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Title: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on June 12, 2021, 08:22:36 AM
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/04/22/dane-confirms-six-strong-shortlist-to-replace-whincup/

So who’s going to get the #88 seat next year?

Broc Feeny?
B Kostecki?
Angelo Mouzouris?
Randal?
Bamber?
Mostert?
Waters?

Surely one of them?

And if Kostecki gets that drive does that mean it opens up a Boost seat at Erebus for......Stanaways return?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: AlbertM on June 12, 2021, 06:56:55 PM
Of that list, Waters or Mostert. they won't run with an unknown.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on June 15, 2021, 08:45:11 AM
We can rule Mostert out:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/15/mostert-inks-long-term-wau-extension/

Not a bad move by Chaz. He has that team built around him. If he goes to 888 he has to be a part of the SVG show.

And the bigger picture of the season here:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/15/state-of-play-the-supercars-driver-market/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: brighty08 on June 15, 2021, 08:34:26 PM
My bet is Feeney.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on June 15, 2021, 09:36:53 PM
Only a 3rd with contracts for next year has me wondering if the still unconfirmed costs with the next generation cars is playing a part of how much teams can afford to pay drivers and whether or not teams are struggling to get sponsors committed for beyond 2021.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/driver-market-how-the-2022-supercars-grid-is-shaping-up/?mkt_tok=NDA4LVpUVy0wNzUAAAF9rhYd9YovWj_B-fGouQXsfIzG9C9G6YW9u-yiTKVApGVP9tqe2JptorqQd_0dmNdrmrdwl-byHlhKZtnNVU4AVVZC7F4CXtAredmyppk

Supercars management are failing the teams, the clown at the top and his supporters need to go!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on June 18, 2021, 11:58:12 AM
It's interesting that Tickford have been successful in getting a REC back for 2022 but Supercars have chosen to deny MSR.


https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/18/supercars-grants-tickford-fourth-rec-msr-misses-out/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on June 18, 2021, 04:01:41 PM
Two REC's were available too.
You'd assume that MSR didn't have a very compelling case?

Means Tickford can keep their three drivers and include Randle as a full-timer.
...and confirmed: https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/18/randle-confirmed-for-2022-full-time-supercars-seat/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on June 20, 2021, 02:18:02 PM
It's interesting that Tickford have been successful in getting a REC back for 2022 but Supercars have chosen to deny MSR.


https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/18/supercars-grants-tickford-fourth-rec-msr-misses-out/

I am thinking someone with better financial backing will pop up later in the year
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: CP on June 20, 2021, 03:14:54 PM
It's interesting that Tickford have been successful in getting a REC back for 2022 but Supercars have chosen to deny MSR.


https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/18/supercars-grants-tickford-fourth-rec-msr-misses-out/

I am thinking someone with better financial backing will pop up later in the year

Maybe an additional Boost to 26 cars?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on June 21, 2021, 04:34:25 PM
It's interesting that Tickford have been successful in getting a REC back for 2022 but Supercars have chosen to deny MSR.


https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/18/supercars-grants-tickford-fourth-rec-msr-misses-out/

I am thinking someone with better financial backing will pop up later in the year

Maybe an additional Boost to 26 cars?

Cryptic?
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/21/adderton-promises-feeney-2022-main-game-seat/

I think we're stuck at 25 after that REC process, no?
Feeney could show up anywhere really, anyone who needs a sponsor, and could potentially come with some 888 assistance.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Wrighty05 on June 21, 2021, 05:16:34 PM
If I was to bet, I would be looking at Bamber for the #88 seat
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on June 21, 2021, 06:00:28 PM
If I was to bet, I would be looking at Bamber for the #88 seat

Why Bamber?
He seems pretty tied up with Porsche running his own team, or has that ended? Seems a far-cry from a full-time Supercars gig.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on June 21, 2021, 09:34:58 PM
There were comments from one of the 888 owners at the weekend that even if they selected a driver currently on the grid, it would open up a slot for a younger driver in the seat vacated.

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Broc Feeney will make his full-time debut in the 2022 Repco Supercars Championship whether or not he is selected to succeed Jamie Whincup at Triple Eight Race Engineering.

That’s the stunning assurance Boost Mobile mogul Peter Adderton has made, as intrigue continue to swirl around who will score the plum #88 seat when seven-time champion Whincup retires at season’s end.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/21/adderton-promises-feeney-2022-main-game-seat/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on June 24, 2021, 09:47:51 AM
Coke money behind Pither:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/24/coca-cola-commits-to-pither-2022-supercars-drive/

So two drivers have money but no team...
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on June 24, 2021, 11:35:26 AM
Feeney now has the backing and if 888 don't grab him, I feel he might be back at Tickford with Courtney assigned as his endurance co-driver in a Boost car. A heap of $$$$ might place him in a MSR or TS car.

Pither might find himself back at Team Sydney since one of TS major sponsors now has 888 to play with. Alternatively, he could do a maximum wildcard effort. One of the BJR drivers might find himself reduced to wild cards and enduro co driving with Pither stepping into the seat. (Hint: Daddy may own the team but he needs a sponsor to pay the bills.)

MSR are still wanting to run three cars. They only have one REC as far as I can see. The Rosenberg REC currently resides there for their second. Could Smith be on the move with the family REC. Such a move could see MSR third car garage teaming with Cooldrive and saving them a heap of money, around $200,000. Would work well if MSR go Mustang with gen 3.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/22/brt-facing-200000-cost-spike-due-to-rec-decision/

E and O E
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: brighty08 on June 25, 2021, 10:11:08 PM
What about Percat to T8, Pither to BJR, and Feeney to Tickford to replace Le Brocq?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Wrighty05 on June 27, 2021, 09:28:44 AM
Percat has already publicly said 888 aren’t interested in him
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on June 30, 2021, 06:28:10 PM
Percat has already publicly said 888 aren’t interested in him
Seems that way as he’s just re signed with BJR.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/bjr-announces-percat-contract-extension/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on July 13, 2021, 02:45:05 PM
Is Jamie just throwing some off the scent?
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/12/whincup-a-few-internationals-in-contention-for-my-seat/

Or is Bamber a real chance?
Brown certainly put his hand up (even though locked in at Erebus), and Feeney is doing himself big favours in Super2.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on July 14, 2021, 02:54:59 PM
Simona?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: hsv8fan on July 15, 2021, 10:16:57 AM
Simona?

Not a silly thought. They nearly got her before
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on July 16, 2021, 12:03:05 PM
Simona?

Not a silly thought. They nearly got her before

Triple 8 want to add championships and Bathurst victories and their not going to do that with a driver not suited to the series
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on July 21, 2021, 08:14:53 PM
IMHO: Of the unsigned and available current drivers:

The absolute best uncontracted driver is stiil Jamie Whincup, but we can rule him out.

Todd Hazlewood is the second most outstanding for choice by 888.

If Todd is selected, Feeney, guaranteed a start by Boost, could find himself in a BJR Boost backed car., or replacing Courtney in an FPR return.

Scott Pye was supported for years by Roland Dane, both Overseas and in Australia. He should not be ruled out.

We still wait, with interest, on the selection of an overseas wildcard or one of the top S5000 drivers, Joey Mawson or James Golding.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Wrighty05 on July 21, 2021, 09:15:21 PM
Murphy talking up Bamber, as I mentioned a few weeks back.

🤔
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on July 22, 2021, 09:02:50 AM
IMHO: Of the unsigned and available current drivers:

The absolute best uncontracted driver is stiil Jamie Whincup, but we can rule him out.

Todd Hazlewood is the second most outstanding for choice by 888.

If Todd is selected, Feeney, guaranteed a start by Boost, could find himself in a BJR Boost backed car., or replacing Courtney in an FPR return.

Scott Pye was supported for years by Roland Dane, both Overseas and in Australia. He should not be ruled out.

We still wait, with interest, on the selection of an overseas wildcard or one of the top S5000 drivers, Joey Mawson or James Golding.

Pye will not be at triple 8, my money is on a Dude aligned driver.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on July 22, 2021, 09:19:54 AM
Percat has already publicly said 888 aren’t interested in him
Seems that way as he’s just re signed with BJR.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/bjr-announces-percat-contract-extension/
You know, money aside, I'd love to drive for Brad Jones.  They just seem like a fun bunch of folks.  Hope Nick propsers.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on July 22, 2021, 11:58:21 AM
.... and "prospers".   ::)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: brighty08 on July 25, 2021, 10:13:44 AM
Still fuming there aren't 26 RECS
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on July 26, 2021, 04:22:38 PM
The Groves have purchased the remaining 50% of the team from Todd and Rick, but the Kelly's retain the engineering business and the Mustangs.

I suppose the Groves will borrow the Mustangs for the first part of 2022.

What Gen 3 cars will they run?? 
The Groves have extensive ties to the VW Group.

Will the driver lineup change? It might be a good time to clean out the driving roster deadwood. (Hint: I would keep Heimgartner. ;D )

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/26/grove-takes-full-ownership-of-kgr-kelly-to-depart/

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/26/kelly-now-is-the-time-to-hand-over-the-reins/

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/kellys-sell-remaining-team-stake-to-groves/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on July 26, 2021, 10:19:50 PM
Another jumps off the sinking ship.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: djr18fan on July 27, 2021, 04:25:57 AM
Another jumps off the sinking ship.

New owner doubles investment. Previous owner stays in the game with engine & parts manufacture to multiple teams.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on July 27, 2021, 10:20:51 AM
Another jumps off the sinking ship.

And one jumps on. Status quo...

Kelly's look like they want to do similar to GRM. Keeping their fabrication and engine workshop (and the current 'stangs).
Dare say we'll see a lot more 'customer' teams of KR.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on July 27, 2021, 10:57:11 AM
Another jumps off the sinking ship.

And one jumps on. Status quo...

Kelly's look like they want to do similar to GRM. Keeping their fabrication and engine workshop (and the current 'stangs).
Dare say we'll see a lot more 'customer' teams of KR.

Maybe parts but definitely not cars
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on July 27, 2021, 12:45:44 PM
Another jumps off the sinking ship.

And one jumps on. Status quo...

Kelly's look like they want to do similar to GRM. Keeping their fabrication and engine workshop (and the current 'stangs).
Dare say we'll see a lot more 'customer' teams of KR.

Maybe parts but definitely not cars

As mentioned prior:

Why not?

The Kellys will still have three Mustangs and could run a Super 2 team in 2023, should they choose. They also have some Nissans which are eligible for Super2 in 2022.

The Kellys  have been a licensed chassis builder and could still build Gen 3 chassis, or even complete cars for customers such as Grove.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on July 27, 2021, 01:38:53 PM
Another jumps off the sinking ship.

And one jumps on. Status quo...

Kelly's look like they want to do similar to GRM. Keeping their fabrication and engine workshop (and the current 'stangs).
Dare say we'll see a lot more 'customer' teams of KR.

Maybe parts but definitely not cars

Doesn't have to be just Supercars.
They've toiled in TCR and with an engine program could cater for a fair bit outside of those realms - which is what it sounds like Todd wants to do.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on July 28, 2021, 03:29:20 PM
Looking like the season is going to be given a reshuffle, including the big one:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/28/bathurst-1000-postponement-looming/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on July 29, 2021, 06:34:23 PM
Looking like the season is going to be given a reshuffle, including the big one:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/28/bathurst-1000-postponement-looming/

supercars to find a race track to be on the same weekend as arg? just throwing it out there...
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on July 29, 2021, 08:47:18 PM
Looking like the season is going to be given a reshuffle, including the big one:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/28/bathurst-1000-postponement-looming/

supercars to find a race track to be on the same weekend as arg? just throwing it out there...

I'd be happy with that.
Just hoping it doesn't mess with the Speed Weekend I've planned on entering.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on July 30, 2021, 08:20:15 AM
Looking like the season is going to be given a reshuffle, including the big one:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/28/bathurst-1000-postponement-looming/

'22 or '21?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on July 30, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
Looking like the season is going to be given a reshuffle, including the big one:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/07/28/bathurst-1000-postponement-looming/

'22 or '21?

 :D :D Good pickup.



Red Bull staying in for another 2 years:
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/red-bull-commits-to-extension-with-triple-eight/

Likely means that Red Bull see Supercars being the motorsport with most eyes on it for the next couple years.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on August 10, 2021, 04:51:26 PM
Earl Barber was mentioned in the recent podcast of Below The Bonnet as most likely to replace Whincup.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: AlbertM on August 10, 2021, 08:52:15 PM
Who is Earl Barber?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on August 11, 2021, 02:01:02 PM
Who is Earl Barber?

He cuts my hair.

Bamber was mentioned earlier on this forum as an option, I don't see why though?
Is his association with Porsche ending?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on August 11, 2021, 06:03:28 PM
Who is Earl Barber?
Haha my iPad auto corrected it. Didn’t notice.

There has been no confirmation of his Porsche arrangements. I wonder if Red Bull have a say on who the next car #88 driver is.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on August 13, 2021, 10:06:49 AM
Just some Red Bull media I'd say:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/08/13/confirmed-bamber-not-on-triple-eights-radar-for-2022/

Bamber not an option.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on August 20, 2021, 03:18:40 PM
Whincup says it’ll be announced this month:

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/timeline-set-on-whincup-replacement-announcement/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on August 20, 2021, 05:25:03 PM
Whincup says it’ll be announced this month:

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/timeline-set-on-whincup-replacement-announcement/

I suspected that it would be announced after Bathurst 1000 and driver's performance evaluated.

Whincup, on the Commission, will be aware that a Bathutrst 1000 is unlikely in 2021, so why wait?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on August 20, 2021, 09:07:38 PM
Bathurst will go ahead regardless, only thing that may change is the date, no fans and limited staff.

My guess is that everyone will have to be fully vaccinated also.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on August 22, 2021, 04:27:03 PM
Read in the Qld. Sunday Mail (cant provide a digital reference):

Renee Gracie, who rumour has it makes more money without her driving suit than in it, has apparently announced plans to buy a Supercar to run in Bathurst 2022 where she expects a top 10 finish.

An unnamed team owner has said that it will cost $500,000 for a car and another $500,000 to run it. No mention of REC or Wildcard.

Of course, 2022 is set to use the el-cheapo Gen 3 cars.

P.S. Did a bit of searching.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9915589/OnlyFans-star-Renee-Gracie-spend-1-million-fund-return-V8-supercar-race-circuit.html

and this one suggests 2021.
Quote
Bathurst 2021: Renee Gracie to spend almost $1 million in ...
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/motor-sport/bathurst-2021...
Renee Gracie is set to spend almost $1 million in a bid to return to the sport she abandoned for porn. The V8 pin-up girl turned adult actor is set to buy her own team as part of a plan to race at ...


















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Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Tasv8 on August 22, 2021, 07:05:01 PM
Read in the Qld. Sunday Mail (cant provide a digital reference):

Renee Gracie, who rumour has it makes more money without her driving suit than in it, has apparently announced plans to buy a Supercar to run in Bathurst 2022 where she expects a top 10 finish.

An unnamed team owner has said that it will cost $500,000 for a car and another $500,000 to run it. No mention of REC or Wildcard.

Of course, 2022 is set to use the el-cheapo Gen 3 cars.

P.S. Did a bit of searching.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9915589/OnlyFans-star-Renee-Gracie-spend-1-million-fund-return-V8-supercar-race-circuit.html

and this one suggests 2021.
Quote
Bathurst 2021: Renee Gracie to spend almost $1 million in ...
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/motor-sport/bathurst-2021...
Renee Gracie is set to spend almost $1 million in a bid to return to the sport she abandoned for porn. The V8 pin-up girl turned adult actor is set to buy her own team as part of a plan to race at ...





She could pull off a big surprise :-*.


















;
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on August 22, 2021, 09:42:42 PM
Read in the Qld. Sunday Mail (cant provide a digital reference):

Renee Gracie, who rumour has it makes more money without her driving suit than in it, has apparently announced plans to buy a Supercar to run in Bathurst 2022 where she expects a top 10 finish.

An unnamed team owner has said that it will cost $500,000 for a car and another $500,000 to run it. No mention of REC or Wildcard.

Of course, 2022 is set to use the el-cheapo Gen 3 cars.

P.S. Did a bit of searching.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9915589/OnlyFans-star-Renee-Gracie-spend-1-million-fund-return-V8-supercar-race-circuit.html

and this one suggests 2021.
Quote
Bathurst 2021: Renee Gracie to spend almost $1 million in ...
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/motor-sport/bathurst-2021...
Renee Gracie is set to spend almost $1 million in a bid to return to the sport she abandoned for porn. The V8 pin-up girl turned adult actor is set to buy her own team as part of a plan to race at ...





She could pull off a big surprise :-*.


















;

She’d want to hurry before only fans ban sexual expletive content and she has to turn to hard core porn to keep the cash cumming
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: madbugger on August 23, 2021, 05:56:58 AM
Read in the Qld. Sunday Mail (cant provide a digital reference):

Renee Gracie, who rumour has it makes more money without her driving suit than in it, has apparently announced plans to buy a Supercar to run in Bathurst 2022 where she expects a top 10 finish.

An unnamed team owner has said that it will cost $500,000 for a car and another $500,000 to run it. No mention of REC or Wildcard.

Of course, 2022 is set to use the el-cheapo Gen 3 cars.

P.S. Did a bit of searching.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9915589/OnlyFans-star-Renee-Gracie-spend-1-million-fund-return-V8-supercar-race-circuit.html

and this one suggests 2021.
Quote
Bathurst 2021: Renee Gracie to spend almost $1 million in ...
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/motor-sport/bathurst-2021...
Renee Gracie is set to spend almost $1 million in a bid to return to the sport she abandoned for porn. The V8 pin-up girl turned adult actor is set to buy her own team as part of a plan to race at ...


;

I saw some of her movies. Her acting ability was on a par with her driving ability, that is to say, fairly ordinary.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: jd on August 23, 2021, 11:59:59 AM
That rear end puts a 9" to shame :D
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on August 27, 2021, 09:20:46 AM
https://autoaction.com.au/2021/08/24/whincup-replacement-set

Surprised no one has mentioned, Whincups replacement will be announced on Tuesday 31st August!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on August 27, 2021, 09:28:48 AM
https://autoaction.com.au/2021/08/24/whincup-replacement-set

Surprised no one has mentioned, Whincups replacement will be announced on Tuesday 31st August!

Red Bull media at it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_qJqKvKPKs&t=2s

Some great innuendo in there.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on August 31, 2021, 10:10:57 AM
And it's official: Feeney to 888
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/feeney-confirmed-as-whincup-replacement-at-triple-eight/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on August 31, 2021, 12:24:24 PM
Great pick up by both
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on August 31, 2021, 01:10:33 PM
Another Paul Morris protege gets a Super1 ride.

Paul gets a lot of rubbish piled on him by keyboard warriors but seems to be well respected for driver advancement and training by top teams, 888, DJR, Erebus and Tickford for starters.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: AlbertM on August 31, 2021, 02:47:12 PM
Something to look forward to in 2022.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on August 31, 2021, 05:08:30 PM
And this was always going to be the fallout of Whincup retiring:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/08/31/future-wildcard-could-keep-lowndes-at-triple-eight/

I'd 100% keep Tander in the team over Lowndes, but I thought Lowndes and his history at 888 would see Tander get the flick.
Whincup suggests that it's Lowndes on the outer! If there's anyone able to market themselves into a wildcard it's Lowndes.

888 playing it smart. If they can keep Tander and Lowndes, they have undoubtedly the 3 best (assuming McLaughlin doesn't return) co-drivers for 2022. Meaning they don't lose one to a rival.

Would love to see either GT or Lowndes reunite with Walkinshaw and partner Chaz - can only dream.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Mechz on September 01, 2021, 04:21:10 PM
I saw the FoxSports News clip on Feeney and I guessed he gets the ride because he won the Lowndes look-a-like contest.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on September 01, 2021, 07:06:17 PM
And it's official: Feeney to 888
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/feeney-confirmed-as-whincup-replacement-at-triple-eight/
Pretty amazing to be an 18 y/o and get the #1 seat in the category! Wow.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on September 01, 2021, 09:45:23 PM
And this was always going to be the fallout of Whincup retiring:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/08/31/future-wildcard-could-keep-lowndes-at-triple-eight/

I'd 100% keep Tander in the team over Lowndes, but I thought Lowndes and his history at 888 would see Tander get the flick.
Whincup suggests that it's Lowndes on the outer! If there's anyone able to market themselves into a wildcard it's Lowndes.

888 playing it smart. If they can keep Tander and Lowndes, they have undoubtedly the 3 best (assuming McLaughlin doesn't return) co-drivers for 2022. Meaning they don't lose one to a rival.

Would love to see either GT or Lowndes reunite with Walkinshaw and partner Chaz - can only dream.

Lowndes last competitive drive with a chance at Victory, next year he’ll be mentoring and just in the 10
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on September 07, 2021, 12:24:41 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/kelly-grove-racing-confirms-heimgartner-exit/

Where will Andre end up?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on September 07, 2021, 02:50:57 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/kelly-grove-racing-confirms-heimgartner-exit/

Where will Andre end up?

And whether NED's Whiskey goes with him.
Speedcafe suggest BJR is the favourite.

Tickford or WAU would be the goal. But the seats available require money.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Wrighty05 on September 07, 2021, 05:42:07 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/kelly-grove-racing-confirms-heimgartner-exit/

Where will Andre end up?

BJR
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on September 07, 2021, 05:44:10 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/kelly-grove-racing-confirms-heimgartner-exit/

Where will Andre end up?

BJR
I hope not. Would like to see him in car 2.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: hsv8fan on September 07, 2021, 06:02:00 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/kelly-grove-racing-confirms-heimgartner-exit/

Where will Andre end up?

BJR
I hope not. Would like to see him in car 2.

Forget which site, Sppedcafe or something, Rumour today was Lee Holdsworth to replace Fullwood.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on September 07, 2021, 08:44:56 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/kelly-grove-racing-confirms-heimgartner-exit/

Where will Andre end up?

BJR
I hope not. Would like to see him in car 2.

Forget which site, Sppedcafe or something, Rumour today was Lee Holdsworth to replace Fullwood.

Speedcafe does suggest that:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/07/what-heimgartner-move-means-for-2022-supercars-driver-market/

Left field from WAU if true... I would've thought Heimgartner was the man if they wanted a non-pay driver.
Bryce has a sponsor behind him and has all the credentials to become a consistent front-runner with a few more years under his belt. Seems odd to go for Lee, who's at the opposite end of the curve.

I have read a few rumours that Hazelwood and Fullwood swap seats. Starting to become a real silly season now.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: AlbertM on September 07, 2021, 09:01:16 PM
Andre is better of with WAU or Tickford. Any where else is a step backwards. WAU and Tickford need better drivers to compliment Chaz and Waters.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: SetonFan on September 08, 2021, 05:45:42 PM
I don't particularly want to see Holdsworth get another go - would be nice to see someone else come in or even for them to stick with Fullwood.

The one spot that could make sense for Lethal is at KGR on a 1-year deal until Payne is ready. Dropping Payne straight into the main series looks like a mistake to me so I reckon a year in Super2 before a 2023 debut would make far more sense.

Hopefully Hazelwood doesn't end up without a seat.

Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on September 09, 2021, 04:41:59 PM
Silly Season indeed.

This article suggests multiple 'sources' say Fullwood is a done deal at Tickford:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/09/fullwood-responds-to-talk-of-tickford-done-deal/?fbclid=IwAR3wWApMgNNvik0wHi3M8ncFhAJt3a62ydVSmmBGYRPTpspR84fAkvsOOBM

Percat back to Walkinshaw? I'd be happy with that.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on September 09, 2021, 04:58:38 PM
Silly Season indeed.

This article suggests multiple 'sources' say Fullwood is a done deal at Tickford:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/09/fullwood-responds-to-talk-of-tickford-done-deal/?fbclid=IwAR3wWApMgNNvik0wHi3M8ncFhAJt3a62ydVSmmBGYRPTpspR84fAkvsOOBM

Percat back to Walkinshaw? I'd be happy with that.

I think Percat is totally ensconced at BJR.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: SetonFan on September 09, 2021, 05:40:46 PM
I agree that Percat to WAU and Hazelwood/Heimgartner at BJR would be a good outcome. 

Silly Season indeed.

This article suggests multiple 'sources' say Fullwood is a done deal at Tickford:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/09/fullwood-responds-to-talk-of-tickford-done-deal/?fbclid=IwAR3wWApMgNNvik0wHi3M8ncFhAJt3a62ydVSmmBGYRPTpspR84fAkvsOOBM

Percat back to Walkinshaw? I'd be happy with that.

I think Percat is totally ensconced at BJR.

I'm surprised that he moved to the Gold Coast - even disregarding border issues, doesn't make it easy to pop into the workshop.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Wrighty05 on September 09, 2021, 06:59:04 PM
Percat leaving BJR as well
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: SetonFan on September 09, 2021, 07:07:06 PM
Percat leaving BJR as well

Article now up; https://autoaction.com.au/2021/09/09/exclusive-percat-quits-brad-jones-racing (https://autoaction.com.au/2021/09/09/exclusive-percat-quits-brad-jones-racing)

Dominoes are falling over now!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on September 09, 2021, 08:22:32 PM
Silly Season indeed.

This article suggests multiple 'sources' say Fullwood is a done deal at Tickford:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/09/fullwood-responds-to-talk-of-tickford-done-deal/?fbclid=IwAR3wWApMgNNvik0wHi3M8ncFhAJt3a62ydVSmmBGYRPTpspR84fAkvsOOBM

Percat back to Walkinshaw? I'd be happy with that.

I think Percat is totally ensconced at BJR.

My thoughts too. Heimgartner coming over may have changed that?
Percat has a soft spot for Walkinshaw - and they too him.

Update: Auto Action breaking it
https://autoaction.com.au/2021/09/09/exclusive-percat-quits-brad-jones-racing?fbclid=IwAR16U_9RXfGdasrqQKUdFKCuw2_74z9kwXQiIVG64rfT2BiTBui_VCRLD4Q
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on September 09, 2021, 08:44:19 PM
As David Reynolds has proven time and time again with multiple teams, contracts are not worth the dunny paper he draped all over Rick Kelly's desk back in the day.  Team owners know that there is no gain in holding a driver to a Contract if he/she does not want to drive for them.

Wherever the chips fall, good luck to all the teams and drivers in 2002.

This is increasingly the time of pay drivers in Supercars, i.e. Daddy's money or an associated Sponsor's money, or even your own money if one runs a company or porno type website.  Some teams absolutely need pay drivers.

Tough luck to the drivers hoping to advance based on talent.

When the music stops in the game of musical chairs, Jack Le Brocq looks like the one left standing in the corner.

Macauley might fall on his sword for the sake of the company and run Super 2. Hazelwood is still a chance, or at least a few wildcards and an endurance ride with MSR or BJR. (Remember that MSR only own a single REC at last announcement, with the second on loan from a Hazelwood supporter.)

There are a couple of other drivers lurking in the background, such as Kurt Kostecki, Chris Pither and Renee Gracie (with family money, sponsor money or personal money too.)

P.S. BJR has had a big win. Getting Heimgartner and losing Whatsisname. ( Ah! yes, just remembered Percat.)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: madbugger on September 10, 2021, 07:12:20 AM
As David Reynolds has proven time and time again with multiple teams, contracts are not worth the dunny paper he draped all over Rick Kelly's desk back in the day.  Team owners know that there is no gain in holding a driver to a Contract if he/she does not want to drive for them.

Wherever the chips fall, good luck to all the teams and drivers in 2002.

This is increasingly the time of pay drivers in Supercars, i.e. Daddy's money or an associated Sponsor's money, or even your own money if one runs a company or porno type website.  Some teams absolutely need pay drivers.

Tough luck to the drivers hoping to advance based on talent.

When the music stops in the game of musical chairs, Jack Le Brocq looks like the one left standing in the corner.

Macauley might fall on his sword for the sake of the company and run Super 2. Hazelwood is still a chance, or at least a few wildcards and an endurance ride with MSR or BJR. (Remember that MSR only own a single REC at last announcement, with the second on loan from a Hazelwood supporter.)

There are a couple of other drivers lurking in the background, such as Kurt Kostecki, Chris Pither and Renee Gracie (with family money, sponsor money or personal money too.)

P.S. BJR has had a big win. Getting Heimgartner and losing Whatsisname. ( Ah! yes, just remembered Percat.)

The whole contract thing is a big farce. Teams (Employers) if they sack a player/driver (employee) generally have to pay out the existing contract, but if a player/driver (employee) chooses to leave and go to a competitor, they generally get their way with no compensation going back to their previous employer. Just once I'd like to see an employer dig their heels in and and call to account those that want to break their contract.

Alternatively, if employees want to continue being able to to walk before completing contract then employers should have the option of terminating an employee before contract is finished with no compensation payable.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on September 10, 2021, 08:11:31 AM
Silly Season indeed.

This article suggests multiple 'sources' say Fullwood is a done deal at Tickford:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/09/fullwood-responds-to-talk-of-tickford-done-deal/?fbclid=IwAR3wWApMgNNvik0wHi3M8ncFhAJt3a62ydVSmmBGYRPTpspR84fAkvsOOBM

Percat back to Walkinshaw? I'd be happy with that.



I think Percat is totally ensconced at BJR.

My thoughts too. Heimgartner coming over may have changed that?
Percat has a soft spot for Walkinshaw - and they too him.

Update: Auto Action breaking it
https://autoaction.com.au/2021/09/09/exclusive-percat-quits-brad-jones-racing?fbclid=IwAR16U_9RXfGdasrqQKUdFKCuw2_74z9kwXQiIVG64rfT2BiTBui_VCRLD4Q


I got that well and truly wrong...   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: AlbertM on September 10, 2021, 10:44:30 AM
Thought from left field...

Speaking of broken contracts. Was it a ploy by drivers to make themselves available for the 88 seat?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on September 10, 2021, 04:20:06 PM
Grove made a mistake, should have gave Davey the ass.

Holdsworth has had his chances, needs to stay out of a full time gig and let someone with actual potential fill the seat.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on September 10, 2021, 04:26:48 PM
Grove made a mistake, should have gave Davey the ass.

Holdsworth has had his chances, needs to stay out of a full time gig and let someone with actual potential fill the seat.

Not sure Grove gave anyone the ass.
Sounds like as soon as the Kelly's sold up, Andre didn't want to be there.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: TheArrow on September 10, 2021, 07:43:08 PM
Well he always said he was there for loyalty and when the one you're loyal to is no longer directly associated then why stay?

It's been clear they have been a mid-rear pack team even with the change to Mustangs. A few bright sparks here and there doesn't make them a competitive team.

He needs to go somewhere that will consistently provide him with a competitive car. It seems BJR, WAU and Tickford are the only ones left that can offer that to him. With Percat (allegedly) leaving it opens the door there. Tickford have only confirmed one of its 4 cars, and WAU seems to have a spare seat too.

Any one of those three would be a better place than GR. BJR is naturally at the bottom rung with Tickford and WAU pretty close to each other. I personally would like to see him at either WAU or Tickford.

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Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on September 10, 2021, 08:50:32 PM
Grove made a mistake, should have gave Davey the ass.

Holdsworth has had his chances, needs to stay out of a full time gig and let someone with actual potential fill the seat.

Not sure Grove gave anyone the ass.
Sounds like as soon as the Kelly's sold up, Andre didn't want to be there.

I agree that Davey should have been given the go away, he has shown a lack of loyalty to a lot of teams in the past. He is sometimes fast, but often erratic.

Andre was likely on a low starters type salary at Kelly's and his driving prowess surely entitles him to a bigger salary now.

Grove, on the other hand is establishing a new team, effectively, albeit with a lot of the Kelly staff and equipment.

He doesn't need two highly paid drivers at this stage and seems to agree to the Andre release on good terms.

Andre would be on a good wicket at BJR, as would BJR, particularly when Nick has demonstrated his contract shredding skills, a-la-Reynolds.

Of the two, BJR is a lot better off with Andre as Nick has had time to demonstrate his prowess and has been erratic.

I like Holdworth at Grove.as he is a competent driver and will surely assist the Mentoring of another driver through Super 2 in a Nissan (probably).
If Davey runs true to form, Holdworth might be the lead driver by 2023 anyway with a new Grove trained whizkid in the other seat.

Now that a new Supercars owner has been chosen, effectively the last man standing, the REC restriction may not apply soon anyway.

To sum it up, any team owner that enforces a contracted driver to drive his cars when the Driver does not wish to do so, is asking for team chaos.

P.S. We purchase our contacts at Aldi for under $9 for 24 rolls.




Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: CP on September 11, 2021, 08:43:27 AM
Thought from left field...

Speaking of broken contracts. Was it a ploy by drivers to make themselves available for the 88 seat?


That is an interesting point.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: hsv8fan on September 12, 2021, 02:19:57 PM
As David Reynolds has proven time and time again with multiple teams, contracts are not worth the dunny paper he draped all over Rick Kelly's desk back in the day.  Team owners know that there is no gain in holding a driver to a Contract if he/she does not want to drive for them.

Wherever the chips fall, good luck to all the teams and drivers in 2002.

This is increasingly the time of pay drivers in Supercars, i.e. Daddy's money or an associated Sponsor's money, or even your own money if one runs a company or porno type website.  Some teams absolutely need pay drivers.

Tough luck to the drivers hoping to advance based on talent.

When the music stops in the game of musical chairs, Jack Le Brocq looks like the one left standing in the corner.

Macauley might fall on his sword for the sake of the company and run Super 2. Hazelwood is still a chance, or at least a few wildcards and an endurance ride with MSR or BJR. (Remember that MSR only own a single REC at last announcement, with the second on loan from a Hazelwood supporter.)

There are a couple of other drivers lurking in the background, such as Kurt Kostecki, Chris Pither and Renee Gracie (with family money, sponsor money or personal money too.)

P.S. BJR has had a big win. Getting Heimgartner and losing Whatsisname. ( Ah! yes, just remembered Percat.)

The whole contract thing is a big farce. Teams (Employers) if they sack a player/driver (employee) generally have to pay out the existing contract, but if a player/driver (employee) chooses to leave and go to a competitor, they generally get their way with no compensation going back to their previous employer. Just once I'd like to see an employer dig their heels in and and call to account those that want to break their contract.

Alternatively, if employees want to continue being able to to walk before completing contract then employers should have the option of terminating an employee before contract is finished with no compensation payable.

It will all be in the wording/conditions of exit clauses of the contract 
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Bloopy on September 12, 2021, 02:31:16 PM
Just once I'd like to see an employer dig their heels in and and call to account those that want to break their contract.

But you did, surely. Erebus vs Shane van Gisbergen dragged out from the beginning of 2013 until mid-2014 before it was eventually settled out of court.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on September 13, 2021, 09:37:01 AM
As David Reynolds has proven time and time again with multiple teams, contracts are not worth the dunny paper he draped all over Rick Kelly's desk back in the day.  Team owners know that there is no gain in holding a driver to a Contract if he/she does not want to drive for them.

Wherever the chips fall, good luck to all the teams and drivers in 2002.

This is increasingly the time of pay drivers in Supercars, i.e. Daddy's money or an associated Sponsor's money, or even your own money if one runs a company or porno type website.  Some teams absolutely need pay drivers.

Tough luck to the drivers hoping to advance based on talent.

When the music stops in the game of musical chairs, Jack Le Brocq looks like the one left standing in the corner.

Macauley might fall on his sword for the sake of the company and run Super 2. Hazelwood is still a chance, or at least a few wildcards and an endurance ride with MSR or BJR. (Remember that MSR only own a single REC at last announcement, with the second on loan from a Hazelwood supporter.)

There are a couple of other drivers lurking in the background, such as Kurt Kostecki, Chris Pither and Renee Gracie (with family money, sponsor money or personal money too.)

P.S. BJR has had a big win. Getting Heimgartner and losing Whatsisname. ( Ah! yes, just remembered Percat.)

The whole contract thing is a big farce. Teams (Employers) if they sack a player/driver (employee) generally have to pay out the existing contract, but if a player/driver (employee) chooses to leave and go to a competitor, they generally get their way with no compensation going back to their previous employer. Just once I'd like to see an employer dig their heels in and and call to account those that want to break their contract.

Alternatively, if employees want to continue being able to to walk before completing contract then employers should have the option of terminating an employee before contract is finished with no compensation payable.

It will all be in the wording/conditions of exit clauses of the contract

Or whether there was a contract in the first place...
Brad Jones has done handshake deals even up to as recently as Jason Bright.

Percat formally leaving BJR: Only place up from BJR is WAU or Tickford.
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/percat-announces-shock-bjr-departure/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on September 13, 2021, 05:39:41 PM
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/heimgartner-to-join-bjr-in-2022/

And Heimgartner to take that seat.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Wrighty05 on September 18, 2021, 02:39:13 PM
Mostert and Percat as teammates will be very interesting…
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on September 18, 2021, 03:17:46 PM
Mostert and Percat as teammates will be very interesting…

Came from that Super2 class of 2012. From memory, McLaughlin, Mostert and Percat never got on?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on September 19, 2021, 12:11:40 AM
Mostert and Percat as teammates will be very interesting…
And very strong.  Does Nick bring any sponsors with him wherever he winds up, like R&J Batteries?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on September 20, 2021, 07:57:30 AM
Mostert and Percat as teammates will be very interesting…
And very strong.  Does Nick bring any sponsors with him wherever he winds up, like R&J Batteries?

No idea but Walkinshaw are clearly no where near returning to the benchmark team they once were.

Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on September 20, 2021, 10:38:13 AM
Mostert and Percat as teammates will be very interesting…
And very strong.  Does Nick bring any sponsors with him wherever he winds up, like R&J Batteries?

No idea but Walkinshaw are clearly no where near returning to the benchmark team they once were.

They're the closest they've been since about 2011. Trajectory looking good.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on October 05, 2021, 05:24:23 PM

Did not see this coming.


https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/05/tickford-msr-set-for-shock-2022-driver-swap/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on October 05, 2021, 05:37:13 PM
Mostert and Percat as teammates will be very interesting…
And very strong.  Does Nick bring any sponsors with him wherever he winds up, like R&J Batteries?

No idea but Walkinshaw are clearly no where near returning to the benchmark team they once were.

They're the closest they've been since about 2011. Trajectory looking good.

Good but not great, not sure they have the cash injections the other top class teams have.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on October 05, 2021, 07:32:20 PM

Did not see this coming.


https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/05/tickford-msr-set-for-shock-2022-driver-swap/


I see the possibility of Truck Assist and Boost money involved. Truck Assist seem to have been stuffed about by Tickford and I think there is already involvement by them with MSR or one of their companies.

I don't think Courtney has been confirmed yet  by Boost and would not be surprised to see him out of a full time drive.

Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on October 06, 2021, 06:45:28 PM

Did not see this coming.


https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/05/tickford-msr-set-for-shock-2022-driver-swap/


I see the possibility of Truck Assist and Boost money involved. Truck Assist seem to have been stuffed about by Tickford and I think there is already involvement by them with MSR or one of their companies.

I don't think Courtney has been confirmed yet  by Boost and would not be surprised to see him out of a full time drive.

Theres a fair bit of talk about Stanaway at the moment. Will he get a Boost drive somewhere? Doubt it would be run out of Tickford though  ;D
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 07, 2021, 08:06:22 PM

Did not see this coming.


https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/05/tickford-msr-set-for-shock-2022-driver-swap/


I see the possibility of Truck Assist and Boost money involved. Truck Assist seem to have been stuffed about by Tickford and I think there is already involvement by them with MSR or one of their companies.

I don't think Courtney has been confirmed yet  by Boost and would not be surprised to see him out of a full time drive.

Wanna bet!! :-) ;)
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/courtney-secures-new-multi-year-supercars-deal/?fbclid=IwAR11BFebPZbWUV3sH7A_LpLuLXRUoXEtZiGcLRmLnqBNsOIseKVI1YA-pcs
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on October 07, 2021, 08:55:42 PM

Did not see this coming.


https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/05/tickford-msr-set-for-shock-2022-driver-swap/


I see the possibility of Truck Assist and Boost money involved. Truck Assist seem to have been stuffed about by Tickford and I think there is already involvement by them with MSR or one of their companies.

I don't think Courtney has been confirmed yet  by Boost and would not be surprised to see him out of a full time drive.

Wanna bet!! :-) ;)
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/courtney-secures-new-multi-year-supercars-deal/?fbclid=IwAR11BFebPZbWUV3sH7A_LpLuLXRUoXEtZiGcLRmLnqBNsOIseKVI1YA-pcs

Consider me suitably surprised. It just shows that pay to drive ( or sponsor pays for the drive) trumps talent.

Tough. That is the way of the world of Motorsport.

Maybe Boost has a second team entry for another driver, who shows promise.


PS> I may be doing Courtney a mis service. The announcement is a contract with Tickford NOT Boost. (after reading several versions).



Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on October 08, 2021, 01:35:57 AM
PS> I may be doing Courtney a mis service. The announcement is a contract with Tickford NOT Boost. (after reading several versions).
Interesting how the article skirted the issue of Boost being involved in the future.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on October 08, 2021, 10:37:32 AM
Courtney still has a place on the grid providing he actually mentors his team mates, I’d rather see him their then other older drivers who offer 2/5s of **** all to the younger generation
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 08, 2021, 02:09:55 PM

Did not see this coming.


https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/05/tickford-msr-set-for-shock-2022-driver-swap/


I see the possibility of Truck Assist and Boost money involved. Truck Assist seem to have been stuffed about by Tickford and I think there is already involvement by them with MSR or one of their companies.

I don't think Courtney has been confirmed yet  by Boost and would not be surprised to see him out of a full time drive.

Wanna bet!! :-) ;)
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/courtney-secures-new-multi-year-supercars-deal/?fbclid=IwAR11BFebPZbWUV3sH7A_LpLuLXRUoXEtZiGcLRmLnqBNsOIseKVI1YA-pcs

Consider me suitably surprised. It just shows that pay to drive ( or sponsor pays for the drive) trumps talent.

Tough. That is the way of the world of Motorsport.

Maybe Boost has a second team entry for another driver, who shows promise.


PS> I may be doing Courtney a mis service. The announcement is a contract with Tickford NOT Boost. (after reading several versions).

Adderton has been quoted saying that the deal has been made with Boost unconfirmed with any team next year.
There's either an assumption by Tickford, or looking for stability with the other two seats looking very different.

Not a bad move to have some consistency heading into Gen3.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 11, 2021, 06:16:32 PM
Jake confirmed at Tickford! https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/11/edwards-kostecki-has-front-running-potential/?fbclid=IwAR00ISQTXalLTwEYKn0kEcAPzx5pKGOHM_gRYsZZnYH6f3mbVcH_t1jjeV4
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 13, 2021, 03:54:55 PM
Anybody else thinking Cam might have gone to the dark side and re-joined his old mate Chaz? Nothing from WAU on 2nd driver and nothing from Tickford or Waters either.....what gives? Feeling a bit nervous.....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on October 13, 2021, 05:42:45 PM
Anybody else thinking Cam might have gone to the dark side and re-joined his old mate Chaz? Nothing from WAU on 2nd driver and nothing from Tickford or Waters either.....what gives? Feeling a bit nervous.....
It’s possible. WAU (or HRT as it was back then) almost had a Monster energy deal. It could finally happen?

That could mean Percat heading to Prodrive then?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 13, 2021, 05:48:37 PM
I really hope not- it's lopsided enough as it is.....GM have the best team now, the best aero package and pretty much all the best drivers....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on October 13, 2021, 10:07:16 PM
Thought Cam signed on beyond 2021 a long time ago
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 13, 2021, 11:57:49 PM
I'd say Cam is safe:
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/waters-fairly-safe-at-tickford-amid-contract-clause/

However, as you say, why not make it official?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 14, 2021, 06:46:39 AM
I'd say Cam is safe:
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/waters-fairly-safe-at-tickford-amid-contract-clause/

However, as you say, why not make it official?

And why no confirmation of the 2nd WAU seat either....??  :-( :(
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on October 14, 2021, 11:51:26 AM
I'd say Cam is safe:
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/waters-fairly-safe-at-tickford-amid-contract-clause/

However, as you say, why not make it official?
Wasn’t Percat safe at BJR as well  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on October 14, 2021, 02:06:41 PM
I'd say Cam is safe:
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/waters-fairly-safe-at-tickford-amid-contract-clause/

However, as you say, why not make it official?

And why no confirmation of the 2nd WAU seat either....??  :-( :(

Free publicity
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on October 14, 2021, 02:52:42 PM
Could COKE be changing their Monster advertising dollars to a team that takes Pither?

It also occurs to me that COKE/Monster's biggest sales area might be Sydney area and there is only one Team in Sydney area?


Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 14, 2021, 03:05:41 PM
Could COKE be changing their Monster advertising dollars to a team that takes Pither?

It also occurs to me that COKE/Monster's biggest sales area might be Sydney area and there is only one Team in Sydney area?

I think the Coke sponsorship with Pither comes from the Australian supplier, not Coke directly.
Whereas the Monster money (I'd assume) comes from Monster. Two different books.

There was a bit of debacle about this when Pither first started with Team Sydney... from memory I don't think Coke even knew they were sponsoring a car?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on October 14, 2021, 03:37:36 PM
Could COKE be changing their Monster advertising dollars to a team that takes Pither?

It also occurs to me that COKE/Monster's biggest sales area might be Sydney area and there is only one Team in Sydney area?

But that team is currently an also ran so I doubt very much the answer to your question would be in the positive.
Monster get plenty of air time where they are now.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on October 14, 2021, 06:48:45 PM
Could COKE be changing their Monster advertising dollars to a team that takes Pither?

It also occurs to me that COKE/Monster's biggest sales area might be Sydney area and there is only one Team in Sydney area?

But that team is currently an also ran so I doubt very much the answer to your question would be in the positive.
Monster get plenty of air time where they are now.

888 Machinery. Dr Slater back. new mechanics and a decent pile of sponsor money would move Team Sydney up the grid, particularly with a decent driver.

Waters is highly regarded by some people, but he is probably driving the best car in the field.

On the other hand, maybe COKE just want to spend less than Tickford charge. There are new owners this year.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-16/coca-cola-amatil-sale-to-europe-shareholder-vote/100071594


All conjecture from pretty well all of us here. ;D

Personally, I would like to see the Monster money go to MSR, or maybe Erebus where they might get 2 cars, with excellent current drivers, for what Tickford charge for one.

Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: kennymiesta on October 14, 2021, 07:13:59 PM
Could COKE be changing their Monster advertising dollars to a team that takes Pither?
Not sure that Coke make Monster. They make Mother don't they?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on October 14, 2021, 09:13:21 PM
Could COKE be changing their Monster advertising dollars to a team that takes Pither?
Not sure that Coke make Monster. They make Mother don't they?

https://www.ccamatil.com/au/Our-beverages/Monster-Energy
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 15, 2021, 02:48:45 PM
MSR starting fresh next year with Goddard also out:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/15/goddard-confirms-end-of-year-msr-departure/

Both super-lite drivers fly the coup.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: kennymiesta on October 15, 2021, 06:50:38 PM
Could COKE be changing their Monster advertising dollars to a team that takes Pither?
Not sure that Coke make Monster. They make Mother don't they?

https://www.ccamatil.com/au/Our-beverages/Monster-Energy
Well i'll be damned. I've learnt something today.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on October 20, 2021, 09:54:53 AM
Mostert and Percat as teammates will be very interesting…
And very strong.  Does Nick bring any sponsors with him wherever he winds up, like R&J Batteries?
Well, that answers my question.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/rj-batteries-to-remain-with-bjr-in-2022/

Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 20, 2021, 11:30:03 AM
G
Cauchi to Team Grove- Major pick up!!

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/20/cauchi-to-succeed-kelly-as-kgr-team-principal/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 20, 2021, 01:32:29 PM
That's big news. Strengthens one team, weakens the other.

Good on Cauchi, likely wanted to take the reigns for the next challenge but there's no way up at 888 with J Dane, Whincup, Dutto etc.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 20, 2021, 01:47:38 PM
Can't see it hurting T8 too much, if at all......will certainly add to Grove though...and can you imagine the discussions that will take place between Todd making the stuff in engineering and Cauchi in the race shop....."Make me this.... and that..." haha!!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 20, 2021, 01:55:49 PM
Can't see it hurting T8 too much, if at all......will certainly add to Grove though...and can you imagine the discussions that will take place between Todd making the stuff in engineering and Cauchi in the race shop....."Make me this.... and that..." haha!!

Dunno about that REM. Both lead engineers from 88 and 97 will be out the door end of this year. There's going to be a cross-over of sorts IMO, we remember it took Cauchi a few rounds to gel with J-Dub.
Add to that McPherson left end of last year, big shift happening at 888.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on October 20, 2021, 03:22:44 PM
So is Cauchi on gardening leave now?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on October 20, 2021, 05:51:25 PM
So is Cauchi on gardening leave now?

After Bathurst apparently...  :)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on October 20, 2021, 07:00:22 PM
888 is rather crowded with talent at the top.

Both Grant McPherson and , now, David Cauchi leave with Roland Dane blessing as their new positions were promotions not available at 888, and both have done the right thing by giving plenty of notice.

Some gardening leave is normal in the motorsport world, but I do wonder if gardening leave would have been required if the move was to a customer team of 888.

It is the last year of the current models anyway and the cars are pretty well in the form they will race in 2022.

With Gen 3 on the way in whatever form it takes, David will do well and hopefully Grant will too when the WAU part owners get out of his way.

888 should be proud that their training regime makes their staff a valuable asset to any team that later acquires their services.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 21, 2021, 12:43:01 AM
Hazelwood back to Matt Stone:
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/matt-stone-racing-confirms-hazelwood-reunion/

They always gelled well in Super2. Wouldn't mind seeing them hit their straps together again.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Roadways6 on October 22, 2021, 07:08:29 PM
They didn’t gel in the main game in 2018 or 19 though….

Hazelwood’s had his go, get some new blood into MSR and see what they can do
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on October 23, 2021, 09:38:04 AM
Hazelwood back to Matt Stone:
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/matt-stone-racing-confirms-hazelwood-reunion/

They always gelled well in Super2. Wouldn't mind seeing them hit their straps together again.
I like the little guy.  Always have.  Have him on my V8 Central Fantasy League team right now and hope he knocks them out of the park this next round during the four night races.  I need the damn points.

Wish the bloke the best.

On a sidebar.... feel free to sign up for the 2022 V8 Central Fantasy League when the times comes next Spring.. 

But if you are chicken, and are worried about trading punches with some of the heaviest hitters in fantasy racing, we understand.   8)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 25, 2021, 07:48:17 AM
Great news- Cam is back! Tickford will be very strong next year

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/25/tickford-eyeing-a-lot-of-success-with-waters/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on October 25, 2021, 11:38:41 AM
Great news- Cam is back! Tickford will be very strong next year

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/25/tickford-eyeing-a-lot-of-success-with-waters/
Interesting lineage here, too.  Remember when FPR/PRA/Tickford let David Reynolds go after he was oh so close to a title?  They replaced him with Cam and just as important - Monster $$$.  My, what a fork in the road for both drivers as it has played out into these modern times.

Glad you are back on board with us, REM.  We need you here, mate.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 25, 2021, 12:33:55 PM
Great news- Cam is back! Tickford will be very strong next year

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/25/tickford-eyeing-a-lot-of-success-with-waters/

It's a bloody good line up that's for sure!

I think this firms up Percat to WAU and Fullwood to BJR.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on October 25, 2021, 01:48:07 PM
Tony Quinn has taken over Willowbank.
Could see some changes.


https://autoaction.com.au/2021/10/25/quinn-takes-over-queensland-raceway?fbclid=IwAR0W83e6b4h9tvLipv7XQkh-Qkudtku7VRjvGP5mbGUROcKWbuSpImKkh4Y
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on October 25, 2021, 03:10:26 PM
Busy day today.
Another announcement.

Andrew Edwards  (BJR) to 888 for SVG.

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/veteran-bjr-engineer-moves-to-triple-eight-for-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1d3ZH7hG6kv-MHfxaJWexotaSvpiukWwlX0n-ed3O7_5i-FUQjNrrMQzs
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 25, 2021, 03:14:18 PM
Great news- Cam is back! Tickford will be very strong next year

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/25/tickford-eyeing-a-lot-of-success-with-waters/
Interesting lineage here, too.  Remember when FPR/PRA/Tickford let David Reynolds go after he was oh so close to a title?  They replaced him with Cam and just as important - Monster $$$.  My, what a fork in the road for both drivers as it has played out into these modern times.

Glad you are back on board with us, REM.  We need you here, mate.

LG might dispute this, but sometimes........I don't have much to say!! ;)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 25, 2021, 04:05:51 PM
Tony Quinn has taken over Willowbank.
Could see some changes.


https://autoaction.com.au/2021/10/25/quinn-takes-over-queensland-raceway?fbclid=IwAR0W83e6b4h9tvLipv7XQkh-Qkudtku7VRjvGP5mbGUROcKWbuSpImKkh4Y

We might see it back on the Supercars calendar now.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on October 26, 2021, 01:44:20 AM
Kostecki gets SP Tools on the side for SMP2.
I must say, this and the Mobil sponsorship he ran earlier in the year are contenders for livery or the year. They look far more Walkinshaw than the 2 and 25.

(https://dscxx9mer61ho.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/27-KK-Front-SP-TOOLS-WEB-1-1802x1200.jpg)
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/fresh-look-for-kosteckis-wau-wildcard-return-in-sydney/

I wonder if this is a driver and sponsor hint for the second WAU seat in 2022.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 26, 2021, 06:48:06 AM
Fullwood to BJR....

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/26/fullwood-to-join-brad-jones-racing-in-2022/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Kytabu on October 26, 2021, 09:58:16 AM
So with Fullwood confirmed, that leaves WAU #2, BJR #4 and #21, Grove #7 and MSR #34 as yet to be confirmed seats?

You would assume Percat would be taking the WAU seat; moving to MSR seems unlikely and Grove have Payne lined up if he can get the Superlicence.

Jones and Smith seem confident that they will be on the grid in 2022, but Coke wants to get Pither in a seat. Pither has also been linked to the MSR seat along with Le Brocq and Golding. If Coke took their money to MSR with Pither, where would that leave Jones and BJR sponsor-wise? Would they drop Jones to bring Le Brocq in with Truck Assist? Or Pither to BJR and Le Brocq to MSR?

The #7 could also become available if Payne can't get dispensation for the Superlicence.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 26, 2021, 10:17:47 AM
Kostecki gets SP Tools on the side for SMP2.
I must say, this and the Mobil sponsorship he ran earlier in the year are contenders for livery or the year. They look far more Walkinshaw than the 2 and 25.


I wonder if this is a driver and sponsor hint for the second WAU seat in 2022.

I think that seat still favours Percat. Don't think he would neg on his 'done deal' with BJR to go backwards? Only seats available are KGR and MSR - which would actually suit Kurt well.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Kytabu on October 26, 2021, 06:44:07 PM
Percat confirmed in the #2. A seat he probably expected to get into about six years ago.
https://www.walkinshawandrettiunited.com.au/media/story/2895/

Also, articles about Le Brocq being signed by MSR went up on Speedcafe and Motorsport.com went up at 6pm but have since been removed.

A picture of the 2022 grid then:

Walkinshaw Andretti United
2. Nick Percat
25. Chaz Mostert

Blanchard Racing Team
3. Tim Slade

Brad Jones Racing
4. Jack Smith*
8. Andre Heimgartner
14. Bryce Fullwood
21. Macauley Jones*

Tickford Racing
5. James Courtney
6. Cameron Waters
55. Thomas Randle
56. Jake Kostecki

Grove Racing
7. Matthew Payne*
26. David Reynolds

Erebus Motorsport
9. Will Brown
99. Brodie Kostecki

Dick Johnson Racing
11. Anton de Pasquale
17. Will Davison

Team 18
18. Mark Winterbottom
20. Scott Pye

Team Sydney
19. Fabian Coulthard
22. Garry Jacobson

Matt Stone Racing
34. Jack Le Brocq
35. Todd Hazelwood

Triple Eight Race Engineering
88. Broc Feeney
97. Shane van Gisbergen
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 26, 2021, 07:26:48 PM
Got to say, WAU and Tickford have overall the strongest line-ups.
Throw the #97 and #11 in there and it should be a cracking season.

Don't mind the Erebus boys with a year under their belt too.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on October 27, 2021, 07:15:01 AM
Got to say, WAU and Tickford have overall the strongest line-ups.
Throw the #97 and #11 in there and it should be a cracking season.

Don't mind the Erebus boys with a year under their belt too.

so you don't rate Davo and ADP much then? I tend to think they are stronger than the WAU line up....

Grove staying with Ford which is great news!

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/27/grove-affirms-supercars-teams-ford-stance/?fbclid=IwAR1Emy0Y-nIi4FbbPMGRRUhhYFuDwBpVHP2dZ4UBWNROUiVJ0grfM8G9a1o
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on October 27, 2021, 10:35:41 AM
Got to say, WAU and Tickford have overall the strongest line-ups.
Throw the #97 and #11 in there and it should be a cracking season.

Don't mind the Erebus boys with a year under their belt too.

so you don't rate Davo and ADP much then? I tend to think they are stronger than the WAU line up....

Grove staying with Ford which is great news!

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/10/27/grove-affirms-supercars-teams-ford-stance/?fbclid=IwAR1Emy0Y-nIi4FbbPMGRRUhhYFuDwBpVHP2dZ4UBWNROUiVJ0grfM8G9a1o

I've got ADP there, Davo on the slow down hill. Bloody consistent, but does he have the edge to knock off a firey Chaz or Cam for the lead?



And Le Broq signs on at MSR:
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/le-brocq-signs-multi-year-matt-stone-racing-deal/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on October 28, 2021, 02:40:04 PM
BJR has announced two of it's three RECS.

Macauley may just have to step out of a full time drive for 2022.

BJR is still a business and there are drivers after a seat that bring substantial sponsorship dollars and Brad has to pay the bills and likes a little left over for himself.

I was under the impression that the customer Smith entry driver was already confirmed by his dad.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on November 01, 2021, 03:54:54 PM
Got to say, WAU and Tickford have overall the strongest line-ups.
Throw the #97 and #11 in there and it should be a cracking season.

Don't mind the Erebus boys with a year under their belt too.

so you don't rate Davo and ADP much then? I tend to think they are stronger than the WAU line up....


Between us we could be writers for Speedcafe, REM:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/01/poll-which-2022-supercars-driver-line-up-is-strongest/

DJR, closely followed by WAU.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on November 01, 2021, 05:26:01 PM
Got to say, WAU and Tickford have overall the strongest line-ups.
Throw the #97 and #11 in there and it should be a cracking season.

Don't mind the Erebus boys with a year under their belt too.

so you don't rate Davo and ADP much then? I tend to think they are stronger than the WAU line up....


Between us we could be writers for Speedcafe, REM:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/01/poll-which-2022-supercars-driver-line-up-is-strongest/

DJR, closely followed by WAU.

They read this forum for sure.... ;)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on November 01, 2021, 11:38:57 PM
Amazing how few votes that Tickford drivers got. Erebus rookies getting close to 5 times as many.

Not a lot of love out there for Waters and Courtney. :(

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/01/poll-which-2022-supercars-driver-line-up-is-strongest/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on November 02, 2021, 07:12:36 AM
Amazing how few votes that Tickford drivers got. Erebus rookies getting close to 5 times as many.

Not a lot of love out there for Waters and Courtney. :(

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/01/poll-which-2022-supercars-driver-line-up-is-strongest/

Look at the respective weekends for each teams for answers! ;) I reckon Waters and Randle as a paring would be very strong....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on November 02, 2021, 10:57:22 PM
Amazing how few votes that Tickford drivers got. Erebus rookies getting close to 5 times as many.

Not a lot of love out there for Waters and Courtney. :(

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/01/poll-which-2022-supercars-driver-line-up-is-strongest/

Triple 8 and Shell will be the 2 to beat again.

Lack of votes for Tickford is due to losing a large chunk of their fan base that jumped on the Penske/Scotty bandwagon, JC is not a Ford fan favourite due to deserting the Blue oval for a dog box red Commodore and finally Tickford have a history of inconsistent speed and results, they come out hard and fast, lose it then come home strong or reliability issues appear each season.

Biggest surprise is the votes for Chaz/Percat, WAU have similar issues to Tickford , fans jumped to Triple 8, Percat is not really a fan favourite for many but their speed, results and reliability have not been inconsistent, it been consistently slow and pathetic.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on November 16, 2021, 02:55:22 PM

Maybe I am missing something, but BJR seems tardy with announcing it's 2022 lineup, or whether they will run 3 or 4 cars.

The current Coca Cola car is apparently running, in 2021, with sponsorship from Pither's connections, but the sponsoring company has now been sold and is already committed to a full car with Tickford for 2022. There are also 2021 subsidiary sponsorships on other cars with several teams.

Could sponsor negotiations be the cause of the delay and could those potential sponsors require their own driver replacing Macauley.
Would sponsored buy-a-drive bead daddy's wallet?


Speaking of Daddy's wallet, the SCT Logistics REC is not owned by Brad Jones Racing.
Is it possibly on the move for 2022. Someone would have a spare Commodore?
SCT is headquartered in Brisbane and MSR is nearby and they want to run a third car.

(It is interesting that Wall, a significant Racecar preparer is now driving for SCT at Bathurst 2021.)


   
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on November 16, 2021, 06:15:19 PM

Maybe I am missing something, but BJR seems tardy with announcing it's 2022 lineup, or whether they will run 3 or 4 cars.

The current Coca Cola car is apparently running, in 2021, with sponsorship from Pither's connections, but the sponsoring company has now been sold and is already committed to a full car with Tickford for 2022. There are also 2021 subsidiary sponsorships on other cars with several teams.

Could sponsor negotiations be the cause of the delay and could those potential sponsors require their own driver replacing Macauley.
Would sponsored buy-a-drive bead daddy's wallet?


Speaking of Daddy's wallet, the SCT Logistics REC is not owned by Brad Jones Racing.
Is it possibly on the move for 2022. Someone would have a spare Commodore?
SCT is headquartered in Brisbane and MSR is nearby and they want to run a third car.

(It is interesting that Wall, a significant Racecar preparer is now driving for SCT at Bathurst 2021.)

I don’t support “Daddy’s wallet over driver talent” on the grid but Jones would be working him pretty hard. BJR will run 4 cars but whether any of them are consistent or not is probably a bigger unknown.

I like the MSR team but they need to get a couple of drivers in their cars today that are there for the long road, until then they’ll be grid fillers at best. A third car would send them further backwards in my opinion. Perhaps his old man or uncle can help guide them into a championship winning outfit.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: hsv8fan on November 17, 2021, 08:30:40 PM

Maybe I am missing something, but BJR seems tardy with announcing it's 2022 lineup, or whether they will run 3 or 4 cars.

The current Coca Cola car is apparently running, in 2021, with sponsorship from Pither's connections, but the sponsoring company has now been sold and is already committed to a full car with Tickford for 2022. There are also 2021 subsidiary sponsorships on other cars with several teams.

Could sponsor negotiations be the cause of the delay and could those potential sponsors require their own driver replacing Macauley.
Would sponsored buy-a-drive bead daddy's wallet?


Speaking of Daddy's wallet, the SCT Logistics REC is not owned by Brad Jones Racing.
Is it possibly on the move for 2022. Someone would have a spare Commodore?
SCT is headquartered in Brisbane and MSR is nearby and they want to run a third car.

(It is interesting that Wall, a significant Racecar preparer is now driving for SCT at Bathurst 2021.)

I don’t support “Daddy’s wallet over driver talent” on the grid but Jones would be working him pretty hard. BJR will run 4 cars but whether any of them are consistent or not is probably a bigger unknown.

I like the MSR team but they need to get a couple of drivers in their cars today that are there for the long road, until then they’ll be grid fillers at best. A third car would send them further backwards in my opinion. Perhaps his old man or uncle can help guide them into a championship winning outfit.

I think the previous drivers would have been there for the long haul if not for being ousted. I never could work out why Todd wasn't retained but luckily he has somewhere that maybe recognised the rror of their ways and given him a lifeline.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on November 24, 2021, 04:17:38 PM
...
I think the previous drivers would have been there for the long haul if not for being ousted. I never could work out why Todd wasn't retained but luckily he has somewhere that maybe recognised the rror of their ways and given him a lifeline.

When a driver moves from one team to another, there is always specuation on whether the were pushed or moved on of their own volition.

There is no indication that anyone was pushed from BJR in any official comment from BJR or the respective drivers, as far as I recall.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on November 24, 2021, 04:29:56 PM

Maybe I am missing something, but BJR seems tardy with announcing it's 2022 lineup, or whether they will run 3 or 4 cars.

The current Coca Cola car is apparently running, in 2021, with sponsorship from Pither's connections, but the sponsoring company has now been sold and is already committed to a full car with Tickford for 2022. There are also 2021 subsidiary sponsorships on other cars with several teams.

Could sponsor negotiations be the cause of the delay and could those potential sponsors require their own driver replacing Macauley.
Would sponsored buy-a-drive bead daddy's wallet?

Macauley confirmed:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/24/jones-confirmed-for-2022-supercars-seat-amid-progress/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: hsv8fan on November 24, 2021, 07:52:11 PM
...
I think the previous drivers would have been there for the long haul if not for being ousted. I never could work out why Todd wasn't retained but luckily he has somewhere that maybe recognised the rror of their ways and given him a lifeline.

When a driver moves from one team to another, there is always specuation on whether the were pushed or moved on of their own volition.

There is no indication that anyone was pushed from BJR in any official comment from BJR or the respective drivers, as far as I recall.



The reference is to Todd's previous tenure at MSR.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on November 25, 2021, 12:44:50 PM

Maybe I am missing something, but BJR seems tardy with announcing it's 2022 lineup, or whether they will run 3 or 4 cars.

The current Coca Cola car is apparently running, in 2021, with sponsorship from Pither's connections, but the sponsoring company has now been sold and is already committed to a full car with Tickford for 2022. There are also 2021 subsidiary sponsorships on other cars with several teams.

Could sponsor negotiations be the cause of the delay and could those potential sponsors require their own driver replacing Macauley.
Would sponsored buy-a-drive bead daddy's wallet?

Macauley confirmed:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/24/jones-confirmed-for-2022-supercars-seat-amid-progress/

And now Smith:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/11/25/smith-excited-for-sixth-season-with-bjr/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Kytabu on November 26, 2021, 09:36:38 AM
So that just leaves the #7 to be filled. Payne was impressive in his first Super2 outing (he even emulated McLaughlin by stalling on his first front row start); if he goes well at Bathurst will he get dispensation for a Super Licence? If not, would Grove be better off going for a Caruso or a Holdsworth given that it would probably only be a one-year deal before Payne comes in for 2023?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on November 26, 2021, 10:34:00 PM
So that just leaves the #7 to be filled. Payne was impressive in his first Super2 outing (he even emulated McLaughlin by stalling on his first front row start); if he goes well at Bathurst will he get dispensation for a Super Licence? If not, would Grove be better off going for a Caruso or a Holdsworth given that it would probably only be a one-year deal before Payne comes in for 2023?

Not if they want to be genuine contenders
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: TheArrow on December 03, 2021, 10:44:15 AM
Supercars posted separate photos of the Camaro and the Mustang.

Todd Hazelwood only commented on the Mustang post.

MSR to Ford confirmed?

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Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on December 03, 2021, 09:49:18 PM
i like that Will Brown will be sponsored by Boost next year in a 2 car Boost Erebus team.

Feeney won't need Boost now he is going to Red Bull/Ampol.

I wonder if Courtney will be ditched.

further, I would not be surprised to find Nash Morris in a Boost Super 2 as part of the Erebus Academy.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on December 16, 2021, 06:21:56 PM
Payne out, Grove looking for a driver...

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/grove-delays-paynes-supercars-graduation/?fbclid=IwAR1H5S8Rkq7pb18BCQRX2yq5H9m0nsl3KzFh8ABC8bg0EyNonDAodFf_Rpc
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on December 16, 2021, 06:53:53 PM
i like that Will Brown will be sponsored by Boost next year in a 2 car Boost Erebus team.

Feeney won't need Boost now he is going to Red Bull/Ampol.

I wonder if Courtney will be ditched.

further, I would not be surprised to find Nash Morris in a Boost Super 2 as part of the Erebus Academy.



Courtney won't be ditched. He will be sponsored by Boost for the rest of his Supercars career.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on December 16, 2021, 07:12:32 PM
i like that Will Brown will be sponsored by Boost next year in a 2 car Boost Erebus team.

Feeney won't need Boost now he is going to Red Bull/Ampol.

I wonder if Courtney will be ditched.

further, I would not be surprised to find Nash Morris in a Boost Super 2 as part of the Erebus Academy.



Courtney won't be ditched. He will be sponsored by Boost for the rest of his Supercars career.

That's great news for Courtney for 2022. I wonder if he will be part of team Boost Sydney, if it happens, in 2023. He would make an experienced mentor and enduro driver.

Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on December 16, 2021, 08:14:35 PM
i like that Will Brown will be sponsored by Boost next year in a 2 car Boost Erebus team.

Feeney won't need Boost now he is going to Red Bull/Ampol.

I wonder if Courtney will be ditched.

further, I would not be surprised to find Nash Morris in a Boost Super 2 as part of the Erebus Academy.

That's great news for Courtney for 2022. I wonder if he will be part of team Boost Sydney, if it happens, in 2023. He would make an experienced mentor and enduro driver.



Courtney won't be ditched. He will be sponsored by Boost for the rest of his Supercars career.

Pretty sure that JC is a now a proper Tickford driver......Boost can come and go if they wish, but Courtney has a lengthy contract with Tickford.....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on December 16, 2021, 10:22:58 PM
i like that Will Brown will be sponsored by Boost next year in a 2 car Boost Erebus team.

Erebus have done well securing sponsors through getting results.
First, Penrite was only backing one car until results came, expanded to two cars. Now Boost have done the same. Love them or hate them, their form does the talking.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on December 17, 2021, 08:36:44 AM
Lee to Grove for '22.


https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/lee-holdsworth-scores-full-time-supercars-return/?fbclid=IwAR1OSj9XJFmhzbXCg5eHpKEnsU6c-pf01uuNDX54SAWgTaRmI_kgwZDjh08
Title: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on December 17, 2021, 08:43:51 AM
WOW! What was it that Lee was saying? Something along the lines, of 'I'd rather take home a Bathurst win than drive an average car for the year.' Either way, good on him.
First time since 2010 to have both defending Bathurst Champs on the grid for a full season!

Now let's see what Reynolds really has. If Lee tops him next season, that could end him.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on December 17, 2021, 11:00:17 AM
IMHO, Lee was the best of the Tickford drivers, but the three who stayed on for 2021 all had sponsors money to continue the gig.

Again, IMHO, Lee would have been a far better choice for the 2nd seat at WAU for 2022.

Congratulations to Lee. May he enjoy being the number one driver at Grove.

I wonder if his car is also to be Penrite sponsored or was Lee just using an oversize Penrite jacket for the publicity pics?

Is Ned going to BJR?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on December 18, 2021, 07:10:18 AM
IMHO, Lee was the best of the Tickford drivers, but the three who stayed on for 2021 all had sponsors money to continue the gig.

Again, IMHO, Lee would have been a far better choice for the 2nd seat at WAU for 2022.

Congratulations to Lee. May he enjoy being the number one driver at Grove.

I wonder if his car is also to be Penrite sponsored or was Lee just using an oversize Penrite jacket for the publicity pics?

Is Ned going to BJR?

Better than last seasons runner up! That's a big call!! Well done to Lee.....hope Grove lifts and he surprises  people....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on December 18, 2021, 07:57:59 AM
IMHO, Lee was the best of the Tickford drivers, but the three who stayed on for 2021 all had sponsors money to continue the gig.

Again, IMHO, Lee would have been a far better choice for the 2nd seat at WAU for 2022.

Congratulations to Lee. May he enjoy being the number one driver at Grove.

I wonder if his car is also to be Penrite sponsored or was Lee just using an oversize Penrite jacket for the publicity pics?

Is Ned going to BJR?

Better than last seasons runner up! That's a big call!! Well done to Lee.....hope Grove lifts and he surprises  people....

Lee’s best chance at being competitive next year was to stay put with Chaz. This is not the first time a co driver has looked like a superstar driving someone else’s fast car fast. Luckily for Grove it’s only a year.

From memory at Tickford he was on par with Daveys results at Erebus. Both looked ordinary on track and were lucky that others had bad seasons. Grove is in for a tough debut season I reckon.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on December 18, 2021, 08:21:34 AM
Agreed Troy- it was only 2019 that all the Reds on socials were complaining that "even Lee H being quick" was proof that the Stang was too good.....funny to see them talking him up this year.....he was certainly more deserving than JLB....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on December 18, 2021, 09:53:53 AM
Allegedly Waters was the best placed loser in 2020, but Supercars website has wiped all years before 2021.

IMHO REM, the Tickford Fords have been the best over the last couple of years, or at least the favoured child's car. :D

But the 2022 race off between Reynolds and Holdsworth for a single available Grove 2023 seat should be interesting. :)

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/12/18/groves-keen-on-healthy-competition-between-reynolds-holdsworth/
Title: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on December 27, 2021, 11:28:48 AM
Pretty funny one liner from Percat:

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It is a lot different to when it was JC and Garth, Holden Racing Team, I guess trying to be king dick between the two of them
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/12/27/percat-wau-culture-has-changed-for-the-better-since-hrt-days/

I'd say Garth was the king, but JC swung harder, if you know what I mean 8).





So if I'm reading this right:
https://au.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/sponsorship-shake-up-supercars-teams/7073988/

888: Lose Supercheap, gain Vodafone.
WAU: Lose Appliances Online and Middy’s, gain Supercheap and likely major Optus sponsorship for Chaz. Percat to run Truck Assist colours.
Courtney: Lose Boost, gain Appliances Online.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: brighty08 on January 06, 2022, 09:34:22 PM
Is there any momentum regarding MSR attaining a third license for Goddard, who without a doubt, was one of the standout young guns in 2021?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on January 07, 2022, 08:57:16 AM
If MSR do manage to get a third License, then I would be very surprised to see Goddard driving it, based on Goddard's comments when he (or his team) decided not to accept the deal with MSR.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: SetonFan on January 08, 2022, 01:10:14 AM
Grove would have been better off giving Goddard a chance rather than Holdsworth
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: brighty08 on January 08, 2022, 09:30:05 PM
I find it incredible that there is obvious talent in Goddard then somehow Jack Smith lands a ride.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on January 08, 2022, 09:53:09 PM
I find it incredible that there is obvious talent in Goddard then somehow Jack Smith lands a ride.
and previous posts.


1. I don't see the obvious talent with Goddard and he is apparently hampered by his personal team decisions, failing to renew with MSR as an example.

2.Any suggestion that Goddard should have had the vacant seat at Grove is not plausible. Grove need a level head driver for 2023 as a team mate when they promote their favoured newcomer. Reynolds is not only erratic, but he has consistently shown a selfish, non-team player attitude and is probably only at Grove due to the inherited second year of a deal with Todd Kelly and the obvious glee at Erubus when Reynolds walked away from his 10 year contract,
 just as he has broken contracts with previous teams. Betty was apparently happy to see him go.

3. Smith is driving for a family operation. The whole point of their investment is to provide a seat for Jack. I do, however understand that there is a timeline imposed by Daddy for both Jack and his brother overseas. Realistically, why would daddy replace his son, who came 21st, with someone else's son who came only 20th, a mere 1 place better..

Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on January 13, 2022, 07:35:16 AM
Team Sydney sold.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/13/deal-done-team-sydney-sold-renamed-premiair-racing/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on January 13, 2022, 09:23:29 AM
Team Sydney sold.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/13/deal-done-team-sydney-sold-renamed-premiair-racing/

Unknown to Fabs... :o
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Skip on January 13, 2022, 10:50:00 AM
Is Chaz still looking for a codriver?
Wau are recruiting big time in the engineering department.
 I wonder of the team previously known as techno will still be the tail end team, or if we’ll see an improvement straight out of the box. So many questions!!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on January 13, 2022, 11:23:31 AM
Now that Team Sydney is no longer team Sydney and is on the move, I wonder what happens with all the past and future incentives offered by Sydney, NSW and ARDC, etc.?

Seriously, with a decent budget and 888 support, PremiAir racing might punch out a few good results this year, Fabian Coulthard is still a very capable top five-ish driver given the right car.

Peter Xiberras is a successful competitor in his previous efforts and is a Top Fuel Drag Racing Champion. Maybe he will co-drive a relatively underpowered Commodore.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/06/14/xiberras-in-record-breaking-triumph-at-winternationals/

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Peter Xiberras and the PremiAir Racing team have won the Gulf Western Oils Winternationals and the 400 Thunder Top Fuel championship in record-breaking fashion.

Xiberras beat Phil Lamattina in the final at Willowbank Raceway, having completed the fastest 1000-foot pass in Australian history earlier in the day.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on January 14, 2022, 09:52:45 AM
Glad to see the back of Jono. He clearly had no interest in improving his team these last few years.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on January 15, 2022, 10:48:01 AM
Fabs ain't safe:
https://au.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/pither-linked-supercars-return/7265931/

Pither looking at Team Sydney (or whatever they're called) with sponsorship from Coke.
Does this mean Macauley Jones will have the carpet pulled from under him?
Goddard also in the picture.

Fabs to co-drive?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on January 15, 2022, 01:44:30 PM
Glad to see the back of Jono. He clearly had no interest in improving his team these last few years.

I disagree. Jono, just like most people could not spend money that was not available. By the end he had only one car and no stable base and staff. he has done the right thing by selling the remaining assets.

It is said that the way to make a small fortune out of Motor Racing is to start with a large fortune.

Most of the teams ahead of Team Sydney have wealthy owners or owners backed by financially well off family businesses. Some owner syndicates would be in the collective $ billion class, if not individually.

When Jono had decent $ backing, the team did well, including Bathurst. Competitive costs have increased to the point where other owners have needed to sell or take on partners or run customer cars.  The wayside dustbin is full of former Supercar Teams and/or owners.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Skip on January 15, 2022, 04:12:06 PM
So where to for Fabs? wau as a co-ey alongside Chaz?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on January 15, 2022, 04:43:38 PM
It is interesting that Peter Xiberras purchased the assets of the Team, not the team. I suppose that is the one car they had left and all the pit apparatus and one or two REC's (or whatever they are called now).

Meanwhile Speedcafe claim:
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Fabian Coulthard and Garry Jacobson’s hopes of securing their Supercars futures are being stalled as they await a release from their Team Sydney contracts.

Speedcafe.com has learnt that both Coulthard and Jacobson are technically tied to the now defunct Team Sydney, meaning neither can formally negotiate elsewhere until cutting ties with the Webb family.

Are they really serious?????????  Since when are contracts enforceable anyway.

Coulthard should get on the phone to Davy Reynolds, who is a repeat expert at dumping contracts.  Maybe even James Courtney or Shane van Gizbergen.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/15/ex-team-sydney-drivers-still-awaiting-contract-release/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: madbugger on January 16, 2022, 07:52:16 AM
I would have thought those contracts now mean squat. Surely they were for a seat in a supercar, now that Webb cannot provide that, unless there is a clause otherwise, he would probably have to pay the contract out.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on January 16, 2022, 11:36:06 AM
It is interesting that Peter Xiberras purchased the assets of the Team, not the team. I suppose that is the one car they had left and all the pit apparatus and one or two REC's (or whatever they are called now).

Meanwhile Speedcafe claim:
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Fabian Coulthard and Garry Jacobson’s hopes of securing their Supercars futures are being stalled as they await a release from their Team Sydney contracts.

Speedcafe.com has learnt that both Coulthard and Jacobson are technically tied to the now defunct Team Sydney, meaning neither can formally negotiate elsewhere until cutting ties with the Webb family.

Are they really serious?????????  Since when are contracts enforceable anyway.

Coulthard should get on the phone to Davy Reynolds, who is a repeat expert at dumping contracts.  Maybe even James Courtney or Shane van Gizbergen.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/15/ex-team-sydney-drivers-still-awaiting-contract-release/

Xiberras only purchased the assets? Everything I read is 'team.' So Fabs and Jacobson now have a contract with a non-Racing team?

To be fair to JC and SVG, was that not the best decision ever?

Where will Fabs land? WAU or back at DJR? From memory, I don't think Fabs was thrilled with getting dumped by DJR, but he also has history with Walkinshaw.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on January 16, 2022, 12:42:35 PM
It is interesting that Peter Xiberras purchased the assets of the Team, not the team. I suppose that is the one car they had left and all the pit apparatus and one or two REC's (or whatever they are called now).

Meanwhile Speedcafe claim:
Quote
Fabian Coulthard and Garry Jacobson’s hopes of securing their Supercars futures are being stalled as they await a release from their Team Sydney contracts.

Speedcafe.com has learnt that both Coulthard and Jacobson are technically tied to the now defunct Team Sydney, meaning neither can formally negotiate elsewhere until cutting ties with the Webb family.

Are they really serious?????????  Since when are contracts enforceable anyway.

Coulthard should get on the phone to Davy Reynolds, who is a repeat expert at dumping contracts.  Maybe even James Courtney or Shane van Gizbergen.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/15/ex-team-sydney-drivers-still-awaiting-contract-release/

Xiberras only purchased the assets? Everything I read is 'team.' So Fabs and Jacobson now have a contract with a non-Racing team?

To be fair to JC and SVG, was that not the best decision ever?

Where will Fabs land? WAU or back at DJR? From memory, I don't think Fabs was thrilled with getting dumped by DJR, but he also has history with Walkinshaw.

Try reading this one. maybe it is accurate coming from Glover.
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The newest team in Supercars is a blank sheet of paper for its owner, Peter Xiberras.

Team Sydney is dead and, after purchasing the assets of Tekno Autosports from Jono Webb, the successful Sydney businessman and Top Fuel racer says he is racing to get the team ready for the start of the 2022 championship.

https://autoaction.com.au/2022/01/13/blank-sheet-for-new-supercars-team-owner

Also SVG didn't break a contract with Tekno. It was the SBR/Erebus situation, and it was to get into Tekno, but agree it ended up a good decision because Tekno won Bathurst. ;)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on January 16, 2022, 01:02:18 PM
It is interesting that Peter Xiberras purchased the assets of the Team, not the team. I suppose that is the one car they had left and all the pit apparatus and one or two REC's (or whatever they are called now).

Meanwhile Speedcafe claim:
Quote
Fabian Coulthard and Garry Jacobson’s hopes of securing their Supercars futures are being stalled as they await a release from their Team Sydney contracts.

Speedcafe.com has learnt that both Coulthard and Jacobson are technically tied to the now defunct Team Sydney, meaning neither can formally negotiate elsewhere until cutting ties with the Webb family.

Are they really serious?????????  Since when are contracts enforceable anyway.

Coulthard should get on the phone to Davy Reynolds, who is a repeat expert at dumping contracts.  Maybe even James Courtney or Shane van Gizbergen.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/15/ex-team-sydney-drivers-still-awaiting-contract-release/

Xiberras only purchased the assets? Everything I read is 'team.' So Fabs and Jacobson now have a contract with a non-Racing team?

To be fair to JC and SVG, was that not the best decision ever?

Where will Fabs land? WAU or back at DJR? From memory, I don't think Fabs was thrilled with getting dumped by DJR, but he also has history with Walkinshaw.

Also SVG didn't break a contract with Tekno. It was the SBR/Erebus situation, and it was to get into Tekno, but agree it ended up a good decision because Tekno won Bathurst. ;)

I was referring to the SVG/SBR-Erebus contract. Yes, a bloody good decision.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on January 20, 2022, 03:36:15 PM
What a turn around for Fabs, in the best team 2020 to the least best team in 2021 to out in 2022.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/pither-in-coulthard-out-at-new-look-premiair-racing/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on January 20, 2022, 03:51:28 PM
What a turn around for Fabs, in the best team 2020 to the least best team in 2021 to out in 2022.

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/pither-in-coulthard-out-at-new-look-premiair-racing/

More Coke money than Fabs was able to bring?

Who could really know what goes on within the teams decision making process.... there is what is said publicly and what is never said.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on January 20, 2022, 03:57:21 PM
To be honest. I think it's a win/win.

Pither was always going to come in with his Coke money. So that's one seat down. Only question is, where does that leave Macauley?

For the other seat, you have Fabs, 39, and Jacobson, 29. I'd take the young guy to build upon, who was just a whisker behind Fabs last year in pace.
Fabs now moves on to give the big one a proper shake for 2-3 years. Surely he has the top seat at either DJR, Tickford or WAU. Or would he prefer to (likely) wobble around battling for 15th?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on January 20, 2022, 04:18:44 PM
Too bad for Fabs but that is how it goes sometimes.

You guys and all this talk about Coke money.  Sounds like drug kingpins buying in!   8)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on January 20, 2022, 04:38:14 PM
To be honest. I think it's a win/win.

Pither was always going to come in with his Coke money. So that's one seat down. Only question is, where does that leave Macauley?

For the other seat, you have Fabs, 39, and Jacobson, 29. I'd take the young guy to build upon, who was just a whisker behind Fabs last year in pace.
Fabs now moves on to give the big one a proper shake for 2-3 years. Surely he has the top seat at either DJR, Tickford or WAU. Or would he prefer to (likely) wobble around battling for 15th?

Would Fabs want to return to DJR (even though they do perform well still) given it didn't feel like a nice departure for him?

WAU? Maybe? A different branding on the squad since he was last there.

Tickford? A possibility.


Disappointing way for the guy to go from hero team to not wanted for a full time gig in the space of 12 months.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on January 20, 2022, 06:56:21 PM
From reading some of the many articles, I gather that only Coulthard was a paid driver with Team Sydney and that was probably taken out of the Tony Quinn sponsorship money/ and therefore the suggestion was that Jacobson was not paid by Team Sydney.

It was also suggested that Peter Xiberras actually owned one of the Team Sydney cars in 2021. As he was sponsoring one car, then maybe Jacobson was effectively already working for PremiAir.

Considering the huge wordage published about the deal, I am not chasing the references, which may or may not be accurate.

Coulthard was near to ending his career as a full timer and, like Tander, he might win big as a co-driver.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on January 20, 2022, 07:12:31 PM
Team Kiwi for Bathurst could be an option? Think he would be a better option than Murph with much more recent seat time.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on January 20, 2022, 07:29:12 PM
Team Kiwi for Bathurst could be an option? Think he would be a better option than Murph with much more recent seat time.

Coulthard probably won't have the media attention of Murph - which is all Adderton is usually after.
Plus, I don't think Fabs would waste a year if he had an offer from one of the above teams.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on January 20, 2022, 09:11:17 PM
Fabs will slot straight into the co-driver seat beside Chaz
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on January 20, 2022, 10:10:42 PM
i have been thinking that an excellent co-driver will probably get paid better in a top team than a desperate full timer grasping at a drive in a lowly team.

Have a better chance at a Bathurst win too. ;D

Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on January 21, 2022, 07:38:31 AM
Hard pressed to see Fabian anywhere but WAU.

Since Bathurst 2019, I have suspected that the slowing right down to 40kms or whatever was a dummy spit....nothing more than an inkling....but they(Ryan) were pretty quick to cut him hey, Ryan has been pretty clear he knew nothing about it....so it will be interesting to hear his side of the story some day....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Bloopy on January 21, 2022, 12:15:23 PM
What a turn around for Fabs, in the best team 2020 to the least best team in 2021 to out in 2022.

Well, I'd say he certainly underperformed in 2018 and 2020 at least. Can't hide behind car deficiencies any more in a top team like that. Already had his shot and showed the best he's got.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Skip on January 21, 2022, 01:31:59 PM
Rem I’m not sure Ryan knew nothing about it. If my car was almost stopping on Conrod I’d want to know what the drama was. The debriss coment clearly showed it wasn’t fabs call.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on January 21, 2022, 03:54:41 PM
Rem I’m not sure Ryan knew nothing about it. If my car was almost stopping on Conrod I’d want to know what the drama was. The debriss coment clearly showed it wasn’t fabs call.

Did you listen to Ryan on Rusty's garage? It's quite enlightening....Ryan has actually won damages concerning peoples allegations re this too he confirms.....from memory Ryan commented "Ï was horrified at what I saw occurring....", it sure would be interesting to hear Fabians account of what happened....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Skip on January 23, 2022, 01:28:35 AM
Yeah I listened to that one. I think that translated to “I was horrified that we got caught out and take no responsibility for the team’s actions.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on January 23, 2022, 10:37:59 PM
Rem I’m not sure Ryan knew nothing about it. If my car was almost stopping on Conrod I’d want to know what the drama was. The debriss coment clearly showed it wasn’t fabs call.

Did you listen to Ryan on Rusty's garage? It's quite enlightening....Ryan has actually won damages concerning peoples allegations re this too he confirms.....from memory Ryan commented "Ï was horrified at what I saw occurring....", it sure would be interesting to hear Fabians account of what happened....

Ryan has to say that! But anyway not sure that is relevant right now.

Fabs would be one very safe pair of hands in a co-driver role and WAU would be stupid not to outbid the rest to pair him up with Chaz.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on January 24, 2022, 12:33:29 PM
No Newy...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/24/supercars-confirms-newcastle-500-postponement/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on January 24, 2022, 01:20:02 PM
No Newy...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/24/supercars-confirms-newcastle-500-postponement/

Anton would be licking his lips!

Big shame though, Newcastle to SMP is a bit of a hype-loss.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on January 24, 2022, 01:49:02 PM
No Newy...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/24/supercars-confirms-newcastle-500-postponement/

Anton would be licking his lips!

Big shame though, Newcastle to SMP is a bit of a hype-loss.

Agreed. Esp after having the 4 in a row last year and the bore fest that was with the lack of imagination in the rounds.

BUT I am never sad to see the back of a street circuit.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on January 24, 2022, 06:48:10 PM
No Newy...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/24/supercars-confirms-newcastle-500-postponement/
I don’t know what’s least of surprise. Not racing at Newcastle or racing at SMP.
I agree with Sonic, 4 rounds in a row last year and again for the first (and possibly more??) is a bore fest. Realise they don’t have a lot of options.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on January 24, 2022, 07:38:29 PM
No Newy...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/24/supercars-confirms-newcastle-500-postponement/
I don’t know what’s least of surprise. Not racing at Newcastle or racing at SMP.
I agree with Sonic, 4 rounds in a row last year and again for the first (and possibly more??) is a bore fest. Realise they don’t have a lot of options.

agreed with a limited workforce any street circuit is in for hell

but disagree with SMP... multiple configs plus day/night plus sprint/mid/enduro options gives plenty of scope to keep it interesting
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on January 25, 2022, 06:28:54 AM
Herrod to take charge of DJR engines:

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/25/herrod-to-take-the-reins-from-retiring-amos/?fbclid=IwAR1Q0kvT0luXtHhRmU-sgRIjlB5KbQ0UtrhZYuAI-roS8BxL-mifa5A_kRA
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Joe5619 on January 25, 2022, 09:14:08 AM
For the love of God, why EC AGAIN!! Pick another track FFS or use half a brain this time & use a different track layout, they have 3 at EC (Don't get me started with 4 round in a row last year & same layout every time).
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on January 25, 2022, 09:20:01 AM
For the love of God, why EC AGAIN!! Pick another track FFS or use half a brain this time & use a different track layout, they have 3 at EC (Don't get me started with 4 round in a row last year & same layout every time).
Yeah, we have to do something different to mix it up.  Different layouts, etc.. 

How about this: Bring in co-drivers.  Run the main drivers in one race, the co-drivers in the other.  Take the aggregate.

Hell, I don't know.... ::)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on January 25, 2022, 02:00:43 PM
For the love of God, why EC AGAIN!! Pick another track FFS or use half a brain this time & use a different track layout, they have 3 at EC (Don't get me started with 4 round in a row last year & same layout every time).
Yeah, we have to do something different to mix it up.  Different layouts, etc.. 

How about this: Bring in co-drivers.  Run the main drivers in one race, the co-drivers in the other.  Take the aggregate.

Hell, I don't know.... ::)

outside the box, why not!

25 lap 'a' driver race followed by 25 lap 'b' driver race on Sat.... follow it up on Sun with a 100 lap 2 driver enduro with grid set by combined finish placings... if 2 teams have the same grid spot then whoever had the better 'a' and 'b' lap time in their races gets the nod.

simplez...
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on January 26, 2022, 07:42:58 AM
Penrite x2!
https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/01/26/grove-lands-expanded-penrite-backing/?fbclid=IwAR1ZT2vtSD5YN7yHlf3el30KpDe19-62rug-TQ17sQw5_9bkV3b4TTN9nxw
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on January 26, 2022, 10:31:38 AM
For the love of God, why EC AGAIN!! Pick another track FFS or use half a brain this time & use a different track layout, they have 3 at EC (Don't get me started with 4 round in a row last year & same layout every time).
Yeah, we have to do something different to mix it up.  Different layouts, etc.. 

How about this: Bring in co-drivers.  Run the main drivers in one race, the co-drivers in the other.  Take the aggregate.

Hell, I don't know.... ::)

outside the box, why not!

25 lap 'a' driver race followed by 25 lap 'b' driver race on Sat.... follow it up on Sun with a 100 lap 2 driver enduro with grid set by combined finish placings... if 2 teams have the same grid spot then whoever had the better 'a' and 'b' lap time in their races gets the nod.

simplez...

Yep and all full time drivers paired with an amateur driver from an entry level series.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on January 26, 2022, 01:26:07 PM
For the love of God, why EC AGAIN!! Pick another track FFS or use half a brain this time & use a different track layout, they have 3 at EC (Don't get me started with 4 round in a row last year & same layout every time).
Yeah, we have to do something different to mix it up.  Different layouts, etc.. 

How about this: Bring in co-drivers.  Run the main drivers in one race, the co-drivers in the other.  Take the aggregate.

Hell, I don't know.... ::)

outside the box, why not!

25 lap 'a' driver race followed by 25 lap 'b' driver race on Sat.... follow it up on Sun with a 100 lap 2 driver enduro with grid set by combined finish placings... if 2 teams have the same grid spot then whoever had the better 'a' and 'b' lap time in their races gets the nod.

simplez...

Yep and all full time drivers paired with an amateur driver from an entry level series.

I like it! And then a 'return the favour' race weekend too!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on February 02, 2022, 10:19:14 AM
Keed back to BJR...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/02/02/ace-engineer-keed-reunites-with-brad-jones-racing/?fbclid=IwAR3vmnwYPbzG1DzFTsMfTERWahfuyvY5zncK7k5BJN8UkCFLsHo4kAWZ8zk
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on February 02, 2022, 11:15:25 AM
Keed back to BJR...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/02/02/ace-engineer-keed-reunites-with-brad-jones-racing/?fbclid=IwAR3vmnwYPbzG1DzFTsMfTERWahfuyvY5zncK7k5BJN8UkCFLsHo4kAWZ8zk

I wonder at the situation whereby the Race Engineer resides in another State. The actual car preparation and logistics must be done by others.

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Scott is pretty excited as well; he’ll have an engineer based in Melbourne now at the race team instead of Queensland [where Keed resides].

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/02/02/team-18-confirms-engineering-reshuffle/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on February 03, 2022, 04:15:37 PM
And now talk of scuttling Winton for Newcastle... dunno what they're on but they're not sharing...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/02/02/new-newcastle-500-date-firming-for-supercars/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on February 03, 2022, 10:05:42 PM
My preference, at every level, excepting Bathurst, is for a permanent circuit over a temporary community disruptive street circuit.

Bathurst is an exception because it has become an iconic race track, but with street use between events.

I particularly dislike State Governments pouring money into temporary circuits that provide no residual benefit to motorsport.

I applaud the SA Government decision to scrap the Adelaide Street circuit and encourage the Qld Government to do the same with Surfers.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on February 04, 2022, 09:37:21 AM
My preference, at every level, excepting Bathurst, is for a permanent circuit over a temporary community disruptive street circuit.

Bathurst is an exception because it has become an iconic race track, but with street use between events.

I particularly dislike State Governments pouring money into temporary circuits that provide no residual benefit to motorsport.

I applaud the SA Government decision to scrap the Adelaide Street circuit and encourage the Qld Government to do the same with Surfers.

I generally agree, however street tracks hold some merit when the city supports them. Townsville, GC and Adelaide until recently.
The parklands section in Adelaide is Heritage listed, so it has some sort of value to the community.

There's still got to be a sense of 'event' at some points throughout the calendar, no different to when a music festival or cultural event takes place in a city centre. The temporary changing of the fabric of the city is what makes it good - from a community aspect.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on February 14, 2022, 07:27:11 PM
Silly Season continues…

https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/possible-2022-return-for-adelaide-500/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Brazen on February 21, 2022, 10:26:35 PM
Do commentary changes count as silly season?

Very glad Charli is gone... found her very "Mum trying to be cool with her son's friends"

Just trying a bit too hard
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on February 21, 2022, 11:00:07 PM
Once again the number "1" wil not be used by the carry over champion

It is probably just me, but. I consider this is disrespect of the championship.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on February 21, 2022, 11:10:55 PM
Pye set to have a new main sponsor:
https://au.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/dewalt-team-18-split-pye/8364149/?nrt=18

I don't really mind that the #1 isn't used - must be a NZ thing. I know what I'd be using.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on February 22, 2022, 08:36:47 AM
Coulthard/Luff for Bathurst at WAU

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/02/22/wau-confirms-coulthard-luff-for-bathurst-1000/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Bloopy on February 22, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
I don't really mind that the #1 isn't used - must be a NZ thing.

I recall last time around Shane said it'd be like wearing a target. Surely that's the point: challenging your fellow drivers to try and catch you. But I guess given he could only manage 4th the following year he was relieved not to have the 1 on his car reminding him he'd gone down a few places compared to the recent past.

I think Scotty just didn't like the idea of #17 not being on the grid. Would've been better to swap it over to Fabs.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: madbugger on February 22, 2022, 07:00:58 PM
I don't really mind that the #1 isn't used - must be a NZ thing.

I think Scotty just didn't like the idea of #17 not being on the grid. Would've been better to swap it over to Fabs.

I’m with you Skaifeman, I don’t care either if 1 isn’t out there

Bloopy, the no. 17 deserves better than that.


Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on February 23, 2022, 12:40:16 AM
Fabian has a great gig and a shot at Bathurst.

I know he is well regarded by many here, including me.

But: the commercial reality is that none of the teams were prepared to hire him except the failing and cash strapped Team Sydney, now defunct.

Team owners are the ultimate arbiter of a drivers worth, not fans.

I hope he does better than mid-field in TCR and does well in the Enduros.

For his family's sake, he needs to be looking at a future without a race drivers income.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on February 23, 2022, 09:23:57 AM
So what's the bet that Boost end up on Courtney's car? Seems Appliances Online has dried up?

And you're right Stevo - that's something that Holdsworth had to deal with too, I believe he's a part-time real estate agent now. That was all lined up before his Grove drive, hence part-time now.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on February 24, 2022, 08:40:48 AM
WAU to support Grove?!? Now that’s curious!!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on February 24, 2022, 09:45:15 AM
WAU to support Grove?!? Now that’s curious!!
i suspect you are mistaken.
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Walkinshaw Racing will provide Grove Racing with support for its engine programme in the 2022 Repco Supercars Championship, Speedcafe.com can confirm.

Walkinshaw Racing currently supplies engines to Walkinshaw Andretti United and Erebus Motorsport as well as to various teams in the category’s feeder series.
...
“Obviously, Walkinshaw Racing has a proud history and an engine department that works for WAU and other Supercar teams and other Super2 teams.

“It’s a separate entity from WAU, so it’s a separate business, an engine business.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/02/24/walkinshaw-to-provide-grove-engine-support/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: TheArrow on February 24, 2022, 11:02:27 AM
I'll be honest I didn't really keep up with the roles the Kellys will have but I thought I read something about the Kellys (or Todd at least) still  had some kind of impact on the engine or engineering side. But I may have misinterpreted that when it was announced.

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Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: madbugger on February 25, 2022, 06:23:56 AM
I'll be honest I didn't really keep up with the roles the Kellys will have but I thought I read something about the Kellys (or Todd at least) still  had some kind of impact on the engine or engineering side. But I may have misinterpreted that when it was announced.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

It’s also interesting the Walkinshaw will be offering advice on an engine, which before the arrival of Chaz to the team, the only experience they had with it was chasing after cars that were using it.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on February 25, 2022, 08:55:11 AM
I'll be honest I didn't really keep up with the roles the Kellys will have but I thought I read something about the Kellys (or Todd at least) still  had some kind of impact on the engine or engineering side. But I may have misinterpreted that when it was announced.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

I thought the same thing Arrow. Didn't the Kelly's hold onto the engine and fab shop to provide support to others? You'd assume Grove's would be customer #1.
Either something has changed, or what Walkinshaw are providing isn't exactly what we think it is.

https://kellygroveracing.com.au/component/content/article/88-latest-news/363-team-ownership-update
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: madbugger on February 25, 2022, 01:55:18 PM
I'll be honest I didn't really keep up with the roles the Kellys will have but I thought I read something about the Kellys (or Todd at least) still  had some kind of impact on the engine or engineering side. But I may have misinterpreted that when it was announced.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

I thought the same thing Arrow. Didn't the Kelly's hold onto the engine and fab shop to provide support to others? You'd assume Grove's would be customer #1.
Either something has changed, or what Walkinshaw are providing isn't exactly what we think it is.

https://kellygroveracing.com.au/component/content/article/88-latest-news/363-team-ownership-update

It kinda looks like something went pear shaped with the relationship between Kelly's and Groves.
Why else would Groves be looking else where for their support, and where does that leave Todd given Gen 3 goes to a control engine and so you wouldn't think they would be as up to date with it as they would be with their own designed engine>
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on February 28, 2022, 05:43:41 PM
I know it is early in the count, but the Pirtek poll for the 2022 winner is interesting, if only for fifth.

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#97 Shane van Gisbergen  36.44%  (492 votes)
#11 Anton De Pasquale  22.07%  (298 votes)
#25 Chaz Mostert  22.07%  (298 votes)
#6 Cameron Waters  5.85%  (79 votes)
 
#4 Jack Smith  2.37%  (32 votes)
 

It seems that no one rates Scott Pye.
Quote
#20 Scott Pye  0%  (0 votes)

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/02/28/poll-who-will-win-the-2022-supercars-championship/

Spelling corrected.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on March 01, 2022, 03:08:30 AM
I’ll be putting money on Brown and Anton but think it will be either Giz or Chaz to take it out.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on March 01, 2022, 11:16:21 AM
I’ll be putting money on Brown and Anton but think it will be either Giz or Chaz to take it out.
I tend to agree, the Mustang package is really just not up to the task now….that said ADP should be the best Stang, maybe in 3rd or 4th! I really can’t see Chaz’s matching SVG’s intensity and focus over a whole year…hard to go past SVG…all a bit meh, but it is what it is….
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on March 01, 2022, 01:27:22 PM
Quoting the Grateful Dead, "Put your money where your love is baby"....

The V8CFL is open to all who think they have the key to unlock the 2022 championship.  Match your wits with some of the greatest strategists of the 21st century.  Only a few days left to step up into the big league and swing the bat.

https://www.v8central.com/index.php?topic=200.0

But if you have no sack, we understand.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on March 04, 2022, 06:45:50 PM
https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/03/04/triple-eight-launches-legal-action-against-cauchi/

Oh dear.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Ospif1 on March 04, 2022, 07:42:56 PM
If he's not being paid then one could argue that T8 would be preventing him from earning a living.  Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on March 04, 2022, 07:57:17 PM
Brad Jones has LOW expectations for 2022 Championship. Just one driver in the top 10.

Perhaps, his understanding that none of the drivers is capable of contesting the championship or perhaps his understanding is that none of his cars are capable of contesting the championship.

It just seems very low targets for the drivers with several years in the Championship.


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“Success would look like for me with Andre regularly in the top 10 like Nick used to be for us,” Jones said, while talking highly of how his revamped team has come together.

“He is the team leader and that is the responsibility that comes with that mantle.

“With Bryce, it’s somewhere around the top 12.

“And Macca [Macauley Jones] and Jack [Smith], I’d like to think that they have got the ability to leap into the top 15 and qualify in the top 10 from time to time, which is a big jump for those guys.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/03/04/expectations-set-out-for-bjr-quartet/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on March 04, 2022, 09:05:42 PM
Brad Jones has LOW expectations for 2022 Championship. Just one driver in the top 10.

Perhaps, his understanding that none of the drivers is capable of contesting the championship or perhaps his understanding is that none of his cars are capable of contesting the championship.

It just seems very low targets for the drivers with several years in the Championship.


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“Success would look like for me with Andre regularly in the top 10 like Nick used to be for us,” Jones said, while talking highly of how his revamped team has come together.

“He is the team leader and that is the responsibility that comes with that mantle.

“With Bryce, it’s somewhere around the top 12.

“And Macca [Macauley Jones] and Jack [Smith], I’d like to think that they have got the ability to leap into the top 15 and qualify in the top 10 from time to time, which is a big jump for those guys.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/03/04/expectations-set-out-for-bjr-quartet/

I think that's all fair and reasonable. Nothing wrong with being realistic.
He's also suggesting he'd like all 4 cars in the top 15!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: SetonFan on March 19, 2022, 10:18:05 PM
Looks like Adelaide 500 will be back as season finale! Next question is if Newcastle squeezes in to replace Winton as rumoured or they hold off for round 1 2023.

If the proposed date of 2-4 December is right, then it will be a 5 week break after the penultimate round at Gold Coast which is a bit too long, even with the hype that Adelaide would generate.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: TheArrow on March 20, 2022, 11:58:37 AM
Looks like Adelaide 500 will be back as season finale! Next question is if Newcastle squeezes in to replace Winton as rumoured or they hold off for round 1 2023.

If the proposed date of 2-4 December is right, then it will be a 5 week break after the penultimate round at Gold Coast which is a bit too long, even with the hype that Adelaide would generate.
They could potentially give Newcastle the Winton date in May and slot Winton in inbetween Gold Coast and Adelaide if that does occur.

Alternatively they could finish the season with 3 street circuits in a row. The issue with that is it is a very tight (and unrealistic) turnaround time. It is well known that it takes weeks/months to set up a street circuit and with a lot of shared equipment between GC, Newcastle and Adelaide likely, it would be near impossible for the GC circuit to be set up, pulled down, transported to Newcastle to be assembled and then disassembled, then transported to Adelaide.

I know not all aspects/equipment would be used among all three circuits but it is common knowledge areas such as pit facilities are shared between GC and Newcastle, and with a lot of the Adelaide infrastructure sold off it is obviously a likely prospect that they would require some from the other street circuits.

For me, the best and most likely option would be to slot Newcastle in May on Winton's original date (which even then is cutting it fine considering we're already in mid-March) and slot Winton 2 (or 3) weeks after GC in the lead up to the potential Adelaide 500 finale.

Either that or the Adelaide promise was a political promise which means about as much as a driver's contract and we end up with the awkward prospect of Newcastle closing the 2022 season and then 3 months later opening the 2023 season.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on March 20, 2022, 12:08:57 PM
I understood that the bits and bobs required to assemble the track surrounds, fencing etc., had been auctioned off or sold.

This would greatly increase the costs if all that has to be created or purchases.

Time will tell.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on March 20, 2022, 02:44:05 PM
What happened to the blue and red shades over the main grandstand?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: TheArrow on March 20, 2022, 03:26:01 PM
I understood that the bits and bobs required to assemble the track surrounds, fencing etc., had been auctioned off or sold.

This would greatly increase the costs if all that has to be created or purchases.

Time will tell.

A lot had been sold to The Bend (convenient) and a lot had been purchased by collectors who have an "understanding" to "loan" them back to Supercars in the event the round goes ahead.

But the rest would likely be required from the GC/Newcastle events which I spoke about above.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: SetonFan on March 20, 2022, 03:53:13 PM
I understood that the bits and bobs required to assemble the track surrounds, fencing etc., had been auctioned off or sold.

This would greatly increase the costs if all that has to be created or purchases.

Time will tell.

Supercars can provide at least some of the infrastructure - as they do for Gold Coast and Newcastle.

Having said that - considering SA Labor has put their neck out to get the event back, if Supercars want to be greedy they could extort them almost as much as they want
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on March 22, 2022, 07:38:07 PM
Will Scott McLaughlin make it back this year for Bathurst? Will he return to a Chevrolet Racing team?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: V8SuperRiley on March 23, 2022, 11:23:13 AM
Will Scott McLaughlin make it back this year for Bathurst? Will he return to a Chevrolet Racing team?

He's hoping to be back, contracted to DJR.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on March 23, 2022, 05:10:17 PM
Will Scott McLaughlin make it back this year for Bathurst? Will he return to a Chevrolet Racing team?

for gawdsake, it's hard enough to watch Formula ZB as it is now.....don't scare us like that! >:( ;)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on March 23, 2022, 08:13:17 PM
Will Scott McLaughlin make it back this year for Bathurst? Will he return to a Chevrolet Racing team?

for gawdsake, it's hard enough to watch Formula ZB as it is now.....don't scare us like that! >:( ;)

he'd come back and be a second and a half quicker than the rest LOL
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on March 24, 2022, 07:16:20 AM
Will Scott McLaughlin make it back this year for Bathurst? Will he return to a Chevrolet Racing team?

for gawdsake, it's hard enough to watch Formula ZB as it is now.....don't scare us like that! >:( ;)

he'd come back and be a second and a half quicker than the rest LOL

and even more "parity" or is that "parody" for the Ford runners.....aaarrrggghhhhhhh!!!!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on March 25, 2022, 12:45:41 AM
I am wondering if we will see a Bathurst Wildcard from 888 with Prince Jefri and Craig Lowndes??
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on March 25, 2022, 10:28:12 AM
I am wondering if we will see a Bathurst Wildcard from 888 with Prince Jefri and Craig Lowndes??

Lowndes in a wildcard is looking more and more likely. They won't drop the SVG/Tander combo.

Depending on how Feeney goes (not up to scratch), could Whincup/Lowndes be the wildcard with a star O/S driver to partner Feeney?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on March 26, 2022, 11:58:31 AM
I am wondering if we will see a Bathurst Wildcard from 888 with Prince Jefri and Craig Lowndes??

Lowndes in a wildcard is looking more and more likely. They won't drop the SVG/Tander combo.

Depending on how Feeney goes (not up to scratch), could Whincup/Lowndes be the wildcard with a star O/S driver to partner Feeney?
They could do that if it doesn’t compromise their teams championship.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: SetonFan on March 26, 2022, 05:11:17 PM
I am wondering if we will see a Bathurst Wildcard from 888 with Prince Jefri and Craig Lowndes??
I don't think he would qualify for a special dispensation to get a licence would he?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on March 26, 2022, 09:43:45 PM
I am wondering if we will see a Bathurst Wildcard from 888 with Prince Jefri and Craig Lowndes??
I don't think he would qualify for a special dispensation to get a licence would he?

He competes in a lot of series, both internationally and in Australia, so he might qualify without an exemption by October. I would not rule out an expanded TA2, Super 2 and GT program in Australia. His machinery is fettled by 888 and powered by money.

Maybe he can race with Diplomatic Plates  ;D
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on March 28, 2022, 10:45:08 AM
I am wondering if we will see a Bathurst Wildcard from 888 with Prince Jefri and Craig Lowndes??

Lowndes in a wildcard is looking more and more likely. They won't drop the SVG/Tander combo.

Depending on how Feeney goes (not up to scratch), could Whincup/Lowndes be the wildcard with a star O/S driver to partner Feeney?
They could do that if it doesn’t compromise their teams championship.

Doubt they would after the weekend Feeney just had. Would be a no brainer to team Whincup with Feeney.
Considering Lowndes hasn't been named at either other top drives (DJR & WAU), dare say Lowndes will run a wildcard with whatever sponsor would fund the car for the definite exposure.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on March 28, 2022, 08:37:54 PM
CL and The Flash
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on April 07, 2022, 08:48:47 PM
Gauchi has obviously looked at the Grove cars and decided to junk a lot of Kelly parts. Both 888 and Walkinshaw could be selling them proven suspension bits.

If Reynolds can get the car to the front row, then the cars must be a lot better,

I wonder if Reynolds could give a report on the different performance of this years engine vs last years.

A similar report on the engine variation would be interesting from Cooldrive.

The Groves have consistently purchased state of the art performance equipment from Porsche. Why would they not continue to buy the best available.


i, too, wonder where the Nissans would have been if Kellys had used proven chassis suspension bits.?

But, then again, BJR did have the pick of all suppliers and, in reality, are not competitive, even when they get a half decent driver.

And then, there are teams with absolute up to date 888 equipment and assistance but apparently they don't have the drivers or engineers to maximise this equipment usage.

Might be time for a serious driver currency of ability evaluation. There must be a crossover point between top drivers on the way down and new drivers on the way up (probably cheaper too).

Unfortunately Supercars has at the maximum (IMHO) about 10 competitive cars/drivers and a whole bunch of perpetual backmarkers. A bit harsh. A couple of them are mid-fielders.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Ospif1 on April 07, 2022, 08:58:54 PM
The kelly engine couldn't even have the butterflies tuned on the car and there was already a noticeable gain in a simple intake design tweak. For guys so highly praised for their engineering prowess it's odd how poor some of their design decisions were.

The recent results for Grove a no fluke, it's really just the new team improving a lot of issues and finding the true potential of the car.

Makes you wonder what could have been achieved with the Nissan in better hands.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on April 07, 2022, 09:01:55 PM
Dave said it best after his qualifying performance - "Groves have invested a lot this year."
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on April 20, 2022, 11:10:48 AM
Feeney was a big gamble for the 2022 season but in my opinion he is doing great.

Even exceeded his own expectations apparently.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/04/20/feeney-exceeding-own-expectations-in-rookie-season/

What’s everyone else’s thoughts?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on April 20, 2022, 09:24:18 PM
Feeney was a big gamble for the 2022 season but in my opinion he is doing great.

Even exceeded his own expectations apparently.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/04/20/feeney-exceeding-own-expectations-in-rookie-season/

What’s everyone else’s thoughts?
No knock on Broc, but I could exceed my expectations in a TER car. 

Now put me or him in a BJR car and see how far our "exceedence" goes....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Bloopy on April 20, 2022, 09:53:36 PM
I reckon Feeney was barely a gamble at all. T8 being fairly certain to pick a kid they can rely on to rise to their standards.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on April 21, 2022, 06:11:02 AM
I reckon Feeney was barely a gamble at all. T8 being fairly certain to pick a kid they can rely on to rise to their standards.
Agree, Bloops.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on April 21, 2022, 08:25:51 AM
I reckon Feeney was barely a gamble at all. T8 being fairly certain to pick a kid they can rely on to rise to their standards.

Especially whilst the other side of the garage keeps the sponsors happy.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: V8SuperRiley on April 23, 2022, 08:41:34 AM
It's good to see young Zak Best get a crack with a wildcard entry.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on April 27, 2022, 02:04:31 PM
Speedcafe all but confirming a wildcard for Lowndes:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/04/27/co-driver-clarity-at-top-end-of-town/

Fraser or Hill likely to get a pretty good gig!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on May 02, 2022, 08:12:54 PM
https://www.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/doubts-new-zealand-supercars-round/10262115/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on May 07, 2022, 07:24:48 PM
https://www.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/doubts-new-zealand-supercars-round/10262115/

That’s a kick in the guts for NZ fans. Kiwis have dominated the sport for the last 5 years so they deserve some races

There are enough tracks suitable over there to do 3-4 rounds running just as this did SMP last year.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on May 07, 2022, 08:11:13 PM
NZ was held up high in front of the world for their COVID response and success.  It is much easier to do for an island country.  Now shipping, freight, and supply issues are rearing their heads.  It is much harder to do for an island country.

Yin and Yang.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: the undertaker on May 08, 2022, 07:52:25 AM
NZ was held up high in front of the world for their COVID response and success.

I'm glad you added the word "was", coz it sure isn't now. This current bunch of lefties has all but destroyed small business' in New Zealand.

Good luck to the ozzies should they be so unfortunate in 2 weeks time.

It certainly is a kick in the teeth for us here, especially as Pukekohe is my home town now.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: fordman on May 08, 2022, 04:08:21 PM
geeezus what would any of us be doing if we were CEO of SC  atm?

Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on May 08, 2022, 04:34:17 PM
geeezus what would any of us be doing if we were CEO of SC  atm?

I would choose to retire with a huge golden handshake. ;D 8)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on May 08, 2022, 06:07:20 PM
NZ was held up high in front of the world for their COVID response and success.

I'm glad you added the word "was", coz it sure isn't now. This current bunch of lefties has all but destroyed small business' in New Zealand.

Good luck to the ozzies should they be so unfortunate in 2 weeks time.

It certainly is a kick in the teeth for us here, especially as Pukekohe is my home town now.
I don't/didn't mean to knock the NZ government with my post.  They were top shelf in their health safety.  Over here in the States the debate amongst the masses was always health safety v. economical hits.  No government could have covered both bases.  It is just an unfortunate turn of events if NZ starts having economic strife, which subsequently could include a Supercars round.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on May 10, 2022, 09:22:03 AM
Payne and Campbell confirmed at Grove for the enduros: https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/05/10/grove-racing-confirms-bathurst-1000-driver-pairings/

Ojeda to race at Winton and Hidden Valley: https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/05/10/ojeda-seals-walkinshaw-andretti-united-debut/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Sonic on May 10, 2022, 04:18:41 PM
Payne and Campbell confirmed at Grove for the enduros: https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/05/10/grove-racing-confirms-bathurst-1000-driver-pairings/

Ojeda to race at Winton and Hidden Valley: https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/05/10/ojeda-seals-walkinshaw-andretti-united-debut/

plus I also saw that Winton was going to get another wildcard in Jordan Boys.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on May 11, 2022, 06:23:49 PM
NZ was held up high in front of the world for their COVID response and success.

I'm glad you added the word "was", coz it sure isn't now. This current bunch of lefties has all but destroyed small business' in New Zealand.

Good luck to the ozzies should they be so unfortunate in 2 weeks time.

It certainly is a kick in the teeth for us here, especially as Pukekohe is my home town now.

Sure would love to send ScoMo, Barnaby and Dutto over to you folks.... we won't miss em at all.... ;)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: djr18fan on May 12, 2022, 05:09:00 AM
Small businesses in NZ are, on average, doing quite well. Of course those that rely on international tourists have suffered, as they have around the world as people chose not to travel - even if they could.
Many sectors are actually booming.

Freight issues putting the NZ supercars round at risk are a global issue.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/small-business-sales-lifted-jobs-added-in-march-despite-omicron-cases-peaking/QO7J7WN5X6K23NDYBAWCKPZDXY/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: V8SuperRiley on May 13, 2022, 10:41:29 AM
Small businesses in NZ are, on average, doing quite well. Of course those that rely on international tourists have suffered, as they have around the world as people chose not to travel - even if they could.
Many sectors are actually booming.

Freight issues putting the NZ supercars round at risk are a global issue.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/small-business-sales-lifted-jobs-added-in-march-despite-omicron-cases-peaking/QO7J7WN5X6K23NDYBAWCKPZDXY/

Don't get me started on freight issues.. It doesn't seem to matter lately if it's international or domestic, it's been a thorn in my side through work haha.


I'm hoping that we can get a NZ round in, as it's a great track!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on May 13, 2022, 02:33:49 PM
Scotty won't be returning for the 1000:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/05/13/exclusive-mclaughlins-bathurst-1000-return-ruled-out/

Listening to him on Enforcer and the Dude recently, it became pretty clear that he'd likely be busy with IndyCar. He certainly didn't sound certain.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on May 13, 2022, 03:52:17 PM
I know it is unlikely, but as Scotty is now a Chevrolet driver, how about a wildcard with Craig Lowndes. ;D

Maybe next year in a Camaro. ::)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: CP on May 13, 2022, 04:30:54 PM
Scotty won't be returning for the 1000:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/05/13/exclusive-mclaughlins-bathurst-1000-return-ruled-out/

Listening to him on Enforcer and the Dude recently, it became pretty clear that he'd likely be busy with IndyCar. He certainly didn't sound certain.

Won't happen next year or the year after either.

It's hardly surprising news.

I suspect that next year's reasoning could be a Porsche LMDh drive at Petit Le Man's instead.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on May 14, 2022, 08:28:20 AM
I know it is unlikely, but as Scotty is now a Chevrolet driver, how about a wildcard with Craig Lowndes. ;D

Maybe next year in a Camaro. ::)

He's a Penske driver first and foremost- check out what they run in NASCAR.....and it's fair to say that Roger ain't all that enamoured with either Supercars and even less so, RD and 888.....  ;-)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Zac on May 14, 2022, 08:52:00 AM
RD has moved on, V8 Supercars was sold last year to new owners and you don't need to be enamoured of your opposition, so are you saying: "Watch this space"?  :)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on May 14, 2022, 08:57:13 AM
RD has moved on, V8 Supercars was sold last year to new owners and you don't need to be enamoured of your opposition, so are you saying: "Watch this space"?  :)
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Pretty sure he was in the pits recently....Roger was pretty disappointed with the series.....I'd say there's no chance of Scott racing anything Supercars in the next 3-5 years, if ever? Wanna bet? Coffee and a Sandwich at our next TCM meeting?  ;D
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Zac on May 14, 2022, 10:06:25 AM
So, we've got five years before whoever loses has to buy that coffee and sandwich? Sounds fair, and I'd say the odds are about even atm. It could well be hybrid or all-electric Supercars by then.
BTW, TCM at SMP in a fortnight - if you like acronyms, well, initialisms actually.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on May 14, 2022, 04:15:08 PM
So, we've got five years before whoever loses has to buy that coffee and sandwich? Sounds fair, and I'd say the odds are about even atm. It could well be hybrid or all-electric Supercars by then.
BTW, TCM at SMP in a fortnight - if you like acronyms, well, initialisms actually.

Sounds like a date! Oh, and the 5 years too.....I'll be able to save up! Those SMP sandwiches are crazy expensive hey......
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Zac on May 14, 2022, 04:35:58 PM
Are they? I'm pretty sure you've paid on both previous occasions.
Win, lose or draw, it looks like my turn to pay next time.  :(
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on May 19, 2022, 05:47:49 PM
Timmy B confirmed with Slade-dawg!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Troy01505 on May 23, 2022, 12:15:29 PM
Gizzy has basically won the championship.

So has me wondering, has Story and co stopped spending at DJR? Is Ludo losing it? It’s this life after Penske Money and resources?

Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on May 23, 2022, 04:26:45 PM
Ludo is back to being race engineer, maybe something he doesn’t excel at?? (he did get replaced by Richard Harris for a number of years).

So has me wondering, has Story and co stopped spending at DJR? Is Ludo losing it? It’s this life after Penske Money and resources?


Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on May 27, 2022, 08:12:00 AM
Third DJR run Stang confirmed at Bathurst!

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/revealed-the-djr-connected-bathurst-1000-wildcard-team/?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2022_NEWS_MAY_26)&mc_cid=a0625f14ac&mc_eid=446bfabc64
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on May 27, 2022, 03:54:57 PM
Third DJR run Stang confirmed at Bathurst!

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/revealed-the-djr-connected-bathurst-1000-wildcard-team/?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2022_NEWS_MAY_26)&mc_cid=a0625f14ac&mc_eid=446bfabc64

DJR don't think so. It is just an old DJR car sold to a new owner.

I hope Anderson has better luck with ex-DJR machinery than Matt Stone did.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on May 27, 2022, 06:46:58 PM
DJR clarification...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/05/27/djr-clarifies-anderson-bathurst-1000-wildcard/?fbclid=IwAR1jGO92sLW-VOgOZFmQvpmTcT9k67SFeZfjloO8t0Xn_Mek8nFwZaAk1f8
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on May 27, 2022, 07:07:36 PM
That’s great for the sport and Bathurst! Now can we get to 32 cars please?

Well, I suppose it had to be mentioned:

https://www.motorsport.com/v8supercars/news/infamous-mustang-returns-bathurst-/10310992/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on May 28, 2022, 06:00:48 AM
Seems Stevie might be in the running for Co-driver! Would he have a Super licence?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on May 28, 2022, 11:17:48 AM
Seems Stevie might be in the running for Co-driver! Would he have a Super licence?

If you mean Stevie Johnson, then he does not have enough sponsor funds to run a TCM car, let alone pay for a Bathurst co-drive.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on May 28, 2022, 11:18:41 AM
Seems Stevie might be in the running for Co-driver! Would he have a Super licence?

If you mean Stevie Johnson, then he does not have enough sponsor funds to run a TCM car, let alone pay for a Bathurst co-drive.

LOL! Sure, sure....how much will Ryan and his father charge him ;)
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on May 28, 2022, 02:30:47 PM
Seems Stevie might be in the running for Co-driver! Would he have a Super licence?

If you mean Stevie Johnson, then he does not have enough sponsor funds to run a TCM car, let alone pay for a Bathurst co-drive.

LOL! Sure, sure....how much will Ryan and his father charge him ;)

I don't think DJR are actually affiliated with the wildcard entry.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: TheArrow on May 28, 2022, 09:57:46 PM
Apparently it comes with "minimal technical assistance".
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stp01 on June 05, 2022, 11:05:08 AM
Triple 8 for Bathurst -

97 van Gisbergen / Tander
88 Feeney / Whincup
888 Lowndes / Fraser

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/06/05/whincup-in-for-another-shot-at-bathurst-1000-glory/

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/06/05/triple-eight-confirms-lowndes-fraser-wildcard/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: mikeamerica84 on June 09, 2022, 12:16:18 PM
The 97 car will be seriously stout, but Broc Feeney has to be completely stoked!  WHAT an OPPORTUNITY!

Remember when Percat was paired up with GT years back and they took the 1000?  Shades of that.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: hsv8fan on June 09, 2022, 07:50:11 PM
The 97 car will be seriously stout, but Broc Feeney has to be completely stoked!  WHAT an OPPORTUNITY!

Remember when Percat was paired up with GT years back and they took the 1000?  Shades of that.
Whincup is prone to throw away as many as he has won though!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Zac on June 09, 2022, 09:22:19 PM
Whincup's attitude to Bathurst comes from the philosophy of 'Don't die wondering'.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: AlbertM on June 09, 2022, 10:10:10 PM
Have to agree with that. Although he left his team wondering why he passed the SC and why won't he listen when he is going to run out of fuel.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Yamarocket630 on June 10, 2022, 11:18:50 AM
Have to agree with that. Although he left his team wondering why he passed the SC and why won't he listen when he is going to run out of fuel.

As my wife would say "I made the best decision I could at the time with the information that I had available"
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on June 10, 2022, 06:48:17 PM
Brown to DJR still running along....but a real tough one...

Waters to Grove would be a blockbuster...(and I am a Tickford Fan)....but not for a year or two it seems...


https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/supercars-driver-market-who-goes-where-in-2023/?fbclid=IwAR1netRlXVFrPiig4IUNBCTaZi9bocwJeWvrheymEdm-VLIpvifTwGQI4Ig
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: SetonFan on June 10, 2022, 09:55:29 PM
I could see Courtney ending up at Team 18 for a final reunion with Schwerkolt
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on June 10, 2022, 10:08:25 PM
I could see Courtney ending up at Team 18 for a final reunion with Schwerkolt

Not in 2022.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on June 11, 2022, 07:52:04 AM
Well the podcast I posted above indicates Frosty is not confirmed for 23......personally, I wouldn't swap him for JC though....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on June 11, 2022, 08:47:27 AM
This is 2022. Perhaps this speculation would be better in a 2023 topic.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Kytabu on June 21, 2022, 04:56:36 PM
Jacobson gone from PremiAir. Potentially Goddard or the third Kostecki to take the seat, so this could affect Tickford as both are them were scheduled to be co-drivers for Bathurst.
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/jacobson-out-of-premiair-racing-supercars-seat/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on June 21, 2022, 05:16:02 PM
Jacobson gone from PremiAir. Potentially Goddard or the third Kostecki to take the seat, so this could affect Tickford as both are them were scheduled to be co-drivers for Bathurst.
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/jacobson-out-of-premiair-racing-supercars-seat/

When was the last time a driver got kicked mid-season?
Probably sooner than I remember... Davison during covid, but that wasn't 'kicked out' so to speak.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on June 21, 2022, 05:35:12 PM
Was this the first round that the owner was able to attend and observe the operation?

Peter Xiberras is personally a driver at the very highest level in Drag Racing world was there for the dual meeting, winning the Top Fuel Championship.

He certainly can't have been impressed with either driver but Coke is paying the bills on the other car.

I know that Subway extended their initial sponsorship, but wonder if this was also their last round.


PS. Since posting, I realised that Subway got magnificent TV time at Darwin. Just think of all the crash replays that featured "Subway". ;D
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: REM on June 21, 2022, 05:54:30 PM
Dude was well in contention for Captain Crash......SVG and JC will just have to duke it out now.....
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: TheArrow on June 21, 2022, 05:59:22 PM
Jacobson gone from PremiAir. Potentially Goddard or the third Kostecki to take the seat, so this could affect Tickford as both are them were scheduled to be co-drivers for Bathurst.
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/jacobson-out-of-premiair-racing-supercars-seat/

Be interesting, certainly. Would you give up a 'plum drive' at the (second) top Ford team for one race and jump in a bottom tier "new" team that has hardly had a positive moment all season...

I guess whichever one pays more...

In all seriousness, it is an interesting conundrum. I feel like the better option, while it might be (significantly) less seat time, would be sticking with Tickford for the enduros.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: murph_fan51 on June 21, 2022, 06:08:33 PM
What was the notification from Supercars saying a Holden team has changed to Ford mid season?
Once I clicked on it went to the Supercars news page???
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Brazen on June 21, 2022, 08:45:40 PM
What was the notification from Supercars saying a Holden team has changed to Ford mid season?
Once I clicked on it went to the Supercars news page???

How intriguing... would be interesting to see
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on June 21, 2022, 08:55:30 PM
Unless it was a notification that WAU would switch to Ford next year, but the switch was announced mid season this year.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on June 22, 2022, 08:46:46 AM
Surprising that Lowndes took the 888 wildcard over a WAU seat!
Surely a spot next to Mostert in the defending champions car was better than what will most certainly be the 3rd 888 car?

Maybe he has a contract with GM to be their marketing face, so WAU was out of the question?

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/06/22/lowndes-put-triple-eight-loyalty-ahead-of-rival-team-bids/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: drivexby on June 22, 2022, 09:33:11 AM
Garry Jacobson has been shown the door -

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/supercars-star-axed-in-ruthless-mid-season-call/ar-AAYH6xr?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=8040051351484c60d471b06f546fe9c3
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on June 22, 2022, 08:42:03 PM
Jacobson gone from PremiAir. Potentially Goddard or the third Kostecki to take the seat, so this could affect Tickford as both are them were scheduled to be co-drivers for Bathurst.
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/jacobson-out-of-premiair-racing-supercars-seat/

When was the last time a driver got kicked mid-season?
Probably sooner than I remember... Davison during covid, but that wasn't 'kicked out' so to speak.

There are a few drivers who split with their team.

John Bowe was the only genuine sacking in Supercars (maybe).

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/podcast-bowe-opens-up-on-cat-racing-axing/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: TheArrow on June 24, 2022, 08:33:14 AM
Jacobson gone from PremiAir. Potentially Goddard or the third Kostecki to take the seat, so this could affect Tickford as both are them were scheduled to be co-drivers for Bathurst.
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/jacobson-out-of-premiair-racing-supercars-seat/

Be interesting, certainly. Would you give up a 'plum drive' at the (second) top Ford team for one race and jump in a bottom tier "new" team that has hardly had a positive moment all season...

I guess whichever one pays more...

In all seriousness, it is an interesting conundrum. I feel like the better option, while it might be (significantly) less seat time, would be sticking with Tickford for the enduros.
I guess we have our answer.

K.Ko and Goddard both staying with Tickford for the enduro.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on June 24, 2022, 01:17:08 PM
Jacobson gone from PremiAir. Potentially Goddard or the third Kostecki to take the seat, so this could affect Tickford as both are them were scheduled to be co-drivers for Bathurst.
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/jacobson-out-of-premiair-racing-supercars-seat/

When was the last time a driver got kicked mid-season?
Probably sooner than I remember... Davison during covid, but that wasn't 'kicked out' so to speak.

There are a few drivers who split with their team.

John Bowe was the only genuine sacking in Supercars (maybe).

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/podcast-bowe-opens-up-on-cat-racing-axing/

Sometimes I reckon Noonan has an account on here:
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/seven-shock-mid-season-supercars-splits/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: V8SuperRiley on June 24, 2022, 01:33:37 PM
Jacobson gone from PremiAir. Potentially Goddard or the third Kostecki to take the seat, so this could affect Tickford as both are them were scheduled to be co-drivers for Bathurst.
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/jacobson-out-of-premiair-racing-supercars-seat/

When was the last time a driver got kicked mid-season?
Probably sooner than I remember... Davison during covid, but that wasn't 'kicked out' so to speak.

There are a few drivers who split with their team.

John Bowe was the only genuine sacking in Supercars (maybe).

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/podcast-bowe-opens-up-on-cat-racing-axing/

Sometimes I reckon Noonan has an account on here:
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/seven-shock-mid-season-supercars-splits/

Or people on here see his stories..
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on June 24, 2022, 02:51:50 PM
Jacobson gone from PremiAir. Potentially Goddard or the third Kostecki to take the seat, so this could affect Tickford as both are them were scheduled to be co-drivers for Bathurst.
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/jacobson-out-of-premiair-racing-supercars-seat/

When was the last time a driver got kicked mid-season?
Probably sooner than I remember... Davison during covid, but that wasn't 'kicked out' so to speak.

There are a few drivers who split with their team.

John Bowe was the only genuine sacking in Supercars (maybe).

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/podcast-bowe-opens-up-on-cat-racing-axing/

Sometimes I reckon Noonan has an account on here:
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/seven-shock-mid-season-supercars-splits/

Or people on here see his stories..

Likely true, but we as a V8 Central cohort also beat he and his staff pretty frequently. Above as an example. Or at least ask the same questions... to which he has the database for!
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: V8SuperRiley on June 24, 2022, 03:35:56 PM
Jacobson gone from PremiAir. Potentially Goddard or the third Kostecki to take the seat, so this could affect Tickford as both are them were scheduled to be co-drivers for Bathurst.
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/jacobson-out-of-premiair-racing-supercars-seat/

When was the last time a driver got kicked mid-season?
Probably sooner than I remember... Davison during covid, but that wasn't 'kicked out' so to speak.

There are a few drivers who split with their team.

John Bowe was the only genuine sacking in Supercars (maybe).

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/podcast-bowe-opens-up-on-cat-racing-axing/

Sometimes I reckon Noonan has an account on here:
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/seven-shock-mid-season-supercars-splits/

Or people on here see his stories..

Likely true, but we as a V8 Central cohort also beat he and his staff pretty frequently. Above as an example. Or at least ask the same questions... to which he has the database for!

Above isn't a very good example though, because I read it on Wednesday morning on v8Sleuth, and it was posted here about Bowe Wednesday night.


On a 2022 note...

I see that Anton is without Ludo for Townsville.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on June 24, 2022, 06:55:44 PM
Jacobson gone from PremiAir. Potentially Goddard or the third Kostecki to take the seat, so this could affect Tickford as both are them were scheduled to be co-drivers for Bathurst.
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/jacobson-out-of-premiair-racing-supercars-seat/

When was the last time a driver got kicked mid-season?
Probably sooner than I remember... Davison during covid, but that wasn't 'kicked out' so to speak.

There are a few drivers who split with their team.

John Bowe was the only genuine sacking in Supercars (maybe).

https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/podcast-bowe-opens-up-on-cat-racing-axing/

Sometimes I reckon Noonan has an account on here:
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/seven-shock-mid-season-supercars-splits/

Or people on here see his stories..

Likely true, but we as a V8 Central cohort also beat he and his staff pretty frequently. Above as an example. Or at least ask the same questions... to which he has the database for!

Above isn't a very good example though, because I read it on Wednesday morning on v8Sleuth, and it was posted here about Bowe Wednesday night.


On a 2022 note...

I see that Anton is without Ludo for Townsville.

We've got our wires crossed here, I should've replied directly to my first comment.
Ala when was the last time someone got sacked mid-season and Sleuth has posted it the next day.



Golding seems to be the name floating around for the PremAir seat.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: TheArrow on July 02, 2022, 09:21:22 AM
Potentially reading too much into it but, could we see Coulthard in the Subway car for at least a round or two?

He posted a slightly cryptic photo of his helmet with the caption "next time I put my helmet on it might look different"...

Simply a new helmet? Or a new car?
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: Ospif1 on July 02, 2022, 09:30:11 AM
He'd be a decent fit for that team.  Experienced and a safe pair of hands.  Won't win anything but he'll be better for the team than their previous driver.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: LG on July 02, 2022, 01:12:11 PM
Potentially reading too much into it but, could we see Coulthard in the Subway car for at least a round or two?

He posted a slightly cryptic photo of his helmet with the caption "next time I put my helmet on it might look different"...

Simply a new helmet? Or a new car?

I wondered the same thing when I saw it too.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on July 03, 2022, 08:54:27 AM
I read about the Chandra Wildcard for Bathurst and one of the versions includes this:
Quote
“We would like to thank Bruce Stewart and the team at WAU for their support in providing one of their chassis and engines to support this entry.”
https://autoaction.com.au/2022/07/01/chadha-bathurst-1000-wildcard-confirmed

I assume that there are a lot of parts that can be used from Chandra's two Super 2 DJR Falcons, but wonder about other parts that will need to be purchased to comply with current Super 1 regs. Brakes will be different. I cant really recall the major mechanical variations.

Maybe all the bits that are purchased and not worn out at Bathurst could be used to  to upgrade one of their Falcons to Mustang for 2023 Super 2.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: kennymiesta on July 03, 2022, 02:40:43 PM
Potentially reading too much into it but, could we see Coulthard in the Subway car for at least a round or two?

He posted a slightly cryptic photo of his helmet with the caption "next time I put my helmet on it might look different"...

Simply a new helmet? Or a new car?

I wondered the same thing when I saw it too.

I can't imagine he'd give up a decent shot at a Bathurst win over running around in 20th, would he? I mean, if he only does 1 or 2 rounds then he is still fine for the enduro's, but interesting nonetheless.

I read about the Chandra Wildcard for Bathurst and one of the versions includes this:
Quote
“We would like to thank Bruce Stewart and the team at WAU for their support in providing one of their chassis and engines to support this entry.”
https://autoaction.com.au/2022/07/01/chadha-bathurst-1000-wildcard-confirmed

I assume that there are a lot of parts that can be used from Chandra's two Super 2 DJR Falcons, but wonder about other parts that will need to be purchased to comply with current Super 1 regs. Brakes will be different. I cant really recall the major mechanical variations.

Maybe all the bits that are purchased and not worn out at Bathurst could be used to  to upgrade one of their Falcons to Mustang for 2023 Super 2.

I think that he is using (possibly purchased?) the spare Walkinshaw Chassis that O'Jeida has been running as the wildcard.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on July 04, 2022, 09:13:13 PM
I read about the Chandra Wildcard for Bathurst and one of the versions includes this:
Quote
“We would like to thank Bruce Stewart and the team at WAU for their support in providing one of their chassis and engines to support this entry.”
https://autoaction.com.au/2022/07/01/chadha-bathurst-1000-wildcard-confirmed

I assume that there are a lot of parts that can be used from Chandra's two Super 2 DJR Falcons, but wonder about other parts that will need to be purchased to comply with current Super 1 regs. Brakes will be different. I cant really recall the major mechanical variations.

Maybe all the bits that are purchased and not worn out at Bathurst could be used to  to upgrade one of their Falcons to Mustang for 2023 Super 2.

The latest announcement means that Chandra does not need to upgrade and can run his current Falcons next year in Super2.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/07/04/all-cotf-models-to-compete-for-2023-super2-series-title/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: TheArrow on July 05, 2022, 04:36:56 PM
Lol not to be picky but his name is literally in the link and article. Its Chadha.

And the other is Ojeda.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on July 05, 2022, 04:40:59 PM
Potentially reading too much into it but, could we see Coulthard in the Subway car for at least a round or two?

He posted a slightly cryptic photo of his helmet with the caption "next time I put my helmet on it might look different"...

Simply a new helmet? Or a new car?

I wondered the same thing when I saw it too.

It certainly looked cryptic, but here's our biggest clue yet:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/07/05/team-18-releases-golding-from-co-driver-contract/
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on July 05, 2022, 05:13:12 PM
here is an even better clue:
Quote
PremiAir Racing has confirmed James Golding will race for the team for the remainder of the Supercars Championship season, commencing at  this weekend’s Townsville 500

https://autoaction.com.au/2022/07/05/golding-announced-as-premiair-driver
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: skaifeman on July 05, 2022, 09:45:48 PM
Keen to see what James can do. He's been a standout in the S5000 for the past few years.
Xiberras doesn't seem to be mucking around.
Title: Re: Silly Season 2022
Post by: stevo qld on July 05, 2022, 11:25:59 PM
Keen to see what James can do. He's been a standout in the S5000 for the past few years.
Xiberras doesn't seem to be mucking around.
He has the best available equipment. He has the enthusiasm.

We need another team competing for podiums.