The Repco travelling circus winds its way into rural Victoria this weekend. There should be cars racing, and people through the gates to watch cars racing. However, Melbourne may be going back into a Covid induced lockdown.
Makes for a fun lead up to an event that starts tomorrow.
Just been called off and rescheduled for winter break
Everyone leaving circuit now
Wintoff.
Trying to fit it between Townsville and Sydney.
Victoria : State of BS! :@
Quote from: Sonic on May 27, 2021, 01:15:24 PM
Victoria : State of BS! :@
Sicktoria, no wonder Qld has seen a massive increase in mexicans
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I got word it was cancelled when I was going past Wandong heading up the Hume.
Still had to go up and collect a heap of equipment we'd left up there after the Historic event the weekend prior.
Arrived around 1pm and only the Dunlop guys and a couple of Hyundai Excels were still there.
don't believe the SC guys were due to start arriving for their setup til Fri so it didn't affect them so much (Vic teams at least, QLD would have been enroute no doubt) but it sucked for the support categories who had already arrived and unpacked only to be told to go home.
credit to Winton though I believe they opened it up for a test/tune day for those who were already there so it wasn't a total waste of time even though the disappointment remains.
Are all the Vic teams leaving Melbourne to go on another road trip?
Quote from: murph_fan51 on June 02, 2021, 08:13:41 PM
Are all the Vic teams leaving Melbourne to go on another road trip?
I reckon if not yet they will very shortly
Quote from: murph_fan51 on June 02, 2021, 08:13:41 PM
Are all the Vic teams leaving Melbourne to go on another road trip?
Yes, they had to leave Victoria by midnight last night and they have to self-isolate in NSW for 2 weeks to be able to get to Darwin. Some of the teams only agreed to it on the condition that they go home after that round:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/01/klimenko-explains-erebus-stance-on-border-crossing/
And I reckon that Winton will be off next time coz nobody will want to do another 2 weeks quarantine after it.
or if they run it maybe just be the SC... but would the gov cough up their share of the cash if it doesn't benefit the region?
Postponed again...I guess it will be right at the end of the season now with plenty of calendar space in October and November (if indeed it can go ahead at all).
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/01/supercars-postpones-winton-supersprint-again/
will be much nicer weather in that time frame
The teams will definitely appreciate the weather then compared to now.
Quote from: Kytabu on July 01, 2021, 02:18:38 PM
Postponed again...I guess it will be right at the end of the season now with plenty of calendar space in October and November (if indeed it can go ahead at all).
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/01/supercars-postpones-winton-supersprint-again/
This seems to me that they don't think the Australian GP is happening/joining the calendar
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So we won't see this happen this year....stuck in mud!
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Quote from: murph_fan51 on July 01, 2021, 06:33:12 PM
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So we won't see this happen this year....stuck in mud!
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I was the the starter that year, the bloke who starts them and then waves the chequered flag, Skaife was stuck between 11 and 12 and Schencken's comments were very telling I can tell you, not about Ambrose but about Skaife
What was Schenken saying about Skaife?
That the recovery guys can leave him there
Why did Skaife deserve to be left there?
Quote from: Trevor on July 02, 2021, 12:26:21 PM
That the recovery guys can leave him there(even though they could have got him from that spot), and he deserves everything he gets
There was another time when for some unknown reason they put the cars up in the old scrutiny bay instead of the normal pits. Schencken came on the radio and said it will be great watching Skaife have to walk back to the V8SC pits and interact with fans (something he didn't like to do), but Skaife didn't, he walked out onto the track and came back to the V8SC pits that way.
I guess the nepotism goes both ways, unlike many on here believe :).
Sure does sound unprofessional - must have been hard for Skaife and HRT having to beat their on-track rivals and also a race director that had it in for you.
Championship defining moment when Ambrose got himself out of the mud.
Quote from: Iggle Piggle on July 02, 2021, 01:57:34 PM
Sure does sound unprofessional - must have been hard for Skaife and HRT having to beat their on-track rivals and also a race director that had it in for you.
I agree with that. I'm sure Ford teams thought similar in 2019.
Quote from: Iggle Piggle on July 02, 2021, 12:55:44 PM
Why did Skaife deserve to be left there?
ask Schenken
bye
Quote from: AlbertM on July 02, 2021, 04:42:56 PM
I agree with that. I'm sure Ford teams thought similar in 2019.
Why was Schenken biased against all Ford teams in 2019? As race director he should be professional enough to treat all driver's and teams equally, no matter what shared history they may have.
Quote from: Trevor on July 02, 2021, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Iggle Piggle on July 02, 2021, 12:55:44 PM
Why did Skaife deserve to be left there?
ask Schenken
bye
Bye?
Was hoping you might actually know. From the little you have said it was because Schenken did not like Skaife and could not put that dislike to the side to do his job fairly and without malice, but was hoping you could explain why Schenken did not like Skaife.
EDIT: Where did the rest of your post go Trev? Do you need Skaifeman to delete it from where he quoted you so you don't get in trouble?
Not sure what any of this has to do with Winton being postponed twice...
Me either LG, but sure is an interesting and fun chat. Do you think maybe Trev deleted most of what he said because his initial comment suggested they could have recovered Skaife but didn't, when in fact they did pull his car out the mud so he could continue racing?
Do you want us to start a new thread in Nostalgia to discuss Trev's allegations that Schenken was prejudiced towards Skaife?
The decision was the same for both cars at the time, although many laps apart, leave them as they were in relatively safe locations.
Ambrose self recovered although why he NEVER tried to reverse out prior to letting the air out is beyond me and Skaife was dragged out when a Safety Car was called for another incident.
Skaife was still classified as a finisher as he just managed to get the required 75 laps in the 100 lap race to do 75% race distance.
Anyway back on topic.
Word has it the reschedule date is November but I note Supercars already has NZ, F1GP & Gold Coast all 2 weeks apart in November already.
Quote from: PVDA on July 03, 2021, 09:49:41 AM
The decision was the same for both cars at the time, although many laps apart, leave them as they were in relatively safe locations.
Ambrose self recovered although why he NEVER tried to reverse out prior to letting the air out is beyond me and Skaife was dragged out when a Safety Car was called for another incident.
Skaife was still classified as a finisher as he just managed to get the required 75 laps in the 100 lap race to do 75% race distance.
Anyway back on topic.
Word has it the reschedule date is November but I note Supercars already has NZ, F1GP & Gold Coast all 2 weeks apart in November already.
Winton to fill the AGP void?
Quote from: CP on July 08, 2021, 08:10:11 AM
Quote from: PVDA on July 03, 2021, 09:49:41 AM
The decision was the same for both cars at the time, although many laps apart, leave them as they were in relatively safe locations.
Ambrose self recovered although why he NEVER tried to reverse out prior to letting the air out is beyond me and Skaife was dragged out when a Safety Car was called for another incident.
Skaife was still classified as a finisher as he just managed to get the required 75 laps in the 100 lap race to do 75% race distance.
Anyway back on topic.
Word has it the reschedule date is November but I note Supercars already has NZ, F1GP & Gold Coast all 2 weeks apart in November already.
Winton to fill the AGP void?
With a double round for Winton and AGP... Winton short and long track... it needs to be done dammit! :D
Quote from: Sonic on July 08, 2021, 08:30:13 AM
With a double round for Winton and AGP... Winton short and long track... it needs to be done dammit! :D
I could never race the short track, same as I couldn't race Wakefield Park, I get too much motion sickness, back (short) straight, heavy braking then that quick right, left then right would do me in everytime :-X
Quote from: Trevor on July 08, 2021, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: Sonic on July 08, 2021, 08:30:13 AM
With a double round for Winton and AGP... Winton short and long track... it needs to be done dammit! :D
I could never race the short track, same as I couldn't race Wakefield Park, I get too much motion sickness, back (short) straight, heavy braking then that quick right, left then right would do me in everytime :-X
yeah it's not for everybody... but these guys are supposed to be the best of the best, would love to see them on the short track.
Quote from: Trevor on July 08, 2021, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: Sonic on July 08, 2021, 08:30:13 AM
With a double round for Winton and AGP... Winton short and long track... it needs to be done dammit! :D
I could never race the short track, same as I couldn't race Wakefield Park, I get too much motion sickness, back (short) straight, heavy braking then that quick right, left then right would do me in everytime :-X
That back straight certainly was short. One of my favourite memories of winton is driving a mates RX3 coupe there on a private practice day. I was almost to my braking marker when I looked in the rear view mirror to see a F5000 coming out of the hairpin. He made the first right hand corner before me.
He was heading into the sweeper as I trundled over the start finish line. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Damn that thing was quick. Not sure what his lap times were, I was doing around 1.16, The Shell Sierra' s were doing around 1.02 and I think the F5000 record was about 56 seconds
The GM product will be a 5.7L:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/10/supercars-confirms-gen3-camaro-engine-capacity/
If the reason is because it'll be easier for parity, that'll do me.
As a modest tuner myself, there's a million ways to pull any one engine down to suit another, just with a tune, let alone any internals...
...not to mention they're probably paying Ilmor an arm and a leg to get the things even, GM should decide what they want to run, not Supercars.
Without going too far off topic, is Hampton or Hamptoff? Will the NZ round happen? I'm starting to think it won't :(
Quote from: murph_fan51 on July 12, 2021, 06:55:44 PM
Without going too far off topic, is Hampton or Hamptoff? Will the NZ round happen? I'm starting to think it won't :(
At this point even wondering how much of any of the SC season is on/off with 2/3 of the east coast locked down.
All the Vic teams were gone last year, maybe this year they can do the reverse and get the northern teams to come down here for a month or so and run a bunch of races in Vic with 3 tracks/4 layouts available... Sandown becomes the feature for the year if Bathurst can't run... has there ever been a Sandown 1000? (think it would prob be pretty boring though, 500 is enough there)
I would rather see Bathurst return 'home', make it the Phillip Island 1000 :D
Quote from: Trevor on July 13, 2021, 10:34:29 AM
I would rather see Bathurst return 'home', make it the Phillip Island 1000 :D
That would be good. Vic double of Sandown 500 and Island 1000!
Winton ran an event using the traditional short circuit last weekend, this weekend was supposed to be an AMRS round using the long track but the lockdown sadly scuppered that event.
There is two historic events at Winton with one using the short track for the last 44 years and the newer event the long track.
Even though it's only QR, good to see them going there for the next round rather than another duplicate round at The Bend/Townsville etc.
Quote from: SetonFan on July 18, 2021, 01:51:18 PM
Even though it's only QR, good to see them going there for the next round rather than another duplicate round at The Bend/Townsville etc.
And yet the racing is always good at QR...
QR looks like a boring layout but having driven it it is not that bad.
We should probably consign QR chat to a Qr event thread I think.
So are now a Moderator Paul?
So Winton is now penciled in for 2-3 October and a TBA round a couple of weeks later rumoured to be a 2+4 at PI.