Excuse this Yank for butting in and starting the spolier thread. I just HAD to do it - ONCE!
One race Saturday, two Sunday. All 38 laps unless...... could it be shortened by time for television? Weekend schedule below....
https://www.supercars.com/2021-merlin-darwin-triple-crown-schedule-and-results/
Daily weather F-S-S: 32.7°C-32.2°C-31.1°C. No rain. Let us hope for no cancellations.
Anyone on the forum going to be there in person? Me, I'll be at a dirt late model show (super sedans, T-onne) at Plymouth Speedway in Indiana Sunday.
Whincup and Pye at the top. De Pasquale 3rd.
Top 25 cars covered by 1sec in Practice 2, smaller track I know, but still impressive.
How staged was the Boost bike vs Supercar lap >:(
Wasn't that staged when you consider their lap times from yesterday.
Interesting that the 5 teams who had a horsepower increase are at the top of the field...
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Quote from: TheArrow on June 19, 2021, 12:20:13 PM
Interesting that the 5 teams who had a horsepower increase are at the top of the field...
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Interesting that the brand who lost their most talented and also their fastest drivers are no longer at the top. One has to wonder how good Penske really were now the cat is out of the bag.
Good to see JDUB up at the top, but it is only in practice
Quote from: Troy01505 on June 19, 2021, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: TheArrow on June 19, 2021, 12:20:13 PM
Interesting that the 5 teams who had a horsepower increase are at the top of the field...
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Interesting that the brand who lost their most talented and also their fastest drivers are no longer at the top. One has to wonder how good Penske really were now the cat is out of the bag.
Good to see JDUB up at the top, but it is only in practice
I wasn't making this a brand thing but sure, go ahead.
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What a lap by ADP! Wonder what the time would have been without the mistake at the hairpin.
Awesome lap by Frosty, would love to see him return to the podium today.
Some bad calls in Q1 by some teams to only do one run...shocker for Davison. Would not have expected KGR to fill the back row, either.
Chaz and Cam starting next to each other!
Scott Pye trying to win the bloody race at the first corner.
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I heard someone over the radio say "I've lost power" as the lights went up. Would suggest Frosty.
SVG as aggressive as ever, a great move.
Pye made the same mistake as many before him.
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Definitely Frosty, it just cut out on him.
A great day for Team18 turns to a bad one before the first corner.
Quote from: skaifeman on June 19, 2021, 04:02:04 PM
I heard someone over the radio say "I've lost power" as the lights went up. Would suggest Frosty.
SVG as aggressive as ever, a great move.
Pye made the same mistake as many before him.
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Definitely Frosty, it just cut out on him.
A great day for Team18 turns to a bad one before the first corner.
At least that wasn't Frosty's fault.
Pye making rookie moves like that is what killed their day.
Edit: easy for Skaife to say de Pasquale made a rookie mistake letting Van Gis in but Van Gis was going in way too hot either way.
Anton avoided one accident (Van Gis taking him out) and was taken out in another accident instead.
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That's taken a bit of shine out of the race with three of the top four gone at the first corner.
Anton needed to be glued to the inside line. Never should have let SVG up the inside regardless of what Pye was doing behind.
Really disappointing Frosty loses another big chance of a podium
Quote from: Kytabu on June 19, 2021, 04:10:12 PM
That's taken a bit of shine out of the race with three of the top four gone at the first corner.
Anton needed to be glued to the inside line. Never should have let SVG up the inside regardless of what Pye was doing behind.
Like I said above, Van Gis was going in hot either way. Anton would have been taken out by Van Gis if he was glued to the inside.
The drive through for Pye is a joke of a punishment. He's already a lap down. It's going to have absolutely zero impact on his has result. Unlike the 5 destroyed cars he caused at turn 1.
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SVG only went in that hot because Anton opened a gap for him. He wouldn't have had Anton kept the door closed.
Was hoping SVG might go full Bottas there and have a 40 hour pitstop
I wouldn't say what de Pasquale did avoided a crash. That's racing, plenty of moves like that before it, and plenty more to come.
I also wouldn't say that it was an amateur mistake, he just got outfoxed by a fantastic move.
Does anyone want to win this race?
SVG done, and now Percat under investigation for tyre pressures.
if that first corner event happened at any other time than the first lap it would have been a non-event... Giz went in way too hot, ran wide missing the apex by a mile preventing Anton from taking the turn in, and then a brake tap to stay on track backed everyone into each other and carnage was the only thing that could follow when you have the field nose to tail.
it raises a question again of what do you call track limits? why put lines down marking the racing surface if you are permitted to go off it at will?
disappointed to have so much damage to so many cars. that secondary hit on Anton was huge!
for me, Giz was at least in part responsible having braked when everyone else was belting through t1 and backing everyone up so I did feel that the pit issues did at least kinda work like a drive thru penalty... but then a typical hard work drive back through the field by him, good stuff there.
Zero issue with what SVG did, he went for the gap and made a nice move, that's pretty basic motor racing. What happened behind is 100% on those behind, Pye was simply in too hot and he has put his hand up taking the blame for it (but seems some Supercars fans don't use much common sense).
Feel for Anton, he deserved better after a good weekend to that point.
I think it's about time to stop drivers exceeding the track design limits.
The idea of putting concrete behind kerbing to allow them to go a full car width off the track is completely bonkers.
So Percat's tyre pressure issue seems to have been a puncture on the outlap to the grid and was changed before the start of the race.
if they give him a penalty for low pressure then any time anyone gets a flat while on circuit they MUST get the same penalty.
what a joke! (apparently decision will be made known tomorrow)
Anton caused that himself.
Quote from: Troy01505 on June 19, 2021, 11:37:20 PM
Anton caused that himself.
Partially, although I think he was entitled to tuck in behind SVG after SVG had made that excellent pass. Unfortunately Pye had his nose in there and clipped Antons left year quarter. Was Pye not far enough up? Or should Anton not have changed his line and chopped across the car behind/beside?
Whatever, it's good to see passing attempts. Wouldn't want everyone too scared to attempt to pass would we! Imagine the forum then. Been there!
Percat keeps his podium which is great, but the team loses points due to the error being completely self inflicted. No puncture was involved.
I know I've seen enough to know I've seen too much. What a bizarre Race 1 - no matter who you want to blame.
What a difference a day makes!
Will Davo claims both poles and a lap in the 1.04s!
Let's hope the races don't fall foul to any questionable antics.
Quote from: djr18fan on June 20, 2021, 07:13:18 AM
Quote from: Troy01505 on June 19, 2021, 11:37:20 PM
Anton caused that himself.
Partially, although I think he was entitled to tuck in behind SVG after SVG had made that excellent pass. Unfortunately Pye had his nose in there and clipped Antons left year quarter. Was Pye not far enough up? Or should Anton not have changed his line and chopped across the car behind/beside?
Whatever, it's good to see passing attempts. Wouldn't want everyone too scared to attempt to pass would we! Imagine the forum then. Been there!
In my opinion Anton should have blocked SVG but he is still learning his craft. He was entitled to slip in behind SVG and Pye should be more aware of what's happening in front of him but that's motor racing.
I agree, great seeing passing attempts and drivers showing a bit of dominance, let's hope they keep it up and it's not overly punished like previous years.
SVG looked like he was cruising in that one. I think that even if Davo had taken the lead into Turn 1 SVG would still have won the race. Awesome battle between JW and Chaz.
How good was the bin lid with Larko and Andre? ;D
It will be interesting to see what tyres everyone has for the final race; Anton should have a couple of decent sets after yesterday.
SvG was spot on regarding the tyres. They didn't provide the entertainment they were designed to do, so back to the drawing board on that one.
SvG also simply too good, especially on the starts. I feel that Pole should get to choose where they start though as 2nd on the grid seemed to provide an advantage.
Definitely a bucket list even this one.
Great drive by SvG once again....best to give him the championship trophy now
Quote from: Ospif1 on June 20, 2021, 04:49:28 PM
I feel that Pole should get to choose where they start though as 2nd on the grid seemed to provide an advantage.
An oval track "rule". I like it. The outside lane is usually the clean line, too.
Quote from: LG on June 20, 2021, 11:23:27 AM
What a difference a day makes!
Will Davo claims both poles and a lap in the 1.04s!
Let's hope the races don't fall foul to any questionable antics.
Tough to call Percat's leaking tyre questionable tactics! :P
Young Will Brown is well worth watching.
He's very enthusiastic and appears to be a fast learner.
Three top 10 finishes for a rookie at a track he's never seen puts a lot of other drivers to shame.
His qualifying is getting there too.
A good Toowoomba lad... ;D
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Young Will Brown is well worth watching.
He's very enthusiastic and appears to be a fast learner.
Three top 10 finishes for a rookie at a track he's never seen puts a lot of other drivers to shame.
His qualifying is getting there too.
A good Toowoomba lad... ;D
Lightning fast, but at times susceptible to a silly mistake - Super2 Bathurst for the last 2 years.
Being quick can't be learnt, avoiding crashes can. Well worth watching, as you say. He seems pretty comfy at Erebus for the moment too.
What a shocker Sunday from Anton. The DJR camp is a funny one. Anton looks more likely for race wins, but Will is the consistent one, and it shows on the Championship table.
The #11 is my early tip for next years Championship.
Great weekend all round. Rapt that Chaz took out the round. Bring on Townsville where the ZBs will fly again.😉
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Young Will Brown is well worth watching.
He's very enthusiastic and appears to be a fast learner.
Three top 10 finishes for a rookie at a track he's never seen puts a lot of other drivers to shame.
His qualifying is getting there too.
A good Toowoomba lad... ;D
Of course it could be the car.
I've read here that anyone could win in certain cars.
Quote from: djr18fan on June 21, 2021, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Young Will Brown is well worth watching.
He's very enthusiastic and appears to be a fast learner.
Three top 10 finishes for a rookie at a track he's never seen puts a lot of other drivers to shame.
His qualifying is getting there too.
A good Toowoomba lad... ;D
Of course it could be the car.
I've read here that anyone could win in certain cars.
Um, he's driving for Erebus... ;D ;D
Look what he did in the Hyundai!
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 08:43:45 PM
Quote from: djr18fan on June 21, 2021, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Young Will Brown is well worth watching.
He's very enthusiastic and appears to be a fast learner.
Three top 10 finishes for a rookie at a track he's never seen puts a lot of other drivers to shame.
His qualifying is getting there too.
A good Toowoomba lad... ;D
Of course it could be the car.
I've read here that anyone could win in certain cars.
Um, he's driving for Erebus... ;D ;D
Look what he did in the Hyundai!
Why can't Erebus cars be the best?
Quote from: djr18fan on June 22, 2021, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 08:43:45 PM
Quote from: djr18fan on June 21, 2021, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Young Will Brown is well worth watching.
He's very enthusiastic and appears to be a fast learner.
Three top 10 finishes for a rookie at a track he's never seen puts a lot of other drivers to shame.
His qualifying is getting there too.
A good Toowoomba lad... ;D
Of course it could be the car.
I've read here that anyone could win in certain cars.
Um, he's driving for Erebus... ;D ;D
Look what he did in the Hyundai!
Why can't Erebus cars be the best?
Erebus is good, but in the red camp they are not Roland's cars or WAU's cars. I'd categorize them with the BJR gang, who had a HORRIFIC Hidden Valley weekend.
Will is good, though. Headed for the top. A no brainer.
Sidebar: Like your posts, 18fan. Always have. You pull no punches, mate.
Quote from: djr18fan on June 22, 2021, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 08:43:45 PM
Quote from: djr18fan on June 21, 2021, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Young Will Brown is well worth watching.
He's very enthusiastic and appears to be a fast learner.
Three top 10 finishes for a rookie at a track he's never seen puts a lot of other drivers to shame.
His qualifying is getting there too.
A good Toowoomba lad... ;D
Of course it could be the car.
I've read here that anyone could win in certain cars.
Um, he's driving for Erebus... ;D ;D
Look what he did in the Hyundai!
Why can't Erebus cars be the best?
IMO they lack the culture required for it as well. There's a reason their staff turnover is so high.
Quote from: skaifeman on June 21, 2021, 11:27:00 AM
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Young Will Brown is well worth watching.
He's very enthusiastic and appears to be a fast learner.
Three top 10 finishes for a rookie at a track he's never seen puts a lot of other drivers to shame.
His qualifying is getting there too.
A good Toowoomba lad... ;D
Lightning fast, but at times susceptible to a silly mistake - Super2 Bathurst for the last 2 years.
Being quick can't be learnt, avoiding crashes can. Well worth watching, as you say. He seems pretty comfy at Erebus for the moment too.
I was expecting him to be involved in a lot of incidents this year based on what I'd seen of him in TCR/Super2 etc but I've been impressed - he's been pretty clean as far as I can remember.
I didn't realize this until I was tallying up the V8CFL points, but of all the heavy hitters in the series, Will Brown took the extra five points in Race 3 for the fastest lap. Just another feather in his young cap.
Quote from: SetonFan on June 22, 2021, 10:46:52 PM
Quote from: skaifeman on June 21, 2021, 11:27:00 AM
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Young Will Brown is well worth watching.
He's very enthusiastic and appears to be a fast learner.
Three top 10 finishes for a rookie at a track he's never seen puts a lot of other drivers to shame.
His qualifying is getting there too.
A good Toowoomba lad... ;D
Lightning fast, but at times susceptible to a silly mistake - Super2 Bathurst for the last 2 years.
Being quick can't be learnt, avoiding crashes can. Well worth watching, as you say. He seems pretty comfy at Erebus for the moment too.
I was expecting him to be involved in a lot of incidents this year based on what I'd seen of him in TCR/Super2 etc but I've been impressed - he's been pretty clean as far as I can remember.
I was thinking the same. The Bathurst opener crash in practice didn't bode well, but he's been above and beyond ever since. Kudos to him!
Quote from: skaifeman on June 23, 2021, 08:57:18 AM
Quote from: SetonFan on June 22, 2021, 10:46:52 PM
Quote from: skaifeman on June 21, 2021, 11:27:00 AM
Quote from: LG on June 21, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Young Will Brown is well worth watching.
He's very enthusiastic and appears to be a fast learner.
Three top 10 finishes for a rookie at a track he's never seen puts a lot of other drivers to shame.
His qualifying is getting there too.
A good Toowoomba lad... ;D
Lightning fast, but at times susceptible to a silly mistake - Super2 Bathurst for the last 2 years.
Being quick can't be learnt, avoiding crashes can. Well worth watching, as you say. He seems pretty comfy at Erebus for the moment too.
I was expecting him to be involved in a lot of incidents this year based on what I'd seen of him in TCR/Super2 etc but I've been impressed - he's been pretty clean as far as I can remember.
I was thinking the same. The Bathurst opener crash in practice didn't bode well, but he's been above and beyond ever since. Kudos to him!
The boy has it all...he is fast and very carasmatic, great for sponsors .... Reminds me of a young Craig Lowndes