Man, I feel like I am being treated as royalty here! I get to start another spolier thread here from the other side of the planet!
Four races. Five bonus points for the fastest lap in each race provided you are in the Top 15.
I did notice that the four individual race distances vary. 19 - 15 - 13 - 13. Time certain can also play a factor. Weather map says maybe a sprinkle Saturday morn.
I thought Formula 2 was going to be there, also, but apparently not.
I won't be watching but a 888 clean sweep for sure, so why bother
A mixed bag of tyre compounds, too. It'll be worth a look, Trev.
44 year anniversary today of the Three Mile Island Nuclear Plant meltdown.
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on March 29, 2023, 01:25:11 AM
Man, I feel like I am being treated as royalty here! I get to start another spolier thread here from the other side of the planet!
Four races. Five bonus points for the fastest lap in each race provided you are in the Top 15.
I did notice that the four individual race distances vary. 19 - 15 - 13 - 13. Time certain can also play a factor. Weather map says maybe a sprinkle Saturday morn.
I thought Formula 2 was going to be there, also, but apparently not.
Should be a good chance to see how they handle the high speed corners.
F2 is definitely there as well.
Carrera Cup, Supercars, F3, F2 and F1.
Quote from: V8SuperRiley on March 29, 2023, 10:34:08 AM
F2 is definitely there as well.
GREAT! I THOUGHT they were going to be there. The schedule on the Supercars website has them as a "Support Category" whereas F3 is listed as "F3". Thanks for the backup, Riley!
Solid rain this morning (as well as overnight) in Melb...
I'm working so unlikely to get there to the GP but might watch a bit on tv... might...
Camaro with a suspected COG advantage on a fast track. Trev might be on to something.
Quote from: AlbertM on March 29, 2023, 06:48:36 PM
Camaro with a suspected COG advantage on a fast track. Trev might be on to something.
Let's wait for the results next week, then we will know.
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Quote from: AlbertM on March 29, 2023, 06:48:36 PM
Camaro with a suspected COG advantage on a fast track. Trev might be on to something.
Let's wait for the results next week, then we will know.
Inspired!
Quote from: mikeamerica84 on March 29, 2023, 04:00:03 AM
44 year anniversary today of the Three Mile Island Nuclear Plant meltdown.
wow, that long ago, I remember that
Quote from: Sonic on March 29, 2023, 11:07:39 AM
Solid rain this morning (as well as overnight) in Melb...
I know I was in Melbourne CBD yesterday morning, it was a bit chaotic, I was glad to get the bus out and get back home
A mate of mine who is a WorkSafe Inspector is working there this weekend - which is interesting in its self - hmmmmm??
Quote from: Trevor on March 30, 2023, 06:37:44 AM
Quote from: Sonic on March 29, 2023, 11:07:39 AM
Solid rain this morning (as well as overnight) in Melb...
I know I was in Melbourne CBD yesterday morning, it was a bit chaotic, I was glad to get the bus out and get back home
A mate of mine who is a WorkSafe Inspector is working there this weekend - which is interesting in its self - hmmmmm??
rain again overnight... the grass sections will be slick at least for the morning.
still overcast here at the moment but no rain a 8am (20km/12ml from city)
on tv looks ok in Melb but we are getting belted in Braeside.
SVG with a major moment in P1, nudging the walls with both front and rear.
Listen to him on and off the throttle as he tries to spin away from the wall. Not sure if it helped, the second rotation seemed much faster than the first.
Good to see the cars getting out of shape at what was previously flat out corners. Update: He actually put a wheel in the grass.
WOW, these cars don't look like they crush well... Can't believe Giz's cars isn't ready for P2.
DJR cars seem closer to the pace but it's only first practice.
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 30, 2023, 01:14:01 PM
WOW, these cars don't look like they crush well... Can't believe Giz's cars isn't ready for P2.
Slade still may not yet make the race! Update: Car wasn't ready for qualifying.
Race 3:
de Pasquale
Kostecki
SVG
Mostert
Waters
Race 4:
SVG
Brown
Feeney
Kostecki
Winterbottom
Shane's just too good.. I wish he'd move overseas so we could have a better championship.
Missed the practice session for Super softs & yet still put it on pole in the qualifying session for Super soft
They could do with bringing in the concrete wall where SVG went in to avoid a spin on the grass like that
Ripper save from SVG. Picked up the throttle to stop it going in hard backwards. Went for another spin but that burnt off the speed.
Quote from: skaifeman on March 30, 2023, 12:53:31 PM
SVG with a major moment in P1, nudging the walls with both front and rear.
Listen to him on and off the throttle as he tries to spin away from the wall. Not sure if it helped, the second rotation seemed much faster than the first.
Good to see the cars getting out of shape at what was previously flat out corners. Update: He actually put a wheel in the grass.
Any other driver would have wrote it off.
Doing all the talking on the track! P3 and pole, brilliant.
Quote from: Troy01505 on March 30, 2023, 06:41:24 PM
Any other driver would have wrote it off.
Every other driver (except Slade) managed to keep it off the wall in the first place. ;D
Quote from: AlbertM on March 30, 2023, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on March 30, 2023, 06:41:24 PM
Any other driver would have wrote it off.
Every other driver (except Slade) managed to keep it off the wall in the first place. ;D
Every other driver has not crossed the line 1st in ,3 from 3 races this year either.
Good to see Chaz and Walkinshaw leading the ford charge when others are struggling again.
Also good to see that the homologation teams clearly have no advantage on the others
What a golden line from Barry Ryan: "Adrian gave us verbal permission and we know that's powerful" ;D ;D
Quote from: skaifeman on March 30, 2023, 01:33:15 PM
Race 4:
SVG
Brown
Feeney
Kostecki
Winterbottom
no surprise at the top, but a few below
What are people's thought on the loop whole that allowed teams to just swap 2 soft?
I'm in 2 minds.. Part of me says "good on them", the other says "what are you celebrating (particularly the BJR cars), you used a loop whole to get undeservingly up the grid"
And quite possibly, I'm a little bitter T18 stuff up Frosty's strategy so much it went the other way.. I might have felt different if T18 had thought of it!!
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 09:47:19 AM
What are people's thought on the loop whole that allowed teams to just swap 2 soft?
I'm in 2 minds.. Part of me says "good on them", the other says "what are you celebrating (particularly the BJR cars), you used a loop whole to get undeservingly up the grid"
And quite possibly, I'm a little bitter T18 stuff up Frosty's strategy so much it went the other way.. I might have felt different if T18 had thought of it!!
I am surprised they ALL didn't twigg??? T8 knew the situation when the call was made they were debating to use 2 softs or not ie dig into their few sets left.
loop hole well its there for all question will they close it???? seems like the SS last a while so they will go long I think and hards used for the last lap???? we will see today
Quote from: LG on March 30, 2023, 01:31:59 PM
DJR cars seem closer to the pace but it's only first practice.
DJR has closed the gap it looks like, LG. Good for the series.
I cannot beLIEVE that only a FEW teams picked up on the wet track/tyre issue.
Hats off to those who did.
Race 2 tomorrow.
My thoughts on loophole. It's 💩 and needs to be closed.
Supposed to take on 4 tyres and use 2 compounds. Whether it is declared a wet race or not shouldn't negate that, though clearly it does. It needs to be changed before the next race.
Nearly every team played by the spirit of the rules, those that didn't are verging on being cheats.
Quote from: Troy01505 on March 30, 2023, 11:59:24 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on March 30, 2023, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on March 30, 2023, 06:41:24 PM
Any other driver would have wrote it off.
Every other driver (except Slade) managed to keep it off the wall in the first place. ;D
Every other driver has not crossed the line 1st in ,3 from 3 races this year either.
Every other team at least had legal cars for on of the 3 😁 ;D
Quote from: AlbertM on March 31, 2023, 01:30:29 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on March 30, 2023, 11:59:24 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on March 30, 2023, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on March 30, 2023, 06:41:24 PM
Any other driver would have wrote it off.
Every other driver (except Slade) managed to keep it off the wall in the first place. ;D
Every other driver has not crossed the line 1st in ,3 from 3 races this year either.
Every other team at least had legal cars for on of the 3 😁 ;D
You've given it the commentators curse: https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/hazelwood-disqualified-from-race-3-qualifying/
:D
Race 4 started by a flag drop! Will Brown went as soon as the wrist moved - hes obviously done his fair share of amateur racing! Well played. I do the same at the Bathurst SuperSprint.
What's the minimum race distance again? It's due to end in 5mins and we've completed 3 laps.
I enjoy Supercars at the AGP but they need to seriously consider withdrawing from the event if F2/F3 continue to eat up the schedule
see what happens when a driver doesn't just pull over and let SVG just sail on past.
A lot of drivers could take a leaf out of Will Browns book. SVG from 2nd to 6th in 3 corners, great to see
Quote from: madbugger on March 31, 2023, 03:31:32 PM
see what happens when a driver doesn't just pull over and let SVG just sail on past.
A lot of drivers could take a leaf out of Will Browns book. SVG from 2nd to 6th in 3 corners, great to see
Kostecki doesn't take anything either, and you just know JC in behind won't roll over. Great racing!
I'm not sure anyone knows what's going on in this race - the commentators certainly don't.
Sleuth or Speedcafe are going to have to write an article to unravel this.
Why the **** do we bother going here??? Just leave this event to F1's & stay at home!
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
Why the **** do we bother going here??? Just leave this event to F1's & stay at home!
I'm loving it. Supercars getting a taste of their own medicine. Now they might feel the pain that support categories get at their events.
Quote from: madbugger on March 31, 2023, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
Why the **** do we bother going here??? Just leave this event to F1's & stay at home!
I'm loving it. Supercars getting a taste of their own medicine. Now they might feel the pain that support categories get at their events.
I have no problems with support categories getting cut.. They are there to support & the race program must be written to the main event.. I just don't think Supercars needs to be a support category..
They would have been better off taking the twilight slot again like they used to at least - so that they can race into the night if needed
That was a joke. Not worthy of championship status.
Have a feeling this won't be the final podium; it looked like Courtney hit the back of Waters into Turn 1 and caused the incident with Reynolds.
I thought Jones and Frosty were on to something there but would need to read the pit window rules again. Although in the past an SC at the start has usually pushed the pit window further anyway.
Quote from: Kytabu on March 31, 2023, 03:45:42 PM
Have a feeling this won't be the final podium; it looked like Courtney hit the back of Waters into Turn 1 and caused the incident with Reynolds.
I thought Jones and Frosty were on to something there but would need to read the pit window rules again. Although in the past an SC at the start has usually pushed the pit window further anyway.
As a Frosty fan I'm glad it didn't work... I've waited a very very long time for another Frosty podium (And God willing a win) & I wouldn't want it that way..
It was shaping up as a great race, a shame about the delayed start & then 2 yellows... Maybe these gen3 cars will produce better racing after all..
Quote from: billybanana on March 31, 2023, 03:45:28 PM
That was a joke. Not worthy of championship status.
Borderline, you're right.
Since there's 4 races, they're only worth 75pts anyway - the least of any other race.
Was there also a safety car stuff up hidden amongst this?
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: madbugger on March 31, 2023, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
Why the **** do we bother going here??? Just leave this event to F1's & stay at home!
I'm loving it. Supercars getting a taste of their own medicine. Now they might feel the pain that support categories get at their events.
I have no problems with support categories getting cut.. They are there to support & the race program must be written to the main event.. I just don't think Supercars needs to be a support category..
If the support categories keep getting screwed over and cut, they will eventually stop coming and where will that leave supercars? Pretty lonely as the only category or with such 💩 support categories that people stop going to events or cutting their expensive pay tv subscriptions.
The supports need to start being treated as partners and not an inconvenience to the main game..
Does a time certain race negate the 75% completed laps??? did they get to 75%?
Quote from: madbugger on March 31, 2023, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: madbugger on March 31, 2023, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
Why the **** do we bother going here??? Just leave this event to F1's & stay at home!
I'm loving it. Supercars getting a taste of their own medicine. Now they might feel the pain that support categories get at their events.
I have no problems with support categories getting cut.. They are there to support & the race program must be written to the main event.. I just don't think Supercars needs to be a support category..
If the support categories keep getting screwed over and cut, they will eventually stop coming and where will that leave supercars? Pretty lonely as the only category or with such 💩 support categories that people stop going to events or cutting their expensive pay tv subscriptions.
The supports need to start being treated as partners and not an inconvenience to the main game..
You're being saying that for 20+ years & the end didn't come!!
At the end of the day, there is only so may light hours in the day & if you dont have support categories stopped short, then they need to biuld bigger breaks (& less support categories) to each race meeting. Then you get people complaining not enough race time on track.. Can't have it both ways.. You either cut them short or have less of them with bigger gaps between race action for most of the time.. But hey, don't let reality get in the way of a story
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Quote from: madbugger on March 31, 2023, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: madbugger on March 31, 2023, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
Why the **** do we bother going here??? Just leave this event to F1's & stay at home!
I'm loving it. Supercars getting a taste of their own medicine. Now they might feel the pain that support categories get at their events.
I have no problems with support categories getting cut.. They are there to support & the race program must be written to the main event.. I just don't think Supercars needs to be a support category..
If the support categories keep getting screwed over and cut, they will eventually stop coming and where will that leave supercars? Pretty lonely as the only category or with such 💩 support categories that people stop going to events or cutting their expensive pay tv subscriptions.
The supports need to start being treated as partners and not an inconvenience to the main game..
You're being saying that for 20+ years & the end didn't come!!
You need to stop choking your chicken or you'll go blind.
Quote from: skaifeman on March 31, 2023, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on March 31, 2023, 01:30:29 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on March 30, 2023, 11:59:24 PM
Quote from: AlbertM on March 30, 2023, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: Troy01505 on March 30, 2023, 06:41:24 PM
Any other driver would have wrote it off.
Every other driver (except Slade) managed to keep it off the wall in the first place. ;D
Every other driver has not crossed the line 1st in ,3 from 3 races this year either.
Every other team at least had legal cars for on of the 3 😁 ;D
You've given it the commentators curse: https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/hazelwood-disqualified-from-race-3-qualifying/
:D
Bwahahaha. :D
I take it something happened again today. I haven't seen or heard anything about anything yet. :)
Glad to see a few people calling out the very dangerous Safety Car inlap rules after the JLB situation today - hopefully they change the rules before there's a serious accident.
Quote from: SetonFan on March 31, 2023, 08:04:30 PM
Glad to see a few people calling out the very dangerous Safety Car inlap rules after the JLB situation today - hopefully they change the rules before there's a serious accident.
+1
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/le-brocqs-terrifying-scenario-under-safety-car/
Quote from: madbugger on March 31, 2023, 06:15:28 PM
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Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: madbugger on March 31, 2023, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
Why the **** do we bother going here??? Just leave this event to F1's & stay at home!
I'm loving it. Supercars getting a taste of their own medicine. Now they might feel the pain that support categories get at their events.
I have no problems with support categories getting cut.. They are there to support & the race program must be written to the main event.. I just don't think Supercars needs to be a support category..
If the support categories keep getting screwed over and cut, they will eventually stop coming and where will that leave supercars? Pretty lonely as the only category or with such 💩 support categories that people stop going to events or cutting their expensive pay tv subscriptions.
The supports need to start being treated as partners and not an inconvenience to the main game..
You're being saying that for 20+ years & the end didn't come!!
You need to stop choking your chicken or you'll go blind.
Don't worry, I've had many decades of experience now, all my eyes are safe!! :) :) :)
Quote from: SetonFan on March 31, 2023, 08:04:30 PM
Glad to see a few people calling out the very dangerous Safety Car inlap rules after the JLB situation today - hopefully they change the rules before there's a serious accident.
Yeah, it looked bad... I saw one clip & they looked like they were racing right pass the crush zone.. They really need to address it...
Quote from: stevo qld on April 01, 2023, 12:36:58 AM
Quote from: SetonFan on March 31, 2023, 08:04:30 PM
Glad to see a few people calling out the very dangerous Safety Car inlap rules after the JLB situation today - hopefully they change the rules before there's a serious accident.
+1
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/le-brocqs-terrifying-scenario-under-safety-car/
It has been a problem from as far back as I can remember. It needs to be addressed before someone is badly injured, or worse, loses their life.
I have Broc Feeney for the fastest lap in Race 1 and Scott Pye for the fastest lap in Race 2. The latter being out of the Top 15 so it is a moot point for Race 2. Vital to the V8CFL scoring.
http://racing.natsoft.com.au/results/#2
Kye?
Thunderstorms all around us in SW Michigan at this time. Might have to declare going to the store to get some cheap beer a wet weather venture. Should I take two, or four?
I think I'll take 12. :)
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/melbourne-formula-1-grand-prix-race-goer-confused-by-police-using-drone-gun/ar-AA19ilLl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d3c107f9204744f5bf8d5527774b8bdd&ei=11
Looks like a weapon out of final fantasy.
For qualy surprised at the lack of ford teams who went for fresh rubber given it was the obvious strategy. Now they only have Mostert flying the flag.
Quote from: stevo qld on April 01, 2023, 12:36:58 AM
Quote from: SetonFan on March 31, 2023, 08:04:30 PM
Glad to see a few people calling out the very dangerous Safety Car inlap rules after the JLB situation today - hopefully they change the rules before there's a serious accident.
+1
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/le-brocqs-terrifying-scenario-under-safety-car/
Walkinshaw is having a go at Feeney for going to slow during the safety car period!
https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/04/01/wau-accuses-feeney-of-safety-car-slowdown/
The photo in that article is at Turn 5 too so it seems to indicate it wasn't just past the crash scene that they were close together, despite what Dutton was implying
Frosty :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
And 2 cars on fire this weekend!! That's a worry..
And why can't anyone ever tap Giz??
Need to ditch the pitstops from these races if they are this length again next year
With Kostecki under investigation as well we could end up with the whole podium being changed.
Yeah why even bother with pitstops in these short races? They're just a mess that we don't need.
agree get rid of them
Quote from: Kytabu on April 01, 2023, 06:20:34 PM
With Kostecki under investigation as well we could end up with the whole podium being changed.
having seen the replay they'd be hard pushed to get an unsafe release for that. both cars behind him momentarily stopped when Kos was released. all good for me.
I am more interested in seeing if car 888 gets a penalty for the placement of the rear tyre that Davo hit. The rear tyre was almost out in the fast lane. If it was placed near the car it would not have been hit. I would think a team penalty for that one should be issued (although if the race had continued no doubt it would have been a drive through)
That was my first thought too Sonic, that the tyre was left in a dangerous position. Isn't there a specific line that they have to be within?
Davo then ran into Fullwood, I'd assume that's what his penalty was for, rather than whacking the wheel?
The big loss here is... if Fullwood just halted for a second to merge behind Fraser, there's no way that Kostecki gets in front! Fullwood would've come out in the lead!
Quote from: skaifeman on April 01, 2023, 07:37:57 PM
That was my first thought too Sonic, that the tyre was left in a dangerous position. Isn't there a specific line that they have to be within?
Davo then ran into Fullwood, I'd assume that's what his penalty was for, rather than whacking the wheel?
The big loss here is... if Fullwood just halted for a second to merge behind Fraser, there's no way that Kostecki gets in front! Fullwood would've come out in the lead!
don't know. if anyone knows how to put up a screen grab in here the difference of where the rear wheel of the 97 is on the ground compared to the front (and the vision of all the other teams in pit lane at that time) is massive. for mine it needs to be addressed as we were fortunate that it bounced to driver's left and the pit lane and not to driver's right and taking out service crew
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/kostecki-keeps-win-after-investigation/
Brodie keeps the win.
Quote from: murph_fan51 on April 01, 2023, 08:09:19 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/kostecki-keeps-win-after-investigation/
Brodie keeps the win.
good to hear
Interesting reading Frosty's comment on his accident - he said "these cars are so fragile" - what the ****!!!!!!, have they designed a piss poor car AGAIN - it sounds like it. It might be safe for the driver but what about the repair bills. I thought Gen 3 was supposed to be cheaper for the teams
Quote from: Trevor on April 02, 2023, 05:17:19 AM
Interesting reading Frosty's comment on his accident - he said "these cars are so fragile" - what the ****!!!!!!, have they designed a piss poor car AGAIN - it sounds like it. It might be safe for the driver but what about the repair bills. I thought Gen 3 was supposed to be cheaper for the teams
How much damage to his car? Frosty said a day ago "thankfully the car is straight".
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/winterbottom-podium-lost-in-turn-1-incident/
Seems like they want to do a rolling start to address the fire situation???
How does a standing start cause a fire??? more like an attempt to calm the race down a bit to get a full race in, how many green flag racing has there been?
Quote from: fordman on April 02, 2023, 07:37:58 AM
Seems like they want to do a rolling start to address the fire situation???
How does a standing start cause a fire??? more like an attempt to calm the race down a bit to get a full race in, how many green flag racing has there been?
The cars generate a lot of heat standing still on the grid, which can cause a component to fail and then start a fire later in the lap. We've seen chaos on rolling starts in the past so it's not a ploy to get a full race in. Although, I find it interesting that there were no issues in Newcastle where it was much hotter.
Between the podiums being changed by penalties, the wet race declaration affecting the pit stop requirements, and the ongoing issues with Gen3, it's been one absolute shambles of a weekend.
I don't get why teams keep drivers out for so long when the timing proves they are losing time to those who stopped early.
Quote from: Ospif1 on April 02, 2023, 10:51:27 AM
I don't get why teams keep drivers out for so long when the timing proves they are losing time to those who stopped early.
Because they need to change to hards & that would make them even slower.
Dare I bring up parity? I think the Mustangs need a bit more..
Quote from: Joe5619 on April 02, 2023, 10:54:48 AM
Quote from: Ospif1 on April 02, 2023, 10:51:27 AM
I don't get why teams keep drivers out for so long when the timing proves they are losing time to those who stopped early.
Because they need to change to hards & that would make them even slower.
Dare I bring up parity? I think the Mustangs need a bit more..
I agree.
At the track the last couple of days, I'm not sure it's an aero tweak though. Not convinced they have engine parity yet...
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Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
Why the **** do we bother going here??? Just leave this event to F1's & stay at home!
I'm loving it. Supercars getting a taste of their own medicine. Now they might feel the pain that support categories get at their events.
I have no problems with support categories getting cut.. They are there to support & the race program must be written to the main event.. I just don't think Supercars needs to be a support category..
If the support categories keep getting screwed over and cut, they will eventually stop coming and where will that leave supercars? Pretty lonely as the only category or with such 💩 support categories that people stop going to events or cutting their expensive pay tv subscriptions.
The supports need to start being treated as partners and not an inconvenience to the main game..
that is how they lost Phillip Island off the schedule... main game plus one national series and then 2 *mashups*... who will pay full price for half a show?
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Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
Why the **** do we bother going here??? Just leave this event to F1's & stay at home!
I'm loving it. Supercars getting a taste of their own medicine. Now they might feel the pain that support categories get at their events.
I have no problems with support categories getting cut.. They are there to support & the race program must be written to the main event.. I just don't think Supercars needs to be a support category..
If the support categories keep getting screwed over and cut, they will eventually stop coming and where will that leave supercars? Pretty lonely as the only category or with such 💩 support categories that people stop going to events or cutting their expensive pay tv subscriptions.
The supports need to start being treated as partners and not an inconvenience to the main game..
You're being saying that for 20+ years & the end didn't come!!
At the end of the day, there is only so may light hours in the day & if you dont have support categories stopped short, then they need to biuld bigger breaks (& less support categories) to each race meeting. Then you get people complaining not enough race time on track.. Can't have it both ways.. You either cut them short or have less of them with bigger gaps between race action for most of the time.. But hey, don't let reality get in the way of a story
**or get rid of the excessive gaps that already exist and use the time in a better fashion... there is NO need for any race to go 'time certain' on a SC weekend.
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Quote from: Joe5619 on April 02, 2023, 10:54:48 AM
Quote from: Ospif1 on April 02, 2023, 10:51:27 AM
I don't get why teams keep drivers out for so long when the timing proves they are losing time to those who stopped early.
Because they need to change to hards & that would make them even slower.
Dare I bring up parity? I think the Mustangs need a bit more..
I agree.
At the track the last couple of days, I'm not sure it's an aero tweak though. Not convinced they have engine parity yet...
Read on Facebook.. Ford teams meet during the weekend to talk parity & it was engine parity.. Seems they feel they are missing something up high, which wasn't as evident in Newcastle.. Hopefully it doesn't become into a **** fight & they get an adjustment BEFORE the next event
Quote from: Sonic on April 02, 2023, 01:58:12 PM
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Quote from: madbugger on March 31, 2023, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on March 31, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
Why the **** do we bother going here??? Just leave this event to F1's & stay at home!
I'm loving it. Supercars getting a taste of their own medicine. Now they might feel the pain that support categories get at their events.
I have no problems with support categories getting cut.. They are there to support & the race program must be written to the main event.. I just don't think Supercars needs to be a support category..
If the support categories keep getting screwed over and cut, they will eventually stop coming and where will that leave supercars? Pretty lonely as the only category or with such 💩 support categories that people stop going to events or cutting their expensive pay tv subscriptions.
The supports need to start being treated as partners and not an inconvenience to the main game..
You're being saying that for 20+ years & the end didn't come!!
At the end of the day, there is only so may light hours in the day & if you dont have support categories stopped short, then they need to biuld bigger breaks (& less support categories) to each race meeting. Then you get people complaining not enough race time on track.. Can't have it both ways.. You either cut them short or have less of them with bigger gaps between race action for most of the time.. But hey, don't let reality get in the way of a story
**or get rid of the excessive gaps that already exist and use the time in a better fashion... there is NO need for any race to go 'time certain' on a SC weekend.
I'm no expert, but from what I see when I'm at the track, there isn't any bigger gaps between races already.. We also have to give Marshalls a break too.. And to be fair to Supercars, they cut their own races short too, so it's not like it's just support categories
Quote from: Joe5619 on April 02, 2023, 10:54:48 AM
Quote from: Ospif1 on April 02, 2023, 10:51:27 AM
I don't get why teams keep drivers out for so long when the timing proves they are losing time to those who stopped early.
Because they need to change to hards & that would make them even slower.
Dare I bring up parity? I think the Mustangs need a bit more..
? Didn't make the drivers who switched to them earlier slower, you know the ones who were behind yet finished comfortably ahead...
Quote from: Ospif1 on April 02, 2023, 04:50:46 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on April 02, 2023, 10:54:48 AM
Quote from: Ospif1 on April 02, 2023, 10:51:27 AM
I don't get why teams keep drivers out for so long when the timing proves they are losing time to those who stopped early.
Because they need to change to hards & that would make them even slower.
Dare I bring up parity? I think the Mustangs need a bit more..
? Didn't make the drivers who switched to them earlier slower, you know the ones who were behind yet finished comfortably ahead...
You mean the drivers who started on the hards and switched to the super softs after one racing lap, the hards are a much slower tyre to the super softs
Quote from: Ospif1 on April 02, 2023, 04:50:46 PM
Quote from: Joe5619 on April 02, 2023, 10:54:48 AM
Quote from: Ospif1 on April 02, 2023, 10:51:27 AM
I don't get why teams keep drivers out for so long when the timing proves they are losing time to those who stopped early.
Because they need to change to hards & that would make them even slower.
Dare I bring up parity? I think the Mustangs need a bit more..
? Didn't make the drivers who switched to them earlier slower, you know the ones who were behind yet finished comfortably ahead...
Someone has already answered your question, but I will too! Everyone who started on Hards, did lap 1 on hards & then changed to softs. Everyone who started on softs did every lap on the softs & then on the last lap changed to Hards.
Is was a dumb setup for the weekend by Supercars..
Quote from: fordman on March 31, 2023, 04:32:01 PM
Does a time certain race negate the 75% completed laps??? did they get to 75%?
The 75% rule applies to a driver laps down relative to the no. of laps completed by the winner. There's a 50% rule for red flagged races (which possibly they only discovered they needed after the pileup in Tassie). But if say a 20 lap race was shortened to 9 laps with no red flags, it probably still counts.
Quote from: Ospif1 on April 02, 2023, 10:51:27 AM
I don't get why teams keep drivers out for so long when the timing proves they are losing time to those who stopped early.
I can only guess that with the hand they were holding and having to go to hards, they were hoping for the safety car to intervene?
For F1 discussion please use https://www.v8central.com/index.php?topic=278.0 and not clutter the Supercars thread.
It must be said, Kostecki has been the big surprise packet. We knew he could drive, and reasonably consistently, but now he's FAST.
Le Brocq has also been great, finishing no worse than 9th (apart from his one DNF).
Quote from: skaifeman on April 03, 2023, 08:47:52 AM
It must be said, Kostecki has been the big surprise packet. We knew he could drive, and reasonably consistently, but now he's FAST.
Le Brocq has also been great, finishing no worse than 9th (apart from his one DNF).
Agree.. I want to hate on them as I don't like Erebus, but it's hard to deny both drivers & the team are doing a very good job!
I thought I had one too many beers when I saw Jack Smith passing Chaz in Race 4 on the same tyre strategy.
Later I realized that Chaz has blistered a tyre badly, but still..... What a strange round. But it is what it is and it was what it was. I am just glad I did not have to pay for any damages or admission to any of these races. I'll take a seat in the Sun at Barbagallo next round over this any day.
I do agree that the mandatory tyre changes should be given the boot. In fact, I would be fine with starting each sprint race with a rolling start.
Quote from: AlbertM on March 29, 2023, 06:48:36 PM
Trev might be on to something.
My favorite post of the thread. Rare moments on V8 Central!
Sorry, Albert, but I had to give you an "Applaud" for that one. Please do not hold it against me! :)
Quote from: Trevor on March 29, 2023, 03:20:35 AM
I won't be watching but a 888 clean sweep for sure, so why bother
How did that prediction go?