Hopefully this discussion will be much friendlier
Quote from: Trevor on August 10, 2022, 10:12:55 AM
Hopefully this discussion will be much friendlier
Surely that deserves a smite..
I'm expecting SVG to win down there again.
Quote from: V8SuperRiley on August 10, 2022, 10:45:02 AM
I'm expecting SVG to win down there again.
I hope not
and ask and you shall receive ;D ;D ;D
Will be interesting... Red Hill is currently not available for use due to weather conditions... and it is scheduled to rain every day over the next week.
So if that pans out there will be no Park and View available... and there will be no parking for the general public either as both paddocks will likely also be swamps.
Quote from: V8SuperRiley on August 10, 2022, 10:45:02 AM
Quote from: Trevor on August 10, 2022, 10:12:55 AM
Hopefully this discussion will be much friendlier
Surely that deserves a smite..
I'm expecting SVG to win down there again.
ZB's have been untouchable there (even in 2019).....much like Bathurst, and it's only got more lopsided since....not really expecting much....
Is this the last Sandown ? I expected the dozers to start making housing blocks by now.
I'll be at t9 the majority of the 3 days if anyone wants to catch up :) bring your wet weather gear!
I have worked at Sandown with RaceSafe for the V8's, I have raced Sandown in the XE and I have spectated the V8's at Sandown, I think I will watch from home thanks Phil, too farken chilly there for me this time of year
Quote from: Sonic on August 18, 2022, 04:49:50 PM
I'll be at t9 the majority of the 3 days if anyone wants to catch up :) bring your wet weather gear!
The violent end of the circuit. Looking forward to your pics, Sonic.
Quote from: Trevor on August 18, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
I have worked at Sandown with RaceSafe for the V8's, I have raced Sandown in the XE and I have spectated the V8's at Sandown, I think I will watch from home thanks Phil, too farken chilly there for me this time of year
Get me some pics of some good looking women saying, "Hi Mike!"
It will make me feel like I am there and not a half a world away, mate.
As usual, Channel 7 expects the races to be boring with one hour highlights broadcast the next day. 1 Hour equals about 30 minutes of racing, but dear Channel 7, please try to include the start and lap one.
Rumour has it that the start was very eventful last time, but one would not know it from the purported highlights which started on lap 2.
What is the qually format for Saturday? I see there is no Top 10 Shootout listed.
Sunday's looks status quo.
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on August 18, 2022, 06:50:26 PMGet me some pics of some good looking women saying, "Hi Mike!"
It will make me feel like I am there and not a half a world away, mate.
Phil will get you those, the grid girls love him - the gentle giant ;D
Dare I dream Frosty might have a half decent round!!
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on August 19, 2022, 04:43:27 AM
What is the qually format for Saturday? I see there is no Top 10 Shootout listed.
Sunday's looks status quo.
Saturday 3 stage qually last stage top ten shoot out sunday just 2 x 10 min sprint quallys
Quote from: Joe5619 on August 19, 2022, 01:54:31 PM
Dare I dream Frosty might have a half decent round!!
He needs it. His job is in jeopardy.
Slade still hasn't announced where he is going in 2023. People seem to assume PremiAir, but those two seats are not the only ones up for grabs.
Quote from: stevo qld on August 19, 2022, 05:13:38 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on August 19, 2022, 01:54:31 PM
Dare I dream Frosty might have a half decent round!!
He needs it. His job is in jeopardy.
Slade still hasn't announced where he is going in 2023. People seem to assume PremiAir, but those two seats are not the only ones up for grabs.
His seat is just fine!
Quote from: Trevor on August 19, 2022, 07:09:00 AM
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on August 18, 2022, 06:50:26 PMGet me some pics of some good looking women saying, "Hi Mike!"
It will make me feel like I am there and not a half a world away, mate.
Phil will get you those, the grid girls love him - the gentle giant ;D
:D Love ya Trev... but the dreads do creep them a bit these days LOL
Sorry Mike, but this is near Dandenong... (Frankston without a beach)... flannies etc... unlikely I'll get any good looking women where I'll be at t9 BUT if any merch gals do wander past I'll grab one of them (not physically of course) and get a video howdy for you
Thanks, Sonic! Just let them know it is for the other side of the world and they are helping mankind in the Western Hemisphere. :)
Skaife doing all he can to try to get Davison to keep his pole position, showing his bias as usual and using his position to influence race control because he knows they are listening to him.
If Skaife does not want him penalised I don't get why he didn't just not replay that bit of footage. Makes no sense.
Quote from: Iggle Piggle on August 20, 2022, 01:54:15 PM
Skaife doing all he can to try to get Davison to keep his pole position, showing his bias as usual and using his position to influence race control because he knows they are listening to him.
If Skaife does not want him penalised I don't get why he didn't just not replay that bit of footage. Makes no sense.
I am confused.
Skaife is usually lambasted for his bias toward Holden drivers.
Now he is in trouble for bias toward a Ford driver. ::)
Quote from: stevo qld on August 20, 2022, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: Iggle Piggle on August 20, 2022, 01:54:15 PM
Skaife doing all he can to try to get Davison to keep his pole position, showing his bias as usual and using his position to influence race control because he knows they are listening to him.
If Skaife does not want him penalised I don't get why he didn't just not replay that bit of footage. Makes no sense.
I am confused.
Skaife is usually lambasted for his bias toward Holden drivers.
Now he is in trouble for bias toward a Ford driver. ::)
Wait - you're right.
So that must mean that Skaife just calls it like he sees it, and some people just seize on his opinions that do not favour a Ford driver (even if his opinion is valid), and seize on his opinions that favour a Holden driver (again, even when valid); but they then ignore or do not "hear" his opinions that favour a Ford driver, or don't favour a Holden driver, as those comments do not fit their narrative.
Hmmm, that could very well be possible :-\
Quote from: stevo qld on August 20, 2022, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: Iggle Piggle on August 20, 2022, 01:54:15 PM
Skaife doing all he can to try to get Davison to keep his pole position, showing his bias as usual and using his position to influence race control because he knows they are listening to him.
If Skaife does not want him penalised I don't get why he didn't just not replay that bit of footage. Makes no sense.
I am confused.
Skaife is usually lambasted for his bias toward Holden drivers.
Now he is in trouble for bias toward a Ford driver. ::)
the wanker is having a dig at me, the small minded ****
You're so vain,
You probably thought that post was about you
Farken 8.4 seconds, good onya Will
Quote from: Trevor on August 20, 2022, 05:40:37 PM
Farken 8.4 seconds, good onya Will
he whooped 'em today. a job well done!
Quote from: Sonic on August 20, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Trevor on August 20, 2022, 05:40:37 PM
Farken 8.4 seconds, good onya Will
he whooped 'em today. a job well done!
Mustangs have the edge over a race distance.
Quote from: djr18fan on August 20, 2022, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: Sonic on August 20, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Trevor on August 20, 2022, 05:40:37 PM
Farken 8.4 seconds, good onya Will
he whooped 'em today. a job well done!
Mustangs have the edge over a race distance.
Can we cut this bull**** and accept that parity is on point and it down to the team and driver on the day? Thanks.
Will WAU ever build momentum? I wonder if Chaz regrets his move.....yes there is a Bathurst win....but look at the 6 and the 17....Chaz only has a certain amount of years left!
Sandown has never been an areo track, recall back in 95 when the smashed the EF's cutting 200mm out of the front, they went ok at Sandown but were no where in the race at Bathurst....
What was interesting is that Sandown is all about power down and brakes....and T8 have had the wood on the rest by some margin all season and are normally untouchable at Sandown because of this....a head scratcher......see what today brings....
Just so happy for Will Davison, to get the win for DJR, & finish in front of Giz, hope they can carry that pace to Bathurst.
Quote from: djr18fan on August 20, 2022, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: Sonic on August 20, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Trevor on August 20, 2022, 05:40:37 PM
Farken 8.4 seconds, good onya Will
he whooped 'em today. a job well done!
Mustangs have the edge over a race distance.
Hmmmm.....not a Stang even on the podium! Glad I went surfin.....
Quote from: REM on August 21, 2022, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: djr18fan on August 20, 2022, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: Sonic on August 20, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Trevor on August 20, 2022, 05:40:37 PM
Farken 8.4 seconds, good onya Will
he whooped 'em today. a job well done!
Mustangs have the edge over a race distance.
Hmmmm.....not a Stang even on the podium! Glad I went surfin.....
Did they engineer the speed out of their cars again?
I record it so I have the opportunity to fast forward and watch it when I am bored ****less.
Quote from: Troy01505 on August 21, 2022, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: REM on August 21, 2022, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: djr18fan on August 20, 2022, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: Sonic on August 20, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Trevor on August 20, 2022, 05:40:37 PM
Farken 8.4 seconds, good onya Will
he whooped 'em today. a job well done!
Mustangs have the edge over a race distance.
Hmmmm.....not a Stang even on the podium! Glad I went surfin.....
Did they engineer the speed out of their cars again?
I record it so I have the opportunity to fast forward and watch it when I am bored ****less.
I think it was just the case that T8 and WAU missed their window on the Saturday.....SVG never looked to be headed from Sunday morning...even Feeny got a podium this afternoon.....shows how strong the ZB package is...
I reckon ADP cost Will the win in second race today. Will was good chance of passing SVG down pit straight with a switchback move that ADP got in the way of...was lucky Anton only ruined his own race and not both driver's races.
Even then, with a tyre rubbing for a few laps, damaged bodywork, and bent steering he still had speed over SVG - fastest lap of the race and was closing the gap on SVG (and that wasn't SVG backing off, because Will was also massively increasing the gap to those behind him). Probably wouldn't have had such a large gap to close if they had pitted Will a lap or 2 sooner, and probably would not have been behind SVG if it wasn't for his team-mate.
What is going on with car 11? He even qualified behind Will in today's first race where Will didn't even get to have a second run at qualifying due to the electrical issue. Is it the car? The driver? The engineer? Something not right recently on that side of the garage, and could end up costing them the Teams Championship.
REM with a lot of opinions on something he didn't watch due to having gone surfing ;D
Normal programming has been resumed after an earlier glitch. Seriously though, there was some great racing in all three races, and throughout the field. There was something happening all the time, whether it was the tactical battles, a car slowly gaining time on another, or the wheel-to-wheel stuff, undercutting, etc. The Super 2s and 3s turned it on as well - when they weren't ploughing the infield or destroying each other. They weren't the only ones, but jeez, I'd hate to be a team owner in that category. Apart from the damage, there was some excellent driving, and it's good to pick out the drivers most likely to succeed into the main game.
Will Davison is driving better than ever, super fast and safe, regularly outperforming his younger and previously more highly rated team-mate, but as long as SVG maintains his current form (and keeps improving), it's going to take a special talent to regularly take wins from him.
for mine... Giz was the man today for sure.
1st race today was ho-hum...
2nd race still think Giz deserved the win BUT I do have an issue with the way it came about... a different line into t9 due to shortcutting the t7 chicane should not be used to create a passing opportunity (which it did in this case giving Giz a better change of direction allowing him to come in under Will)... the actual pass in the final corners was a good one but perhaps they need to insert a rule for Sandown that if you do not stay within the designated track limits you are not permitted to pass prior to the front straight?
and the burnout was nice too LOL
and finally... sorry Mike, no merch gals anywhere in sight at Dandy Rd end of the track... they would have had to come in with gumboots as it was a mudbash arena! if I get up to Bathurst this year I should be able to get something for you there
Quote from: Sonic on August 21, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
and finally... sorry Mike, no merch gals anywhere in sight at Dandy Rd end of the track... they would have had to come in with gumboots as it was a mudbash arena! if I get up to Bathurst this year I should be able to get something for you there
I was trying to spot you on the TV coverage (in all races), but those cameras must have been studiously avoiding you.
Quote from: Zac on August 21, 2022, 07:24:01 PM
Quote from: Sonic on August 21, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
and finally... sorry Mike, no merch gals anywhere in sight at Dandy Rd end of the track... they would have had to come in with gumboots as it was a mudbash arena! if I get up to Bathurst this year I should be able to get something for you there
I was trying to spot you on the TV coverage (in all races), but those cameras must have been studiously avoiding you.
LOL! Most of the time I was on top of a 4by at Dandy Rd so I would have been out of their way to get me... plus all the action was at the other end of the circuit this weekend... I must have left my magnet there last weekend at the VicState meeting
Quote from: Sonic on August 21, 2022, 07:47:31 PM
all the action was at the other end of the circuit this weekend... I must have left my magnet there last weekend at the VicState meeting
Plenty of action at all ends, but more 'Dukes of Hazzard' stuff and carnage around 1, 2, 3 and 4. (Did you leave your magnet on that fence behind the armco?)
Quote from: REM on August 21, 2022, 06:30:52 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on August 21, 2022, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: REM on August 21, 2022, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: djr18fan on August 20, 2022, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: Sonic on August 20, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Trevor on August 20, 2022, 05:40:37 PM
Farken 8.4 seconds, good onya Will
he whooped 'em today. a job well done!
Mustangs have the edge over a race distance.
Hmmmm.....not a Stang even on the podium! Glad I went surfin.....
Did they engineer the speed out of their cars again?
I record it so I have the opportunity to fast forward and watch it when I am bored ****less.
I think it was just the case that T8 and WAU missed their window on the Saturday.....SVG never looked to be headed from Sunday morning...even Feeny got a podium this afternoon.....shows how strong the ZB package is...
He won by less than a second you sook.
Quote from: Zac on August 21, 2022, 08:04:27 PM
Quote from: Sonic on August 21, 2022, 07:47:31 PM
all the action was at the other end of the circuit this weekend... I must have left my magnet there last weekend at the VicState meeting
Plenty of action at all ends, but more 'Dukes of Hazzard' stuff and carnage around 1, 2, 3 and 4. (Did you leave your magnet on that fence behind the armco?)
I was on the inside of 2/3/4 last weekend... when I dropped it it must have switched from 'attract' to 'repel' and forced them into the outside fence.
Who won today .
Natsoft is your friend
http://racing.natsoft.com.au/results/#2
I gotta say, the last race yesterday was pretty good. I also thought that they should have pulled Will in a few laps earlier, but alas it wasn't to be
Anton and Will coming together was unavoidable, but looked ugly.
There is certainly some rabble in the bottom end of the 25 - not sure why any of them have a drive - cheap maybe?
Quote from: Trevor on August 22, 2022, 06:40:55 AM
There is certainly some rabble in the bottom end of the 25 - not sure why any of them have a drive - cheap maybe?
Cheap, or daddy has deep pockets and buys the drive, or daddy owns the team. Whatever the reason, they are what we have and I've never been a believer that the absolute best drivers in the country automatically get the drive.
Daddy owns the team, he has the right to put his child in the seat before anyone else, regardless of his talent. Eventually sponsors will drop off if they believe they are not getting value for money, that is usually the catalyst for a driver change. Generally the next wannabe with deep pockets.
The top 4-5 teams are going to be the ones that employ drivers mostly. on ability, and those drivers will generally bring a healthy sponsors package with them
a bit frustrating as there is good drivers out there not getting a go because of the deep pockets of daddy.
Jacobson is a local to me, family owns a big bus company, lots of money, he couldn't drive for **** and needed to go, for example
Quote from: madbugger on August 22, 2022, 07:57:59 AM
The top 4-5 teams are going to be the ones that employ drivers mostly. on ability, and those drivers will generally bring a healthy sponsors package with them
I don't think the drivers of the top 4-5 teams are bring any sponsor, let alone healthy sponsors.
Quote from: Trevor on August 23, 2022, 05:58:49 AM
a bit frustrating as there is good drivers out there not getting a go because of the deep pockets of daddy.
Jacobson is a local to me, family owns a big bus company, lots of money, he couldn't drive for **** and needed to go, for example
You think any other category is any different?
Fact is if you ran a series with only drivers capable of winning you'd be lucky to have 10 cars on the grid! Most guys/girls that bitch about this also bitch about Bathurst not having 50 car grids!
Quote from: Joe5619 on August 23, 2022, 01:49:17 PM
Quote from: madbugger on August 22, 2022, 07:57:59 AM
The top 4-5 teams are going to be the ones that employ drivers mostly. on ability, and those drivers will generally bring a healthy sponsors package with them
I don't think the drivers of the top 4-5 teams are bring any sponsor, let alone healthy sponsors.
Team 5th, Grove, in effect have a pay driver with Reynolds who arrived from Erebus with Penrite support changing with him. That is why Holdsworth is likely to give up his seat for 2023. (If Penrite stay).
Quote from: stevo qld on August 23, 2022, 06:16:51 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on August 23, 2022, 01:49:17 PM
Quote from: madbugger on August 22, 2022, 07:57:59 AM
The top 4-5 teams are going to be the ones that employ drivers mostly. on ability, and those drivers will generally bring a healthy sponsors package with them
I don't think the drivers of the top 4-5 teams are bring any sponsor, let alone healthy sponsors.
Team 5th, Grove, in effect have a pay driver with Reynolds who arrived from Erebus with Penrite support changing with him. That is why Holdsworth is likely to give up his seat for 2023. (If Penrite stay).
And teams 1-4? Not sure why you feel the need to correct, when what I'm saying is correct?
Quote from: Joe5619 on August 23, 2022, 08:41:42 PM
Quote from: stevo qld on August 23, 2022, 06:16:51 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on August 23, 2022, 01:49:17 PM
Quote from: madbugger on August 22, 2022, 07:57:59 AM
The top 4-5 teams are going to be the ones that employ drivers mostly. on ability, and those drivers will generally bring a healthy sponsors package with them
I don't think the drivers of the top 4-5 teams are bring any sponsor, let alone healthy sponsors.
Team 5th, Grove, in effect have a pay driver with Reynolds who arrived from Erebus with Penrite support changing with him. That is why Holdsworth is likely to give up his seat for 2023. (If Penrite stay).
And teams 1-4? Not sure why you feel the need to correct, when what I'm saying is correct?
I was adding, not correcting.
Penrite Oil Sandown SuperSprint - possible spoilers.
I was reminding.
I can do the spoilers Zac
You certainly can, and you do them very well. (Although I think you only do them so we can get a chance to see a few more SVG wins recorded here :).)