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Title: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 08, 2022, 05:44:05 AM
Race weekend crew- Prac 1 10:10 this morning...Prac 2 @ 14:50....

Hope Cam can bring it in that beautiful Black Beast!!
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 08, 2022, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: REM on July 08, 2022, 05:44:05 AM
Race weekend crew- Prac 1 10:10 this morning...Prac 2 @ 14:50....

Hope Cam can bring it in that beautiful Black Beast!!

Edit: Andre looking quick across the early sessions...rare to see BJR at the top of the times...
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on July 08, 2022, 09:44:45 PM
saw that they had trouble with a manhole cover... if only they had somewhere to race that didn't have them... like maybe... a race track...
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: stevo qld on July 08, 2022, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: REM on July 08, 2022, 06:13:00 PM
[Andre looking quick across the early sessions...rare to see BJR at the top of the times...

Their major upgrade seems to be working out.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on July 09, 2022, 01:45:35 AM
Internet out at my house after a huge storm Monday evening.  Hope to get a new router shipped to me in time for Townsville.  I am currently at my public library daily checking in on this site and my e-mail.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on July 09, 2022, 08:31:25 AM
Which moron at Supercars keeps putting dual tyre compound races together? I couldn't stand dual compound races!!

Anyway, I pray for a miracle & Frosty wins!! 🤪🤪🤪
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on July 09, 2022, 08:52:38 AM
The Fed Ex truck just pulled up and delivered the goods.  I am a-HOOKED up for Townsville!   ;D

Enjoy your motorsport weekend, gentlemen!  I know I sure am!
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on July 09, 2022, 08:54:43 AM
Any V8Central members going to be there at Townsville live?
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Iggle Piggle on July 09, 2022, 10:04:59 AM
Quote from: Sonic on July 08, 2022, 09:44:45 PM
saw that they had trouble with a manhole cover... if only they had somewhere to race that didn't have them... like maybe... a race track...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUwn8NIZBFg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUwn8NIZBFg)   :-\
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on July 09, 2022, 02:59:57 PM
Not to be the typical "attack on Skaife loving T8" comment but... He said SVG got a poor start because he was on the dirty side of the road and Davo got a better start for being in the clean side.

Friendly reminder that SVG started on pole exactly on the racing line. Which is the clean side of the road.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 09, 2022, 05:03:16 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on July 09, 2022, 02:59:57 PM
Not to be the typical "attack on Skaife loving T8" comment but... He said SVG got a poor start because he was on the dirty side of the road and Davo got a better start for being in the clean side.

Friendly reminder that SVG started on pole exactly on the racing line. Which is the clean side of the road.

Whole thing was a sleepy, predictable, borefest really.....easy to switch off....
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on July 09, 2022, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: REM on July 09, 2022, 05:03:16 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on July 09, 2022, 02:59:57 PM
Not to be the typical "attack on Skaife loving T8" comment but... He said SVG got a poor start because he was on the dirty side of the road and Davo got a better start for being in the clean side.

Friendly reminder that SVG started on pole exactly on the racing line. Which is the clean side of the road.

Whole thing was a sleepy, predictable, borefest really.....easy to switch off....
First time I've ever turned it off before the race finished. Once he got in front, I left and went to the gym. At least that's better for my mental health...
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 09, 2022, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on July 09, 2022, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: REM on July 09, 2022, 05:03:16 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on July 09, 2022, 02:59:57 PM
Not to be the typical "attack on Skaife loving T8" comment but... He said SVG got a poor start because he was on the dirty side of the road and Davo got a better start for being in the clean side.

Friendly reminder that SVG started on pole exactly on the racing line. Which is the clean side of the road.

Whole thing was a sleepy, predictable, borefest really.....easy to switch off....
First time I've ever turned it off before the race finished. Once he got in front, I left and went to the gym. At least that's better for my mental health...

I hear you brother...did exactly the same....all so predictable.....remember when it was exciting a few years ago.....
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on July 09, 2022, 05:40:24 PM
I enjoyed that one, fun race.  Good to see some new faces in the mix closer to the front as well.  Looking forward to tomorrow.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 09, 2022, 06:12:51 PM
Quote from: Ospif1 on July 09, 2022, 05:40:24 PM
I enjoyed that one, fun race.  Good to see some new faces in the mix closer to the front as well.  Looking forward to tomorrow.
Good that someone is enjoying it.....😉, but jeez, the forum is dead for a race weekend hey....
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Zac on July 09, 2022, 07:10:33 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on July 09, 2022, 02:59:57 PM
Friendly reminder that SVG started on pole exactly on the racing line. Which is the clean side of the road.
Err... no. Pole is exactly off the racing line. The dirty side.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on July 09, 2022, 07:34:24 PM
Quote from: Zac on July 09, 2022, 07:10:33 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on July 09, 2022, 02:59:57 PM
Friendly reminder that SVG started on pole exactly on the racing line. Which is the clean side of the road.
Err... no. Pole is exactly off the racing line. The dirty side.
It's on the edge.  Davison was definitely way off the racing line while SVG was on the edge of it as seen here.

https://imgur.com/a/NObDkIf
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Zac on July 09, 2022, 07:56:31 PM
Those pics show that pole is off the racing line, but so is 2nd, so it doesn't make a big difference at Townsville.
I agree with you that it was a fun race - well, certainly not boring. There was plenty going on throughout the field throughout the race, but I'm having a think about what would make that race less boring and predictable for those who thought that it was. Maybe if Will Davison started on pole, but dropped behind SVG by almost 20 seconds after his second stop after taking on a big load of fuel,  but came blazing back to nail Shane with about two laps to go...  There's probably some who would regard that as a sleepy, predictable borefest - but it's hypothetical at best. (No offence, REM. It's still my shout at SMP :-*.)
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on July 09, 2022, 08:20:40 PM
ZB has speed to burn. SVG had lost a chunk of his points buffer since Winton, so he's back to using it. As Zac said, plenty of action through the rest of field. Tickford really should have thrown a big bag of cash at Heimgartner last year. He's racey in a BJR puss bucket.

Given the rubber laid down during practice. I doubt there is much of a dirty side to start from.

Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on July 09, 2022, 08:29:25 PM
Quote from: Iggle Piggle on July 09, 2022, 10:04:59 AM
Quote from: Sonic on July 08, 2022, 09:44:45 PM
saw that they had trouble with a manhole cover... if only they had somewhere to race that didn't have them... like maybe... a race track...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUwn8NIZBFg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUwn8NIZBFg)   :-\

I remember that one  :'(
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Sonic on July 09, 2022, 08:30:44 PM
Quote from: REM on July 09, 2022, 06:12:51 PM
Quote from: Ospif1 on July 09, 2022, 05:40:24 PM
I enjoyed that one, fun race.  Good to see some new faces in the mix closer to the front as well.  Looking forward to tomorrow.
Good that someone is enjoying it.....😉, but jeez, the forum is dead for a race weekend hey....

that's coz we have truck racing at Winton!!  ;D
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 09, 2022, 08:38:49 PM
Quote from: Sonic on July 09, 2022, 08:30:44 PM
Quote from: REM on July 09, 2022, 06:12:51 PM
Quote from: Ospif1 on July 09, 2022, 05:40:24 PM
I enjoyed that one, fun race.  Good to see some new faces in the mix closer to the front as well.  Looking forward to tomorrow.
Good that someone is enjoying it.....😉, but jeez, the forum is dead for a race weekend hey....

that's coz we have truck racing at Winton!!  ;D
lol! Truck racing would be heaps more exciting and less predictable for sure!!
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 09, 2022, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: Zac on July 09, 2022, 07:56:31 PM
Those pics show that pole is off the racing line, but so is 2nd, so it doesn't make a big difference at Townsville.
I agree with you that it was a fun race - well, certainly not boring. There was plenty going on throughout the field throughout the race, but I'm having a think about what would make that race less boring and predictable for those who thought that it was. Maybe if Will Davison started on pole, but dropped behind SVG by almost 20 seconds after his second stop after taking on a big load of fuel,  but came blazing back to nail Shane with about two laps to go...  There's probably some who would regard that as a sleepy, predictable borefest - but it's hypothetical at best. (No offence, REM. It's still my shout at SMP :-*.)
Zaccy- if WD did that, there would be a subsequent parity adjustment for sure...😉
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on July 09, 2022, 08:46:29 PM
Again, SVG making excuses for his speed. Given he is the only driver to even mention the "P" word this year. Is it playing on his mind?
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on July 10, 2022, 12:08:32 PM
Silly mistake from Davison to get penalised for Qualy.  1 Place is pretty light though so he's kinda gotten away with it on this occasion.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: v8man11 on July 10, 2022, 01:13:44 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on July 09, 2022, 08:20:40 PM
ZB has speed to burn. SVG had lost a chunk of his points buffer since Winton, so he's back to using it. As Zac said, plenty of action through the rest of field. Tickford really should have thrown a big bag of cash at Heimgartner last year. He's racey in a BJR puss bucket.

Given the rubber laid down during practice. I doubt there is much of a dirty side to start from.

The ZB has speed to burn but the fastest car in the last part of the race when they were on the supersoft was Cam Waters and I believe he drives a Mustang,  he says hinmself he had a bad first sector of the race
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on July 10, 2022, 02:56:27 PM
Davo copped it there. He needed to move over once he had the overlap on Waters.

Waters with a bump and pass SVG style.
Scott Pye took an inch too many.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on July 10, 2022, 04:43:22 PM
That was a great battle to the end. Will be a deserved penalty for him.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: TheArrow on July 10, 2022, 04:45:08 PM
Whatever little sportsmanship respect I had for Shane is gone.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Ospif1 on July 10, 2022, 04:48:25 PM
Impressive tyre conservation and speed at the end for Anton towards the end as well, was a proper equal battle in that regard.
Title: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on July 10, 2022, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on July 10, 2022, 04:45:08 PM
Whatever little sportsmanship respect I had for Shane is gone.

Good to see you stayed for the race. Anton had the better softs today.

Agree re SVG, wasn't needed. I'd say silly games since that rainy day at Eastern Creek would still be in his mind.
Happy the results weren't affected.

Just to add, Davo gets the drive of the day!
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on July 10, 2022, 05:26:52 PM
Great race! I'm glad to see Anton having a go at the end, I wish Pye had taken Giz with him at the start.

And Giz is such a dirty sportsmen..

Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 10, 2022, 05:32:43 PM
Great to see ADP have a go and get in SVG's head! Talk about a glass jaw, SVG can dish it out, but he sure can't handle it back....if only Cam was a little closer to them! Keep it up boys....
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: kennymiesta on July 10, 2022, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on July 10, 2022, 05:26:52 PM
Great race! I'm glad to see Anton having a go at the end, I wish Pye had taken Giz with him at the start.

And Giz is such a dirty sportsmen..

Even when the bloke has done nothing wrong, people still try and bash him. In the heat of the moment, sometimes the last person you want to associate with is the one who just turned you around. Both Shane and Anton mentioned they discussed it off camera and everything was all good.
Imagine had it been a role reversal. Everyone would be labeling Anton as a hero for snobbing Shane. Don't deny it, you know it would be true.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 10, 2022, 06:16:52 PM
Quote from: kennymiesta on July 10, 2022, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on July 10, 2022, 05:26:52 PM
Great race! I'm glad to see Anton having a go at the end, I wish Pye had taken Giz with him at the start.

And Giz is such a dirty sportsmen..

Even when the bloke has done nothing wrong, people still try and bash him. In the heat of the moment, sometimes the last person you want to associate with is the one who just turned you around. Both Shane and Anton mentioned they discussed it off camera and everything was all good.
Imagine had it been a role reversal. Everyone would be labeling Anton as a hero for snobbing Shane. Don't deny it, you know it would be true.
nah, if Anton acted like an entitled, petulant git, we'd call him on it...
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: djr18fan on July 10, 2022, 06:41:16 PM
SVG rubs other cars while passing them. Is the villain.


Anton makes a ridiculous move turning SVG around. SVG is the villain.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on July 10, 2022, 07:26:54 PM
Quote from: djr18fan on July 10, 2022, 06:41:16 PM
SVG rubs other cars while passing them. Is the villain.


Anton makes a ridiculous move turning SVG around. SVG is the villain.

Not sure anyone is arguing the move. It was miles off.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on July 11, 2022, 10:11:57 AM
Quote from: kennymiesta on July 10, 2022, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on July 10, 2022, 05:26:52 PM
Great race! I'm glad to see Anton having a go at the end, I wish Pye had taken Giz with him at the start.

And Giz is such a dirty sportsmen..

Even when the bloke has done nothing wrong, people still try and bash him. In the heat of the moment, sometimes the last person you want to associate with is the one who just turned you around. Both Shane and Anton mentioned they discussed it off camera and everything was all good.
Imagine had it been a role reversal. Everyone would be labeling Anton as a hero for snobbing Shane. Don't deny it, you know it would be true.
Define "nothing wrong".. Yes the move by Anton didn't work & clearly Anton was in the wrong, but Giz dangerously pulling up behind Anton on the finish line instead on just overtaking, so Anton might get a bigger penalty is not smart or clever (like the moron commentators tried to tell us), it's dirty & bad sportsmanship. Then to snub Anton when his trying to say sorry, is scum!!

Hey, that's just me.. You are entitled to your own opinion.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: fordman on July 11, 2022, 10:59:31 AM
yep the move there but it missed and ADP did the right thing by attempting the redress, SVG tried the cunning move of not redressing in the hope of a bigger penalty, proves he is a quick thinking driver. ADP should have just stopped altogether forcing SVG to give up first is Waters overtook both?? one more lap would have been interesting.

good to see though the stewards in effect did what ADP was trying to do and swop positions.

Both days were ok I thought the fuel/tyre rule I thought did it job, saw a car on a different strategy run down the leader and gave us a good race for the last 5/10 laps on both days. SVG ran one down and held one off. Plus good battles for 3-4 as well.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: stevo qld on July 11, 2022, 12:05:25 PM
I think there is a misconception that redressing can mitigate the crime. (The talking heads do confuse the viewers).

Time and time again we have seen drivers penalised even when they have redressed.

It seems to me that a bump and pass is forgiven if there is redressal.

But, it seems that where a driver crashes and turns another driver, a penalty is applied regardless.

In this case, I believe that car 11 would have received a time penalty regardless.

Tickford were probably unhappy that a 15 second penalty was not applied, or even longer. ;D
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: skaifeman on July 11, 2022, 12:08:15 PM
Quote from: stevo qld on July 11, 2022, 12:05:25 PM
I think there is a misconception that redressing can mitigate the crime. (The talking heads do confuse the viewers).

Time and time again we have seen drivers penalised even when they have redressed.

It seems to me that a bump and pass is forgiven if there is redressal.

But, it seems that where a driver crashes and turns another driver, a penalty is applied regardless.

In this case, I believe that car 11 would have received a time penalty regardless.

Tickford were probably unhappy that a 15 second penalty was not applied, or even longer. ;D

I think you're right. The redress rule got canned after 2016 Bathurst, no?
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on July 11, 2022, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: stevo qld on July 11, 2022, 12:05:25 PM
I think there is a misconception that redressing can mitigate the crime. (The talking heads do confuse the viewers).

Time and time again we have seen drivers penalised even when they have redressed.

It seems to me that a bump and pass is forgiven if there is redressal.

But, it seems that where a driver crashes and turns another driver, a penalty is applied regardless.

In this case, I believe that car 11 would have received a time penalty regardless.

Tickford were probably unhappy that a 15 second penalty was not applied, or even longer. ;D
Give me one example when someone redressed & still got a penalised, just one example will do!!
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Zac on July 11, 2022, 06:45:57 PM
Quote from: REM on July 09, 2022, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: Zac on July 09, 2022, 07:56:31 PM
Those pics show that pole is off the racing line, but so is 2nd, so it doesn't make a big difference at Townsville.
I agree with you that it was a fun race - well, certainly not boring. There was plenty going on throughout the field throughout the race, but I'm having a think about what would make that race less boring and predictable for those who thought that it was. Maybe if Will Davison started on pole, but dropped behind SVG by almost 20 seconds after his second stop after taking on a big load of fuel,  but came blazing back to nail Shane with about two laps to go...  There's probably some who would regard that as a sleepy, predictable borefest - but it's hypothetical at best. (No offence, REM. It's still my shout at SMP :-*.)
Zaccy- if WD did that, there would be a subsequent parity adjustment for sure...😉
After Will's drive yesterday from 25th (and last) to 7th, there should be a parity adjustment coming up. Not "for sure", but there should be  :). The race speed from a damaged car was pretty impressive, both DJR cars come to think of it - and two of the Tickford cars as well.

Another good race, with neither race this weekend being a borefest - nor predictable, just the same winner. My humble opinion on that last corner was best summed up by Shane to Anton: "Congratulations for having a go - but what were you thinking?" So much for the snob/snub, whatever people want to call it. Within a minute of the snob/snub, SVG and ADP had a chat and both agreed it was all good, and let's have more of it. The attempted redress shows problems with redressing, although unlike JW at Bathurst, this one certainly wasn't dangerous (Joe). Probably not SVG's best idea to refuse the redress, but to think of it and do it in the few seconds he had after being punted at the last corner of 250ks of racing shows how he's always thinking while racing.

Bad sportsmanship award goes to Lee Holdsworth. What was he thinking? Out of character, from the little I know of him. Another good weekend of racing. Sometimes it seems more like WWE than motorsport as I know it, but I enjoyed it all the same. Well, not Tony Quinn's crash and injuries. Get well quick, Tony.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Troy01505 on July 11, 2022, 09:08:58 PM
Antons pass was on, should've got the win!
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: stevo qld on July 11, 2022, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on July 11, 2022, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: stevo qld on July 11, 2022, 12:05:25 PM
I think there is a misconception that redressing can mitigate the crime. (The talking heads do confuse the viewers).

Time and time again we have seen drivers penalised even when they have redressed.

It seems to me that a bump and pass is forgiven if there is redressal.

But, it seems that where a driver crashes and turns another driver, a penalty is applied regardless.

In this case, I believe that car 11 would have received a time penalty regardless.

Tickford were probably unhappy that a 15 second penalty was not applied, or even longer. ;D
Give me one example when someone redressed & still got a penalised, just one example will do!!

Joe, my post was clearly my opinion and I stand by it.

I totally reject your right to make demands of another member.

If you disagree, and it appears that you do, you could do your own research and support any contrary opinions that you may hold, if you require statistical proof.

I still believe that the redress scenario is perpetuated by historical drivers.

If I was to provide any historical statistics, then it would clearly be off topic in this thread.

However, I can categorically state that I am sure that any driver running second who punted the leader into a spin at Townsville 2022 received a time penalty imposed by officials who have read the current rule book and regulations.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Tommo on July 12, 2022, 02:17:58 AM
Just watched the highlights on Youtube. I thought that the SVG action in not taking the redress was very poor. Anton stuffed up, but he went to correct it. Just take the win instead of playing games.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: AlbertM on July 12, 2022, 04:54:18 AM
Anton should have kept the boot in and got to the line, with a 5 second penalty he would have got the W. LOL!

IMO the racing was great, probably the best so far this year. Finally, we have a rivalry between two drivers in two different camps. And it is rattling 888. You only pull tricks when you're desperate. I hope DJR and Anton can keep the pressure on. SVG has a habit of folding when he can't win.

Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: madbugger on July 12, 2022, 06:28:40 AM
Quote from: AlbertM on July 12, 2022, 04:54:18 AM
Anton should have kept the boot in and got to the line, with a 5 second penalty he would have got the W. LOL!

IMO the racing was great, probably the best so far this year. Finally, we have a rivalry between two drivers in two different camps. And it is rattling 888. You only pull tricks when you're desperate. I hope DJR and Anton can keep the pressure on. SVG has a habit of folding when he can't win.

Penalty would have been enough to ensure SVG was the winner, and possibly big enough to drop ADP to 3rd or 4th. By attempting  to redress, and it's refusal, I think the penalty was just enough to ensure the status quo was maintained pre spin.

There had to be a penalty, it would have set a fairly shocking precedent if there wasn't, and I think the correct penalty was given.

It was still a 💩💩💩💩 move by SVG to refuse it though.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 12, 2022, 08:05:19 AM
Quote from: Tommo on July 12, 2022, 02:17:58 AM
Just watched the highlights on Youtube. I thought that the SVG action in not taking the redress was very poor. Anton stuffed up, but he went to correct it. Just take the win instead of playing games.

When he was saying "The car is terrible on Saturday"....I was thinking, yeah, sure it is SVG! For a proper Kiwi comparison, what Richard Lowe was to rugby, Shane is to supercars! :D ;)
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on July 12, 2022, 08:47:16 AM
I like how the network has gone "back" to Red v. Blue when showing the order of the cars on the left hand side of the screen.

Good round for SVG.  He was in a class of his own.  Too bad for Will to be put behind the eight ball so early in Race 2.  And Pye for that matter - knocked completely off of the pool table.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 12, 2022, 05:52:17 PM
Quote from: Tommo on July 12, 2022, 02:17:58 AM
Just watched the highlights on Youtube. I thought that the SVG action in not taking the redress was very poor. Anton stuffed up, but he went to correct it. Just take the win instead of playing games.

Weclome Tommo- are you the old Tommo from the former site?
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Joe5619 on July 12, 2022, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: Zac on July 11, 2022, 06:45:57 PM
Quote from: REM on July 09, 2022, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: Zac on July 09, 2022, 07:56:31 PM
Those pics show that pole is off the racing line, but so is 2nd, so it doesn't make a big difference at Townsville.
I agree with you that it was a fun race - well, certainly not boring. There was plenty going on throughout the field throughout the race, but I'm having a think about what would make that race less boring and predictable for those who thought that it was. Maybe if Will Davison started on pole, but dropped behind SVG by almost 20 seconds after his second stop after taking on a big load of fuel,  but came blazing back to nail Shane with about two laps to go...  There's probably some who would regard that as a sleepy, predictable borefest - but it's hypothetical at best. (No offence, REM. It's still my shout at SMP :-*.)
Zaccy- if WD did that, there would be a subsequent parity adjustment for sure...😉
After Will's drive yesterday from 25th (and last) to 7th, there should be a parity adjustment coming up. Not "for sure", but there should be  :). The race speed from a damaged car was pretty impressive, both DJR cars come to think of it - and two of the Tickford cars as well.

Another good race, with neither race this weekend being a borefest - nor predictable, just the same winner. My humble opinion on that last corner was best summed up by Shane to Anton: "Congratulations for having a go - but what were you thinking?" So much for the snob/snub, whatever people want to call it. Within a minute of the snob/snub, SVG and ADP had a chat and both agreed it was all good, and let's have more of it. The attempted redress shows problems with redressing, although unlike JW at Bathurst, this one certainly wasn't dangerous (Joe). Probably not SVG's best idea to refuse the redress, but to think of it and do it in the few seconds he had after being punted at the last corner of 250ks of racing shows how he's always thinking while racing.

Bad sportsmanship award goes to Lee Holdsworth. What was he thinking? Out of character, from the little I know of him. Another good weekend of racing. Sometimes it seems more like WWE than motorsport as I know it, but I enjoyed it all the same. Well, not Tony Quinn's crash and injuries. Get well quick, Tony.
It was dangerous!! Do I need to remind you of Ingall & Perkins many decades ago at the finish line of QLD raceway in the castrol colours? It was bad enough that Anton slowed down, but Giz's made it 100 times more dangerous by playing games!

And yes Lee's form was pretty piss poor. Sounds like his out the door again, so probably pissed off. Poor guy, keeps getting shafted.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Zac on July 12, 2022, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: REM on July 12, 2022, 08:05:19 AMFor a proper Kiwi comparison, what Richard Lowe was to rugby, Shane is to supercars! :D ;)
Richard Loe? Do you mean Richie McCaw?
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: REM on July 13, 2022, 11:51:15 AM
Quote from: Zac on July 12, 2022, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: REM on July 12, 2022, 08:05:19 AMFor a proper Kiwi comparison, what Richard Lowe was to rugby, Shane is to supercars! :D ;)
Richard Loe? Do you mean Richie McCaw?

McCaw!! God-forbid!!!No, I really mean Richard Lowe/Loe....  ;-)

Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: Tommo on July 15, 2022, 02:16:04 PM
Quote from: REM on July 12, 2022, 05:52:17 PM
Quote from: Tommo on July 12, 2022, 02:17:58 AM
Just watched the highlights on Youtube. I thought that the SVG action in not taking the redress was very poor. Anton stuffed up, but he went to correct it. Just take the win instead of playing games.

Weclome Tommo- are you the old Tommo from the former site?
Yep :)
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: mikeamerica84 on July 16, 2022, 01:20:43 AM
Quote from: Tommo on July 15, 2022, 02:16:04 PM
Quote from: REM on July 12, 2022, 05:52:17 PM
Quote from: Tommo on July 12, 2022, 02:17:58 AM
Just watched the highlights on Youtube. I thought that the SVG action in not taking the redress was very poor. Anton stuffed up, but he went to correct it. Just take the win instead of playing games.

Weclome Tommo- are you the old Tommo from the former site?
Yep :)
Not to be confused with "tommo11", right?  He was on the former site.
Title: Re: Townies (Spoliers)
Post by: kennymiesta on July 16, 2022, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on July 11, 2022, 10:11:57 AM
Quote from: kennymiesta on July 10, 2022, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on July 10, 2022, 05:26:52 PM
Great race! I'm glad to see Anton having a go at the end, I wish Pye had taken Giz with him at the start.

And Giz is such a dirty sportsmen..

Even when the bloke has done nothing wrong, people still try and bash him. In the heat of the moment, sometimes the last person you want to associate with is the one who just turned you around. Both Shane and Anton mentioned they discussed it off camera and everything was all good.
Imagine had it been a role reversal. Everyone would be labeling Anton as a hero for snobbing Shane. Don't deny it, you know it would be true.
Define "nothing wrong".. Yes the move by Anton didn't work & clearly Anton was in the wrong, but Giz dangerously pulling up behind Anton on the finish line instead on just overtaking, so Anton might get a bigger penalty is not smart or clever (like the moron commentators tried to tell us), it's dirty & bad sportsmanship. Then to snub Anton when his trying to say sorry, is scum!!

Hey, that's just me.. You are entitled to your own opinion.

I fail to see how pulling in behind him is classed as "dangerous" & "dirty", but I guess you only have to look at recent years of Scotty Mac to see that if you are dominating, people just find any reason to put you down. I completely agree that everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the matter, but the dangerous word is one I would really like a more thorough explanation on.....

Quote from: Joe5619 on July 12, 2022, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: Zac on July 11, 2022, 06:45:57 PM
Quote from: REM on July 09, 2022, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: Zac on July 09, 2022, 07:56:31 PM
Those pics show that pole is off the racing line, but so is 2nd, so it doesn't make a big difference at Townsville.
I agree with you that it was a fun race - well, certainly not boring. There was plenty going on throughout the field throughout the race, but I'm having a think about what would make that race less boring and predictable for those who thought that it was. Maybe if Will Davison started on pole, but dropped behind SVG by almost 20 seconds after his second stop after taking on a big load of fuel,  but came blazing back to nail Shane with about two laps to go...  There's probably some who would regard that as a sleepy, predictable borefest - but it's hypothetical at best. (No offence, REM. It's still my shout at SMP :-*.)
Zaccy- if WD did that, there would be a subsequent parity adjustment for sure...😉
After Will's drive yesterday from 25th (and last) to 7th, there should be a parity adjustment coming up. Not "for sure", but there should be  :). The race speed from a damaged car was pretty impressive, both DJR cars come to think of it - and two of the Tickford cars as well.

Another good race, with neither race this weekend being a borefest - nor predictable, just the same winner. My humble opinion on that last corner was best summed up by Shane to Anton: "Congratulations for having a go - but what were you thinking?" So much for the snob/snub, whatever people want to call it. Within a minute of the snob/snub, SVG and ADP had a chat and both agreed it was all good, and let's have more of it. The attempted redress shows problems with redressing, although unlike JW at Bathurst, this one certainly wasn't dangerous (Joe). Probably not SVG's best idea to refuse the redress, but to think of it and do it in the few seconds he had after being punted at the last corner of 250ks of racing shows how he's always thinking while racing.

Bad sportsmanship award goes to Lee Holdsworth. What was he thinking? Out of character, from the little I know of him. Another good weekend of racing. Sometimes it seems more like WWE than motorsport as I know it, but I enjoyed it all the same. Well, not Tony Quinn's crash and injuries. Get well quick, Tony.
It was dangerous!! Do I need to remind you of Ingall & Perkins many decades ago at the finish line of QLD raceway in the castrol colours? It was bad enough that Anton slowed down, but Giz's made it 100 times more dangerous by playing games!

And yes Lee's form was pretty piss poor. Sounds like his out the door again, so probably pissed off. Poor guy, keeps getting shafted.

If this is the example you are stating for "dangerous", you need to realise that these were two completely different scenario's. Ingall was held up by a slower car and deliberately turned into his rear quarter to put him in the wall. At no point was SVG aiming to drill Anton into a fence. You are comparing Apples to an Orange. They are not comparable.

Quote from: mikeamerica84 on July 12, 2022, 08:47:16 AM
I like how the network has gone "back" to Red v. Blue when showing the order of the cars on the left hand side of the screen.

Good round for SVG.  He was in a class of his own.  Too bad for Will to be put behind the eight ball so early in Race 2.  And Pye for that matter - knocked completely off of the pool table.

Agree with you Mike. The whole last corner thing has shadowed how good a drive Will Davison had. He was fast, and to climb from last to where he finished in a bruised car was bloody impressive. Not a Davo fan by any stretch, but credit where it is due. I think he would have smoked the field had it not been for Pye trying to be a bit over eager to pass him.