1st and 7th total 2640 points. 7th is still very good for Feeney as a rookie.
And ADP has closed the gap to SVG in the drivers championship.
Thanks to the Davison / SVG incident.
Good strategy.
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Quote from: stevo qld on June 20, 2022, 09:05:37 PM
By my calculations, DJR now lwads the Teams Championship.
DJR 2nd and 4th total 2654 points.
888 1st and 7th total 2640 points. 7th is still very good for Feeney as a rookie.
And ADP has closed the gap to SVG in the drivers championship.
Thanks to the Davison / SVG incident.
Good strategy.
Don't know if SVG's clumsy driving counts as good strategy... !!
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
Or the other drivers don't have the mindset that they can beat him so they just roll over or perhaps having such a stupid point structure does not reward them for challenging hard enough to keep their positions.
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
How was it that SMac managed to beat him?
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
He seems to get past cleanly 90% of the time, so not sure what the problem is or why his a dick of a driver?
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
How was it that SMac managed to beat him?
Confidence in himself and in his car and desire to win. Have you not yet noticed that most the grid have no desire to win and accept that SVG is faster before the green flag even drops?
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
How was it that SMac managed to beat him?
Can't talk about the past it upsets Zac. SMac simply out drove all others. He qualified up front and stayed there. SVG will barge his way through and if any driver resists, he will run them off and ruin their race.
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
He seems to get past cleanly 90% of the time, so not sure what the problem is or why his a dick of a driver?
You said it yourself, the other driver need to wreck SVG to teach him a lesson. That would be a dick move.
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
How was it that SMac managed to beat him?
Confidence in himself and in his car and desire to win. Have you not yet noticed that most the grid have no desire to win and accept that SVG is faster before the green flag even drops?
Chaz in that middle race was woeful! "Major Softserve".....he couldn't get over quick enough.....however, Camo, ADP and Will are getting the elbows up though....hopefully Dave will too....
Davison has an unfortunate habit, lately, of cornering a bit wide. SVG is not the only one that saw a car sized gap open out and got alongside.
Unfortunately Davo closed the gap to suddenly find a car alongside. This time it was just a harder hit than with his team mate.
I am not saying that this accident was Davidson's fault, so no knicker knotting please.
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Davison has an unfortunate habit, lately, of cornering a bit wide. SVG is not the only one that saw a car sized gap open out and got alongside.
Unfortunately Davo closed the gap to suddenly find a car alongside. This time it was just a harder hit than with his team mate.
I am not saying that this accident was Davidson's fault, so no knicker knotting please.
At the point of contact though, Will had not yet started to turn back at the Apex, Shane had just driven up the inside and in to Will. There's a reason he got a penalty..
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
How was it that SMac managed to beat him?
Can't talk about the past it upsets Zac. SMac simply out drove all others. He qualified up front and stayed there. SVG will barge his way through and if any driver resists, he will run them off and ruin their race.
Then why don't others do this?
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Davison has an unfortunate habit, lately, of cornering a bit wide. SVG is not the only one that saw a car sized gap open out and got alongside.
Unfortunately Davo closed the gap to suddenly find a car alongside. This time it was just a harder hit than with his team mate.
I am not saying that this accident was Davidson's fault, so no knicker knotting please.
At the point of contact though, Will had not yet started to turn back at the Apex, Shane had just driven up the inside and in to Will. There's a reason he got a penalty..
As I indicated: If you don't leave a gap, then the following driver can't stick his car into it.
That is the start of an incident. The crash is the end of the incident.
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Davison has an unfortunate habit, lately, of cornering a bit wide. SVG is not the only one that saw a car sized gap open out and got alongside.
Unfortunately Davo closed the gap to suddenly find a car alongside. This time it was just a harder hit than with his team mate.
I am not saying that this accident was Davidson's fault, so no knicker knotting please.
At the point of contact though, Will had not yet started to turn back at the Apex, Shane had just driven up the inside and in to Will. There's a reason he got a penalty..
As I indicated: If you don't leave a gap, then the following driver can't stick his car into it.
That is the start of an incident. The crash is the end of the incident.
SMac would agree ;).
Quote from: V8SuperRiley on June 22, 2022, 08:29:05 AM
Quote from: stevo qld on June 21, 2022, 09:01:31 PM
Davison has an unfortunate habit, lately, of cornering a bit wide. SVG is not the only one that saw a car sized gap open out and got alongside.
Unfortunately Davo closed the gap to suddenly find a car alongside. This time it was just a harder hit than with his team mate.
I am not saying that this accident was Davidson's fault, so no knicker knotting please.
At the point of contact though, Will had not yet started to turn back at the Apex, Shane had just driven up the inside and in to Will. There's a reason he got a penalty..
using Perth as a guide I'm surprised that Will didn't get a penalty added to his time for Giz hitting him and running off track
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
He seems to get past cleanly 90% of the time, so not sure what the problem is or why his a dick of a driver?
You said it yourself, the other driver need to wreck SVG to teach him a lesson. That would be a dick move.
I never once said for anyone to wreck anyones race... I said they need to start standing up for their position & not to simply move aside. This is not wrecking a persons race, it's called racing & sometimes in racing, accidents happen. This is no excuse to stop racing.
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
How was it that SMac managed to beat him?
Can't talk about the past it upsets Zac. SMac simply out drove all others. He qualified up front and stayed there. SVG will barge his way through and if any driver resists, he will run them off and ruin their race.
Then why don't others do this?
The others are not SMac.
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
He seems to get past cleanly 90% of the time, so not sure what the problem is or why his a dick of a driver?
You said it yourself, the other driver need to wreck SVG to teach him a lesson. That would be a dick move.
I never once said for anyone to wreck anyones race... I said they need to start standing up for their position & not to simply move aside. This is not wrecking a persons race, it's called racing & sometimes in racing, accidents happen. This is no excuse to stop racing.
Yes you did. Standing up to SVG has resulted in ruined races and car damage. You suggested the other races do that to discourage SVG from doing it. It's in your first reply.
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
He seems to get past cleanly 90% of the time, so not sure what the problem is or why his a dick of a driver?
You said it yourself, the other driver need to wreck SVG to teach him a lesson. That would be a dick move.
I never once said for anyone to wreck anyones race... I said they need to start standing up for their position & not to simply move aside. This is not wrecking a persons race, it's called racing & sometimes in racing, accidents happen. This is no excuse to stop racing.
Yes you did. Standing up to SVG has resulted in ruined races and car damage. You suggested the other races do that to discourage SVG from doing it. It's in your first reply.
You are taking about 1 incident, did it result in trouble for Cam at Winton? My only point is we can't have drivers just moving over because they are sacred Giz will crash into them. They might has well stop racing now, because they will never win anything & Giz will win everything..
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
He seems to get past cleanly 90% of the time, so not sure what the problem is or why his a dick of a driver?
You said it yourself, the other driver need to wreck SVG to teach him a lesson. That would be a dick move.
I never once said for anyone to wreck anyones race... I said they need to start standing up for their position & not to simply move aside. This is not wrecking a persons race, it's called racing & sometimes in racing, accidents happen. This is no excuse to stop racing.
Yes you did. Standing up to SVG has resulted in ruined races and car damage. You suggested the other races do that to discourage SVG from doing it. It's in your first reply.
You are taking about 1 incident, did it result in trouble for Cam at Winton? My only point is we can't have drivers just moving over because they are sacred Giz will crash into them. They might has well stop racing now, because they will never win anything & Giz will win everything..
It happened in Tassie too. Drivers have to weight up getting punted by SVG that could end their race or settle for a result.
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
He seems to get past cleanly 90% of the time, so not sure what the problem is or why his a dick of a driver?
You said it yourself, the other driver need to wreck SVG to teach him a lesson. That would be a dick move.
I never once said for anyone to wreck anyones race... I said they need to start standing up for their position & not to simply move aside. This is not wrecking a persons race, it's called racing & sometimes in racing, accidents happen. This is no excuse to stop racing.
Yes you did. Standing up to SVG has resulted in ruined races and car damage. You suggested the other races do that to discourage SVG from doing it. It's in your first reply.
You are taking about 1 incident, did it result in trouble for Cam at Winton? My only point is we can't have drivers just moving over because they are sacred Giz will crash into them. They might has well stop racing now, because they will never win anything & Giz will win everything..
It happened in Tassie too. Drivers have to weight up getting punted by SVG that could end their race or settle for a result.
I can't believe you Fordies are still dirty on the bloke for jumping from a sinking ship.
He races hard and fair, occasionally he over cooks it like Darwin but most times he is pretty fair. Most drivers love racing him or him racing them.
Didn't he lie?
Nothing to with him jumping ship. It as simple as he's not driving for Blue, I'm not going to support him. Had to put up with you reds whining about Scotty for years.
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And people wonder why they give SVG a pass. If you don't, he will wreck you.
And if they did, Giz might actually stuff himself up more & than he might just stop doing it so aggressively..
That is some dumb logic. It stuffed Will's race as well.
What's the alternative? Allow him to just past by every time & we end up with the current situation where his untouchable!!
And not because his in the better shaped car or the better team but because everyone lets him by... His the only person on the grid that passes cars on track all the time. Everyone else pits or sits there, he passes people all the time. His got everyone mind ****ed!
Just goes to show what a dick of a driver SVG is. That he is the only driver to risk someone else to get ahead. The other drivers aren't mindf***ed. It's self preservation.
He seems to get past cleanly 90% of the time, so not sure what the problem is or why his a dick of a driver?
You said it yourself, the other driver need to wreck SVG to teach him a lesson. That would be a dick move.
I never once said for anyone to wreck anyones race... I said they need to start standing up for their position & not to simply move aside. This is not wrecking a persons race, it's called racing & sometimes in racing, accidents happen. This is no excuse to stop racing.
Yes you did. Standing up to SVG has resulted in ruined races and car damage. You suggested the other races do that to discourage SVG from doing it. It's in your first reply.
You are taking about 1 incident, did it result in trouble for Cam at Winton? My only point is we can't have drivers just moving over because they are sacred Giz will crash into them. They might has well stop racing now, because they will never win anything & Giz will win everything..
It happened in Tassie too. Drivers have to weight up getting punted by SVG that could end their race or settle for a result.
No one got punted in Tassie by Giz (unless I've forgotten something), they got overtaken & continued to race in the position right behind Giz!
Frankly we need more drivers like Giz & if this happened the racing would be 100% times better.
You've forgotten something. SVG pushed ADP wide exiting the hairpin and damaged both cars.
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You've forgotten something. SVG pushed ADP wide exiting the hairpin and damaged both cars.
I'll have to revisit that as I can't remember it. What race was it in?